Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: firestarter on February 02, 2022, 03:52:28 pm
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Looks like some of them planning on buying yellow and black scarves to highlight their stance of support the team not the regime. Am sure that will really give the players the lift they need … pfft.
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They are the “ angry birds” generation
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Whoppers. The lot of em.
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They pay their money and have a right to their opinion. The board certainly have done themselves no favours this season and an acknowledgement of this might be helpful.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
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8 new players in the transfer window. What else do U want? Oh, and they will take time to become a team. The “Rome” that was drfc, will take time to rebuild. The second half of any season is not the best time to start a rebuild, but that’s where we are at.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
It is called taking responsibility for your actions. Actions which this season has seen us deliver one of the worst seasons in history and relegated by Feb.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
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I don't agree with them. I think without Terry's money we would certainly be in a worse situation. I can see the benefit of the club Doncaster project to try and make us as self sufficient as possible.
What I do think is that between GV/DB/TB, they have made some poor decisions over the last couple of years and that is why we are in the situation we are in. For me its a lack of a football person on the board. Did they get lucky with previous appointments? Did the luck run out on manager selection? The time it takes to appoint a manager, the recruitment process and the people involved etc.
If TB wasn't willing to invest in new players, the Marquis/Whiteman money went on keeping the club going... then so be it, he is the owner its up to him. I totally get the frustrations with the fanbase, it is split at the minute. The older generation saw what a Richardson type could do to a club, so are naturally reluctant for debt/takeovers etc.
The club are on a downward spiral at an alarming rate. What's the answer? A takeover.... I don't see a queue of people looking to buy us. Investment, new structure within the club? I personally thought an experienced manager should have been a priority, but everyone thinks differently. The split in the fanbase is sad really but is understandable. Should we be happy with the current position, no. Is it a massive concern, yes... I honestly don't know what the answer is. I am not sure getting TB to walk away is though either.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
Do we have enough wealthy fans that a) wouldn’t walk away when things get tough or another netto brigade arose and b) be prepared to put their own money in? I would say the answer is a big fat no
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them
It is called taking responsibility for your actions. Actions which this season has seen us deliver one of the worst seasons in history and relegated by Feb.
So how much you thinking of putting in then , you still need to buy them out,how much is the club worth ?
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Are you stamping your feet when you type that?
Who’s going to fund the club after your demands are met?
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
Do we have enough wealthy fans that a) wouldn’t walk away when things get tough or another netto brigade arose and b) be prepared to put their own money in? I would say the answer is a big fat no
It has been done and can be done. Everything at Exeter City has to be passed by motions by the supporters. Every spend accounted for and the club run professionally like any business with paid staff of course but accountable staff.
Just my view as i dislike the idea that one or a few people call the shots just because they are keeping the club afloat. It gives them all the cards. Always.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
What actually is your issue then and how do you fix it? There doesn't seem to be many answers.
Not a dig btw I have no idea how we get better bar developing the players we've brought in with potential (which on the face of it is a start).
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
What is your problem then? Let’s be clear Terry Funds the Club, Blunt holds the purse strings and Gavin does the day to day running. Without Blunt and Baldwin, Terry walks, simple as that, then zero funding. The banner you have has Gavin’s face on it, why? He doesn’t decide what can be spent or how much funding is put into the squad.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
Do we have enough wealthy fans that a) wouldn’t walk away when things get tough or another netto brigade arose and b) be prepared to put their own money in? I would say the answer is a big fat no
It has been done and can be done. Everything at Exeter City has to be passed by motions by the supporters. Every spend accounted for and the club run professionally like any business with paid staff of course but accountable staff.
Just my view as i dislike the idea that one or a few people call the shots just because they are keeping the club afloat. It gives them all the cards. Always.
I’m not disputing that I just don’t believe we have sufficient enough fans who want that modal at our club
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It’s like the Monty Python what have the Romans ever done for us sketch
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
What’s your business plan please
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
No, the right people as you say haven’t publicly stated anything
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The team are in decline. It’s called football. Someone wins. Someone loses.
Let’s protest about it.
Ffs. Get a life.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, both Blunt and Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
You want to double-check the third paragraph?
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Can you enlighten us to why they are nasty Kitsons, evidence and stuff, or is that you stamping your feet again?
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Can you enlighten us to why they are nasty Kitsons, evidence and stuff, or is that you stamping your feet again?
He stated they aren’t nasty
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, both Blunt and Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
You want to double-check the third paragraph?
Yes I re-read after I posted and spotted it. Obviously meant “aren’t nasty c*nts”. Changed it now to make it more clear.
They aren’t running us maliciously, they just are no longer up to cop.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Go on then, enlighten us all? I can honestly say that if there is a genuine way forward to solve the problems we have at present that is viable you would have the entire fan base behind you. Alas it’s all rhetoric until this group of yours puts something forward which as present hasn’t happened
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Can you enlighten us to why they are nasty Kitsons, evidence and stuff, or is that you stamping your feet again?
I think what followed the “are nasty c*nts” clearly showed what I meant was “aren’t” :rolleyes:
Corrected to make sure.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Go on then, enlighten us all? I can honestly say that if there is a genuine way forward to solve the problems we have at present that is viable you would have the entire fan base behind you. Alas it’s all rhetoric until this group of yours puts something forward which as present hasn’t happened
I’ve just told you. A change of personnel and strategy amongst the 2 running the day-to-day of the club with people more suitable for modern day football.
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Is this for a school project?
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
Go on then, enlighten us all? I can honestly say that if there is a genuine way forward to solve the problems we have at present that is viable you would have the entire fan base behind you. Alas it’s all rhetoric until this group of yours puts something forward which as present hasn’t happened
I’ve just told you. A change of personnel and strategy amongst the 2 running the day-to-day of the club with people more suitable for modern day football.
What you haven’t done is demonstrated how you are going to achieve it given that by removing the 2 people you feel need removing will also remove the person who funds the club
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Let’s be straight. Any group of people who want change and think that buying a load of yellow and black scarves to make change happen don’t deserve our attention. Especially on what will be a school night for them.
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Can't fault the board's investment (TB, let's be honest) in January. Can't fault Baldwin's influence on generating revenues for the club.
I did feel at the beginning of the season all the snippets about 14th highest budget, having to deal with covid tax bill, having a consolidation season and go again next year were a bit disappointing. It probably cost us a little bit, but the biggest factor was Wellen's recruitment.
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There are a couple of dozen on Twitter who seem to be running a Baldwin out campaign.
I hope he does not take notice of it.
This bunch of kids want to be careful what they wish for.
Utter utter kitsons.
If Baldwin goes, so does the money man next to him.
#nettobrigadeoutofourclub
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Can't fault the board's investment (TB, let's be honest) in January. Can't fault Baldwin's influence on generating revenues for the club.
I did feel at the beginning of the season all the snippets about 14th highest budget, having to deal with covid tax bill, having a consolidation season and go again next year were a bit disappointing. It probably cost us a little bit, but the biggest factor was Wellen's recruitment.
Agree with this.
The board have their faults, as do pretty much the boards of all clubs.
I don’t think money/investment is the problem (which clearly is an issue for the Netto supporters), it’s how it was spent/distributed in the summer, the summer window has been a disaster, partly disrupted by the following injuries to most of them.
Up until last night, I think the vast majority were satisfied we’d had a good January, but after one game they’re all shite.
The irony of the Netto crew is that Netto were such a successful company, they were taken over by Asda for £300m or something like that, so they were clearly do an awful lot right.
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
It’s not a thought, remove them you remove Terry, you might want to actually go and talk to the people you have a problem with and find out how the club is actually run
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Quite possibly, yes. Whether people think this is acceptable or not is a matter of opinion.
There's a fair chance though that is the reality of the situation you're dealing with. If you accept the possible outcome of what you propose (intentional or not) is TB leaving then fair enough.
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
TTB:
Silent Majority - who has worked with the club over the years and knows more than most on here what goes on in Club Don - has stated in a previous post on this forum that if Baldwin and Blunt go, then Bramall goes.
If that happens, wave goodbye to DRFC.
Unless you know of a benefactor waiting in the wings to step in.
BVB
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Terry Bramall does not leave the club just because his chief exec goes. He's invested too much and contributed too much to building the club Doncaster model.
Let's not be stupid or say stupid things, and stop holding fans to account with these cloaked 'threats'. There are far more reasonable arguments to counter undeserved criticism.
This 'us and them' mentality is pretty nauseating among our fan base right now.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
It is called taking responsibility for your actions. Actions which this season has seen us deliver one of the worst seasons in history and relegated by Feb.
CDH - I agree that being a fans owned club would be fantastic, but I can’t see it happening anytime soon as in my opinion our fanbase is nowhere near ready for it, both ethically and financially.
I don’t agree with the notion that our board are unaccountable, as they have made steps towards improving this, but of course they could do much better - as could any football club with the same ownership model as ours.
Back to Exeter City - I presume there must be a “committee” of some sort that takes decisions on behalf of the members?
Cheers
BVB
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Terry Bramall does not leave the club just because his chief exec goes. He's invested too much and contributed too much to building the club Doncaster model.
Let's not be stupid or say stupid things, and stop holding fans to account with these cloaked 'threats'. There are far more reasonable arguments to counter undeserved criticism.
This 'us and them' mentality is pretty nauseating among our fan base right now.
Sorry Copps but that’s exactly what will happen
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I understand the passion, I really do, but you just sound like spoilt brats- regardless of your ages.
Your jibes about us being a Neto club, have been sadly pi…d on with the recent recruitment, and the club explained very clearly in differing media outlets the reasons behind the lower budget this season.
They have got some stuff wrong since Grant Mc left the club, but not through malice or want- they have been open and honest about this.
I just find it bonkers to be honest with you, and another poor reflection of the entitlement some have in modern times.
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
You-ve already been given the answer to that question.
Full marks for saying what you don't want but have you any idea of what you do want and how to go about getting it?
Suggesting a more passionate Chairman and a 'footballing CEO' is just not detailed enough. You need to define the role of the CEO and chairman and define what smart recruitment means. Don't you dare quote the Brentford model. If you do, you need to look into the resources and finance that supported the model.
If you want change, then you're going to have to campaign for regime change so you better have more meat on the bones so fans can decide whether to support it, and I mean you will need the majority of Rovers fans.
Should you continue with this journey, then I suggest, once you have the support for what you want, you petition the board and politely request they cease funding and put the club into administration. Only then once you have the pledges of funding from fans to continue trading, just as Wigan fans raised money for this eventuality and worked with the administrator whilst seeking new ownership.
So, as said. You'd better have a plan. If you haven't already, take advice from John Ryan, take advice from other clubs fans, such as Wigan and Portsmouth. Take advice from the FSF.
Good luck!
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Terry Bramall does not leave the club just because his chief exec goes. He's invested too much and contributed too much to building the club Doncaster model.
Let's not be stupid or say stupid things, and stop holding fans to account with these cloaked 'threats'. There are far more reasonable arguments to counter undeserved criticism.
This 'us and them' mentality is pretty nauseating among our fan base right now.
Copps
Just pointing out what has been said by someone who is much closer than most of us, so stupid if you want.
If you know different then please outline?
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
Failing staff are you joking, what is your definition of failing
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I have to say I think some of the views about the board are unbelievable
Ok we look like we’re going down unfortunately
Not a certainty
At least we are not looking like going bust like some other clubs
If TB and the board read this forum and some of the drivel written about them I wouldn’t blame them for not spending
Be grateful you have a club that is run properly and not in millions of debt or liquidation. You would soon be crying if we went the way of bury. Be careful what you wish for
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All the netto shit is just a bunch of kids who have no idea what they’re going on about. They want Baldwin out because he owns shares but doesn’t invest anything into the club. Jesus wept.
If you argue back to them and point out all the players we have, many who are injured who will be all on very decent wages for this level they just reply stop being up baldwins arse.
Honestly they’re proper thick, and have no idea what they’re protesting for nor do they have any idea what will happen if the board did leave.
They’re an embarrassment to the club, and we’d be much better off if they didn’t bother coming to games
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
Failing staff are you joking, what is your definition of failing
I would say completely the opposite.
Failing? Don't make me laugh!
Gavin's role is to make sure the club model generates the money required to meet the playing budget and keeps the ship afloat. The very fact that DRFC raises more money through off field activities than any LG1 or Lg2 team means that he's not doing an average job but a bloody remarkable one.
That's his job, and he's very good at it!
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In terms of crises and Doncaster Rovers Football Club, the current situation, while frustrating and bitterly disappointing, given where we were just over 12 months ago, is understandable. But we’ve had it way way way worse.
McCann jumping ship derailed us. We did ok under Moore but he lost his focus after being tapped up by Wednesday in December 2020. He then lumbered us with some very questionable signings.
Butler was unable to do anything and Wellens recruited pretty poorly and turned out to be a disaster. Utter tool. Which is a shame as he was great for us as a player for the most part.
So yeah, it’s been a shit 12 months where a bad situation has been made progressively worse.
It happens.
And I get that younger supporters have only really seen us on a general upswing. It’s been a brilliant ride since 2002/3. But we also had “The Experiment” during that time, remember. That was pretty depressing when it all played out. And going further back we obviously had the Richardson years where we were close to going under altogether.
The board had made some mistakes, no doubt. They put faith in people who weren’t worthy and landed us where we are. Wellens was clearly the wrong choice, but most of us were excited by his appointment weren’t we?
Conversely they recruited well and those managers were poached by bigger clubs. Nowt they can realistically do there, can they?
I’ll say it again: In Gary McSheffrey I think we have an excellent manager in the making. I think the club have recruited well in January overall. I’m on the fence about Clayton but time will tell.
If we’d had McSheffrey in charge last summer I believe this season would have been altogether different. But nobody really knows.
All this talk of ousting the board… it’s pathetic really. People should be careful what they wish for, frankly.
I think everyone needs to calm the f**k down, support the club and what McSheffrey is trying to do and we go again in August.
At this point, I don’t give a f**k if that’s in L1 or L2. Rotherham aside, and McSheffrey was big enough to hold his hands up there and admit he got it wrong, I am seeing improvements in attitude, application, effort.
Wellens left an unfit, alienated, defeated and dejected group of players that have needed picking up, talking to, training and educating. No easy task half way through a season. McSheffrey is a brave soul for taking it on.
I have faith in him, and in the board, to recruit well over the summer.
RTID.
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All the netto shit is just a bunch of kids who have no idea what they’re going on about. They want Baldwin out because he owns shares but doesn’t invest anything into the club. Jesus wept.
If you argue back to them and point out all the players we have, many who are injured who will be all on very decent wages for this level they just reply stop being up baldwins arse.
Honestly they’re proper thick, and have no idea what they’re protesting for nor do they have any idea what will happen if the board did leave.
They’re an embarrassment to the club, and we’d be much better off if they didn’t bother coming to games
Dickos you missed out attention seeking
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Terry Bramall does not leave the club just because his chief exec goes. He's invested too much and contributed too much to building the club Doncaster model.
Let's not be stupid or say stupid things, and stop holding fans to account with these cloaked 'threats'. There are far more reasonable arguments to counter undeserved criticism.
This 'us and them' mentality is pretty nauseating among our fan base right now.
It's not a cloaked threat, far from it.
Remember Terry has had DB at his side for more years than I'm sure he wants to remember and they built a very successful business between them. He's not going to give him the elbow just so he can keep a few kids or disgruntled supporters happy. He trusts him implicitly.
And the same goes for GB too. TB values his contribution for turning the club into a very successful, off the filed, operation which is what he tasked him to do.
They are a team, simple as. TB is never going to start recruiting new Chairmen and CEO's at his time in life.
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I have to admit that having not attended a game for well over 2 years now, I have been nothing more than a quiet observer, but it does scream out to me that there is something seriously and worryingly going wrong with the club. We appear to be in freefall and it has all the same symptoms of previous clubs where the problems go much much deeper than the playing staff and manager.
Can anyone point to a single element of the club, that when you compare it to 10 years ago, is in a much better position now than it was then? What has actually happened that would constitute a success?
We've gone from being a club that spent 6 seasons either in the Championship or fighting for promotion from League One, to a club that has spent 3 of the last 6 seasons either in League Two, or a relegation fight.
We somehow ended up in the laughable situation of sacking a manager 6 games into the season because the club were "ambitious for a top-six finish and that is, and will remain, our aim,". Yet we then ended up from said ambition of a play off finish to being relegated and not a single player of that squad was out of contract.
Fast forward a couple of years and we ended up reaching the play-offs with what has to be considered a heoric effort from the squad and had over half the first team out of contract.
In our last 3 relegations, we did not releive any of the managers of their duties - speaking of managers, the 8 we have had, 4 jumped ship at the first opportunity, and with the exception of Wellens, those that were sacked were either 6 games into the season or just after our only league title in 30 years.
Off the pitch we attract less fans and less season ticket holders than we did a decade ago, our fan base appears to be dwindling or shrinking, if you look at the latest balance sheet and accounts we generate less revenue and are no less reliant on the owners plugging the shortfall every year now than we were 10 years ago. Our debt situation does however look much better, but only because the debt has either been written off or converted to equity which dilutes the shareholding of other smaller shareholders like the supporters trust. I believe the total amount of money lost now stands at over £30 Million. Which let's face it, is a staggering amount but pocket change in modern football.
It appears that by almost every measurable metric, we are a club going backwards. It's inevitable that eventually the frustration of fans is aimed beyond the pitch and towards those running the club. I'm not going to try and blame the above on any one individual at the club or those owning it. I've been lucky over the years that due to varying roles across fan organisations, and volunteering my time to be SLO I was fortunate enough to spend time in the company of those running the club and I do genuinely believe they act in the club's best interest and I do believe that we owe them a huge debt of keeping our club going at the expense of their own wallets.
But I think it's right there is an air of concern at the moment and it's only right that questions are asked. Whilst the debacle in the Richardson era makes us all that much grateful to have owners like we do, it is also a lesson of what can go tragically wrong if those at the top are left unchecked and allowed to do as they please because no one has an answer to the question: "What's the alternative?"
As I say I haven't been as active over the past few years down to my own personal circumstances, and maybe this isn't the same mindset as the majority of Rovers fans, but is just my humble observation.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
It is called taking responsibility for your actions. Actions which this season has seen us deliver one of the worst seasons in history and relegated by Feb.
I know the people at Exeter City very well, I've worked with them for many years.
As a model its OK, but supporters would have to get used to mediocre football and put ownership to the top of the agenda. Somehow I just don't see it happening. At least a few of that Netto brigade were absolutely thrilled when they thought a dodgy hedge fund company was going to buy the club.
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So people think Terry Bramall would put his loyalty to 2 friends (who he can still stay friends with) above DRFC?
Failing staff, whether executive or not sure always be moved on for fresher ideas.
Don't be such a bloody hypocrite. You want a fan-owned club, so you want TB gone too to make way for them.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
So I don't understand your going to buy them out then
Which is the main reason why IMO DRFC should aim to be a self sustainable fan owned club in the model of Exeter City. Then fans have a voice and a say and the club doesn't continue to have unaccountable owners. Despite their investment and funding of the club, they still need to front up to fans and not soft soap them with bullshit.
It is called taking responsibility for your actions. Actions which this season has seen us deliver one of the worst seasons in history and relegated by Feb.
I know the people at Exeter City very well, I've worked with them for many years.
As a model its OK, but supporters would have to get used to mediocre football and put ownership to the top of the agenda. Somehow I just don't see it happening. At least a few of that Netto brigade were absolutely thrilled when they thought a dodgy hedge fund company was going to buy the club.
I also know a few of the people involved at Exeter City during my time down there. I'd wouldn't say that they have been seeing mediocre football these last few years. Admittedly they are struggling to get out of L2 but they are constantly running a tight ship as well as developing their own lads and selling them on. Having a turnover of players which is difficult for any manager yet Matt Taylor is still keeping them ultra competitive each season.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
There are loads the club could do better, I know that but regarding the smart recruitment bit. We sold a player we bought and developed for upwards of £2m last season and this season we’ve brought in two ex England youth international development players along with another two good prospects in defence. That’s not terrible. We sold another player that we developed for £1.5m 3 years ago as well. In that regard we have been better than most in recent years.
The main issue is that we have let the managers lead on football matters, there’s always going to be too big of a fluctuation in success if you do that as well as trying to operate sustainably. You can’t buy yourself out of bad decisions. A Director of Football isn’t the answer but a similar role in that ilk has been hinted at by the club.
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I saw some where that was supposed to be march from the Frenchgate to the ground yesterday with pyros, banners etc at 5 pm ( it had to be then after they had their tea after getting home from school) does anyone know if this took place and if so were there many folks on it.
If you go on Instagram there’s post from all over the world of clubs ultras and I think some of the younger element want that sort of thing at Donny. If you ever see these posts it just looks like a school trip that one of the bigger boys has bought 20 cans of Fosters
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tbh, any protests that have been and gone have been barely noticed. Embarrassing to say the least. At least do it properly if you are going to do it.
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We demand improvement. We demand change. We intend to make it happen. These are just the little things and just the beginning, the board still have the summer left as the very very last resort to sort it.
Oh! In your opinion what are you going to do? Club you’re pocket money together to buy the club or do you have a hedge fund lurking in a cupboard at home? This isn't a board defending post by the way I’m genuinely curious because for all the bluster I haven’t heard one sensible alternative
You haven’t asked the right people then unfortunately.
Could you expand on the possible alternatives?
A chairman that possesses more passion to wanting to be at a football club and can build a connection with the fanbase.
A footballing CEO who’s ideas are more suited to modern day football who see’s that building the clubs revenue through progression and smart recruitment on the football pitch as the absolute number 1 priority.
Look, neither Blunt or Baldwin are nasty c*nts like those at Oldham. They clearly don’t want us to fail. But we are and they are the reasons why. They are dinosaurs to the game now, just look for instance this “mentor” b*llocks they think is in any way, shape or form as compatible as things like a DoF.
Their ideas are outdated. Just look at your progressive clubs now that were/are a similar size to us.
I spotted our fall early on and was “just a troll”. Since then it’s become more obvious to a continuously growing number… And not just “young kids” as people like to throw about, I’ve spoken to people in their 40/50/60’s who now see it. I’ve spoken to people who early on disagreed massively with mine and others views of things who are now on the same side of thinking.
How this club is ran was fine in the early 2000’s. It isn’t now. Drastic change is absolutely necessary.
To give some credit here, at least this is an effort to explain the perspective with a degree of balance, and it’s not as pathetic as what you see on social media and hear at games from brainless dimwits.
That’s not to say I agree. I don’t think it’s the role of the Chairman to build a bond with the fans. But could the owners do with presenting someone with more charisma and personality to engage with the fanbase publicly and sell their vision? Perhaps so. On the fan engagement front, I think Shaun Lockwood is excellent.
I think Gavin Baldwin does a brilliant job within his remit as CEO and receives a load of harsh and unwarranted criticism from people that don’t understand his role and what he’s delivering. But could the club do with some more footballing expertise to lead the strategic direction on the footballing side? Probably yes.
There have been some errors in judgment in recent years that have allowed this current situation to happen. But the question is can you trust the current regime to reflect on that and learn from it? The answer in my opinion is yes.
Change won’t happen overnight, but I feel we’ve had a decent transfer window and that GM has a vision for how he wants to take the club forward in the long term. It will take some pain in the short term, but we need to ride that out. I’ve seen the question asked as to whether we’ve improved since dispensing of Wellens. I’m one of the ones that actually thought Wellens was harshly treated given the circumstances. But I believe GM probably has more of the character traits that the owners will trust (and I understand that) and I honestly feel in time he’ll give us a team to feel proud of again. There were genuine signs of that already beginning to show itself before last night’s abhorrent setback.
The truth is GM is still learning. Now that won’t wash with some and will fuel those that saw him as the cheap option, but it’s a fact he’s still learning and he’ll take a lot from the mistakes he’s owned last night. We’re not going to stay up anyway. So the painful part is seeing that learning process (amongst players and manager) play out in the coming months which invariably means we’ll see signs of hope (and I genuinely believe that) followed by stark reminders of why we’re bottom of the league.
We can all look at how we got here and some of the criticism is valid. But the main point is that the club can and will come back from this disappointing season. That’s because of the current owners, not in-spite of them or without them. The so-called Netto Brigade would be well served to think about what we do have here, not just what they want.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
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I saw some where that was supposed to be march from the Frenchgate to the ground yesterday with pyros, banners etc at 5 pm ( it had to be then after they had their tea after getting home from school) does anyone know if this took place and if so were there many folks on it.
If you go on Instagram there’s post from all over the world of clubs ultras and I think some of the younger element want that sort of thing at Donny. If you ever see these posts it just looks like a school trip that one of the bigger boys has bought 20 cans of Fosters
Nothing whatsoever to do with us “Netto lot”.
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I saw some where that was supposed to be march from the Frenchgate to the ground yesterday with pyros, banners etc at 5 pm ( it had to be then after they had their tea after getting home from school) does anyone know if this took place and if so were there many folks on it.
If you go on Instagram there’s post from all over the world of clubs ultras and I think some of the younger element want that sort of thing at Donny. If you ever see these posts it just looks like a school trip that one of the bigger boys has bought 20 cans of Fosters
Nothing whatsoever to do with us “Netto lot”.
Must have been the Lidl ultras
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I saw some where that was supposed to be march from the Frenchgate to the ground yesterday with pyros, banners etc at 5 pm ( it had to be then after they had their tea after getting home from school) does anyone know if this took place and if so were there many folks on it.
If you go on Instagram there’s post from all over the world of clubs ultras and I think some of the younger element want that sort of thing at Donny. If you ever see these posts it just looks like a school trip that one of the bigger boys has bought 20 cans of Fosters
Nothing whatsoever to do with us “Netto lot”.
Must have been the Lidl ultras
Not bad :lol:
We saw that post mentioning some march, had it shared in a chat. Not sure what or who it was because I don’t think it was a black bank march either.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
TixTheBox has been watching this thread for at least twenty minutes but seems to have come over all shy about giving a straight answer.
He is Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
I made a long enough post earlier in the thread :)
For all the talk of Gavin Baldwin and the non-footballing revenue he brings that’s soon negated by a lowering of football revenue the further we drop. I’m also shocked that it sounds the only man capable of bringing in off field revenue is Gavin Baldwin… Does he take the stadium with him when he’s sacked?! :ohmy:
Is Gavin Baldwin involved in any strategy planning, footballing appointments (managers, creation of new roles etc) and similar decisions?
If he isn’t, we take it all back. If he is, then we are justified. The football side of the business is going backwards and THAT is ultimately what has the biggest impact on our revenue.
Transfer fee’s are ridiculous at Championship and Premier League level… THAT is far and away the biggest potential revenue stream to a football club like ours. If done properly the other numbers pale into absolute insignificance.
MK Dons sold their star player Matt O’Riley and replaced him days later with our former impressive loanee Matt Smith, on a permanent deal.
We sold our star player Ben Whiteman and replaced him with 29yo journeyman John Bostock.
There’s levels and we are well off it.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
TixTheBox has been watching this thread for at least twenty minutes but seems to have come over all shy about giving a straight answer.
He is Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
You need to get out more, Glyn.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
TixTheBox has been watching this thread for at least twenty minutes but seems to have come over all shy about giving a straight answer.
He is Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
You need to get out more, Glyn.
I would get out more if I'd find an answer from you there.
Go on, you were telling us about about getting things straight right away.
What is the use of Netto imagery all about then? What's it supposed to tell the people you're hoping to persuade?
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And lo the ringleader appears.
Unlike an answer.
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Perhaps another view is ..... we sold our star play Ben Whiteman ...... our club remained solvent thro unprecedented times .......... and replaced him with a 29yo journeyman (assuming I've got my timeline correct :woohoo:)
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
TixTheBox has been watching this thread for at least twenty minutes but seems to have come over all shy about giving a straight answer.
He is Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
You need to get out more, Glyn.
I would get out more if I'd find an answer from you there.
Go on, you were telling us about about getting things straight right away.
What is the use of Netto imagery all about then? What's it supposed to tell the people you're hoping to persuade?
It’s about the cheapness of our club, which doesn’t have to mean budgets. Cheap decisions don’t have to fall purely down to money. Decisions with little thinking behind them are cheap. Same way as “talk is cheap”. Baldwin has numerous times made statements that aren’t backed up.
It is also about our club becoming a laughing stock, harking back to the days when your family shopping at Netto was the biggest embarrassment imaginable, your mates could dine on it for months.
It is also very f*cking catchy and grabbed your lots attention. Get used to it. It’s growing and staying until mistakes are acknowledge and drastic changes are made to halt our free fall and improve us. We want a modern, progressive club, not an out-dated regressive one. You may be a a very apathetic fan, but we aren’t.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
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Perhaps another view is ..... we sold our star play Ben Whiteman ...... our club remained solvent thro unprecedented times .......... and replaced him with a 29yo journeyman (assuming I've got my timeline correct :woohoo:)
We bigged the undisclosed fee up and didn’t think to put a small percentage of that into a replacement we could develop into another potential Ben Whiteman sale?
We sold our star striker John Marquis pre-pandemic and did the exact same.
We let genuine saleable assets contracts run down to lose them for nothing.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
Yeah I probably need to apologise to MK it may have blocked the pipes where I ripped the stickers off before pi55ing on them
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
We do support the club, that’s why we demand better.
“Netto crèche” I can vouch for plenty of us that have followed us all over the country from even the conference days :lol:
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
From anybody?
TixTheBox has been watching this thread for at least twenty minutes but seems to have come over all shy about giving a straight answer.
He is Boris Johnson and I claim my £5.
You need to get out more, Glyn.
I would get out more if I'd find an answer from you there.
Go on, you were telling us about about getting things straight right away.
What is the use of Netto imagery all about then? What's it supposed to tell the people you're hoping to persuade?
It’s about the cheapness of our club, which doesn’t have to mean budgets. Cheap decisions don’t have to fall purely down to money. Decisions with little thinking behind them are cheap. Same way as “talk is cheap”. Baldwin has numerous times made statements that aren’t backed up.
It is also about our club becoming a laughing stock, harking back to the days when your family shopping at Netto was the biggest embarrassment imaginable, your mates could dine on it for months.
It is also very f*cking catchy and grabbed your lots attention. Get used to it. It’s growing and staying until mistakes are acknowledge and drastic changes are made to halt our free fall and improve us. We want a modern, progressive club, not an out-dated regressive one. You may be a a very apathetic fan, but we aren’t.
I was right, you are Boris Johnson.
Only Boris would have taken a lot quicker than over an hour to think that lot up.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
We do support the club, that’s why we demand better.
“Netto crèche” I can vouch for plenty of us that have followed us all over the country from even the conference days :lol:
You must be old. Netto hasn't existed for fifteen years.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
Really? I don't know the 'Netto' lot from Adam but it's their club as much as yours and they have a right to do what the hell they like, within reason of course. If they don't think the club is being run properly and want to bring attention to this then fair play. They shouldn't be censured by folk who simply don't agree and have an archaic black and white view of what being a football fan is all about. Which is how i feel your post comes across.
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At a time when the team are not galvanised, the supporters should be.
This is not the team to cause division in the supporter group.
We have a lot to be thankful for. And a lot to look forward to.
A group of new players yet to prove themselves.
A chance to cause some upsets this season.
Another season of football next year. We’ve been in lge 2 before. It’s ok you know.
We will be back in higher leagues.
Three other teams will drop this season.
It’s all part of the rollercoaster that is drfc.
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Netto netto netto, Gavin Baldwin shops at netto… all our players are shite coz the board are so tight… Gavin Baldwin shops at netto….
Joking of course, people need to be grateful for what we do have, I think this netto brigade are either very young or they have very short memories!! I bet none of them carried the coffin years ago!!!!
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
We do support the club, that’s why we demand better.
“Netto crèche” I can vouch for plenty of us that have followed us all over the country from even the conference days :lol:
You must be old. Netto hasn't existed for fifteen years.
30. First home (and away) game aged 8.
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My nana who died a few years ago aged 91 bless her said of life “ you know f**k all till you are at least 40”
I believe she had a point.
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
We do support the club, that’s why we demand better.
“Netto crèche” I can vouch for plenty of us that have followed us all over the country from even the conference days :lol:
You must be old. Netto hasn't existed for fifteen years.
30. First home (and away) game aged 8.
You should be thankful you had a club to support aged 8 years old, and here you are at 30 years old making demands like a petulant 8 year old
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
There's always scope for things to be done better however your reference to Whitemans and Maquis 'sale' is naive.
Can you tell everyone about the clauses in the contracts they negotiated when extended their stays with us (rather than running down their contracts and leaving for free) ?
Have you taken the time to listen to Whitemans interview after he left, when he explained his reasons?
How is it there are hundreds of footballers and their agents across the world in all leagues that choose to run down their contracts?
Why are Peterborough fans bemoaning the amount of full time pros they have on their books picking up wages for nothing?
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
There's always scope for things to be done better however your reference to Whitemans and Maquis 'sale' is naive.
Can you tell everyone about the clauses in the contracts they negotiated when extended their stays with us (rather than running down their contracts and leaving for free) ?
Have you taken the time to listen to Whitemans interview after he left, when he explained his reasons?
How is it there are hundreds of footballers and their agents across the world in all leagues that choose to run down their contracts?
Why are Peterborough fans bemoaning the amount of full time pros they have on their books picking up wages for nothing?
I think you’re misreading my post Baz, I am not criticising the board for selling them.
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
But that was the point, he’d made it plain he wanted to move down south - unfortunately he held all the aces, so the club accepted a decent offer rather than lose for nothing
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I’ve not seen any of this Netto crèche. There were Netto stickers put on the mirrors in the toilets at mk dons though. Radical stuff. Kitsons.
I’d get the stewards to drag out any prick that turns up at the keepmoat with a yellow and black scarf alleging to be part of some protest group.
You either support the club, or you don’t. If you don’t, you are:
1. Not needed.
2. Not welcome.
3. Not wanted.
We do support the club, that’s why we demand better.
“Netto crèche” I can vouch for plenty of us that have followed us all over the country from even the conference days :lol:
You must be old. Netto hasn't existed for fifteen years.
30. First home (and away) game aged 8.
You should be thankful you had a club to support aged 8 years old, and here you are at 30 years old making demands like a petulant 8 year old
God sake Filo.
You must be one more pie away from a heart attack, you great blob
Is there any need for that abuse?
You’ve just called one of my fellow members of the netto brigade a petulant 8 year olds so yeah there is.
Also, Ticthebox is a proud shareholder in the Netto flag also I can confirm.
I said he was acting like a petulant 8 year old, not that he was one, but nice of you to come wading in anyway, no off you toddle and go spend your Netto vouchers
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
But that was the point, he’d made it plain he wanted to move down south - unfortunately he held all the aces, so the club accepted a decent offer rather than lose for nothing
I’m fully aware of that though (he was also genuine… I know someone who’s close to Marquis).
It’s still not the point I’m making, though. I’m not criticising us selling him (or anyone for that matter).
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So what happened to the Whiteman transfer money we received? Or are you saying the club did not receive transfer fees for Whiteman or Marquis?
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
There's always scope for things to be done better however your reference to Whitemans and Maquis 'sale' is naive.
Can you tell everyone about the clauses in the contracts they negotiated when extended their stays with us (rather than running down their contracts and leaving for free) ?
Have you taken the time to listen to Whitemans interview after he left, when he explained his reasons?
How is it there are hundreds of footballers and their agents across the world in all leagues that choose to run down their contracts?
Why are Peterborough fans bemoaning the amount of full time pros they have on their books picking up wages for nothing?
I think you’re misreading my post Baz, I am not criticising the board for selling them.
I know.
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And how would we have made Marquis stay short of relocating the stadium
Who said anything about making him stay? That’s not the points being made :lol:
Selling players is important, it’s one of the things we need to do better. It’s just a disaster waiting to happen when you don’t replace these players adequately enough or with a short term rental.
We might make decent use of the stadiums revenue potential (the stadium isn’t disappearing) but we are f*cking shit as a football club.
But that was the point, he’d made it plain he wanted to move down south - unfortunately he held all the aces, so the club accepted a decent offer rather than lose for nothing
I’m fully aware of that though (he was also genuine… I know someone who’s close to Marquis).
It’s still not the point I’m making, though. I’m not criticising us selling him (or anyone for that matter).
Out of interest, which clubs in L1 and L2 do you think operate in a way we should aspire to? Except MK.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
The issue we have is not and never has been about what size budget we have.
Let’s get that straight right away.
So what's all this 'Netto' bullshit about then, if it's not about money?
Does the forum get an answer?
I made a long enough post earlier in the thread :)
For all the talk of Gavin Baldwin and the non-footballing revenue he brings that’s soon negated by a lowering of football revenue the further we drop. I’m also shocked that it sounds the only man capable of bringing in off field revenue is Gavin Baldwin… Does he take the stadium with him when he’s sacked?! :ohmy:
Is Gavin Baldwin involved in any strategy planning, footballing appointments (managers, creation of new roles etc) and similar decisions?
If he isn’t, we take it all back. If he is, then we are justified. The football side of the business is going backwards and THAT is ultimately what has the biggest impact on our revenue.
Transfer fee’s are ridiculous at Championship and Premier League level… THAT is far and away the biggest potential revenue stream to a football club like ours. If done properly the other numbers pale into absolute insignificance.
MK Dons sold their star player Matt O’Riley and replaced him days later with our former impressive loanee Matt Smith, on a permanent deal.
We sold our star player Ben Whiteman and replaced him with 29yo journeyman John Bostock.
There’s levels and we are well off it.
OK, lets put some facts in place here.
1) The football revenue drops slightly for sure, but nowhere near enough for it to be a major concern, or even a concern. We've already seen the projections for if we have to exist on LG2 revenues next season so that's well taken care of. The amount of revenue generated by him since he came to the club is staggering, its about time he was given the credit for our sound financial performance.
2) No, Gavin isn't involved in any football strategy meetings. Of course he's involved in the interview process for a manager, but he's there to support the Chairman and to facilitate the process, he's an administrator. (I'm convinced you guys are being ignorant about Gavins role on purpose because it suits your agenda) I would suggest that there is no justification for your attack on him for those football decisions, and yet you pay little attention to DB. That's just weird, and smacks of a personal vendetta.
3) The football going backwards does not have the biggest impact on our revenue at all, that's just plain nonsense. For a bunch of people who think you have a handle on this I can assure you that you haven't, not by a long chalk.
4) Yes, transfer fees in the Championship and EPL are ridiculous. But adopting that philosophy is nowhere near as easy as people make out and requires a massive slice of luck and money. Look at Barnsley, they adopted the money-ball method some years ago, and look where they are now. How many players did they sell on last year? None, not a one!
5) And as you alluded to in another post, you stated that we allowed Ben Whitemans contract to run down, no we didn't, in fact the opposite was true. Ben signed an extended contract so as to guarantee a transfer fee for us as long as we allowed him to leave when a decent bid came in.
I understand the frustration with the way on field issues have played out over the last 12 months, but attacking GB and to some degree DB is just plain wrong and misguided. You do nothing to help rectify anything and tearing stuff down in the way you think you're doing is just laughable.
In fact, I would suggest Terry would be more angry with GB if he even thought of spending money the way that you keep suggesting. I think you need to grow up.
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ttb you are saying a lot without saying anything at all. All that is being asked is what you’re groups plans are to change things, to that you’ve said nothing at all. Has stated previously if you have a viable option you would have everyone’s attention
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You ought to have listened to the discussion on EFL club finances on talksport yesterday and the repercussions of the finances of a lot of the clubs in divisions 1 and 2 with regard to finance and sustainability, quite a few clubs are in deep doo doo and are kicking the inevitable down the road, it was frightening the numbers they were talking about treading on thin ice.
Just being in business in a couple of years time could be viewed as an at this time success.
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These idiots ( yes idiots) that keep going on about DRFC being Netto FC. Well f**k of and start your new club like FC United of Manchester did. Then we can support our club as it is run. Ran very well. Yes they do things that not everyone agrees. But they do a great job.
We survive well. Not in debt, thanks to TB and all associated with DRFC
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I haven’t got the solution but then again I don’t know the problem, other than we are clearly a well run club that is financially stable and with a decent budget, and generally good facilities and infrastructure - yet we’ve been relegated to the bottom tier twice in six seasons.
I don’t know how this happens given the hard yards that Dick, Terry and Gavin put in over those years. If we were a penniless wreck with no support like Scunny then fine but we are a robust and solid club with serious people in charge. How on earth we’ve been reduced to this latest shitshow is a mystery to me.
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Have any of you ever heard the saying,
“If you walk in a room that smells of shit, stay in the room for ten minutes, all of a sudden it doesn’t smell like shit”
That’s DRFC at the moment- all of you are immune to what’s going off, just because you can’t smell the shit, it doesn’t mean it isn’t shit!!
Just because you can smell shit doesn't mean you can treat others like shit.
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I haven’t got the solution but then again I don’t know the problem, other than we are clearly a well run club that is financially stable and with a decent budget, and generally good facilities and infrastructure - yet we’ve been relegated to the bottom tier twice in six seasons.
I don’t know how this happens given the hard yards that Dick, Terry and Gavin put in over those years. If we were a penniless wreck with no support like Scunny then fine but we are a robust and solid club with serious people in charge. How on earth we’ve been reduced to this latest shitshow is a mystery to me.
After all my years of supporting DRFC being a football fan, observing the fortune and misfortune of other clubs by comparison to our own, digesting it all, trying to understand it, I have come to the conclusion.
FOOTBALL KICKS YOU IN THE NUTS!
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Have any of you ever heard the saying,
“If you walk in a room that smells of shit, stay in the room for ten minutes, all of a sudden it doesn’t smell like shit”
That’s DRFC at the moment- all of you are immune to what’s going off, just because you can’t smell the shit, it doesn’t mean it isn’t shit!!
Just because you can smell shit doesn't mean you can treat others like shit.
Put a sock in it yeah.
If some of you lot get your tongue any further up filos arse then you’ll come out his mouth.
I smell shit.
It's good for the rest of Rovers fans to see the real puerile attitude of the Netto brigade for themselves. How to cover yourselves in a lack of glory in one easy lesson. So persuasive.
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Hmnn What happened to Netto in the UK They got bought out and disappeared under another name only to rise like a phoenix with a big name business partner only to disappear very quickly .............. Think about it carefully :)
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You can't blame youngsters for being wrong, it's their prerogative. We were young once and wrong, and that was our prerogative.
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You can't blame youngsters for being wrong, it's their prerogative. We were young once and wrong, and that was our prerogative.
So BB really stands for Bobby Brown!
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I wouldn’t class 30 as being a youngster BB, unless we’re talking in months.
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Haven’t read every entry so forgive me if I’ve missed something
What’s the significance of the scarves colour
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Haven’t read every entry so forgive me if I’ve missed something
What’s the significance of the scarves colour
Apparently it signifies doing things on the cheap
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Haven’t read every entry so forgive me if I’ve missed something
What’s the significance of the scarves colour
Apparently it signifies doing things on the cheap
Some people must have had their eyes closed all the way through January.
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When are these yellow and black scarfs arriving ?
Are you buying them in job lots 2, 3, 4, or a massive half a dozen ?
Also don’t be surprised or embarrassed if people laugh at you
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They're going to look like Hull fans! :silly:
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Seems a bit pointless and futile to me
The board have invested this transfer window
Rather than buy scarves if you’re not happy support someone else and be not happy watching them
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Wouldn’t it be better to buy Rovers scarfs and put a few quid into the club?
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Wouldn’t it be better to buy Rovers scarfs and put a few quid into the club?
You can’t do that it spoils the narrative
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Have any of you ever heard the saying,
“If you walk in a room that smells of shit, stay in the room for ten minutes, all of a sudden it doesn’t smell like shit”
That’s DRFC at the moment- all of you are immune to what’s going off, just because you can’t smell the shit, it doesn’t mean it isn’t shit!!
Just because you can smell shit doesn't mean you can treat others like shit.
Put a sock in it yeah.
If some of you lot get your tongue any further up filos arse then you’ll come out his mouth.
I smell shit.
It's good for the rest of Rovers fans to see the real puerile attitude of the Netto brigade for themselves. How to cover yourselves in a lack of glory in one easy lesson. So persuasive.
That is awkward as we’ve spoke and none of us know who he is :)
Unless you think we’d have me posting maturely just to have another one of us completely undo that by posting stuff like that? Come off it ffs :lol:
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Have any of you ever heard the saying,
“If you walk in a room that smells of shit, stay in the room for ten minutes, all of a sudden it doesn’t smell like shit”
That’s DRFC at the moment- all of you are immune to what’s going off, just because you can’t smell the shit, it doesn’t mean it isn’t shit!!
Just because you can smell shit doesn't mean you can treat others like shit.
Put a sock in it yeah.
If some of you lot get your tongue any further up filos arse then you’ll come out his mouth.
I smell shit.
It's good for the rest of Rovers fans to see the real puerile attitude of the Netto brigade for themselves. How to cover yourselves in a lack of glory in one easy lesson. So persuasive.
That is awkward as we’ve spoke and none of us know who he is :)
Unless you think we’d have me posting maturely just to have another one of us completely undo that by posting stuff like that? Come off it ffs :lol:
Once more, in English?
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Have any of you ever heard the saying,
“If you walk in a room that smells of shit, stay in the room for ten minutes, all of a sudden it doesn’t smell like shit”
That’s DRFC at the moment- all of you are immune to what’s going off, just because you can’t smell the shit, it doesn’t mean it isn’t shit!!
Just because you can smell shit doesn't mean you can treat others like shit.
Put a sock in it yeah.
If some of you lot get your tongue any further up filos arse then you’ll come out his mouth.
I smell shit.
It's good for the rest of Rovers fans to see the real puerile attitude of the Netto brigade for themselves. How to cover yourselves in a lack of glory in one easy lesson. So persuasive.
That is awkward as we’ve spoke and none of us know who he is :)
Unless you think we’d have me posting maturely just to have another one of us completely undo that by posting stuff like that? Come off it ffs :lol:
So basically you are saying he has nothing to do with your supermarket, even though he claims to be a member?
So is he a dick or not?
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When are these yellow and black scarfs arriving ?
Are you buying them in job lots 2, 3, 4, or a massive half a dozen ?
Also don’t be surprised or embarrassed if people laugh at you
Will come in useful when we play Oxford and Burton
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I have to admit that having not attended a game for well over 2 years now, I have been nothing more than a quiet observer, but it does scream out to me that there is something seriously and worryingly going wrong with the club. We appear to be in freefall and it has all the same symptoms of previous clubs where the problems go much much deeper than the playing staff and manager.
Can anyone point to a single element of the club, that when you compare it to 10 years ago, is in a much better position now than it was then? What has actually happened that would constitute a success?
We've gone from being a club that spent 6 seasons either in the Championship or fighting for promotion from League One, to a club that has spent 3 of the last 6 seasons either in League Two, or a relegation fight.
We somehow ended up in the laughable situation of sacking a manager 6 games into the season because the club were "ambitious for a top-six finish and that is, and will remain, our aim,". Yet we then ended up from said ambition of a play off finish to being relegated and not a single player of that squad was out of contract.
Fast forward a couple of years and we ended up reaching the play-offs with what has to be considered a heoric effort from the squad and had over half the first team out of contract.
In our last 3 relegations, we did not releive any of the managers of their duties - speaking of managers, the 8 we have had, 4 jumped ship at the first opportunity, and with the exception of Wellens, those that were sacked were either 6 games into the season or just after our only league title in 30 years.
Off the pitch we attract less fans and less season ticket holders than we did a decade ago, our fan base appears to be dwindling or shrinking, if you look at the latest balance sheet and accounts we generate less revenue and are no less reliant on the owners plugging the shortfall every year now than we were 10 years ago. Our debt situation does however look much better, but only because the debt has either been written off or converted to equity which dilutes the shareholding of other smaller shareholders like the supporters trust. I believe the total amount of money lost now stands at over £30 Million. Which let's face it, is a staggering amount but pocket change in modern football.
It appears that by almost every measurable metric, we are a club going backwards. It's inevitable that eventually the frustration of fans is aimed beyond the pitch and towards those running the club. I'm not going to try and blame the above on any one individual at the club or those owning it. I've been lucky over the years that due to varying roles across fan organisations, and volunteering my time to be SLO I was fortunate enough to spend time in the company of those running the club and I do genuinely believe they act in the club's best interest and I do believe that we owe them a huge debt of keeping our club going at the expense of their own wallets.
But I think it's right there is an air of concern at the moment and it's only right that questions are asked. Whilst the debacle in the Richardson era makes us all that much grateful to have owners like we do, it is also a lesson of what can go tragically wrong if those at the top are left unchecked and allowed to do as they please because no one has an answer to the question: "What's the alternative?"
As I say I haven't been as active over the past few years down to my own personal circumstances, and maybe this isn't the same mindset as the majority of Rovers fans, but is just my humble observation.
Five pages of the usual rubbish from the usual rabble and completely unsurprised to see not one person has anything to respond to this.
However the most important part of it is that its two years since Lee attended a game. Something that is endemic across Doncaster and the local public.
I'm bored of reading what a successful job they're doing when fans are clearly that turned off they've abandoned the club in their droves.
Talk to me about alternative revenue all you want but it relies on peoples opinion ultimately on the club.
I sat in a group chat on Monday this week with 7 people who used to attend Rovers regularly, two tickets for the Rotherham game were offered for free. Nobody opted to take them.
The problem at hand here is that none, including those at the top see that as an issue.
Regards
WesG (Four seasons without attending a home game)
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Wes
So you chose not to attend home games while we we getting to within a penalty kick away from Wembley, while we were having one of the greatest runs of league form in our history and while we matched our best cup run ever?
I wonder if the problem is with you and Crofty rather than the club? Some folk do lose their mojo as the years progress.
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Four seasons of attending away games, and putting money into other clubs rather than Rovers
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Maybe the people manufacturing the scarfs will make a bid to buy the club with all these funds they're making.
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Wes
So you chose not to attend home games while we we getting to within a penalty kick away from Wembley, while we were having one of the greatest runs of league form in our history and while we matched our best cup run ever?
I wonder if the problem is with you and Crofty rather than the club? Some folk do lose their mojo as the years progress.
Well, McCann and his team didn't overachieve that season so maybe those achievements weren't enough to persuade them to come back? ;)
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The main problem I see is, irrespective of what is said by the club, they (netto massif) choose to ignore, or refuse to believe. They also seem to change what is their point to this on a regular basis.
It would be great for them to meet with the club to ask their questions, and get answers (most which have been answered) and hopefully it could be done in public, so they can be seen by all.
Then they can return to being normal fans attending the games and supporting the club, rather than other clubs :blink:
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Wes
So you chose not to attend home games while we we getting to within a penalty kick away from Wembley, while we were having one of the greatest runs of league form in our history and while we matched our best cup run ever?
I wonder if the problem is with you and Crofty rather than the club? Some folk do lose their mojo as the years progress.
They do indeed and my time is certainly more limited and priorities different. I have however done 3 away games and 3 neutral games suggesting that I haven't fallen completely out of love with live football.
I'm sure you can look at the data and see I'm in the same pool as thousands of others.
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Why do the Netto leaders not ask for a meeting with the CEO and the Board to outline their grievances , get some explanations as and even make some suggestions .
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The main problem I see is, irrespective of what is said by the club, they (netto massif) choose to ignore, or refuse to believe. They also seem to change what is their point to this on a regular basis.
It would be great for them to meet with the club to ask their questions, and get answers (most which have been answered) and hopefully it could be done in public, so they can be seen by all.
Then they can return to being normal fans attending the games and supporting the club, rather than other clubs :blink:
I'm sure SM would be able to arrange something, if one of the Netto crew were man enough to do it whilst being streamed on the net. At least we'd know they were serious then.
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Wes
So you chose not to attend home games while we we getting to within a penalty kick away from Wembley, while we were having one of the greatest runs of league form in our history and while we matched our best cup run ever?
I wonder if the problem is with you and Crofty rather than the club? Some folk do lose their mojo as the years progress.
Well, McCann and his team didn't overachieve that season so maybe those achievements weren't enough to persuade them to come back? ;)
He pretty much achieved what I would have expected, give what he inherited and how he was supported.
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The Netto leaders could ask for a meeting with the Board and CEO but it would have take place after school has finished and before their dinosaur burgers and curly fries was ready, it doesn’t give much time.
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A meeting might achieve more than the usual pre prepared tame q's & a's.
And I'm not one of the brigade.
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Wes if you don’t like the club that much go and be unhappy with another club
Surely the idea behind supporting a club is to be there through thick or thin not just the days it suits
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They pay their money and have a right to their opinion. The board certainly have done themselves no favours this season and an acknowledgement of this might be helpful.
well said same as the do-gooders
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Wes if you don’t like the club that much go and be unhappy with another club
Surely the idea behind supporting a club is to be there through thick or thin not just the days it suits
This is such an archaic concept in today's modern football world. Gone are the days when most fans just had a few beers, watched the game and then went home and forgot about it. Many fans these days see themselves almost as shareholders with a stake in the club more than just an attendee. They want to be part of the club, lock, stock and barrel - without putting any of their own money in of course - but i understand the passion and the demand for accountability.
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A meeting might achieve more than the usual pre prepared tame q's & a's.
And I'm not one of the brigade.
You are quite at liberty to provide your own non-tame questions.
Did you do so.
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On another subject if we are doing so well with club Doncaster, why can’t we afford an experienced goalkeeper as has been suggested?.
The only thing that has got stronger is club Doncaster, which provides extra funding, the problem is for the money to be spent right you need the right manager. The last one wasn’t and this one looks none too promising.
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isn't it simple? All they're asking for is we get a better manager, buy some really good players, who can win matches and get us promoted? I mean, it's not that hard, surely?
Bournemouth got to the Premier League; Brighton got to the Premier League, Brentford are in the Premier League, so we should be at least in Tier 2!
Bloody shite - sack the board! And get in.... *checks notes* someone else!
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A meeting might achieve more than the usual pre prepared tame q's & a's.
And I'm not one of the brigade.
You are quite at liberty to provide your own non-tame questions.
Did you do so.
It was mentioned they might benefit from a meeting. Those in the so called brigade.
A lot of people were disappointed with the questions aimed at the owners last time around.
It should be a turn up and put them on the spot routine.
They don't have to answer or turn up. But they are losing fans. We aren't exactly a club that can afford that.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
Have to say this is a surprise. 'Shops at Netto' etc to me suggests that the crux of the issue for people pushing this argumenty is that not enough money is being spent.
If that's not what the folk behind that Netto flag are trying to get across then they might want to try a different tact/slogan because that's the first thing presumed by anyone I've heard talk about it, myself included.
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Wes if you don’t like the club that much go and be unhappy with another club
Surely the idea behind supporting a club is to be there through thick or thin not just the days it suits
Give over man... people's approach to support differs, things come and go in peoples lives that take precedence. I haven't been to a home game now in two and a half years, and I've felt distanced from the club this season too. For me it's nowt to do with the board as I see it, but a range of other factors.
You can be unhappy about a club, and you can be put off going, but they're still your club. None of us started supporting Rovers for the bloody glory.
Wes, hope you find a time when you're enthused about a home game again.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
Have to say this is a surprise. 'Shops at Netto' etc to me suggests that the crux of the issue for people pushing this argumenty is that not enough money is being spent.
If that's not what the folk behind that Netto flag are trying to get across then they might want to try a different tact/slogan because that's the first thing presumed by anyone I've heard talk about it, myself included.
Viva, would you be willing to interview a representative of the Netto brigade for the fanzine? If they really want changes to happen surely they'd jump at the chance for whatever their message is to reach more fans.
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Maybe the people manufacturing the scarfs will make a bid to buy the club with all these funds they're making.
I’m really hoping the scarfs are very very tight
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Viva, would you be willing to interview a representative of the Netto brigade for the fanzine? If they really want changes to happen surely they'd jump at the chance for whatever their message is to reach more fans.
No I wouldn't. But that's because I don't see why I should be interviewing any fan about what they think about the club really?
If people want to write a column for the fanzine about issues relating to the club then the door is always open to them as an independent platform. Always has been, always will be.
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Who remembers, "We follow them all over, in a Yorkshire Traction bus"? Not many, I'll gamble. Even fewer in the Netto Squad.
I have to say I've never been more embarassed to follow Doncaster Rovers. Not because of the dismal state of affairs on the pitch, or with the management. Many of us have experienced worse. Its cyclical. You think things are ticking along okay and out of the blue it suddenly all goes pear shape for a couple of seasons.
Then we bounce back, the ship stabilizes and things get back to normal.
No, what really causes me to be embarassed is those who drive support away by ridiculing the club and demonizing its every action across social media, on forums and general feet stamping. Juvenile tantrums, illogical demands, fantasy solutions, barely a brain cell between them but all over the internet like a fetid, stinking rash.
I want no association with them. I wish they would take their so-called 'support' elsewhere but it's not going to happen, is it? We are cursed with them like zombies in the Walking Dead.
The way the mood fluctuates on here is ridiculous. One win and the balloons are out, ticker tape parades, the only way is up, one day soon we'll win the Champions League.
One defeat and it's the end off the world. Alert the suicide squad. Samaritans working overtime.
If it weren't so seriously illogical and idiotic at both extremes then it would be laughable. A joke. No wonder folk stay away. Who wants to spend 90 minutes surrounded by and hearing nothing but the negative ill-informed opinions of morons?
If only the Netto squad could appreciate the damage they do. Instead of mouthing off constantly, why not get together, form an official group, appoint a chairman, bash out a load of proposals (solutions) and ask to meet the board so you can lay out your fully funded blueprint for securing a guaranteed future on the sunny uplands.
We don't need reminding how Bournemouth, Swansea, Brentford, Oldham, Bradford City and Barnsley all made it to the promised land. That is irrellevant. We'd love to read your costed plans for how it can be achieved at little old Donny and set against a timescale with details of where your funds are coming from, of course, and it will all meet Financial Fair Play regulations, won't it?
Instead of telling us what's wrong, tell us how to put it right and when you are going to start this master plan.
Surely that's not a lot to ask, is it?
Mind you, if you are really smart you will be down the Patent Office on Monday morning with your blueprint as there are at least 50 clubs out there who would pay a small fortune for this failsafe solution of yours.
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Who remembers, "We follow them all over, in a Yorkshire Traction bus"? Not many, I'll gamble. Even fewer in the Netto Squad.
I have to say I've never been more embarassed to follow Doncaster Rovers. Not because of the dismal state of affairs on the pitch, or with the management. Many of us have experienced worse. Its cyclical. You think things are ticking along okay and out of the blue it suddenly all goes pear shape for a couple of seasons.
Then we bounce back, the ship stabilizes and things get back to normal.
No, what really causes me to be embarassed is those who drive support away by ridiculing the club and demonizing its every action across social media, on forums and general feet stamping. Juvenile tantrums, illogical demands, fantasy solutions, barely a brain cell between them but all over the internet like a fetid, stinking rash.
I want no association with them. I wish they would take their so-called 'support' elsewhere but it's not going to happen, is it? We are cursed with them like zombies in the Walking Dead.
The way the mood fluctuates on here is ridiculous. One win and the balloons are out, ticker tape parades, the only way is up, one day soon we'll win the Champions League.
One defeat and it's the end off the world. Alert the suicide squad. Samaritans working overtime.
If it weren't so seriously illogical and idiotic at both extremes then it would be laughable. A joke. No wonder folk stay away. Who wants to spend 90 minutes surrounded by and hearing nothing but the negative ill-informed opinions of morons?
If only the Netto squad could appreciate the damage they do. Instead of mouthing off constantly, why not get together, form an official group, appoint a chairman, bash out a load of proposals (solutions) and ask to meet the board so you can lay out your fully funded blueprint for securing a guaranteed future on the sunny uplands.
We don't need reminding how Bournemouth, Swansea, Brentford, Oldham, Bradford City and Barnsley all made it to the promised land. That is irrellevant. We'd love to read your costed plans for how it can be achieved at little old Donny and set against a timescale with details of where your funds are coming from, of course, and it will all meet Financial Fair Play regulations, won't it?
Instead of telling us what's wrong, tell us how to put it right and when you are going to start this master plan.
Surely that's not a lot to ask, is it?
Mind you, if you are really smart you will be down the Patent Office on Monday morning with your blueprint as there are at least 50 clubs out there who would pay a small fortune for this failsafe solution of yours.
Thank you. Common sense.
As supporters we pay and our money and have a right to our own opinion.
I respect everyone who supports Rovers, because it’s never been an easy or fashionable option, has it? We’ve historically been a third or fourth tier club, and the Championship years were a wonderful thing. It’s been a pretty tumultuous decade for Rovers when you look back. We had the falling out of the three amigos, and all the shenanigans and nonsense with hedge funds and Louis Tomlinson… the experiment… There have been mistakes and missteps even when JR, TB and DW were together.
I believe we can have a solid Championship club. But now there needs to be consolidation at the club. We’ve had a period of chaos in terms of managers, some of it out of the board’s control, some of it not.
We all know it is much easier to be an armchair supporter of a big premier league club… But we’re better people than that. Because we care.
The supporters of our club dug deep 25 years ago to campaign against a criminal owner that willfully wanted to close down the club for the land he thought the club owned.
JR resurrected us and brought in Terry and Dick. We know what happened then. A blaze of glory, new ground, champagne football, sticking two fingers up to the bigger clubs…
All things comes to an end though, even the good things, and now we’ve been in a downwards trajectory. That too will end.
I don’t think any supporter is happy with the current state of things. Sure we can argue about this, that or the other, but it doesn’t solve anything.
I feel sure the board recognise and acknowledge the situation too. They’re not stupid. I think having a go at Gavin Baldwin personally is way put of line. He’s one of the best at what he does. The club does need other revenue streams, and Club Doncaster is very progressive IMO.
Terry funds the club. David Blunt holds the purse strings. So if anything, if the complaint is financial, maybe questions should be asked of DB?
We are where we are. I suggest if a group of supporters have serious intentions regarding changes at the top, then come prepared. Do your homework, ask for a meeting with David Blunt. He’s the Chairman. Have your questions sorted. Have alternative solutions to hand. What would you like to see? Otherwise it just looks like a bunch of fools jumping up and down behind a cheap flag. You need to be legit.
If we do manage the seemingly impossible and stay up, amazing. Personally, I’m ok with going down to L2 and regrouping. I really do think we have a guy in McSheffrey who is astute, obviously on a steep learning curve, but who is intelligent and given a decent amount of time, can really put something special together at Rovers.
We need some continuity. I think we’ve actually recruited pretty well last month. Question marks over the Mitchell and Clayton’s fitness but maybe both come good.
I’m as pissed off as the next fan right now, but I believe things will improve. GMc needs time. Hopefully he gets it.
And I hope the Netto brigade are able to air their grievances in a mature and organized way if they have true merit and are not simply foot stamping.
RTID
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Donnybob/PDX
Brilliant posts couldn’t have put it better
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I echo wholeheartedly the content of those previous extended posts
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Up to the point when the first lockdown came, when we were improving in the second half of the season with Jacob Ramsey on board etc, there was a buzz about the place. The club had already enhanced the fan park with outside caterers, the stage set up outside with a DJ and music, it was a good place to be. There was a chance, particularly with the games in hand, that we could achieve the play offs as we were playing so great football. Then boom, the season curtailed and we lose out on PPG.
Wind the clock on, we're doing OK at top of league, then Whiteman leaves, the momentum turns the wrong way, DM does a runner and the rest till now is history.
That said, at the start of this season there was a buzz, with fans being allowed back, Wellens has been appointed and there's fresh optimism....until....
So, overall the club wasn't in a bad place however, the obvious set backs are bound to have an effect, it knocks the stuffing out of us.
Trouble is, everyone starts searching for the problem, the conspiracy when all it really comes down to is the output on the pitch which is mainly due to the upheaval of the change in the manager
No point going through all the whys and wherefores of all that but sometimes the answer is a simple one rather than something being fundamentally wrong behind the scenes, despite Covid, despite sadly losing Dick Watson.
Lee, I don't know why you chose to reminisce about 10 years ago, things weren't always rosy back then either. Attendances were already declining after the initial promotion to the Championship with the novelty wearing off etc.
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Why do you have to wear scarves to identify yourself as the Netto brigade. We know who you are already when every goal goes in against us and your moronic chants
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Donnybob/PDX
Brilliant posts couldn’t have put it better
Me too.
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Up to the point when the first lockdown came, when we were improving in the second half of the season with Jacob Ramsey on board etc, there was a buzz about the place. The club had already enhanced the fan park with outside caterers, the stage set up outside with a DJ and music, it was a good place to be. There was a chance, particularly with the games in hand, that we could achieve the play offs as we were playing so great football. Then boom, the season curtailed and we lose out on PPG.
Wind the clock on, we're doing OK at top of league, then Whiteman leaves, the momentum turns the wrong way, DM does a runner and the rest till now is history.
That said, at the start of this season there was a buzz, with fans being allowed back, Wellens has been appointed and there's fresh optimism....until....
So, overall the club wasn't in a bad place however, the obvious set backs are bound to have an effect, it knocks the stuffing out of us.
Trouble is, everyone starts searching for the problem, the conspiracy when all it really comes down to is the output on the pitch which is mainly due to the upheaval of the change in the manager
No point going through all the whys and wherefores of all that but sometimes the answer is a simple one rather than something being fundamentally wrong behind the scenes, despite Covid, despite sadly losing Dick Watson.
Lee, I don't know why you chose to reminisce about 10 years ago, things weren't always rosy back then either. Attendances were already declining after the initial promotion to the Championship with the novelty wearing off etc.
Exactly. It’s life.
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Has the banner with Gavin Baldwins image on been produced legally.Has Gavin given permission for his image to be used.
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
Have to say this is a surprise. 'Shops at Netto' etc to me suggests that the crux of the issue for people pushing this argumenty is that not enough money is being spent.
If that's not what the folk behind that Netto flag are trying to get across then they might want to try a different tact/slogan because that's the first thing presumed by anyone I've heard talk about it, myself included.
This.
I’d be genuinely interested to hear this one answered as I’m finding the concept a bit confusing.
Rather like when your strapline is ”support the team not the regime” but your signature song includes the line ”all our players are shite.”
It doesn’t quite seem to add up.
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Has the banner with Gavin Baldwins image on been produced legally.Has Gavin given permission for his image to be used.
Good point surely this is a form of bullying
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Not one of us involved in “Netto” have said Terry Bramall’s money isn’t good enough, neither has anything been aimed at him.
Have to say this is a surprise. 'Shops at Netto' etc to me suggests that the crux of the issue for people pushing this argumenty is that not enough money is being spent.
If that's not what the folk behind that Netto flag are trying to get across then they might want to try a different tact/slogan because that's the first thing presumed by anyone I've heard talk about it, myself included.
This.
I’d be genuinely interested to hear this one answered as I’m finding the concept a bit confusing.
Rather like when your strapline is ”support the team not the regime” but your signature song includes the line ”all our players are shite.”
It doesn’t quite seem to add up.
I got a sort of answer to that last night. Eventually. It didn't make sense but at least they had a go.
But you're right, it all does give the impression of being made up as they're going along.
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Why do you have to wear scarves to identify yourself as the Netto brigade. We know who you are already when every goal goes in against us and your moronic chants
At least we'll know how few of them there are...
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Has the banner with Gavin Baldwins image on been produced legally.Has Gavin given permission for his image to be used.
The club would be very right to kick out anyone bearing such a flag.I’ve said it before, football grounds are not public places. They are places to which the public are allowed access providing they comply with ground and club regulations.
If I owned a football club, I would not stand for it.
Protest outside by all means. By not inside.
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In fact the very top of the ground regs cater for this. I suspect quite a few people, myself included would be pissed if a banner slating our owners was on display.
Notwithstanding possession of any ticket the Club, any police officer or authorised steward may refuse entry to (or eject from) the Ground any person:
1.1 that fails (or in the Club's reasonable opinion is likely to fail) to comply with these Ground Regulations or any reasonable instruction issued by a police officer or authorised steward; and/or
1.2 whose presence within the Ground is, or could (in the Club's reasonable opinion), constitute a source of danger, nuisance or annoyance to any other person.
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
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Something needs to change a quick as we are and have been going backwards (on the pitch) for far too long.
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Has the banner with Gavin Baldwins image on been produced legally.Has Gavin given permission for his image to be used.
The club would be very right to kick out anyone bearing such a flag.I’ve said it before, football grounds are not public places. They are places to which the public are allowed access providing they comply with ground and club regulations.
If I owned a football club, I would not stand for it.
Protest outside by all means. By not inside.
I’m in no way in support of a protest against the board but was you against the protests that occurred in the ground during the Richardson era?
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
All I could here was chants about child abuse; wish they would stay quiet if that’s the sort of crap they come out with.
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
All I could here was chants about child abuse; wish they would stay quiet if that’s the sort of crap they come out with.
I did hear some 'paedo' chants, presumably aimed at the Rotherham fans? Not sure why but not the best from groups of giggling small boys in the BB.
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
All I could here was chants about child abuse; wish they would stay quiet if that’s the sort of crap they come out with.
I did hear some 'paedo' chants, presumably aimed at the Rotherham fans? Not sure why but not the best from groups of giggling small boys in the BB.
I’m sure they were aimed at the Rotherham fans; sadly there will be victims of child abuse in the ground from both communities and these idiots are considering the issue banter. It’s an absolute disgrace and it’s one of the many things that is really turning me away from Doncaster Rovers as a club; I’ve been a supporter since the 1980 and was always on the pop side; they had great songs, Original songs and great banter. This lot are just pathetic, moronic, selfish idiots for most part.
It’s the same lot that stand in gangways at away grounds blocking people’s views; including those who can’t stand up. They are ruining the atmosphere at games for me and just need to learn to think for themselves, take responsibility or move on back to the youthy.
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
All I could here was chants about child abuse; wish they would stay quiet if that’s the sort of crap they come out with.
I did hear some 'paedo' chants, presumably aimed at the Rotherham fans? Not sure why but not the best from groups of giggling small boys in the BB.
I’m sure they were aimed at the Rotherham fans; sadly there will be victims of child abuse in the ground from both communities and these idiots are considering the issue banter. It’s an absolute disgrace and it’s one of the many things that is really turning me away from Doncaster Rovers as a club; I’ve been a supporter since the 1980 and was always on the pop side; they had great songs, Original songs and great banter. This lot are just pathetic, moronic, selfish idiots for most part.
It’s the same lot that stand in gangways at away grounds blocking people’s views; including those who can’t stand up. They are ruining the atmosphere at games for me and just need to learn to think for themselves, take responsibility or move on back to the youthy.
Take your point aidenstu. Agree with much of it. Whilst i recognise that i was a young lad once and did some immature stuff, it is the actions such as standing up and blocking the view of other fans that i really detest. Pure acts of selfish entitlement. If they do want to stand, which they shouldn't be anyway in a seated stadium but OK i guess- then stand at the f**king back, selfish tw*ts. Some of them need kicking out for behaviours like this. Not sure how some of them have been dragged up tbh.
I've been to many games of other clubs in the past 10-15 years or so and this kind of thing happens at most clubs so it isn't exclusive to DRFC. It's just kids who seem these days, not all of them but many, who don't think of others. I wouldn't dream of standing up in the middle of stand knowing full well that other fellow fans behind me would not be able to see or would have to go through the inconvenience of moving seats, and i wouldn't have done so as a youth either.
Either stand at the back or f**k off i say.
As for the chants. Yes, some are potentially inflammatory and insensitive and sadly this has always been the case. I don't think these fans are yet mature enough to understand that others might be affected by their actions and whilst i can understand that they just want o have a laugh with their mates, i do think that some of their actions need addressing.
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I'd be pissed off too & could see it causing problems within our own fans tbh, the last thing we need.
I thought there was decent noise coming from the south stands on Tuesday given the circumstances, let's hope we can stick to supporting the team.
All I could here was chants about child abuse; wish they would stay quiet if that’s the sort of crap they come out with.
I did hear some 'paedo' chants, presumably aimed at the Rotherham fans? Not sure why but not the best from groups of giggling small boys in the BB.
I’m sure they were aimed at the Rotherham fans; sadly there will be victims of child abuse in the ground from both communities and these idiots are considering the issue banter. It’s an absolute disgrace and it’s one of the many things that is really turning me away from Doncaster Rovers as a club; I’ve been a supporter since the 1980 and was always on the pop side; they had great songs, Original songs and great banter. This lot are just pathetic, moronic, selfish idiots for most part.
It’s the same lot that stand in gangways at away grounds blocking people’s views; including those who can’t stand up. They are ruining the atmosphere at games for me and just need to learn to think for themselves, take responsibility or move on back to the youthy.
Take your point aidenstu. Agree with much of it. Whilst i recognise that i was a young lad once and did some immature stuff, it is the actions such as standing up and blocking the view of other fans that i really detest. Pure acts of selfish entitlement. If they do want to stand, which they shouldn't be anyway in a seated stadium but OK i guess- then stand at the f**king back, selfish tw*ts. Some of them need kicking out for behaviours like this. Not sure how some of them have been dragged up tbh.
I've been to many games of other clubs in the past 10-15 years or so and this kind of thing happens at most clubs so it isn't exclusive to DRFC. It's just kids who seem these days, not all of them but many, who don't think of others. I wouldn't dream of standing up in the middle of stand knowing full well that other fellow fans behind me would not be able to see or would have to go through the inconvenience of moving seats, and i wouldn't have done so as a youth either.
Either stand at the back or f**k off i say.
As for the chants. Yes, some are potentially inflammatory and insensitive and sadly this has always been the case. I don't think these fans are yet mature enough to understand that others might be affected by their actions and whilst i can understand that they just want o have a laugh with their mates, i do think that some of their actions need addressing.
I couldn’t agree more.
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There was the paedo chants too, unfortunately, but it wasn't just that.
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Check an egg at the back of their heads if they stand up in front of you and call it 'banter'.
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Check an egg at the back of their heads if they stand up in front of you and call it 'banter'.
Make sure it’s hard boiled.
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Nah, you'll want to watch it dripping down inside their collar!
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Some very childish posts by the usual suspects. And you call the Netto lot kids?
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I’m not a Netto Fc supporter but Gavin does carry that basket well on the flag, if it was Aldi they would still be frisbeeing shopping into it!. :laugh:.
It’s humour but not funny to some. No idea why the guy is the one on the flag as he isn’t the fella who makes the decisions, he is the mouthpiece of the board.
I don’t understand paying for a ticket and booing your own players myself, but as long as there’s no racism etc then they are allowed an opinion.
I don’t think a businessman would be bothered by a few flags, he will be tougher minded than that.
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Some very childish posts by the usual suspects. And you call the Netto lot kids?
The usual suspects...from someone who only registered two days ago.
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Some very childish posts by the usual suspects. And you call the Netto lot kids?
The usual suspects...from someone who only registered two days ago.
and that is relevant because? Might be a poster who has spent years as a guest.
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Some very childish posts by the usual suspects. And you call the Netto lot kids?
The usual suspects...from someone who only registered two days ago.
Anyone can view comments on the forum. You have to be registered to make a post
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Has the banner with Gavin Baldwins image on been produced legally.Has Gavin given permission for his image to be used.
The club would be very right to kick out anyone bearing such a flag.I’ve said it before, football grounds are not public places. They are places to which the public are allowed access providing they comply with ground and club regulations.
If I owned a football club, I would not stand for it.
Protest outside by all means. By not inside.
I’m in no way in support of a protest against the board but was you against the protests that occurred in the ground during the Richardson era?
Aidenstu
The difference being that the whole fan base was very much united against Richardson and his muppet Weaver and our club did nearly die.
That is light years from where we are with this group of supporters.
In fact there is no comparison.
BVB
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Difference back then was we were being destroyed on purpose by an owner with unscrupulous intentions
Our current owners and Gavin are ensuring money goes into the club
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Difference back then was we were being destroyed on purpose by an owner with unscrupulous intentions
Our current owners and Gavin are ensuring money goes into the club
I agree and certainly took part in the protests myself; I was probably being Facetious; but your point was that protests should stay out of grounds. I don’t agree and would be a hypocrite if I did.
As I said I dont agree with calling for the board to go; I do think they need a bit of support and rejuvenating though. It just seems there are silly, quite obvious mistakes being made over the past couple of years and I don’t know what that is about.
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Difference back then was we were being destroyed on purpose by an owner with unscrupulous intentions
Our current owners and Gavin are ensuring money goes into the club
I agree and certainly took part in the protests myself; I was probably being Facetious; but your point was that protests should stay out of grounds. I don’t agree and would be a hypocrite if I did.
As I said I dont agree with calling for the board to go; I do think they need a bit of support and rejuvenating though. It just seems there are silly, quite obvious mistakes being made over the past couple of years and I don’t know what that is about.
It's the team that needs support and rejuvenating! That's what GM has been tasked to do. He's accepted that challenge and is working on turning that around by working with the new players to find that formula that works.
Why are Rotherham top? They've had a 5 or 6 year head start with Paul Warne.
During the curtailed season, they were no better than us. They had the benefit of fullfilling the Bolton and Wigan fixtures whilst we were denied that. Their PPG got them up from which they benefitted from an extra £6m in revenue without kicking another ball. Was there an element of good fortune and misfortune involved with respective clubs?
Rotherhans and Warnes continuity counts for alot. He's been able to gradually improve his squad and perfect their chosen method of play.
Winning games rejuvenates everyone. Nobody gives a toss about the board when we're winning games!
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Check an egg at the back of their heads if they stand up in front of you and call it 'banter'.
Very immature comment.
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Check an egg at the back of their heads if they stand up in front of you and call it 'banter'.
Very immature comment.
I thought it was just a bad yolk. ;)
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I actually thought it was a fowl comment to make.
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Definitely not all white.
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Who gives a cluck
:sick:
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Some very childish posts by the usual suspects. And you call the Netto lot kids?
The usual suspects...from someone who only registered two days ago.
Anyone can view comments on the forum. You have to be registered to make a post
That's easy for you to say EasyforDennis ......are you dennis in disguise?
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Check an egg at the back of their heads if they stand up in front of you and call it 'banter'.
Very immature comment.
Egg-scuse me
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Give ova. :sick:
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fair play it's an ambryo
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Guess you have to see the sunny side
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double side?