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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: wilts rover on October 05, 2022, 08:11:52 am
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A minister under Johnson was accussed of sexual misconduct by a female civil servant. Johnson was made aware but refused to allow an investigation into the allegations (under the ministerial code the PM has the final say on whether an investigation can be launched into complaints against cabinet ministers).
Clearly he was innocent as he sent a letter of apology and agreed a financial settlement over his actions 'it is believed'.
A second woman also reported the same ex-minister making inappropriate comments to her.
The man is still an MP and member of the Tory Party.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/04/one-of-boris-johnsons-ministers-accused-of-sexual-harassment-17502161/?ito=socialmetrouktwitter
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Im a left of centre man Wilts but I’m pretty sure there is sexual misconduct on all sides of the house.
I’m sure I read a while ago there were 60 odd investigations ongoing in the House of Commons regarding allegations of sexual misconduct.
In other news, did you notice Pincher by name, Pincher by nature has had his investigation dropped by the Commons Watchdog because the alleged offences did not happen on the Commons Estate.
There was no dispute that the allegations happened at a Gentleman’s Club, so why was it ever started?
(Mind you, it got rid of the liar Johnson, so maybe was worthwhile)
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https://news.sky.com/story/trade-minister-conor-burns-sacked-from-govt-after-complaint-of-serious-misconduct-12714659
Maybe I spoke too soon. What is wrong with these people??
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I am pretty sure you are correct mugnapper in that this happens in all parties (been a couple of cases with the SNP I seem to remember, Jeremy Thorpe famously for the LD) but it has been far, far worse in the Tory Party post Cameron. 2 ex-MP's have been jailed for rape, this other one under investigation (not Burn) now Burn whatever he has done.
And they think Pincher is fit to be a constituency MP after groping people in public.
An arrogant personality and the abuse of power - is my guess at answering your question. Most MP's (of all parties are good decent, honest people, but a far too large percentage are just out for themselves.
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The Guardian have helpfully put this list together
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/07/conor-burns-dismissal-which-other-tories-have-faced-misconduct-allegations
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The Guardian have helpfully put this list together
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/07/conor-burns-dismissal-which-other-tories-have-faced-misconduct-allegations
Just for balance Syd, here is a list of Labour People who have been found guilty of sex offences.
LABOUR PARTY:
Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.
Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.
Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault against little girls between the age of 6 and 10. He raped one woman on her wedding day.
Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.
Entire Labour Party conspired to conceal the activities of Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.
Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.
Labour Councillor Liam Temple Inciting a child into ‘gross’ indecency
Labour Party Lord Mayor Stewart Brown Child Pornography
Sam Chaudry Labour Party Lord Mayor Elect & Labour Party Councillor Child Rapist
Nicholas Green Labour Party Lord Mayor Labour Party Councillor 13 rapes & assaults on Children
Keith Potts Labour Party Councillor Junior School Governor
Alan Prescott Labour Party Councillor Molesting Children in a ‘Care-Home ‘Where he worked.
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I thought we are talking about MP's? If you want a list of Tory councillors with their dicks where they shopuldn't be, I'm sure we could oblige.
BobG
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Anyone remember this:
https://twitter.com/realgmg67/status/1578144662031724544
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
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Hasn't there been about 55% more Tory MPS than Labour MPS since Cameron?
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Don’t hold your breath lol!
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Don’t hold your breath lol!
Especially if he has to go back over 20 years to make up that list too
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
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Hound, you really ought to know by now that the BST party change the goalposts regularly, and only their rules count!
I honestly don't know why you bother. They're never gonna change.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Don’t hold your breath lol!
Especially if he has to go back over 20 years to make up that list too
There wouldn't be enough room on the VSC server if hound went back 26 years and reported all the tory councillors, activist and fb scuttlebutt like the list he put up.
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Hound, you really ought to know by now that the BST party change the goalposts regularly, and only their rules count!
I honestly don't know why you bother. They're never gonna change.
Yeah, I know BB.
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I'd be more concerned with libel over that list you posted than shooting the breeze with bb, hound
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
Not interested in balance then?
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I'd be more concerned with liable over that list you posted than shooting the breeze with bb, hound
Why.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
Not interested in balance then?
You need to get over your obsession with diving in on my posts.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
Not interested in balance then?
You need to get over your obsession with diving in on my posts.
Pot?
Kettle?
You’re the master of diving in on another persons posts?
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
But you are the one who always calls out Syd and goes on about balance? You will have people thinking you are just as bad, if not worse than him, if you only list one side? I mean no-one has ever accused Syd of being a hypocrite (just biased) ...
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Anyone who thinks abuse is a party political issue is an idiot, that shouldn't even be up for debate it's bloody obvious.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
But you are the one who always calls out Syd and goes on about balance? You will have people thinking you are just as bad, if not worse than him, if you only list one side? I mean no-one has ever accused Syd of being a hypocrite (just biased) ...
Wilts, with respect, can you show me where I always call out Syd for balance.
Maybe an odd time but not anywhere near as much as you are suggesting.
However, yes he is very biased and if the Guardian didn’t exist he would be stuck for something to do every day.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
Not interested in balance then?
You need to get over your obsession with diving in on my posts.
Pot?
Kettle?
You’re the master of diving in on another persons posts?
Nowhere near as much as you Filo.
You invariably dive in to criticise me when the chance arises.
Syd is the same with posts by bfyp.
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I'm so much better off ignoring your inane posts hound but when I post to pud my political opposite, I usually post questions directly to an unsubstantiated comment or on his position, I am not conducting a petty feud nor posting for arguments sake, I don't hate his party either.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
But you are the one who always calls out Syd and goes on about balance? You will have people thinking you are just as bad, if not worse than him, if you only list one side? I mean no-one has ever accused Syd of being a hypocrite (just biased) ...
Wilts, with respect, can you show me where I always call out Syd for balance.
Maybe an odd time but not anywhere near as much as you are suggesting.
However, yes he is very biased and if the Guardian didn’t exist he would be stuck for something to do every day.
That may be true hound - but I dont ever remember a pro-Labour posting among your 26000+ posts? Difficult to call one poster biased when you only post to back up/attack one-side - as you have shown in this thread.
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Has anyone got any real knowledge of what has actually happened
All I’ve read is that he has touched someone legs. I assume that because he’s been suspended it must have been unwarranted
Has anyone read any more detail and knows it wasn’t a boyfriend or someone he knew.
If he’s done wrong then he gets what’s coming
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What did he say to Mel B in the lift that's what everone really really want's to know
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Given that Johnson didn't suspended an actual peodophile, two alleged rapists & two others who admitted sexual misconduct - you can be pretty sure that whatever Burns has done must be pretty serious.
There is no suggestion as yet that Burns is the ex-minister referred to in my OP - as this refers to an allegation with two female colleagues. It must be just a coinicidence?
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Wilts there’s nothing like being biased and narrow minded about a subject. With that kind of thought process all radio one dj’s and children's tv presenters must be sex offenders and I’m sure that’s not the case
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What did he say to Mel B in the lift that's what everone really really want's to know
I’ll tell you what I want, what I really really want.
Lol!
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
But you are the one who always calls out Syd and goes on about balance? You will have people thinking you are just as bad, if not worse than him, if you only list one side? I mean no-one has ever accused Syd of being a hypocrite (just biased) ...
Wilts, with respect, can you show me where I always call out Syd for balance.
Maybe an odd time but not anywhere near as much as you are suggesting.
However, yes he is very biased and if the Guardian didn’t exist he would be stuck for something to do every day.
That may be true hound - but I dont ever remember a pro-Labour posting among your 26000+ posts? Difficult to call one poster biased when you only post to back up/attack one-side - as you have shown in this thread.
Wilts, the vast majority of my posts are about football.
The off topic stuff is something I ventured into out of interest a few years back as I was bemused by the vehement hatred of the Tories expressed by many on here.
I admit that I haven’t said much which is pro Labour but that is partly due to me not seeing much from them that I like.
It is also partly because I have often disagreed with some of the anti government comments that I have read which I have found to be unfair.
The way that the pro Labour at whatever the cost posters pile in has driven me further away from ever voting Labour.
The same posters also hunt in a pack if someone like me disagrees with them and can be accused of inane ramblings etc for not toeing the Labour line.
I am not the only non Labour voter who feels the same way either.
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"The way that the pro Labour at whatever the cost posters pile in has driven me further away from ever voting Labour."
Regardless of who you prefer to vote for, that argument should not influence your decision. Vote on the candidates and what they stand for, which you believe is in your best interest, nothing more and nothing less.
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So, what you mean is don't be influenced by people telling you to vote for a party with the fewest sex pests in its midst?
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No, I mean make your own mind up regardless of which party you prefer. That’s all.
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"The way that the pro Labour at whatever the cost posters pile in has driven me further away from ever voting Labour."
Regardless of who you prefer to vote for, that argument should not influence your decision. Vote on the candidates and what they stand for, which you believe is in your best interest, nothing more and nothing less.
IDM, I understand what you are saying but in my above post I did say that part of the reason I don’t say much pro Labour stuff is that I haven’t seen much from them that I like.
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Hound most of the pro-Labour at any cost posters on here strangely remind me of Margaret Thatchers. They’re not for turning
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Hound most of the pro-Labour at any cost posters on here strangely remind me of Margaret Thatchers. They’re not for turning
Keep on voting for truss phil and you'll be needing a visa to be where you are.
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You’re taking a lot for granted Syd. Who says I would vote for Truss or the Tories.
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Struggling to see many Labour MP's in that list hound.
Are you now going to do a list of Tory People for us - for balance of course?
Nah mate, that’s a job for Syd.
Anyway, the thread title is “another Tory sex pest” and it doesn’t say they have to be MPs.
But you are the one who always calls out Syd and goes on about balance? You will have people thinking you are just as bad, if not worse than him, if you only list one side? I mean no-one has ever accused Syd of being a hypocrite (just biased) ...
Wilts, with respect, can you show me where I always call out Syd for balance.
Maybe an odd time but not anywhere near as much as you are suggesting.
However, yes he is very biased and if the Guardian didn’t exist he would be stuck for something to do every day.
That may be true hound - but I dont ever remember a pro-Labour posting among your 26000+ posts? Difficult to call one poster biased when you only post to back up/attack one-side - as you have shown in this thread.
Wilts, the vast majority of my posts are about football.
The off topic stuff is something I ventured into out of interest a few years back as I was bemused by the vehement hatred of the Tories expressed by many on here.
I admit that I haven’t said much which is pro Labour but that is partly due to me not seeing much from them that I like.
It is also partly because I have often disagreed with some of the anti government comments that I have read which I have found to be unfair.
The way that the pro Labour at whatever the cost posters pile in has driven me further away from ever voting Labour.
The same posters also hunt in a pack if someone like me disagrees with them and can be accused of inane ramblings etc for not toeing the Labour line.
I am not the only non Labour voter who feels the same way either.
I post on topics I find interesting and reply to posts I find interesting. I find the most interesting posts are the ones I disagree with - I haven't generally got much to say about the ones I agree with. People can take that exactly as they wish.
Always enjoyed the banter with you hound - and not really fussed about how you feel about other posters to be honest. Hopefully neither are they.
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You’re taking a lot for granted Syd. Who says I would vote for Truss or the Tories.
I just wonder is all when you disparage labour, the only party with a chance of getting rid of them.
Oh and woke lefties an all that