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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Sprotyrover on January 28, 2023, 11:10:14 pm
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Mrs Krankies days in the Scottish Parliament may be numbered after it transpires the the Double rapist convicted last week has actually spent all his time whilst remanded in custody prior to his trial in a Scottish Women's prison after putting a Bra on stuffed with toilet paper three days after being charged , he declared himself female and under current Scottish law that entitled him to be remanded in a female prison, where by all accounts he shagged himself silly,(the evidence will appear in about 7 to 9 months!)Krankie has tried to blame the head of Scotlands Prison service but said individual has kept a full Audit trail of emails from the First minister of Scotland demanding he be put into a Women's Prison.
The story has also blown about another maniac in Scotlands prison system who recently did the same thing and got himself placed into a Women's prison where he has been causing havoc, again Sturgeon acquiesced to the move in order to reinforce her barmy transgender itinerary.
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If you post links sprot I can maybe work out what is true and what is rot.
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If you post links sprot I can maybe work out what is true and what is rot.
Just Google Nichols Sturgeon news you will get about 8 very recent articles
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If you post links sprot I can maybe work out what is true and what is rot.
Just Google Nichols Sturgeon news you will get about 8 very recent articles
Easy enough to find sproty, if people are prepared to have a look themselves.
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If you post links sprot I can maybe work out what is true and what is rot.
Just Google Nichols Sturgeon news you will get about 8 very recent articles
I did that and all it brought up were stories about Nicola Sturgeon
So who and what has Nichols Sturgeon been involved in?
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When I Google Nicola Sturgeon it’s all stories related to the original post. Interesting.
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verbatim? nc
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https://twitter.com/peteradamsmith/status/1620051699900755970?s=46&t=urT2hW4COG8xmpmzTPdqJA
My head hurts
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Surely you're not complaining about someone else's view nc?
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She was certainly suttering on the interview I saw to put it nicely
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So the Bellies are starting to show in the jit Jock female prison, Sturgeon jumping ship to prevent the SNP suffering too much damage, when the wee Bairns start popping out!
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The resignation of this very divisive character could be very good news for Starmer and Labour.
If they get select another constant mouthpiece like her then the rabid Scottish left electorate may on mass jump ship, Labour would be their only compatible home.
If they get smart and promote a conciliatory. figure then all bets are back on with the SNP adding all their weight to a left/centre left government at the next election.
Starmer must be out right now buying his lotto ticket.
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The issues she created or supported will not be able to be swept under the SNP's Tartan Carpet, her legacy is pathetic, Labour needs to take advantage and get some seats back.
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She has done the honourable thing, one of her main policies has failed and would seem to be beyond resurrection in her political lifetime.
Other failed leaders should take note.
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On the subject of failed leaders, I see that Corbyn is saying he wants to stand as an MP when Starmer says he can’t.
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As a Labour MP or just as an Independant?
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As a Labour MP.
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The SNP have claimed to have their finger on the pulse of Scottish opinion for decades.
Looks like that may be slipping. Here's a recent poll on what Scottish people think are important political issues, and what they think the SNP Govt prioritises.
(https://www.holyrood.com/ugc-1/1/3/0/polling_web.jpg)
The SNP have been phenomenally lucky for 15 years. They've had a spectacularly bad Tory Govt in Westminster to contrast themselves against.
They had the massive good luck to lose the 2014 Independence referendum just before the price of oil collapsed, which would have destroyed the economy of an independent Scotland.
They've had the best political communicator of the generation in Sturgeon.
I wonder if we're going to see their support slip away now?
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The ex deputy leader of SNP was quite scathing of her 6 year "celebrity leader" tenure. Independence but no policy to back it up
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Right. So THIS is why she's resigned.
https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1626559514345410560
Game changer if the SNP loses its grip on Scotland.
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Right. So THIS is why she's resigned.
https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1626559514345410560
Game changer if the SNP loses its grip on Scotland.
Why has she become less popular in Scotland? Is it in relation to the OP?
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What's coming out in the next 6 months would have destroyed her and the SNP, I think she has stepped down to limit the damage to the SNP, and we all know that in Politics time is a great healer, in 2/3 years she will be able to make a comeback and carry on being a Pest!
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Right. So THIS is why she's resigned.
https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenWntr/status/1626559514345410560
Game changer if the SNP loses its grip on Scotland.
Why has she become less popular in Scotland? Is it in relation to the OP?
I suspect it's the SNP insistence on Independence Uber Alles, when the Scottish people are more concerned with their economic troubles and the state of their schools.
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As the ex deputy leader says, when I stand on the doorstep and the old lady says how will you pay my pension? I can't answer her and when she asks what currency will it be, I can't answer her
Independance with no policy.
And when the fishwoman was in trouble in Scotland a friendly journalist or TV South of the border would give her a friendly platform with an easy ride!
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Well the race to replace Sturgeon is going well.
The favourite has been asked on the radio this morning "Do you believe that gay sex is a sin?" Given that it is 2023, you might have expected her to say, "No of course I don't, what a ridiculous question!"
Nope.
She said "The Bible tells us that sin is universal."
Aye, good luck wi tha.
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And now she says having kids outside marriage is wrong.
For the record, I've no problem with her holding these views. But they hardly chime with the idea of the SNP being a modern, progressive party. She's perfectly at liberty to hold those views. I just think she'll find people are perfectly at liberty not to vote for her.
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Sounds very much like the same situation that occurred with the ex Liberal leader Tim Farron., who due to strong held beliefs could not bring himself to rein in his views even though they were the kiss of death for his leadership.
Should she be praised for being honest for standing up for her faith and beliefs or should she be castigated for being alive a century too late?
We all say we want honesty and truth from politicians, when they do we cast them aside, roll on the next chancer to become a party leader.
For the record, because its quite important to some on here, her views are hers alone, nothing to do with me.
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I don't think she should be either praised or castigated.
I think voters should consider whether they agree with her views overall, and vote accordingly.
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But that's my point, she may be a very good MSP but if you were to listen to msm all you would know about someone like her is her "strong beliefs" so in effect the majority of voters would never get to actually know what she stood for in a political sense.
Its a bit like a discussion that occurred on the main board about previous Rovers players, most agreed that they did not give two hoots about the individual players morals , as long as he was a good player, could score goals, defend properly, ect, and as your well aware we have had just about every kind of deviant known to man play for us.
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I agree that all voters should be able to vote for whoever they like without being praised or castigated.
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This is interesting. I wonder if there would be a similar discussion from the media if there was an orthodox Muslim or Jew going for the job of leader. Would the media question them in the same way or would it be too sensitive a topic for them to raise?
But then I guess we’d see push back some certain far-right/far-left factions.
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Why hypothesise about this?
Hamza Yusuf is a practicing Muslim. He voted for legalising gay marriage in the Scottish Parliament vote.
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Why hypothesise about this?
Hamza Yusuf is a practicing Muslim. He voted for legalising gay marriage in the Scottish Parliament vote.
I know, some religious people have more traditional / outdated views than others. I just wondered if Forbes’ views but coming from a different religious background would have the same reaction.
I’m not trying to make a point or anything don’t worry, was just a curious thought after the discussion on the other thread.
Like you said people free to vote and decide. All good.
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Maybe you've nailed a problem right there regarding open discussion about religion that people have been cowed into tippy toeing around it and that has allowed some involved in religion to totally corrupt it.
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It's nice to see that the SNP is tolerant of all views on life,if this lady has a biblical view so what!
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Why hypothesise about this?
Hamza Yusuf is a practicing Muslim. He voted for legalising gay marriage in the Scottish Parliament vote.
I know, some religious people have more traditional / outdated views than others. I just wondered if Forbes’ views but coming from a different religious background would have the same reaction.
I’m not trying to make a point or anything don’t worry, was just a curious thought after the discussion on the other thread.
Like you said people free to vote and decide. All good.
You were right to raise it.
The point being, is Hamza Yusuf more concerned about advancing his political career than him being a good practising Muslim?
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It's literally impossible to argue with that approach DD
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Thank goodness for that. Hallelujah.
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Shouldn't it be in a democracy that we take all of the views and actually she should be entitled to say any of that but she'd never be able to reverse it as she's in a minority.
But shouldn't religious people of all types be entitled to have a view and representation?
I'm sure we all have opinions on gay marriage etc. Some will be much more liberal in view on that than others.
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Yes BFYP.
And her party has the right to decide if they want someone with her views as their leader.
It works both ways.
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Shouldn't it be in a democracy that we take all of the views and actually she should be entitled to say any of that but she'd never be able to reverse it as she's in a minority.
But shouldn't religious people of all types be entitled to have a view and representation?
I'm sure we all have opinions on gay marriage etc. Some will be much more liberal in view on that than others.
Correct, and all people should be able to express their views on religion
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This gets to the heart of my issue with people bleating about being taken to task for their religious views.
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1628688409433714690
What Tim Farron is saying here is "You are being intolerant for criticising my religious beliefs, which require me to be intolerant of other people's nature. "
And he doesn't even seem to realise what he is saying.
Forbes's religious beliefs would lead her to brand two people's love for each other as sinful, and prevent them from sharing the benefits of a legally sanctioned union. And Farron here has the lack of self awareness to complain about people hold her to task for that.
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Some very well reasoned logic to many of the points made in that link.
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And then there's the quite spectacular arrogance in the opinion that human rights are only secured by the existence of God.
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And then there's the quite spectacular arrogance in the opinion that human rights are only secured by the existence of God.
Shouldn't it be in a democracy that we take all of the views and actually she should be entitled to say any of that but she'd never be able to reverse it as she's in a minority.
But shouldn't religious people of all types be entitled to have a view and representation?
I'm sure we all have opinions on gay marriage etc. Some will be much more liberal in view on that than others.
Correct, and all people should be able to express their views on religion
Mmmmm.
Contrasting opinions?
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And then there's the quite spectacular arrogance in the opinion that human rights are only secured by the existence of God.
That’s easy for anyone to say now. But perhaps humans organised in to religions for a reason. And we don’t know if we’d be living in the ‘best time to be alive’ (like now) if they hadn’t.
From an Agnostic.
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Farron is talking about now.
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Farron is talking about now.
I meant easy to say that it’s arrogant, but I guess that can apply to Farron too. We don’t know either way and we never can.
If you could remove religion at the click of a finger, we couldn’t predict what the world would end up looking like.
I think it’s human nature to organise the mind and society (big or small) in such a way*, you can see that in archaeological findings. I think that religions maybe better and worse would gradually come about naturally in this hypothetical future. Especially in a future that has descended in to chaos.
*For example highly intelligent people now can stick to their political ideology with a heavy bias regardless of evidence to the contrary and lead others in to following them.
But this is just my philosophical rambling anyway.
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And then there's the quite spectacular arrogance in the opinion that human rights are only secured by the existence of God.
Here he is, doubling down.
https://twitter.com/timfarron/status/1628778336053764097?s=20
"No God = No Human Rights"
I think what he's trying to say is that a belief in God gives a constant moral framework, whereas if it's only mere humans that define "human rights" they can change them as different ages and societies see fit.
In which case, he's even more f**king stupid than I gave him credit for. "God" told mankind in previous era's to publicly execute women who had extramarital sex. So much for eternal human rights.
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Good to see people dont have a problem with a country being run by a religious fundamentalist.
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Yes BFYP.
And her party has the right to decide if they want someone with her views as their leader.
It works both ways.
Absolutely.
Shouldn't it be in a democracy that we take all of the views and actually she should be entitled to say any of that but she'd never be able to reverse it as she's in a minority.
But shouldn't religious people of all types be entitled to have a view and representation?
I'm sure we all have opinions on gay marriage etc. Some will be much more liberal in view on that than others.
Correct, and all people should be able to express their views on religion
To a point, there is a line.
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Without wishing to get into an endless debate pud, can you explain about the 'line' and what you mean?
I've already been abused by someone of faith or religion, which apparently depends on his view at the time presumably because I don't agree with him.
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Just a bit of common sense isn't it? There's a big difference between having a different view on something and expressing that politely than calling someone outright wrong for their religious view, just the same as most things really. Ultimately I don't necessarily agree that people have to accept in their own mind every change in the modern world, be that differing relationships, choices of gender etc. But at the same point I don't think they should explicitly cause issues for those of that persuasion and you could say this about billions of things from relationship choices through to watching love island.
I do in a number of cases also think we bend too far for religious things in walks of life. Should we have to allow employees time to pray 8 times a day? Not in my view but the law would say otherwise. Don't get me started on smoking breaks!
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That's the point isn't it? religion is not common sense. You forgot to talk about the line, where is it at the end of european religion, middle east religion, asian religion? You ask anyone that puts up non-scientific theories and they get short shrift on here. This goes back to what I referred to before, people have been cowed into not challenging it, where any other non-scientific topic is. Now about that line please.
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BFYP
With respect, I think you're missing the point here.
We are talking about 2 politicians who have voted, or would vote to restrict the freedoms of other people, based on the reasoning that a 2000 year old book told them that the people in question are sinful. And THEN they complain of intolerance when people question whether that approach means they are unsuitable for high office.
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BFYP
With respect, I think you're missing the point here.
We are talking about 2 politicians who have voted, or would vote to restrict the freedoms of other people, based on the reasoning that a 2000 year old book told them that the people in question are sinful. And THEN they complain of intolerance when people question whether that approach means they are unsuitable for high office.
So they aren't entitled to their belief? You're essentially saying we should ignore religion because it doesn't fit with what some perceive as their take on how the modern world should be.
Is it not right that both trains of thought could be valid?
That's the point isn't it? religion is not common sense. You forgot to talk about the line, where is it at the end of european religion, middle east religion, asian religion? You ask anyone that puts up non-scientific theories and they get short shrift on here. This goes back to what I referred to before, people have been cowed into not challenging it, where any other non-scientific topic is. Now about that line please.
In your opinion. I suspect it isn't worth debate as you appear to be quite intolerant of anyone who has a religious belief.
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That's the easy way out pud, tell me I'm intolerant so you don't have to think about it. If you don't wish to discuss it on a rational level it's your call.
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I'm not quite sure what I have to think about, my personal beliefs are frankly just that and I have no desire to either debate or be questioned around my personal or religious beliefs frankly nor question those of others as long as they're not killing anyone or forcing it upon others.
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Didn't you enter this conversation because of your personal beliefs?
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I'm not quite sure what I have to think about, my personal beliefs are frankly just that and I have no desire to either debate or be questioned around my personal or religious beliefs frankly nor question those of others as long as they're not killing anyone or forcing it upon others.
If your views are well known and then you become the leader of a political party - are you 'forcing your views on others' if you change the law to match your views?
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BFYP
Yes, of course they are entitled to their beliefs.
But, if those beliefs include a fundamental intolerance towards people whose lifestyle they deem sinful, and justify that by saying it's what someone wrote 2000 years ago, what they absolutely do NOT have is the right to complain that other people are being intolerant by criticising them.
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I'm not quite sure what I have to think about, my personal beliefs are frankly just that and I have no desire to either debate or be questioned around my personal or religious beliefs frankly nor question those of others as long as they're not killing anyone or forcing it upon others.
If your views are well known and then you become the leader of a political party - are you 'forcing your views on others' if you change the law to match your views?
Yes, but nobody has proposed that have they?
I thought this was a good article this morning;
https://news.sky.com/story/why-straight-talking-kate-forbes-could-open-up-a-future-for-tired-snp-12818466
BFYP
Yes, of course they are entitled to their beliefs.
But, if those beliefs include a fundamental intolerance towards people whose lifestyle they deem sinful, and justify that by saying it's what someone wrote 2000 years ago, what they absolutely do NOT have is the right to complain that other people are being intolerant by criticising them.
I think you're twisting the answers she said to questions she was asked a little bit somewhat there. She doesn't appear intolerable to others, she'd have voted against it but respects that others did vote for it. I'm not sure asking someone a question, them answering it then slating them is quite right. On the same vein she should have refused to answer it and said it's irrelevant, quite naive and showing a lack of experience IMO.
Overall I feel this sentence sums it up quite well;
"it throws an unforgiving spotlight on the stresses and contradictions in the British political culture in which people who claim to be liberal and progressive are nonetheless eager to "cancel" those with divergent opinions."
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BFYP
I'm not twisting anything. She, as an elected politician, would have voted to deny gay people the right to have their relationship recognised by law. When asked if she thinks homosexuality is sinful, she COULD have replied, "No, and in any case that has no bearing on how I would vote on that issue. The reason I would vote against it is X"
Instead she said "The Bible tells us that sin is universal." Which is a bizarre way of putting it. But since she wold presumably not vote against heterosexual marriage, I think it translates as "Yes".
I don't know how you can interpret that other than a lack of tolerance of the rights of gay people, guided by her religion.
And as I say, she has every right to hold that view. What she doesn't have is some magical protection against criticism for holding that view. She and Farron want it both ways. To be given the space for their intolerance, but to be immune from criticism because the intolerance is informed by their religious views.
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This, from a married gay colleague of Forbes's says it far better than I could.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MhairiBlack/status/1629125518007189504
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I'm still not sure why the debate has become so polarised about this, like others have said, she's demonstrated he views and opinions on certain religious issues and called it like she sees it, no one is captive to her view, you either agree or disagree with her, and she stands or falls on this, she respects others have a totally contrary view to her and she has stated that she will go with the majority be it in a vote for her or her party's view.
The fact that we may not agree with anything she stands for is baked in, like with any other individual who seeks high office, she stands on her convictions and she may also fall just the same.
Our so called liberal tolerant society should be mature enough to deal with her or any other individual who holds views contrary to the majority, it doesn't make them right or wrong.
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I'm still not sure why the debate has become so polarised about this, like others have said, she's demonstrated he views and opinions on certain religious issues and called it like she sees it, no one is captive to her view, you either agree or disagree with her, and she stands or falls on this, she respects others have a totally contrary view to her and she has stated that she will go with the majority be it in a vote for her or her party's view.
The fact that we may not agree with anything she stands for is baked in, like with any other individual who seeks high office, she stands on her convictions and she may also fall just the same.
Our so called liberal tolerant society should be mature enough to deal with her or any other individual who holds views contrary to the majority, it doesn't make them right or wrong.
All part of the culture war, DD, and what the "enlightened ones" think. You know, the ones that think only they can put the world to rights.
Keith needs to keep his eye on all this, especially where floating voters are concerned.
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There are very few votes in the abolition of gay rights. And I would reckon they would all be taken - I doubt Starmer has anything to worry about. The next leader of the SNP might tho:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
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Well that didn’t take too long did it? Obviously hoping that when the Baby Pooh hits the fan Sturgeon will be able to disassociate herself from debacle!
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Looking at her closing swansong in Parliament today all of her detractors comments about, Drug deaths, alcoholic deaths, lack of Doctors and Nurses and the appalling decline in education standards,
She put the blame on the Tories!
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Maybe she should join the VSC forum then.
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Too many foreign twits on here already!
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Well, this has thrown a light on the SNP.
They've spent 40 years trying to convince Scots that the party is as left wing as the people of Scotland.
But 48% of members have just voted for a potential leader who is as far to the right as Thatcher was 40 years ago.
And the SNP is currently being investigated by the police over £600k of missing political donations.
They've seemed unbeatable for a decade. Are they now in the process of falling apart?
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'Sturgeon's husband arrested in SNP finance probe'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65187823
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'Sturgeon's husband arrested in SNP finance probe'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65187823
Could this be the reason for the abrupt departure of NS....?
It could set the SNP back years if there is anything to it.... time will tell.
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No doubt Sturgeon will have no recollection whatsoever with how hubby has dealt with the finances.
Only a matter of time now before the Scots realise what this poison dwarf and her hubby have been up to.
Massive boost for the Scottish Labour party? could have consequences at the next general election in that Labour do not require the support of this reprehensible mob to enable unfettered control?
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I'm not convinced it will make a difference.
The SNP has repeatedly and deliberately lied to the Scottish people about the effect of independence on everything from keeping the Pound to who will pay their pensions.
As with Brexit, there are so many people so emotionally committed to the principle of Scottish Independence, they are impervious to fact. I'm sure many of them will rationalise this problem away.
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We've just spent a few days up there and went to a few different places, nothing scientific but the people who i spoke to seemed to be hinting on something of a sea change in the attitudes towards the SNP leadership, past and present and the negative outcomes it would have for independence.There performance in just running devolved competencies is already a big issue for them.
We all know that there will always be a strong percentage who will not be moved but a week is a long time in politics as they say.
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What a shame that the SNP are being exposed as the bunch of con artists with money as well as political policies.
If a party will not be honest with voters over how pensions are paid for, or what the effect of independence would be on the country's finances, why should we be surprised if half a million quid in donations goes walkies?
The fact that the Treasurer who's been arrested today looks like a pre- bollock descended Phil Mitchell doesn't help their case either.
I wonder how Cold War Steve will handle it?
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By chance I came across this Obituary from November 21st 2016 (as you do!!)
from The Daily Telegraph
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th May 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Thought she’d been arrested to day 11th June, might be wrong though
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th May 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Thought she’d been arrested to day 11th June, might be wrong though
Sorry my Bad!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65873423?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
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Innocent till proven guilty of course.
But the ongoing nature of this saga must be contributing to the damage being done to the SNP's polling and to a lesser extent to the independence movement.
Especially seeing as they appointed a Sturgeon continuity candidate and close ally as leader.
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The SNP had 48 seats at the last GE. With what's going off just now, I would imagine Labour must have a chance of taking a huge chunk of those seats next year.
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
Lot of assuming there sproty.
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
Lot of assuming there sproty.
Yes and she was in Custody for 7 hours 15 minutes, so she has been interviewed for at least 5 of those hours, and after 6 hours she would have had her further detention reviewed by a Senior Police officer who would have had to justify her further detention probably to secure further evidence by means of interview. She is now release under investigation, so at some point she will be formally invited back into Custody or formally informed that she is no longer under investigation, but I doubt that will happen as the Scottish Police have has plenty of time to work out an arrest and interview strategy, they is no smoke without fire!
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
Lot of assuming there sproty.
Especially the 'locked up' bit. Some people have a weird idea of what arrest actually means.
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
Lot of assuming there sproty.
Especially the 'locked up' bit. Some people have a weird idea of what arrest actually means.
Technically she was arrested because she was not at liberty to walk away until the police decided she could.
So you could call it locked up if you wished because she wasn't "free" to do anything else.
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Nicola Sturgeon has been arrested today 11th June 2023’ and is being questioned re the SNP party finances,there must be some damming evidence for her to be physically arrested and booked into Custody!
Released without charge. You sure about that 'damming evidence'?
https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1667947057250705408
There are some interesting jibes on her Twitter post! I assume the Scottish Police arrested her to be able to seize, her mobile and search her house for further evidence,and for your info Wilts there must be something very damming for the Police to lock up an ex First minister!
Lot of assuming there sproty.
Especially the 'locked up' bit. Some people have a weird idea of what arrest actually means.
Technically she was arrested because she was not at liberty to walk away until the police decided she could.
So you could call it locked up if you wished because she wasn't "free" to do anything else.
My colleagues and I had the power to arrest people and we had no need for any facilities to lock anybody up.
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She would have been booked in at the Custody desk and the Custody Sgt would have had to decide her detention was lawful then she would have been given her rights and that would involve getting a Solicitor, if the Solicitor was not there by prior agreement she would have been put into a cell and locked up whilst the Police awaited her Solicitor
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Does anyone know if she was put in a cell for males or females?
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Does anyone know if she was put in a cell for males or females?
A cell is a cell. They don’t put in curtains & a vase of flowers.
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Looks like Yousaf is coming under massive pressure to suspend Sturgeon from the party whilst the investigation is still live, The fact that he's managing to make such a dogs dinner of what should be a straightforward part of party administration and management because of his constant dithering is making this joker a proper laughing stock in Scotland and also achieving the total destruction of the SNP's aims of election winning and being granted another independence vote.
That the SNP decided to go for the Sturgeon continuity candidate makes their leader election process look like the Vicar of Dibley was their blueprint.
Unbelievably naive and unprofessional behaviour from this extreme party of the left who leave the Jocks trailing the rest of the Uk in just about every measurable metric.
Will the electorate take the hint?
Are Labour physically weeing their pants in glee over this aberration from the Nats?
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You could be talking about the current batch of Tories currently ruining…….I mean running the country.
No I was right…..ruining.