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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: scawsby steve on February 18, 2023, 05:05:07 pm
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IMO this has now become a must win game if we're to make the play-offs.
A defeat or a draw next week would leave us with too much catch-up to make, and I just don't think our squad has the physical or mental ability to do it.
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There’s 14 games left,
Plenty of time whatever happens next week
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
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We don’t do well in big games at home. ESP when the away team have the proverbial 12 th man.
Happy to be proved wrong.
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We aren’t good enough, we had chances today but our attacking players aren’t good enough and I’ve zero idea why we signed Todd Miller
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We don’t do well in big games at home. ESP when the away team have the proverbial 12 th man.
Happy to be proved wrong.
You are right 4000 away fans v 200 brain dead 12 year olds singing about Harry Maguire. Having said that probably more intelligent than George Miller.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
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Bradford got beat by Barrow today.
As an opposition we’re more suited to beat Bradford than Sutton.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
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On another day we don't lose today's match.
On another day we don't beat Barrow last Tuesday.
That's kind of the point. We are ok but not brilliant. That's why the likelihood is that we'll miss out on the playoffs by 2-4 points.
Note that I said "likelihood" not "certainty" before anyone wades in.
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I thnk that's the most realistic expectation.
Also hoping for automatic next season.
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When ever we dominate the ball and have more possession the majority of the time we end up losing. Our past 3 wins we had less possession than our opponents. The defeats before then we dominated the ball. Today we had 65% of the ball so no surprise we lost.
On Saturday Bradford will have the majority of possession which will suit us.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
today was as good as Swindon for 30 mins, we missed one sitter apart from that there keeper never had a save to make really
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
today was as good as Swindon for 30 mins, we missed one sitter apart from that there keeper never had a save to make really
We had two sitters today.
Against Swindon we were no better than today we just took our chances
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
Likewise, no team always scores, we need to be keeping clean sheets.
The fact of the matter is, we've been poor in both penalty areas most of the season. That's why we most likely won't be promoted.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
You keep banging that "we are good enough" drum mate. Fair play.
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We don’t do well in big games at home. ESP when the away team have the proverbial 12 th man.
Happy to be proved wrong.
You are right 4000 away fans v 200 brain dead 12 year olds singing about Harry Maguire. Having said that probably more intelligent than George Miller.
What is that Harry MCGuire thing anyway Padge?
I have never been able to tell what the kids are singing.
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Could be wrong, but think it might be because a steward looks like Harry maguire .
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The team spirit and camaraderie within the group is getting stronger, you can tell that. I don’t think we’ve had that for 2 years.
Sorry to say it but, add a better striker to this XI and it would be a promotion team.
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We don’t do well in big games at home. ESP when the away team have the proverbial 12 th man.
Happy to be proved wrong.
You are right 4000 away fans v 200 brain dead 12 year olds singing about Harry Maguire. Having said that probably more intelligent than George Miller.
What is your issue with George Miller. Yes he isn't banging goals in right now but when he puts on the shirt he looks like he gives a damn.
But you still feel the need to have a personal attack about his intelligence.
With fans like you I don't know why he bothers trying. If he does get dropped who would be the next victim
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
that Lincoln game was the lockdown season. Id guess at it being the 19/20 season against Rotherscum (Copps scored and ran towards their fans and then whiteman completed the turnaround with a late penalty).
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
But we're not, because the players aren't good enough. That's why, in my opinion, we won't make the play offs. The approach play is getting better, but we looked nowhere near like a team that are chasing a play off place yesterday. Our soft touch mentality came shining through again yesterday, against a poor side that had little to do to beat us.
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The team spirit and camaraderie within the group is getting stronger, you can tell that. I don’t think we’ve had that for 2 years.
Sorry to say it but, add a better striker to this XI and it would be a promotion team.
Said this yesterday, for all Miller's hard work he just gets battered by Big defenders every game, when the balls played up to him we more often than not concede possession. I believe a player like Marquis would fit perfect into our team. Wouldn't get bullied & probably win plenty of free kicks.
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George Miller is a good player if he gets the right service. He missed an opportunity to score, that he should have put away, all strikers miss chances. If we can consistently make chances like that for him, he will be scoring regularly again.
The team as a whole didn’t do enough to win the game. Not enough pressure put on the opposition goal, not enough shots on target. Sutton were efficient with the chances they got. Onto Bradford, a reaction is needed with that a win.
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Its the sitters that he's missing that's concerning. Its not like 1 on 1s keeper saving. The Mansfield game he practically missed an open goal too. He's better when he has no time to think and whacks it as basic as that.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
But we're not, because the players aren't good enough. That's why, in my opinion, we won't make the play offs. The approach play is getting better, but we looked nowhere near like a team that are chasing a play off place yesterday. Our soft touch mentality came shining through again yesterday, against a poor side that had little to do to beat us.
They’re not a poor side though, we made them look poor but their home form confirms they aren’t a poor side
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George Miller is a good player if he gets the right service. He missed an opportunity to score, that he should have put away, all strikers miss chances. If we can consistently make chances like that for him, he will be scoring regularly again.
The team as a whole didn’t do enough to win the game. Not enough pressure put on the opposition goal, not enough shots on target. Sutton were efficient with the chances they got. Onto Bradford, a reaction is needed with that a win.
But if a striker is more effective, the creative players have more options in their play. Not everything can be on a silver plate for them.
He presses and works hard. But on the ball, what type of striker is he?
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For example, if he could beat a defender in the air or have a better first touch he could bring Hurst and Molyneux in to play and our attacks can be more open and free flowing. Thus leading to more goal scoring opportunities.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
But we're not, because the players aren't good enough. That's why, in my opinion, we won't make the play offs. The approach play is getting better, but we looked nowhere near like a team that are chasing a play off place yesterday. Our soft touch mentality came shining through again yesterday, against a poor side that had little to do to beat us.
They’re not a poor side though, we made them look poor but their home form confirms they aren’t a poor side
No they are not a poor side.
They are not a great footballing side but they are well organised, physically strong and a difficult team to beat.
Their home record is W10 D3 L3 after yesterday. That’s suggests they are no mugs.
We played well yesterday but lost. If we had won that game which we could quite easily have done then virtually everyone on this forum would have been saying it was one of our best performances this season.
Score first and we would probably have won imo. It’s fine margins.
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I'll stick to they are a poor side, in fact one of the worst I've seen in a very poor league, we handed them victory through poor finishing & players not being consistent for 90 minutes.
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Whether they are a poor side or not, they'll take points off other teams before the end of the season.
Deary me. Looks like the Netto mob are planning another protest for the Bradford game! They seem determined to embarrass themselves on a big stage.
Let's just hope the game goes our way and we keep the Bradford fans relatively quiet and we hear more positive chants!
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
But we're not, because the players aren't good enough. That's why, in my opinion, we won't make the play offs. The approach play is getting better, but we looked nowhere near like a team that are chasing a play off place yesterday. Our soft touch mentality came shining through again yesterday, against a poor side that had little to do to beat us.
I think this sums it up.
We are unquestionably able to play attractive, incisive football. But all season we have struggled against big, strong sides. The lack of physicality in the squad is astonishing. At this level, unless you are a very good footballing side (and we aren't "very" good) you need the option of being able to slug it out. Yesterday was a perfect case in point. Second half in particular we simply lost the physical battles.
I can see what Schofield is trying to do and I have some confidence it will come good. But it doesn't feel like it's right just yet. P
I really can't agree that Sutton are a poor side though. That's a very condescending judgement. They aren't easy on the eye but they have a system and if you can't match them physically, you're going to have to be VERY good to beat them on their patch.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
that Lincoln game was the lockdown season. Id guess at it being the 19/20 season against Rotherscum (Copps scored and ran towards their fans and then whiteman completed the turnaround with a late penalty).
Great stats memory there, Bailey. Also, in the previous home game, I believe we beat Lincoln 2-1 in front of a full North Stand, with a late winner from Jonny Taylor; (that's a collector's item).
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
that Lincoln game was the lockdown season. Id guess at it being the 19/20 season against Rotherscum (Copps scored and ran towards their fans and then whiteman completed the turnaround with a late penalty).
Great stats memory there, Bailey. Also, in the previous home game, I believe we beat Lincoln 2-1 in front of a full North Stand, with a late winner from Jonny Taylor; (that's a collector's item).
yes, lawlor got an assist for the first goal, was it Ennis who scored?
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I said my memory was crap.
It had been a long time though since rovers won at home in a big match attendance wise.
We are overdue one.
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
that Lincoln game was the lockdown season. Id guess at it being the 19/20 season against Rotherscum (Copps scored and ran towards their fans and then whiteman completed the turnaround with a late penalty).
Great stats memory there, Bailey. Also, in the previous home game, I believe we beat Lincoln 2-1 in front of a full North Stand, with a late winner from Jonny Taylor; (that's a collector's item).
yes, lawlor got an assist for the first goal, was it Ennis who scored?
Yes, mate; an absolute screamer from Ennis with his left foot. I'm now realising just how good Ennis is.
He's certainly helped Plymouth to the top of League 1, along with another former Rover, Connor Grant.
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If they play Clayton,I hope our midfield pounce on him like Barrow did yesterday for their goal - he was made to look very, very slow and got caught in possession once too often ( again ! )
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Aren't we great at being defeatist. Stay at home if you fear losing.
There's plenty of games when the away end was full to the brim and we've won. As glass half empty folk we seem to recall the games we've lost!!
On the other hand we could all try and rouse the troops and get some friends and family down to get behind the team!
My memory is crap at the best of times.
When was the last time rovers won in front of a full north stand at the km. ?
Serious question.
You have access to the same info as me.
It hasn’t happened this season.
Or last season for that matter.
And in the 20/21 season it would have been the Lincoln game. October 2020. 1-0. I think this was the last time rovers won at home in front of a full away allocation. I think.
that Lincoln game was the lockdown season. Id guess at it being the 19/20 season against Rotherscum (Copps scored and ran towards their fans and then whiteman completed the turnaround with a late penalty).
Great stats memory there, Bailey. Also, in the previous home game, I believe we beat Lincoln 2-1 in front of a full North Stand, with a late winner from Jonny Taylor; (that's a collector's item).
yes, lawlor got an assist for the first goal, was it Ennis who scored?
Yes, mate; an absolute screamer from Ennis with his left foot. I'm now realising just how good Ennis is.
He's certainly helped Plymouth to the top of League 1, along with another former Rover, Connor Grant.
yes very quick and strong for a not so big lad, his hold up play was very good. Plymouth also have jordan houghton, rated him highly during his time with us.
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Don’t know whether any of it is related to injuries at all but only Houghton has really been a regular this season, and he’s only played two thirds of the time. Grant has only made 7 sub appearances, the last on in October.
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Its the sitters that he's missing that's concerning. Its not like 1 on 1s keeper saving. The Mansfield game he practically missed an open goal too. He's better when he has no time to think and whacks it as basic as that.
what the one keeper saved lol
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Hold the apology and eating the hat
Go for £10 quid to Turkish Quake Disaster Fund instead. They will still need the money
I'm sure your Tenner will be safe but tbf I will add a Tenner of my own if you are up for it ?
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Bradford are a big, strong, hard to beat side. Nothing special but you have to work hard to beat them. We need to be going for the win from the start. Getting shots off, looking to take players on and defending properly.
They won’t give us anything. Get George Miller some proper service.
Get Hurst and Molyneux running at defenders. Anywhere round the edge of the box, have a go, hit the target.
We can win the game, we have the more talented players, they have the more resilient side.
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Gonna be a decent crowd 11or 12k I think
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Gonna be a decent crowd 11or 12k I think
there won’t be 7 or 8 thousand rovers fans ,more likely about 9,500
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Ticket office said only 2000 home tickets left on sale
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Ticket office said only 2000 home tickets left on sale
3500 available on the online ticketing system.
Not sure what the capacity is these days minus segregation and with the seats taken out for the big screen, but let's say it's 14000. Take out Bradford's 4000 sales and the 3500 left on sale and you get to about 10500 (6500 Rovers and 4000 Bradford).
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George Miller is a good player if he gets the right service. He missed an opportunity to score, that he should have put away, all strikers miss chances. If we can consistently make chances like that for him, he will be scoring regularly again.
The team as a whole didn’t do enough to win the game. Not enough pressure put on the opposition goal, not enough shots on target. Sutton were efficient with the chances they got. Onto Bradford, a reaction is needed with that a win.
No argument here, we just don't play to his strengths.
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My personal opinion is that if you think we have the group to make the playoffs i feel you are all delusional. Im telling you all now that there isnt a hope in hell. If we do i will eat my hat and apologise to all. Absolute sh!te.
Well we win our game in hand and we will be on the same points so not sure how it’s delusional.
We’re playing much better now, today was as good a performance as Swindon but we missed our chances
We kept a clean sheet at Swindon. Big difference.
No team never concedes a goal, we need to be taking our chances
But we're not, because the players aren't good enough. That's why, in my opinion, we won't make the play offs. The approach play is getting better, but we looked nowhere near like a team that are chasing a play off place yesterday. Our soft touch mentality came shining through again yesterday, against a poor side that had little to do to beat us.
I think this sums it up.
We are unquestionably able to play attractive, incisive football. But all season we have struggled against big, strong sides. The lack of physicality in the squad is astonishing. At this level, unless you are a very good footballing side (and we aren't "very" good) you need the option of being able to slug it out. Yesterday was a perfect case in point. Second half in particular we simply lost the physical battles.
I can see what Schofield is trying to do and I have some confidence it will come good. But it doesn't feel like it's right just yet. P
I really can't agree that Sutton are a poor side though. That's a very condescending judgement. They aren't easy on the eye but they have a system and if you can't match them physically, you're going to have to be VERY good to beat them on their patch.
we haven't had any for years
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Ticket office said only 2000 home tickets left on sale
3500 available on the online ticketing system.
Not sure what the capacity is these days minus segregation and with the seats taken out for the big screen, but let's say it's 14000. Take out Bradford's 4000 sales and the 3500 left on sale and you get to about 10500 (6500 Rovers and 4000 Bradford).
Hopefully the club don’t mess up like they did against Wednesday last season and have a bulk of their fans in the home end.
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Have we even had a match with over 7k home fans this season? Mansfield game maybe?
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Hopefully the lads put on a great performance and win to keep a few fans coming back
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Have we even had a match with over 7k home fans this season? Mansfield game maybe?
3. Mansfield, Carlisle & Hartlepool
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Maybe officially 7000 but not in reality.
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I think the club always counts sth. Whether they attend or not.
There will be a lot of floating supporters attend this game no doubt. A win will help in getting them to come back. Fingers crossed.
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Whether they are a poor side or not, they'll take points off other teams before the end of the season.
Deary me. Looks like the Netto mob are planning another protest for the Bradford game! They seem determined to embarrass themselves on a big stage.
Let's just hope the game goes our way and we keep the Bradford fans relatively quiet and we hear more positive chants!
Oh dear I’ve not seen anything about that, I’m nearly embarrassed for them but then again we did lose the last game so no surprise
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Whether they are a poor side or not, they'll take points off other teams before the end of the season.
Deary me. Looks like the Netto mob are planning another protest for the Bradford game! They seem determined to embarrass themselves on a big stage.
Let's just hope the game goes our way and we keep the Bradford fans relatively quiet and we hear more positive chants!
Oh dear I’ve not seen anything about that, I’m nearly embarrassed for them but then again we did lose the last game so no surprise
The Netto mob would be better off outside the local Netto. Best place for em.
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They have a right to protest, but I don’t think it helps the team in such a big game.
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They have a right to protest, but I don’t think it helps the team in such a big game.
They don't actually. The new Policing Act gives the police the ability to ban a protest from happening if it is likely to be noisy or creating harrassment of an individual or organisation.
Which, like it or not, is exactly what they are planning. A noisy protest against the club/board.
https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_information/pcsc-policing-act-protest-rights/
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Deary me. Looks like the Netto mob are planning another protest for the Bradford game! They seem determined to embarrass themselves on a big stage.
Let's just hope the game goes our way and we keep the Bradford fans relatively quiet and we hear more positive chants!
Oh good.... I enjoy a good laugh and some 'organised' pre match entertainment.
Will it be like a student protest whereby their chants start with "What do we want................... when do we want it....." etc etc, and are they planning to wave mis-spelt banners written on cardboard?
When and where does the 'event' get started and how many spotted oiks are we talking about?
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Case stands rested. Dont score enough, concede too many. Improvement but still awful.