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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Bailey Vickerage on February 28, 2023, 06:00:40 pm
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New 2 and half year deal.
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That’s brilliant hopefully he has put his injury woes behind him & can rediscover his old form when he was a colossus.
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Absolutely unbelievable. Would love to hear the thinking behind that one!
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It gives us encouragement that now Big Tom has signed Joseph Olowu will follow shortly.
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Must admit, I didn't think he, or Olowu, would renew at this stage by waiting to keep their options open until the end of the season.
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Guessing he’s had no offers then.
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I’ve seen the drfc official skit on Instagram, could it be by going to that certain supermarket a slight pi$$ take on the folks who keep mentioning a previous discount supermarket ? It’s only my idea
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His form has stabilised somewhat recently.
Just don't put RWS in defense and we look infinitely better.
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Oh dear! Surely the whole point is that he hasnt returned to the performance levels before injury! I like him but he is only 50% of the player he was.
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I’m not aware of the terms. If his wage reflects that he’s a bit injury prone and a L2 player I don’t mind. If it’s a reward for performances I’m worried
Personally I thought we’d let him go and use his presumably L1 wages be spent getting a replacement
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When will we learn
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The more I think about it the more I can’t justify it. Copps has had to endure the last few seasons like the rest of us. I can’t condone rewarding anyone whose been involved that long in such a spiral.
Maybe it’s really harsh to say this and I’m been too emotional because he’s a good L2 player when fit. But I want to move on completely from last season so don’t really have much time for anyone from that time.
I suppose one question in favour is would you trust us to sign someone better!
If Williams gets a new deal I’ll lose faith completely
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With the right players round him he's great, been good the last few games now for me
Put pace and passers next to him and let him do what he's good at.
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Can't see this being the same wage he's on I I imagine 2 and a half years length will have enabled potentially slighter amounts
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Didn’t think he’d re-sign tbh. Quite pleased let him do the dirty work with headers with a couple of ball players next to him
Good to see us getting contracts sorted
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Great news - he is a good solid pro. He has had a while out with injuries and maybe isn't the player he was just yet, but I'm sure he will be if he can stay fit. With him committing, I am hopeful that Olowu will be next.
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Need to tie Maxwell, Hurst and Faulkner down to longer deals
With a bit of luck we are working on something for Lakin too
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I’m sorry but I find it absolutely unbelievable given his injury problems that we would offer him such a long contract especially with what has happened to Taylor
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So is it 2.5 years from now? If so then it’s this season plus 2 more. So could sell with a year left I guess.
He’s not that old, just has an old head on young shoulders. It could be good. If he stays fit now and gets back to his best. Who knows.
He’s spent the best years of his career with us. He’s had ups and downs but overall I like him.
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I’m sorry but I find it absolutely unbelievable given his injury problems that we would offer him such a long contract especially with what has happened to Taylor
He's been largely a great and committed pro for us and clearly a top lad. It's probably time for us both to make a fresh start though. I'm surprised to see a 2.5 year deal.
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Maybe it’s partly to help Olowu sign up for something similar.
Those 2 and the full backs signed up would be good.
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Just dont get it
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So is it 2.5 years from now? If so then it’s this season plus 2 more. So could sell with a year left I guess.
He’s not that old, just has an old head on young shoulders. It could be good. If he stays fit now and gets back to his best. Who knows.
He’s spent the best years of his career with us. He’s had ups and downs but overall I like him.
He's nearly 30, doubt many will be willing to shell out.
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Makes a change from running a contract down and then offering a new contract in the closed season
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Does this spell the end before a real beginning for Faulkner at the club? Tom's not a ball playing centre half that Danny's system demands (well 2 of the 3 at least) does this mean Bobby isn't on consideration for the first team next season (or the remainder of this) and will we see him leave?
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Dear me
People moan like mad when we let contracts run down, then we sign possibly our most important player on a good contract and people moan again.
Crackers
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Dear me
People moan like mad when we let contracts run down, then we sign possibly our most important player on a good contract and people moan again.
Crackers
Does this refer to my above. Because it's not a complaint about Anderson signing but more of a question what does it mean for Faulkner?
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Very poor decision.
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Dear me
People moan like mad when we let contracts run down, then we sign possibly our most important player on a good contract and people moan again.
Crackers
Does this refer to my above. Because it's not a complaint about Anderson signing but more of a question what does it mean for Faulkner?
Faulkner is still very young, especially as a centre back. Because he is quick, once he can match Anderson on the ball there’s no reason he can’t be first choice in his mould.
My concerns with Anderson are his fitness and pace for this style. If you remember back to September, everyone on this forum (including me) thought he was ready for the wrecker’s yard. When DS plays him as a wide CB his lack of pace is targeted and is a glaring weakness.
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Baffling.
Defensively we've been awful for two seasons. The only reason Anderson would get a two and a half year contract, is if we know we're not going to get anyone better.
He's injury prone and way past his best. In my humble opinion obvs
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There seems to be a huge amount of presumption on this thread that he's been given a new contract with exactly the same wage as his existing one.
Surely we're not beyond giving some basic credit to the club and presuming that the facts that the club is a level below where it was when he signed, and that he's had injury issues, will undoubtedly have been factored into what's been offered.
He may not be as great as he was, he may not be our star centre half, but he's a solid pro who can be an excellent player at this level and can do a job at the level above, and the one thing we've lacked in recent years is continuity in our squad.
If he is on the same wage he was when he first signed then fine that ought to be criticised, but I'm willing to bet sums I don't have that he won't be.
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Exactly. The same assumptions were made about Taylor.
Fingers crossed Anderson doesn't have anywhere near the amount of injuries Taylor has suffered, as it' all ties in to Copps aspiration to have 18 to 19 permanent players going forward and part of that needs to be a strong spine of the team.
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I think that is fair comment, VivaRovers. It does however leave the club open once again to the Netto Brigade accusations that it is willing to continue with it's weakening of the playing squad.
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Baffling.
Defensively we've been awful for two seasons. The only reason Anderson would get a two and a half year contract, is if we know we're not going to get anyone better.
He's injury prone and way past his best. In my humble opinion obvs
Mainly because Anderson hasn’t been playing. Before last year he was up there with one of the best centre halves we’ve ever had.
He’s not injury prone, just had a bad injury.
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I don't really get the negativity around this. Anderson is a proven, solid defender for us at this level and the one above.
If we let him go, would we necessarily be able to go out and find anyone significantly better than him in the summer anyway? I wouldn't bank on it.
I'm pleased we've got him signed up. It's one less needless risk to take in the summer transfer window.
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There seems to be a huge amount of presumption on this thread that he's been given a new contract with exactly the same wage as his existing one.
Surely we're not beyond giving some basic credit to the club and presuming that the facts that the club is a level below where it was when he signed, and that he's had injury issues, will undoubtedly have been factored into what's been offered.
He may not be as great as he was, he may not be our star centre half, but he's a solid pro who can be an excellent player at this level and can do a job at the level above, and the one thing we've lacked in recent years is continuity in our squad.
If he is on the same wage he was when he first signed then fine that ought to be criticised, but I'm willing to bet sums I don't have that he won't be.
It depends on what he is getting paid as Viva says. He’s probably value at a grand a week but awful value at two grand a week. Have too many players that are being paid more than they are worth and it kills a club with a limited budget. Can’t make mistakes in that department.
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I reckon he will be on more than £1k pw
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Past his best, Copps must expect us to stay in this division for that time
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Past his best, Copps must expect us to stay in this division for that time
His best was the top of L1.
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Injury problems a concern especially with 2 and half year contract.Maybe he would'nt sign for one year.
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Whether people like it or not we are stuck with three at back next season. Nelson will go. That leaves us with Anderson. Long is not fancied and I doubt Faulkner will be a starter for a good while next season yet. That only leaves us with Ro-Shaun and he is out of contract. You do wonder if the relative absence of centre backs means he may get an extension also. Olowu potentially on his way you might imagine.
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Whether people like it or not we are stuck with three at back next season. Nelson will go. That leaves us with Anderson. Long is not fancied and I doubt Faulkner will be a starter for a good while next season yet. That only leaves us with Ro-Shaun and he is out of contract. You do wonder if the relative absence of centre backs means he may get an extension also. Olowu potentially on his way you might imagine.
If we extend Williams contract because we’re short a few players that would suggest we have no confidence in our own recruitment.
I’d back myself to sign 2 better centre backs probably on less money than him!
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This may be good value for us if a few things are confirmed and taken into consideration.
If he's getting a wage more commensurate with the level we are new at, with performance and promotion incentives then i'm fine with that.
If the medical staff have got to the bottom of his injury issues then i'd be fine with that also.
I we can get him playing to somewhere near his previous levels then we all benefit, i'd like to see him back to not having any marking responsibilities at set pieces and just being allowed to find his own space and attack the ball, similar to an opposition striker, when he did this previously he was immense and looked like one of the best defenders in the league, it's what he needs more than anything else, asking him to man mark is a lottery, i've watched him closely, only half the player he can be when bridled with that responsibility.
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Looking to next season I think we need another senior centre back, sign Brown if we can, probably two HIGH ENERGY central midfielders, pace on the width, and at least one central option to Miller. Re-sign Olowu. We might just have a chance of competing next season.
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Looking to next season I think we need another senior centre back, sign Brown if we can, probably two HIGH ENERGY central midfielders, pace on the width, and at least one central option to Miller. Re-sign Olowu. We might just have a chance of competing next season.
Sounds sensible but if we insist on playing out from the back on every occasion without mixing it up then we will just waste our money on the better players because the end result will be the same stunted, no attacking play with static players looking at three defenders and a goalie getting themselves into a tangle every week.
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Very good news, will still be a good player for us, & deserves a decent contract.
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Delighted Anderson has signed a new contract.
It was obviously going to take some time to get over his injury. It was a nasty one.
Why are people saying he is injury prone? Where is the evidence for that?
He has had a few niggles because it takes any player a while to get back up to speed after a long lay off.
If the coach and medical staff feel his fitness is not an issue going forward then giving him another 2 yrs after this season is a no brainier.
He is an excellent pro and role model and at league 2 level we would seriously struggle to get anyone better imo.
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The medical staff haven’t got a great record on judging player fitness
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The medical staff haven’t got a great record on judging player fitness
We have different staff now compared to the start of the season don’t we?