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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on April 14, 2023, 12:56:05 pm
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
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Forgot to link to Warsi's piece.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/12/suella-braverman-diversity-cabinet-british-pakistani-men-rishi-sunak?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
THIS is what politics needs. People clearly and unequivocally calling out those who try to set society alight.
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Forgot to link to Warsi's piece.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/12/suella-braverman-diversity-cabinet-british-pakistani-men-rishi-sunak?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
THIS is what politics needs. People clearly and unequivocally calling out those who try to set society alight.
Agreed
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
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I like Warsi. She's quite regularly been very critical of the tories on TV shows and in the press. Which leaves me wondering why she doesn't defect to a party more aligned with her very reasonable outlook.
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
What has that got to do with her condemning racist language?
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
Chair of the Tory Party.
Where were you calling out Jimmy Saville, the 'biggest ever' grooming gang sentenced the other week and the one that has just been charged?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/21-evil-faces-behind-biggest-29639181
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11938571/Thirteen-men-court-charged-50-child-grooming-sex-offences-including-rape-assault.html
Oh, look what race/colour they are.
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
What has that got to do with her condemning racist language?
My point was in replying to BST saying,
"We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues."
So where was she to say explicitly what she thought of those situations?
Were they not "key issues" ?
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
Chair of the Tory Party.
Where were you calling out Jimmy Saville, the 'biggest ever' grooming gang sentenced the other week and the one that has just been charged?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/21-evil-faces-behind-biggest-29639181
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11938571/Thirteen-men-court-charged-50-child-grooming-sex-offences-including-rape-assault.html
Oh, look what race/colour they are.
Totally agree, where was she in not explicitly calling out these criminals whatever their colour, race or creed.
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Good on Sayeeda Warsi for stridently calling out Braverman's racist language for what it is. We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues.
I see a number of "senior Tories" have been talking to the Press about Braverman being a disgrace, a racist, using dangerous language and working on the belief that she can get away with playing to the Tory base on this because, with her not being white, the Opposition can't go for her on race.
All very good that they are seeing what she is doing. It would be much more impressive if they went public like Warsi, instead of talking off the record. It's be even more impressive if they...y'know...didn't vote for her racist policies.
Where was the openly vocal Warsi when the Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford incidents occurred?
As a "straight-talking Yorkshire woman in her 50's" I don't recall her having much to say, if you could enlighten us?
What has that got to do with her condemning racist language?
My point was in replying to BST saying,
"We need more politicians like this who don't hide behind bland statements but are prepared to say explicitly what they think on key issues."
So where was she to say explicitly what she thought of those situations?
Were they not "key issues" ?
Here's a suggestion.
Go and look for yourself. You'll find it in about 15 seconds.
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Funny enough, I was just talking about an inhuman mind, spouting flat out lies and having no concept of morality.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1651109639507828737
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I see Braverman has today tweeted that the Lords shouldn't block the Rwanda bill because it is the "will of the people".
Where on earth to start with that?
She's doing precisely what Lineker caused such a stink for pointing out - using the language of the Nazis.
She's saying that the Lords, whatever you think of them, don't have the right to block Commons motions.
She's saying that this Government, elected by 44% of those who voted and now on its third PM and third Home Secretary since the election, and now supported by under 30% in the polls represents "the will of the people".
Like I say, she's a Poundland fascist and would be the full deal if she got the chance. Horrible woman.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65593353
On superficial glance, this looks like the sort of shite that political parties come up with when they have lost any concept of how to address the real challenges facing a country.
It feels like a party asking to be put out of its misery.
But Braverman knows what she's doing here. She's given up on the next election. She's positioning herself to appeal to the Tory membership when the fight for control of the party comes in 18 months. Appealing to all those silly old "eeh, it used to be so much better when I was a kid" gets who make up the membership of the party.
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Have to say though, I don't have a theory to explain this, from the same Far Right conference.
https://twitter.com/broderly/status/1658108814413971456?s=20
Other than that Tory backbenchers are madder than several boxes of frogs
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Braverman "There is no good reason why we can't train up enough HGV drivers, butchers or fruit pickers."
Er has she not seen the current UK unemployment figures???
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Dead person walking as of today.
Sunak will dither over this as he always does, but she cannot possibly break the Ministerial Code like this an survive.
Awful judgement by Sunak to take her on in the first place. She's as mad as a box of frogs and was always going to do something stupid like this, because she thinks she's above the rules.
It's as clear as day to anyone who watches her for 30 seconds. Why couldn't HE see it?
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Braverman "There is no good reason why we can't train up enough HGV drivers, butchers or fruit pickers."
Er has she not seen the current UK unemployment figures???
Branton
I hope you feel guilty of breaking BST's attempt to enter the Guiness Book of of records for "talking to himself" posts, he had developed a promising "suite" of 5 consecutive posts to himself and you spoil sport go and ruin it - never mind 6 out of the last 7* posts "aint bad" as Meatloaf would say ( *allowing for inflation 2 out of 3 posts becomes 6 out of 7) ;)
adapting the famous Winston Churchill response when a lady accused him of being drunk his response was
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'My dear you are ugly, but tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be ugly': Winston Churchill tops poll of history's funniest insults
adapting that we have ..
'My dear BST you are peddling away pointlessly wasting your life on this site, I am viewing the site for a short while as i live my life , but in a short while i will be off in the real world and you will still be still peddling away day after day talking to yourself.:
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Very funny that the psychotic, frothing fascist racist who's desperate to drive a coach and horses through any and all human rights laws is getting brought down over a speeding ticket.
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Oh come on now, we can't let a poor delicate flower like Suella have to slum it alongside the rest of us plebs who happen to break the law, can we?
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Suzy (she is the least 'Suzy' like person in the world) facing new investigation into breach of the Ministerial Code by failing to declare her links to the Rwandan government apparently.
It's almost like she's begging to be sacked (again) to prepare a Leadership bid.
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And look at how the far Right are playing this.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/22/now-the-woke-blob-is-coming-for-braverman/
Putting up Braverman as the next victim of the "woke Blob". This ridiculous concept that there's an evil woke conspiracy to bring down every fair, honest right of centre person.
b*llocks. She's going to get sacked because she's incapable of waking up without breaking the Ministerial Code. This latest one will be the third in 8 months.
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Is Sunak less afraid of her as a minister as he would be more afraid of her as a backbencher?
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Is Sunak less afraid of her as a minister as he would be more afraid of her as a backbencher?
Nail.
Head.
There is absolutely no way she should have been anywhere near the Cabinet again for years after she leaked Cabinet papers last year.
But Sunak knows how strong the far right of the Tory party is, and he wanted her inside the tent pissing out.
As it happens, she's been inside the tent alright, but pissing all over everyone else, both inside and out.
He WILL sack her over this breach. It's just a question of him summoning up the courage to do it. And the carnage it will lead to.
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Will it be the speeding or the undeclared links to Rwanda though?
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Will it be the speeding or the undeclared links to Rwanda though?
The speeding isn't the issue, just what caused the issue - which was Braverman wanting civil servants (who are paid by the taxpayer to run the country) to sort her personal shit out instead of doing their actual jobs.
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Looks like Sunak is going to attempt to clear her, and distract from the issue by dobbing in Johnson to the police instead. Don't see the Johnson headbangers taking that lying down.
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