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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: steve@dcfd on April 18, 2023, 09:52:23 pm
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Richie as taken Orient into league 1
While McSheffrey, Schofield and Coppinger along with the Chairman and Owner turns our club into a laughing stock.
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Richie as taken Orient into league 1
While McSheffrey, Schofield and Coppinger along with the Chairman and Owner turns our club into a laughing stock.
He was getting almost as much stick 18 months ago from people on here as schofield is now
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
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It's all to do with the budget.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
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I'm not justifying or comparing here, it's just a fact that he made terrible signings, delivered terrible football and terrible results for us. Overall, he was a terrible manager for us.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Wasn’t a fair bit of money thrown at it last season? And this season it’s paid off.
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He's done very well there's no doubting that. The fact is as Doncaster manager he was very poor. Was that due to him not able to get the right players? We will never know. Be interesting to see how they do next year.
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He was bad for us but we’ve managed to get worse. He’s at least proved he’s a good manager at this level it was just poor signings, did he make them or Younger?, and bad timing fir him.
DS and McSheffery without success before they entered the circus probably won’t get another chance of a top job.
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Wellens didn’t use his budget effectively, that was his problem
Close, knoyle, Williams, Rowe were expensive and left not much cash for everywhere else
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Good for him. He's still an arsehole mind
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Good for him. He's still an arsehole mind
Being nice isn't a job.
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Someone here quoted some figures the other week about how much certain teams very loosing each week, I seem to think Wrexham,Salford and Orient were mentioned and the figures were around the £50k mark, can anyone else remember the quote
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Exactly. So what is DS’s excuse then dickos.
No he doesn’t have one.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Exactly. So what is DS’s excuse then dickos.
No he doesn’t have one.
He’s had a full summer signing his own players and getting them to play the way he wants them to.
It’s not difficult really to fathom
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If you look at Wellens managerial career, success at Swindon & Orient, sacked by Oldham, Salford & us, the further away from Manchester he has been, the better his record.
Something for him to ponder maybe.
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Well done to him. Rovers legend as a player. Took over at a very difficult time as a manager and it was sad that it didn't work. Glad to see he's bounced back and is proving again that he is a decent manager.
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“ Rovers legend as a player “ , he was a very good player for us but legend is a bit strong
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“ Rovers legend as a player “ , he was a very good player for us but legend is a bit strong
You're entitled to your opinion. For me, not many better midfielders have played for the club in my time. Huge part of the 2007/08 promotion team, and he was excellent in two Championship seasons for us.
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Congratulations to him.
He has proved he is able to man manage players
What happened at Rovers who knows. The Bogle situation was farcical.
The non signing of a decent striker was also farcical.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Well they have spent almost twice as much as us on Agents fees https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/how-much-every-league-two-club-has-paid-on-agents-fees-according-to-latest-football-association-figures-and-where-doncaster-rovers-stevenage-walsall-tranmere-rovers-and-crawley-town-rank-4099730
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“ Rovers legend as a player “ , he was a very good player for us but legend is a bit strong
You're entitled to your opinion. For me, not many better midfielders have played for the club in my time. Huge part of the 2007/08 promotion team, and he was excellent in two Championship seasons for us.
The term Legend doesn’t apply to good players, Colin Douglas wasn’t a brilliant player but he’s a legend . Rufus Brevitt was a very good player but not a legend
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Along with Stock they were the best two midfield players I’ve watched. Snodins were good Mcindoe was good and of late Whiteman but Stock and Richie did their work in the Championship as well as league one.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Well they have spent almost twice as much as us on Agents fees https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/how-much-every-league-two-club-has-paid-on-agents-fees-according-to-latest-football-association-figures-and-where-doncaster-rovers-stevenage-walsall-tranmere-rovers-and-crawley-town-rank-4099730
I wish we had a side like Leyton Orient for just over £50 grand extra!
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Well they have spent almost twice as much as us on Agents fees https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/how-much-every-league-two-club-has-paid-on-agents-fees-according-to-latest-football-association-figures-and-where-doncaster-rovers-stevenage-walsall-tranmere-rovers-and-crawley-town-rank-4099730
I wish we had a side like Leyton Orient for just over £50 grand extra!
…….and I think we would get that fifty grand back, and more, if we were top of the league.
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He made terrible signings and delivered terrible football with terrible results for us.
He took Orient from relegation to 14th last season and with the right resources and backing they’ve achieved promotion and probably Champions
Not sure their budget is the reason, they only signed 3 players, all free transfers I believe too.
Well they have spent almost twice as much as us on Agents fees https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/how-much-every-league-two-club-has-paid-on-agents-fees-according-to-latest-football-association-figures-and-where-doncaster-rovers-stevenage-walsall-tranmere-rovers-and-crawley-town-rank-4099730
I wish we had a side like Leyton Orient for just over £50 grand extra!
…….and I think we would get that fifty grand back, and more, if we were top of the league.
Point is,not in every case but often,the amount spent on agents fees should be a good indicator of how much the budget/wage bills will be in comparison with each club.IF they only signed 3 players,they must be well regarded players on a good wage,or also extended contracts of existing players that they wanted to eagerly keep or risk losing like we lost Knoyle.Although Richie's success this season,maybe nothing to do with having a bigger budget,it may just be he is a good manager at League two level,but he struggles at league one standard,upto now anyway.
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My only problem with Richie was how he held grudges against people like Omar Bogle who could’ve made a big difference to us - Wellens chose to play without a striker altogether for 5-6 games rather than swallow his pride and bring Omar back from the table tennis table. Now as we all know Omar wasn’t a great centre forward but he was at least a striker by trade - this is what cost Wellens his job imo.
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Ps had he played Bogle I reckon we wouldn’t have gotten relegated.
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Ps had he played Bogle I reckon we wouldn’t have gotten relegated.
We will never know.
What we do know is Bogle was a better option than Dodoo or Curkur.
He has scored 9/10 for Newport this season hasn’t he.
Yes it’s a league lower and I would suggest league 2 is probably his level.
How many will he score against us on Saturday? ;)
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My only problem with Richie was how he held grudges against people like Omar Bogle who could’ve made a big difference to us - Wellens chose to play without a striker altogether for 5-6 games rather than swallow his pride and bring Omar back from the table tennis table. Now as we all know Omar wasn’t a great centre forward but he was at least a striker by trade - this is what cost Wellens his job imo.
If Bogle was that good how come Newport are not top of the league, with Bogle getting the golden boot? They aren't, he isn't and he was useless. Couldn't even get a shot on target from the penalty spot.
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My only problem with Richie was how he held grudges against people like Omar Bogle who could’ve made a big difference to us - Wellens chose to play without a striker altogether for 5-6 games rather than swallow his pride and bring Omar back from the table tennis table. Now as we all know Omar wasn’t a great centre forward but he was at least a striker by trade - this is what cost Wellens his job imo.
If Bogle was that good how come Newport are not top of the league, with Bogle getting the golden boot? They aren't, he isn't and he was useless. Couldn't even get a shot on target from the penalty spot.
It would be nice if we could get into a position where we might get a penalty these days.
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Orient now champions.
And their supporters didn’t get the memo.
Full pitch invasion complete with red flares.
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Well done Richie
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He was a guest on Football League highlights show last night, and when asked about preparing for League 1 he said he'd been there before but had probably the lowest budget in the League - especially at Doncaster where it was really really tough, and now he's looking forward to being there with a competitive budget.
A couple of reflections on that, firstly it seems contrary to the impression we get from the club in terms of available finance, and secondly (and most importantly) if we only pump investment on a period basis why on earth would we let Schofield be the one to bust the bank and shape the next few years of the club? I'm genuinely worried that we're on a course now which can only end in disaster. This might be the owners last hurrah in terms of investment and we're wasting it on desperate Danny.
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He was a guest on Football League highlights show last night, and when asked about preparing for League 1 he said he'd been there before but had probably the lowest budget in the League - especially at Doncaster where it was really really tough, and now he's looking forward to being there with a competitive budget.
A couple of reflections on that, firstly it seems contrary to the impression we get from the club in terms of available finance, and secondly (and most importantly) if we only pump investment on a period basis why on earth would we let Schofield be the one to bust the bank and shape the next few years of the club? I'm genuinely worried that we're on a course now which can only end in disaster. This might be the owners last hurrah in terms of investment and we're wasting it on desperate Danny.
I dont buy into this from RW that we had one of the lowest budgets in the league. If that was the case why take the job in the first place? Fair play to him for winning the league with Leyton Orient, fully deserved, but he was a disaster for us, as proved with the signings he made for us have not been any good even in League 2.
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He was a guest on Football League highlights show last night, and when asked about preparing for League 1 he said he'd been there before but had probably the lowest budget in the League - especially at Doncaster where it was really really tough, and now he's looking forward to being there with a competitive budget.
A couple of reflections on that, firstly it seems contrary to the impression we get from the club in terms of available finance, and secondly (and most importantly) if we only pump investment on a period basis why on earth would we let Schofield be the one to bust the bank and shape the next few years of the club? I'm genuinely worried that we're on a course now which can only end in disaster. This might be the owners last hurrah in terms of investment and we're wasting it on desperate Danny.
I dont buy into this from RW that we had one of the lowest budgets in the league. If that was the case why take the job in the first place? Fair play to him for winning the league with Leyton Orient, fully deserved, but he was a disaster for us, as proved with the signings he made for us have not been any good even in League 2.
He wasn't my cup of tea, he was an awful bully and his presence racing too and from the touchline was a distracting pantomime. That being said, both appointments since have been much much worse, culminating the current clown-show.
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Well Copps did say inadvertently yesterday that DS didn’t have money to spend. How RW can blow all the budget on four player this has been said then the budget must have been small. The agreements for players and contracts will have been been agreed by the the CEO sand Chairman so they would have said something. The budgets have been small for along time this was seen by the players we have signed.
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Richie’s video on Facebook makes interesting listening . He makes special mention of players and rovers .
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I could be wrong but I'm almost sure he said he had the lowest budget in the league at Doncaster, on The EFL programme last night.
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I could be wrong but I'm almost sure he said he had the lowest budget in the league at Doncaster, on The EFL programme last night.
We were told it was mid table. So someone is lying aren’t they. ;)
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I could be wrong but I'm almost sure he said he had the lowest budget in the league at Doncaster, on The EFL programme last night.
that could just be BS to cover up for doing such a poor job?
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If he did, he must have spent every penny of it on Rowe and Close, who both would have been on very healthy wages.
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It’s a hard one to judge. The end result of that season suggests he’s right but he does have a vested interest in making it sound like it wasn’t his fault.
I just don’t see how we could be spending less than Accrington, Burton, Cheltenham, Morecambe, Cambridge, Crewe, Gillingham and Wimbledon.
Only way I can level it in my head without saying he’s lying is that he means the budget was already allocated to contracted players I.e. he didn’t have a lot of spare money to sign new players.
Even that is a stretch I’m sure we had barely any contracted players after Moore.
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He didn’t complain when he was here, he even commented that the playing budget was bigger than he was expecting.
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Richie’s video on Facebook makes interesting listening . He makes special mention of players and rovers .
Can you share that please? Im not on FB.
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Tiago Çukur and Rodrigo Vilca.
Çukur is on loan at F.C.V. Dender E.H. in the Belgian second tier, and has managed 4 goals this season.
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Orient going up as champions is not news of course. But I’ve just been reading and seen the footage of the end of the game at their game at gillingham.
Utterly bizarre scenes.
With about 10 mins left there is a power cut so play stopped.
During this power cut the orient team realise they are going up and start to celebrate .when play re starts, neither team seems interested in playing and the ref ends the game on the grounds that it is no longer competitive.
I wonder how those who had placed bets on the game felt about this. ?
There is no way you would see this in the prem, there would be a massive enquiry.
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Richie’s video on Facebook makes interesting listening . He makes special mention of players and rovers .
Can you share that please? Im not on FB.
https://www.facebook.com/ainsley.cooper.1994/videos/910643510261525?idorvanity=499991353505572
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Tiago Çukur and Rodrigo Vilca.
Çukur is on loan at F.C.V. Dender E.H. in the Belgian second tier, and has managed 4 goals this season.
Çukur ended last season with 5 goals in 25 appearances in the Belgian second tier.
Fenerbahce has sent him on loan again for the season, this time to Sportkring Beveren, in the Belgium second tier.
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He was once a caterpillar but now …
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Tiago Çukur and Rodrigo Vilca.
Çukur is on loan at F.C.V. Dender E.H. in the Belgian second tier, and has managed 4 goals this season.
Çukur ended last season with 5 goals in 25 appearances in the Belgian second tier.
Fenerbahce has sent him on loan again for the season, this time to Sportkring Beveren, in the Belgium second tier.
Fenerbahçe have moved him on permanently, after not making much of an impression either there or any of his several loan moves. Amazingly though, he has landed an ok gig, with a three year deal at Roda JC Kerkrade in the Eerste Divisie (Dutch second tier). They only just missed out last season on promotion to the Eredivisie.
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Based on what I saw of him at Rovers I am astonished that he gets any kind of pro footballer deal.
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And at Roda Kerkrade too. Always had a soft spot for them after Dutch Uncle drove me past their ground some decades ago. Decent town. Decent middlingly small club. They've dropped one here though.
BobG
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just like we did