What on earth has happened to Reo Griffiths
Seaman had a good end to the season, for me probably the pick of them in the last 10 games, albeit in a poor team. He's still got something and has improved this season I'd say.
Westbrooke I don't see it but maybe he'll do well under a different manager (I didn't really rate Whiteman until Mccann came in).
Lavery and Griffiths are frustrating but good to see they're not carrying players that don't fit. Lavery a really poor signing as never ever fitted the system then and seemingly doesn't now. Griffiths I can't see making it as a pro.
No complaints on any of the released players though none of them have been successful.
The only player I could make an argument for is Bottomley as a back up to a new experienced keeper, the rest just aren’t good enough
Maybe I'm getting old , but can we be at least respectful of players that have now been made unemployed
The club's done what what was needed , it's gone and we move forward no need to send them off with a round of jeers too. We employed them good bad or indifferent. And I very much doubt any set out to fail
New broom is in , let's just go forward
The only player I could make an argument for is Bottomley as a back up to a new experienced keeper, the rest just aren’t good enough
Miller
Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux
Close Biggins
Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman
Jones
Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.
Seaman is garbage. Rest makes sense
I’m hoping majority of those are sat on the bench and two or three didn’t accept the contract when we hopefully sign the players we need
Miller
Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux
Close Biggins
Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman
Jones
Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.
but trueSeaman is garbage. Rest makes sense
I think that is a bit harsh...
Miller
Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux
Close Biggins
Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman
Jones
Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.
I'll be surprised if 6 of those are in our stating line up for the opening league game.
Can only see Maxwell, Oluwu and maybe Anderson starting the first game of next season out of that lot. I think Tommy Rowe will start so I would hope that 7 new signings will be starting the new season with Jones, Seaman (or new FB), Close (or new CM), Biggins or Westbrooke, Faulkner (or new CB), Molyneux and Miller on the bench.
Miller
Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux
Close Biggins
Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman
Jones
Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.
Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.
It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.
Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. :thumbsup: :scarf:
It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.
It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.
Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. :thumbsup: :scarf:
I know footballers get a rep for not been the brightest but I can’t believe anyone would really say “don’t pay me that 250k contract over 2 years I want it over 3 instead”
He might have lowered his demands a litter for an extra year but he won’t have signed to essentially play for a year for free which I think is what your saying
It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.
It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.
Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. :thumbsup: :scarf:
I know footballers get a rep for not been the brightest but I can’t believe anyone would really say “don’t pay me that 250k contract over 2 years I want it over 3 instead”
He might have lowered his demands a litter for an extra year but he won’t have signed to essentially play for a year for free which I think is what your saying
Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
No one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
He has contract for another year like Griffiths and Lavery you just can’t get rid of players. If Taylor can get fit then we might see a good player again.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Ravenhill, Jones and Seaman are total wastes of money and I see no reason if offering them anything. Every other decision is bang on the money.
No one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Where is that coming from?
He has contract for another year like Griffiths and Lavery you just can’t get rid of players. If Taylor can get fit then we might see a good player again.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
No one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Where is that coming from?
It was in the players wages list in the Free Press before Xmas. Taylor was top on £4,000, Clayton was second on £3,500, most others were £2,500 - £1,800
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/doncaster-rovers/
Ravenhill, Jones and Seaman are total wastes of money and I see no reason if offering them anything. Every other decision is bang on the money.Maybe Grant think that (a) he can improve them and (b) they can be useful players in his squad. Sadly no player played to his full potential last season. I would hope and expect our new management team to get at least 25% more out of all last season’s squad.
That is as dickos said total made up rubbish. 100% it isNo one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Where is that coming from?
It was in the players wages list in the Free Press before Xmas. Taylor was top on £4,000, Clayton was second on £3,500, most others were £2,500 - £1,800
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/doncaster-rovers/
Ravenhill, Jones and Seaman are total wastes of money and I see no reason if offering them anything. Every other decision is bang on the money.Maybe Grant think that (a) he can improve them and (b) they can be useful players in his squad. Sadly no player played to his full potential last season. I would hope and expect our new management team to get at least 25% more out of all last season’s squad.
We need back up for every position, I don’t understand how people can’t see that. We’re signing 8 quality players and these players will be back up, given an opportunity to impress when they get their chance. You can’t have 25 players that are all top quality league 1 and 2 players.
That is as dickos said total made up rubbish. 100% it isNo one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Where is that coming from?
It was in the players wages list in the Free Press before Xmas. Taylor was top on £4,000, Clayton was second on £3,500, most others were £2,500 - £1,800
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/doncaster-rovers/
Whoever printed that wants a serious look at himself.
I hope the club have said something to the Free press about it because it is embarrassing that our local rag can publish such utter made up tripe.
Yes I think rag is the right word.
Shocking lazy journalism of the highest order.
Whatever it is it is total rubbish.That is as dickos said total made up rubbish. 100% it isNo one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.
Why should he? How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you? These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.
I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.
Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?
Daft statement.
100% agree
The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?
Where is that coming from?
It was in the players wages list in the Free Press before Xmas. Taylor was top on £4,000, Clayton was second on £3,500, most others were £2,500 - £1,800
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/doncaster-rovers/
Whoever printed that wants a serious look at himself.
I hope the club have said something to the Free press about it because it is embarrassing that our local rag can publish such utter made up tripe.
Yes I think rag is the right word.
Shocking lazy journalism of the highest order.
It's not a locally produced article. It's a nationally produced item of clickbait published by each paper in the group and made to look of local interest.
Similar articles include top attendances, where your club ranks etc.
Has anyone seen any news on last seasons rejects? Don't think I've seen them crop up anywhere which isn't too surprising.
Senior players released at the end of their contract
Kieran Agard
Aidan Barlow
Jonathan Mitchell
Ro-Shaun Williams
Released but invited back for pre-season training
Ollie Younger
Senior players made available for transfer
Reo Griffiths
Caolan Lavery
We’ve been told there are more to come & if we can compliment the squad with ‘useful loanees’ (i.e. not some speed merchant whose hair makes up a third of his total body weight!) then I feel we’re more than good to go.