Retained List Confirmed

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Miller

Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux

Close Biggins

Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman

Jones

Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.

I'll be surprised if 6 of those are in our stating line up for the opening league game.

[Metalmicky]

Seaman is garbage. Rest makes sense

I think that is a bit harsh...

[steve@dcfd]

Miller

Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux

Close Biggins

Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman

Jones

Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.

I’m hoping majority of those are sat on the bench and two or three didn’t accept the contract when we hopefully sign the players we need

[elmsallrover]

Seaman is garbage. Rest makes sense

I think that is a bit harsh...

but true

[Reg of the Rovers]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

[ncRover]

Miller

Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux

Close Biggins

Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman

Jones

Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.

I'll be surprised if 6 of those are in our stating line up for the opening league game.

A new first choice striker.

Orient, Stevenage and Northampton would not have been promoted with George Miller up front on his own.

[Redroy]

Biggins and Close are not the answer. Biggins in gash (imo) but I rate Close.

Think there is still some work to be done on shifting some out if possible. Otherwise they will be OK bench options.

[roversdude]

Football is strange I don’t rate Close, not completely sold on Biggins

[Bessie Red]

Miller

Hurst Westbrooke Molyneux

Close Biggins

Maxwell Anderson Olowu Seaman

Jones

Looking at that we need a keeper, a right back, a center mid, a left wing. Then to make a competitive squad a couple of strikers, another center mid, maybe a center back.

Can only see Maxwell, Oluwu and maybe Anderson starting the first game of next season out of that lot. I think Tommy Rowe will start so I would hope that 7 new signings will be starting the new season with Jones, Seaman (or new FB), Close (or new CM), Biggins or Westbrooke, Faulkner (or new CB), Molyneux and Miller on the bench.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

[roversdude]

Goodman signed 2 year deal

[Dutch Uncle]

It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.

It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.

Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. 

[Reg of the Rovers]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all. 

[ChrisBx]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.

Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?

Daft statement.

[sedwardsdrfc]

It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.

It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.

Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. 

I know footballers get a rep for not been the brightest but I can’t believe anyone would really say “don’t pay me that 250k contract over 2 years I want it over 3 instead”

He might have lowered his demands a litter for an extra year but he won’t have signed to essentially play for a year for free which I think is what your saying

[GazLaz]

It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.

It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.

Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. 

I know footballers get a rep for not been the brightest but I can’t believe anyone would really say “don’t pay me that 250k contract over 2 years I want it over 3 instead”

He might have lowered his demands a litter for an extra year but he won’t have signed to essentially play for a year for free which I think is what your saying

The three year duration at different terms was advantageous for him securing a property I believe.

[Dutch Uncle]

It has been mentioned before but the Taylor deal is not as bad as first seems.

It seems he was offered a 2 year deal, but negotiated a three year deal for the same total of money, i.e. on 2/3 of the weekly wage. So there is less to be gained than at first sight, and if we can get 20-30 games out of him it might well be worth it.

Also IIRC his injuries started with a full blooded effort for a 50-50 ball in the opposition box, so he has the same respect in my eyes as Joe Wright. And GM knows him and has already praised his character. Let's see how he is in pre-season. We all might just be a bit lucky, I certainly hope ,so for his sake as well as ours. 

I know footballers get a rep for not been the brightest but I can’t believe anyone would really say “don’t pay me that 250k contract over 2 years I want it over 3 instead”

He might have lowered his demands a litter for an extra year but he won’t have signed to essentially play for a year for free which I think is what your saying

He will be paying less tax, and may have other middle-term financial reasons for preferring three years. IMHO it is not as black and white as it seems. I don't know the details and there may well be a small delta in there. 

Edit: Gazlaz has just hinted at one such reason

[sedwardsdrfc]

Fair enough never considered the mortgage side. Would kill me to take less money like that but I’m greedy

[Reg of the Rovers]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.

Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?

Daft statement.

Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.

[BigH]

And he’s barely played for 3 years. Over and out.

[ChrisBx]

I'd let him go personally, however we can't just simply get rid without the player agreeing to it. He's not going to do that unless it's financially advantageous for him to do so.

[Thorney]

Well good luck to all the players that have been released, and hope lavery and Griffiths also get a new club because if they don't then they probably won't get a shirt next year, thanks for your efforts boys.

Some were awful, but hard to judge too much when some of them have had to play under god awful managers with some of the negative tripe they have set the team up to play.

Lavery never really had a lot of time, and it was all under DS, bet he wished he had stayed at scunny.

Wanted Griffiths to work out but never got going. But will always be thankful for the Sunderland goal

[Alan Southstand]

Seaman is not, nor will he ever be, a right back. A wing back, maybe at a push, but that’s it.

We need a first team keeper, then a right back, a midfield anchor man/organiser and a target man/ striker. After that, some pace somewhere wouldn’t go amiss with a bit of creativity. That’s 5 and GM wants 8, so I would think the 5 I’ve described will be amongst the 8 newbies (if he gets them all).

Probably, it will be a combination of permanents and loans and if he gets 2 loans, similar to Wilks and Kane, then I’ll be a very happy man.

[normal rules]

The axe has been wielded. Not before time . Onwards and upwards.

[Alan Southstand]

It could have been worse, NR. Much worse.

[Ryaldinhio]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.

Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?

Daft statement.

Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.

100% agree

The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?

[Chris Black come back]

The last goal Taylor scored was in Darren Moore’s final game for us, defeat away at Ipswich Town on 27 February 2021. Of the 18 players in our squad that day, other than him they have all left the club, with Tom Anderson the exception.

[Campsall rover]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.

Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?

Daft statement.

Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.

100% agree

The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?

No one at the club is on anywhere near 4 grand a week.
Where is that coming from? 

[StocksArmy]

Ravenhill, Jones and  Seaman are total wastes of money and I see no reason of offering them anything. Every other decision is bang on the money.

[steve@dcfd]

Let's hope there's conversations ongoing to mutually end Taylors millstone of a deal. Puts in to context how decent Tomlin's decision was to retire - he could have gone off injured and played golf on our wage bill. Hopefully Taylor will do the same and the club can negotiate him out. Every pound we spend on him is a pound wasted.

Why should he?  How would you react if injured at work your employer wanted to sack you?  These aren't premier league footballers with millions in the bank.

I hope he gets fit and comes back for us, having chatted to him he wants nothing more than to be playing each week, very different to those who aren't motivated by the sport any more.

Good idea, let's keep a player that is rarely fit enough to play, and when he manages the odd game is abjectly poor. He might still talk a good game, but his legs are long gone. If I wasn't able to do my job 90% of the time I would expect to lose my job, as would we all.

Even if the reason you couldn't do your job was because you were injured at work?

Daft statement.

Bleeding hearts aside, I don't think anyone can make a good footballing case to keep Taylor. He's lost his pace, his shooting is unbelievably poor, his end product on delivery is unbelievably poor, I can't remember his last goal, his last assist, his last meaningful contribution. He makes a few bang-average performances a season. I can't understand where this view that we owe him a living comes from, he's taking up decent wages we could spend on an actual player. He's been a crock since he joined and that gets worse each year. He needs to go.

100% agree

The only worrying thing for me of all the media in the last week was McCann mentioning Taylor as a character. So we will keep paying him 4k a week, 200k next yr to play a handful of games?

He has contract for another year like Griffiths and Lavery you just can’t get rid of players. If Taylor can get fit then we might see a good player again.