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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: scawsby steve on January 16, 2024, 09:27:40 pm
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Those blaming him for that Wigan goal tonight are talking out of their arsholes. The winger was allowed far too much space for the cross, and no-one challenged Wyke for the header.
Louis was brilliant tonight, but we all know there are 2 or 3 on here who will never acknowledge him for anything.
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Looked glued to his line but made up for it well done
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Fine save at the end to get us to pens. Well played from someone who's moaned previously
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Those blaming him for that Wigan goal tonight are talking out of their arsholes. The winger was allowed far too much space for the cross, and no-one challenged Wyke for the header.
Louis was brilliant tonight, but we all know there are 2 or 3 on here will never acknowledge him for anything.
:that:
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He was top class and has gained in confidence no end though has had to save a penalty to please even tonight .Well played Louis.
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Goal was down to Rowe out of position to block the cross and Olowu on defence of cross.
I have been critical of Jones but tonight he kept us in the game with save in the last seconds and then saved pen that won the shootout.
I was dissapointed the lads didn't go and celebrate with him. I think it was more a lack of respect for the competition than the lad.
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Those blaming him for that Wigan goal tonight are talking out of their arsholes. The winger was allowed far too much space for the cross, and no-one challenged Wyke for the header.
Louis was brilliant tonight, but we all know there are 2 or 3 on here who will never acknowledge him for anything.
As I said elsewhere the cross should have been challenged at source but on crosses like that at pace he flaps at. I have acknowledged the contribution he made in the rest of the tie. On crosses like that he needs to work on to get better
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Played well tonight, i'm not sure about punching shots out on the full but the late save took us to penalties.
For their goal he seemed to be remonstrating with McGrath which i found odd, McGrath had closed down the wide player in the move just before they crossed it ion, he was still on his way back into the centre and had no chance to get to the ball. Our mate Joe managed to let Wyke take all the time in the world and get in front of him and calmly head it home, any sort of attempt at a challenge would of been nice.
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I thought Jones was good on Saturday, coming out to take a few crosses including the one where he got clattered. He's making some good saves and gethers plus his kicking is generally good.
Hope these are signs he's growing a bit in confidence. There's obviously areas we think he could do better but credit where credit due, he deserves the plaudits from tonight, as do the rest of the team.
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Also looks to me like he would benefit from piling on an extra stone or two, as a goalie it never does any harm and usually stands you in good stead in a crowded box.
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He’s improved no end this season. Not flawless but this season and last season are night and day.
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Superb again today, great save at the end and the pen save aswell.
Getting better at commanding the box which u only get better with games.
His distribution as well is excellent, the one late on aside (which tbf the ball was on and if it had come off Taylor would’ve been in) it was excellent. The goal kick straight to Hursts foot early doors and then the one over the top for Molyneux we’re both class.
Definitely growing in confidence.
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He’s improved no end this season. Not flawless but this season and last season are night and day.
He only played two games at the end of last season?
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Looked glued to his line but made up for it well done
glued to his line,you mean your expecting to come and try and claim that cross,unreal wow
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Seen it again take it all back
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Superb again today, great save at the end and the pen save aswell.
Getting better at commanding the box which u only get better with games.
His distribution as well is excellent, the one late on aside (which tbf the ball was on and if it had come off Taylor would’ve been in) it was excellent. The goal kick straight to Hursts foot early doors and then the one over the top for Molyneux we’re both class.
Definitely growing in confidence.
The Hurst and Molyneux ( in particular) passes were probably the best passes I’ve ever seen a keeper make, they were Glenn Hoddle esq, surprised they haven’t been mentioned more……simply amazing.
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He’ll never widely get the credit he deserves as we love to slaughter a goalkeeper at this club. Sad really.
Can’t think of a single keeper since Sully that hasn’t been slaughtered. Bet some even had a pop at him.
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The only one I can think of who got off without much stick is Sony Dieng.
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The only one I can think of who got off without much stick is Sony Dieng.
I should have clarified that. Keepers that were our players. Dieng and Sam Johnstone were on loan from bigger clubs and were way too good for our standard.
I really don’t know who some think we should be signing. Any keeper that doesn’t make a mistake won’t be in League 1 or 2!!!!
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I thought Jones was good on Saturday, coming out to take a few crosses including the one where he got clattered. He's making some good saves and gethers plus his kicking is generally good.
Hope these are signs he's growing a bit in confidence. There's obviously areas we think he could do better but credit where credit due, he deserves the plaudits from tonight, as do the rest of the team.
His kicking is very good for this level.
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He has improved a lot and will continue too. If we have a stable back 4 it would help him more. McGrath will help if he’s a regular.
I think we have a good goalkeeper here. He seems to have the attitude in wanting to keep learning. I would have him start over Lawlor every time.
Let’s get behind him.
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I watched the clip of his interview after the Wigan game.
Besides liking most of what he said I found myself thinking about how much he reminded me of Peter Shilton.
It is probably the hairstyle he has but the way he responded to questions was also reminiscent of the great man too.
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Those blaming him for that Wigan goal tonight are talking out of their arsholes. The winger was allowed far too much space for the cross, and no-one challenged Wyke for the header.
Louis was brilliant tonight, but we all know there are 2 or 3 on here who will never acknowledge him for anything.
SS he should have come for the cross. So yes he was partly at fault for the goal. Yes the defending before the cross was not good agreed.
Louie made up for it with some good saves and the penalty save of course.
But he has a reluctance to come for crosses in the 6 yd box which should be his. This is a big problem SS and I am sorry he is not good enough for a team which will have promotion aspirations next season I hope.
Neither is Lawlor I fear.
We must sign a quality keeper in the summer. That’s the most important signing we will make if we are going to finish top 3 imo.
I have no axe to grind with Louie and would love him as a local lad to be the keeper we need as no 1.
1 always praise him when he has done well so I hope I am not one of those 2/3 you refer to SS.
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He would not have got there in time. It was a cross whipped in with pace, near post and right on to Wyke’s head. No chance.
Once the cross is coming in it’s Olowu’s job to shepherd Wyke and at least get the right side or bare minimum make it harder for him to get the header on target.
Louis was good with crosses v Newport so hopefully he is improving in that regard. I know he’s not perfect but we’ve got the 2 goalies we have now for this season and next.
Camps you rated Mitchell, surely you think Jones is an upgrade?
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I think the problem, to an extent, is his anticipation. The Wigan lad was going to cross as McGrath had come across to block his progress. If he anticipates it, he probably gets there before Wyke. After all, if you watch his movement, his first step was forward, then he hesitated and that was that!
The fact that his first movement was forward is a giant leap for his progress, as previously, he has always stripped back to his line.
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He did well, no chance is that goal his fault, at some point you have to credit the opposite side, good movement, cross and goal. The defending could and should have been better, there was no challenge or marking, to make it as hard as possible.
His kicking in comparison to 50p foot Maxwell ( who knows where the ball will go) is sublime. He does make the odd kicking error, and did a couple in this game, generally it is when he is rushed into it.
He has come out for a few crosses, and taken some hits doing so, this will give him some confidence. It’s a balance for keepers in knowing when and when not to come and try to claim it, and that only comes with game time.
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I think the problem, to an extent, is his anticipation. The Wigan lad was going to cross as McGrath had come across to block his progress. If he anticipates it, he probably gets there before Wyke. After all, if you watch his movement, his first step was forward, then he hesitated and that was that!
The fact that his first movement was forward is a giant leap for his progress, as previously, he has always stripped back to his line.
But if anticipates the cross going to Wyke and it goes to the back post instead we’re all hammering him on here saying he’s in no man’s land.
Think jmt means Mitchell. Yes absolutely
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If any goalkeeper can anticipate a cross before it leaves the players boot, then they would be walking on water.
As I have said Louis has improved a lot, still can improve more. He is going in the right direction. And let’s remember, he is still young.
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sorry yes 50p foot Mitchell
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Two moments of quality in the game were the quality crosses and headers by both teams. The only difference was Molyneux made the space for his cross by his own endeavour, the Wigan player had all the time in the world to deliver his ball so the only player at fault for me is whoever should have been tracking him.
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He would not have got there in time. It was a cross whipped in with pace, near post and right on to Wyke’s head. No chance.
100% this.
All goals are preventable aren’t they, especially with hindsight.
Looking at our goal in the same game, everyone is praising Molyneux for a great cross and Bailey for putting away a very good header.
No one is talking about there being two defenders trying to cut out the cross or the fact that Bailey beat a defender to the ball, or that their keeper should have done better as he actually got a hand to the ball.
Maybe if the keeper had anticipated better he could have stood next to the post and would have just had a straightforward catch.
As jmt23 said, sometimes you have to give credit to the team that scores the goal.
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Yes he was good tonight, but his overall performances are poor, not L2 quality
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He’s got better stats than Alex Cairns this year, who we all (myself included) wanted in the summer. And we’re in an almost identical league position to Salford.
Yes there’s better but he will continue improving IMO he has a good attitude.
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He’s got better stats than Alex Cairns this year, who we all (myself included) wanted in the summer. And we’re in an almost identical league position to Salford.
Yes there’s better but he will continue improving IMO he has a good attitude.
What stats are these please?
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He would not have got there in time. It was a cross whipped in with pace, near post and right on to Wyke’s head. No chance.
Once the cross is coming in it’s Olowu’s job to shepherd Wyke and at least get the right side or bare minimum make it harder for him to get the header on target.
Louis was good with crosses v Newport so hopefully he is improving in that regard. I know he’s not perfect but we’ve got the 2 goalies we have now for this season and next.
Camps you rated Mitchell, surely you think Jones is an upgrade?
Mitchell was far better on crosses no question.
Louie is much better with distribution. Both were or are good shot stoppers.
Mitchell made some really bad errors in the latter part of last season due to losing confidence. That I blame totally on both Danny Schofield for his terrible tactics and the abuse from supporters which demoralised him and probably the entire team.
So imo take your pick. Mitchell kept us from getting some hammerings in the 1st half of the season.
There are many it seems with short memories. Also many who wanted a scapegoat and Mitchell was the unfortunate one who was on the end of some unacceptable abuse.
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He’s got better stats than Alex Cairns this year, who we all (myself included) wanted in the summer. And we’re in an almost identical league position to Salford.
Yes there’s better but he will continue improving IMO he has a good attitude.
What stats are these please?
League 2 stat comparison this season
Clean sheets:
Jones 4 in 18
Cairns 7 in 27
Saves/ save percentage:
Jones 47/73 64%
Cairns 69/117 59%
Saves per 90:
Jones 2.71
Cairns 2.56
Goals conceded/per 90:
Jones 26/1.5
Cairns 48/1.78
XG Conceded:
Jones 21.9
Cairns 44.1
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He’s got better stats than Alex Cairns this year, who we all (myself included) wanted in the summer. And we’re in an almost identical league position to Salford.
Yes there’s better but he will continue improving IMO he has a good attitude.
What stats are these please?
League 2 stat comparison this season
Clean sheets:
Jones 4 in 18
Cairns 7 in 27
Saves/ save percentage:
Jones 47/73 64%
Cairns 69/117 59%
Saves per 90:
Jones 2.71
Cairns 2.56
Goals conceded/per 90:
Jones 26/1.5
Cairns 48/1.78
XG Conceded:
Jones 21.9
Cairns 44.1
Cairns has been dreadful this season. I was dead against us signing him. For the last 3-4 years I’ve been an advocate of signing Alex Bass. Think I even recommended him to Graham Younger. He’s a quality keeper, now on loan at Wimbledon. Another very good, low profile, fairly cheap player I’ve recommended to the club that passed us by. He was warming Pompeys bench at the time.
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We have not 1 decent goalkeeper in our squad, Repeat not 1
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We have not 1 decent goalkeeper in our squad, Repeat not 1
Do we have 2?
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Every time a goalkeeper makes a mistake and goal is scored he’s under the spotlight and blamed, but a striker could miss five great chances and score the sixth and nothing is said. The same reasoning can be used in cricket with a bowler being hit for successive boundaries but then getting a wicket with a catch on the boundary
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He's only played 8 games, and conceded 9 goals. What's your evidence based on?
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Like that he’s clearly worked a lot on his distribution. Not that it was bad before I just don’t remember it been anything to talk about. In his time on the bench he’s obviously looked to improve himself.
Give me hope he will work on coming off his line a bit as that’s the only worry I have with him. Overall I think he’s coming along nicely
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He's only played 8 games, and conceded 9 goals. What's your evidence based on?
I’ve seen improvements in Jones and I’m happy enough to see how he goes for the rest of the season, but if you’re just using goals conceded per game as your comparison then that (1.125 for Smith) is much better than Jones’ (1.44).
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He's only played 8 games, and conceded 9 goals. What's your evidence based on?
Is there a direct correlation between how many goals a keeper concedes and how good they are?
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Is 8 games a good yardstick to judge anyone's ability?
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Is 8 games a good yardstick to judge anyone's ability?
Not sure where you get your numbers from. He’s played 50 games.
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Well what is our wage structure by comparison to the other 23 clubs in league 2
It’s top 10 as far as we were told. I suspect next season it will be top 6/7 at least.
I would reckon there will be 15/20 keepers better than Louie Jones in this league.
Harrogate Town have just re signed James Belshaw from Bristol Rovers.
Having seen him play many times in Harrogate’s rise from National League North to league 2 I can say with some authority he is a far better keeper than Louie Jones.
Don’t tell me we could not afford to offer him a higher wage than Harrogate.
Our problem now is we have 2 keepers under contract I think for 1 & 2 seasons after this one.
We need to off load one of them if we can and recruit a top keeper, one who is going to help us get promoted.
I don’t think either of our 2 keepers are good enough to earn us the extra 15/20 points a really good keeper would. Those points are possibly the difference between being top 3 and finishing outside the play off places.
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Camps, I might be wrong but wasn’t our wage budget quoted as 14th highest.
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Okonkwo is probably the best keeper in the league but not realistic, and on loan anyway.
A realistic loan would be Leban from Everton, currently at Farsley but he's definitely too good for that level.
Is Will Dennis at Kilmarnock realistic?
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Well what is our wage structure by comparison to the other 23 clubs in league 2
It’s top 10 as far as we were told. I suspect next season it will be top 6/7 at least.
I would reckon there will be 15/20 keepers better than Louie Jones in this league.
Harrogate Town have just re signed James Belshaw from Bristol Rovers.
Having seen him play many times in Harrogate’s rise from National League North to league 2 I can say with some authority he is a far better keeper than Louie Jones.
Don’t tell me we could not afford to offer him a higher wage than Harrogate.
Our problem now is we have 2 keepers under contract I think for 1 & 2 seasons after this one.
We need to off load one of them if we can and recruit a top keeper, one who is going to help us get promoted.
I don’t think either of our 2 keepers are good enough to earn us the extra 15/20 points a really good keeper would. Those points are possibly the difference between being top 3 and finishing outside the play off places.
He did alright in 21/22 but has been meh since, perhaps because he's 33 now. Very little between Jones and Belshaw this season at shot stopping, Jones is the better passer.
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He’s got better stats than Alex Cairns this year, who we all (myself included) wanted in the summer. And we’re in an almost identical league position to Salford.
Yes there’s better but he will continue improving IMO he has a good attitude.
What stats are these please?
League 2 stat comparison this season
Clean sheets:
Jones 4 in 18
Cairns 7 in 27
Saves/ save percentage:
Jones 47/73 64%
Cairns 69/117 59%
Saves per 90:
Jones 2.71
Cairns 2.56
Goals conceded/per 90:
Jones 26/1.5
Cairns 48/1.78
XG Conceded:
Jones 21.9
Cairns 44.1
Cairns has been dreadful this season. I was dead against us signing him. For the last 3-4 years I’ve been an advocate of signing Alex Bass. Think I even recommended him to Graham Younger. He’s a quality keeper, now on loan at Wimbledon. Another very good, low profile, fairly cheap player I’ve recommended to the club that passed us by. He was warming Pompeys bench at the time.
There were 2 guys at the Wimbledon game who seemed to be there purely to abuse Bass, they seemed to go at half time when the teams turned round-seemed strange
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He would not have got there in time. It was a cross whipped in with pace, near post and right on to Wyke’s head. No chance.
Once the cross is coming in it’s Olowu’s job to shepherd Wyke and at least get the right side or bare minimum make it harder for him to get the header on target.
Louis was good with crosses v Newport so hopefully he is improving in that regard. I know he’s not perfect but we’ve got the 2 goalies we have now for this season and next.
Camps you rated Mitchell, surely you think Jones is an upgrade?
Mitchell was far better on crosses no question.
Louie is much better with distribution. Both were or are good shot stoppers.
Mitchell made some really bad errors in the latter part of last season due to losing confidence. That I blame totally on both Danny Schofield for his terrible tactics and the abuse from supporters which demoralised him and probably the entire team.
So imo take your pick. Mitchell kept us from getting some hammerings in the 1st half of the season.
There are many it seems with short memories. Also many who wanted a scapegoat and Mitchell was the unfortunate one who was on the end of some unacceptable abuse.
If Mitchell was as good as you think he is, do you not think he would be doing better than 3rd choice at a League Two club? Maybe the majority were right and he just isn’t good enough.
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Jones has improved significantly in the last few seasons. Whether he can keep doing this and get to a consistently good level is another question but he is one of the very few players in the squad who is on an upward trajectory. We don’t tend to add value to players these days. Jones is an outlier really.
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He would not have got there in time. It was a cross whipped in with pace, near post and right on to Wyke’s head. No chance.
Once the cross is coming in it’s Olowu’s job to shepherd Wyke and at least get the right side or bare minimum make it harder for him to get the header on target.
Louis was good with crosses v Newport so hopefully he is improving in that regard. I know he’s not perfect but we’ve got the 2 goalies we have now for this season and next.
Camps you rated Mitchell, surely you think Jones is an upgrade?
Mitchell was far better on crosses no question.
Louie is much better with distribution. Both were or are good shot stoppers.
Mitchell made some really bad errors in the latter part of last season due to losing confidence. That I blame totally on both Danny Schofield for his terrible tactics and the abuse from supporters which demoralised him and probably the entire team.
So imo take your pick. Mitchell kept us from getting some hammerings in the 1st half of the season.
There are many it seems with short memories. Also many who wanted a scapegoat and Mitchell was the unfortunate one who was on the end of some unacceptable abuse.
If Mitchell was as good as you think he is, do you not think he would be doing better than 3rd choice at a League Two club? Maybe the majority were right and he just isn’t good enough.
Nick I didn’t say he was good enough.
I said he was better on crosses than Louis Jones.
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I agree with Scawsby Steve about the extreme way Mitchell was criticised and his weakness/indecision with his distribution. The fact that this is the main strength of Jones’s game is significant.
And I’m afraid that this is where my view differs. And those fans who like him seem to feel the need to nurture him which contrasts with the feelings they display towards other players who make mistakes. This is completely different from how they came down on Mitchell and other recent loan goalkeepers when they made very obvious blunders. But the fact that he seems likeable and a local academy product is very much in his favour.
He does not make very obvious blunders though because he takes no risks, preferring the safe options, like staying on his line and not even trying to dive or jump for balls which he thinks he cannot be sure to get to, or is too slow to even react to. Consequently the phrase “Jones had no chance” is frequently heard. I wonder how often it would be more appropriate to say “Jones gave himself no chance”. Reaction time is the key and he is slow in this respect. Is he really brave, another quality a GK needs? The evidence does not seem to be there. Nor do we see him organising the defence, imposing his presence. He often seems passive in dealing with crosses. He is frequently just behind the defenders flapping at the ball as it passes close by when perhaps he should be amongst them claiming it.
The best save I’ve seen him make recently was the decisive Wigan penalty. There he was able to decide in advance which way he was going to dive and he did so, simultaneously with the kick. As was reported, he “guessed” right.
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I just love all the comments from these amazing goalkeeping coaches
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Mitchell making an error coming for a corner (did similar against Bradford but completely missed it)
https://youtu.be/MggVTqdPl4k?si=6RfiRsenmxBi3J8Z
Mitchell’s shot stopping was worse than Jones’. Making a spectacular camera save was more than cancelled out by stuff like this.
https://youtu.be/YchlKfmQht8?si=2754BmsJWCz0d020
Or this
https://youtu.be/AVqvLu2rEBY?si=FoFIi73-VUCAoQY9
None of these were “taking risks” they were just getting the basics painfully wrong.
Until Jones starts doing stuff like this we cannot talk about them in the same breath.
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Is 8 games a good yardstick to judge anyone's ability?
Not sure where you get your numbers from. He’s played 50 games.
Not for Walsall he hasn't. My numbers are from Transfermarkt, which is a reliable site. Go and check yourself.
The 8 games I quoted were league games from this season. He's also played some cup games, and played in 2 games on loan last season. His total stats for Walsall are 17 games played, 25 goals conceded.
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He's only played 8 games, and conceded 9 goals. What's your evidence based on?
I’ve seen improvements in Jones and I’m happy enough to see how he goes for the rest of the season, but if you’re just using goals conceded per game as your comparison then that (1.125 for Smith) is much better than Jones’ (1.44).
If you look at my revised post, with figures from Transfermarkt, Smith's overall stats are actually 1.47.
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Is 8 games a good yardstick to judge anyone's ability?
Not sure where you get your numbers from. He’s played 50 games.
Not for Walsall he hasn't. My numbers are from Transfermarkt, which is a reliable site. Go and check yourself.
The 8 games I quoted were league games from this season. He's also played some cup games, and played in 2 games on loan last season. His total stats for Walsall are 17 games played, 25 goals conceded.
Number of goals conceded depends largely on what's in front of you. He overperforms his expected goals against. Louis underperforms his.
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I agree with Scawsby Steve about the extreme way Mitchell was criticised and his weakness/indecision with his distribution. The fact that this is the main strength of Jones’s game is significant.
And I’m afraid that this is where my view differs. And those fans who like him seem to feel the need to nurture him which contrasts with the feelings they display towards other players who make mistakes. This is completely different from how they came down on Mitchell and other recent loan goalkeepers when they made very obvious blunders. But the fact that he seems likeable and a local academy product is very much in his favour.
He does not make very obvious blunders though because he takes no risks, preferring the safe options, like staying on his line and not even trying to dive or jump for balls which he thinks he cannot be sure to get to, or is too slow to even react to. Consequently the phrase “Jones had no chance” is frequently heard. I wonder how often it would be more appropriate to say “Jones gave himself no chance”. Reaction time is the key and he is slow in this respect. Is he really brave, another quality a GK needs? The evidence does not seem to be there. Nor do we see him organising the defence, imposing his presence. He often seems passive in dealing with crosses. He is frequently just behind the defenders flapping at the ball as it passes close by when perhaps he should be amongst them claiming it.
The best save I’ve seen him make recently was the decisive Wigan penalty. There he was able to decide in advance which way he was going to dive and he did so, simultaneously with the kick. As was reported, he “guessed” right.
That was my comment, not SS
I was replying to SS
Your summary of Louis Jones is the best one I have read on this forum. You are 100% correct imo on everything you have said.
As a goalkeeper myself ( yes 50 yrs ago ) I study keepers very closely and Louis is what I call a very passive goalkeeper.
I seriously wonder about Kyle Letheren’s coaching credentials. If you look at his playing record it is not very
impressive.
That doesn’t in itself make him a poor coach of course but when I look at Jones and Lawlor I do wonder what he is working on with them in training.
Both have glaring weaknesses and I am seeing no improvement on those weaknesses as the season has progressed.
The fact is the saves Louie makes are ones he should be making as a professional footballer. It is what he doesn’t do well that is costing us goals week in week out. Yes it would help if we had a very commanding experienced centre back in front of him, that imo is without question.
A fully fit Richard Wood this season would have made a massive difference to our points tally and goal difference.
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50 years ago at what level, for who? We may have played against each other
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50 years ago at what level, for who? We may have played against each other
Northern intermediate League for York City 1973/74
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Nah best I managed back then was Yorkshire league with Broddie
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He turned down a contract offer from Walsall and has joined Barnsley on a 4 year deal.
Have to say, that was a very good shout.
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He turned down a contract offer from Walsall and has joined Barnsley on a 4 year deal.
Have to say, that was a very good shout.
Thanks. Don’t think he was even playing for Walsall when I put that up.
Good, cheap players that nobody has even heard of are everywhere. They can be found without even leaving your bed if you wanted.
Any credit from Scawsby? In your own time…
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Upton and Camps. Name us one League 2 keeper who's better than Louie, within our wage structure, and up for availability soon.
In your own time.
Jackson Smith Walsall.
He turned down a contract offer from Walsall and has joined Barnsley on a 4 year deal.
Have to say, that was a very good shout.
Thanks. Don’t think he was even playing for Walsall when I put that up.
Good, cheap players that nobody has even heard of are everywhere. They can be found without even leaving your bed if you wanted.
Any credit from Scawsby? In your own time…
Well done, Gaz. Good call. Mind you, you're not one of the posters who continually slaughtered Louis after every game.
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Appreciate that most of them were 6 months ago but some incredibly romantic opinions on this thread, TLT came in and reminded us of what a proper keeper is, nothing personal we just need to be aiming much higher than Jones if we want to be competitive. I dare say if we let him go it wouldn’t be to a league club, would be good for him to spend a season on loan in the conference I’d say and reevaluate from there