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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: turnbull for england on May 06, 2024, 09:13:42 pm
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Sod it ,I'm going to ask
Last time we went to Wembley I went on. Iggy's bus like the old days , any chance they will be running again should the gods align Friday?
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no way we f**k this up from here - we're staying south of the river in Vauxhall on the Satdi night - where's everyone else heading for if they're staying in town - curry and beers required.....
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What I do know if we get there is that I’m sitting with the great unwashed. Behind the goal - low down.
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I’d rather not tempt fate and mention the W place, I can think it but no mention
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What I do know if we get there is that I’m sitting with the great unwashed. Behind the goal - low down.
you make it sound as if there's an option which might not involve sitting with the great unwashed :lol:
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I'm sorry lads. I'm superstitious but I did it. Booked flights from Dublin to Gatwick and out of Heathrow Sunday evening. F it. Could be double the price next weekend. €230. Just in case, I'm going to put €10 or €20 on Crewe to win the second leg at 16/1 to cover my wallet in case of a bottle job
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What time is your return flight? I ask because the KO time for the play off final hasn't been determined yet!
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It’s 1pm.
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That's just changed tonight then - less than an hour ago the KO was showing as TBD.
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EFL confirmed this on their website two days ago for League One (4.15pm) and League Two (1pm) but not for Championship (TBD).
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Why 1pm I wonder. Not a great time that.
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Final round of EPL games are at 4pm that day. It’s a TV timing decision.
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EFL confirmed this on their website two days ago for League One (4.15pm) and League Two (1pm) but not for Championship (TBD).
I had been looking at the BBC website.
It was always going to be either 1pm or 6pm to avoid clashing with the PL fixtures.
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
Get a flight booked
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Remember when we put a special train on? What’s the chances??
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John Ryan’s Express
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It’s 1pm.
Looked up before I booked. Decent time for me. Have to give time in case of penalties. Flying back at 8.10
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
Get a flight booked
A bit pricy from San Diego!
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1pm is a shit ko time.
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
Get a flight booked
A bit pricy from San Diego!
Did you see the Crewe San Diego flag in their end? Would have been good if we'd had one too!
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
Get a flight booked
A bit pricy from San Diego!
Did you see the Crewe San Diego flag in their end? Would have been good if we'd had one too!
I'm booked! Likely gonna get a Canadian one done
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1pm… clearly EFL couldn’t care less about if a team from up north makes it to the final.
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Players will stay close by.
Only a 3 hour drive 4 on the coach so set off at 7 in morning get there with 2 hours to go no problem
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John Ryan’s Express
That was for Cardiff though and the one I was on definitely was the opposite. Of “ express “ lol
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
5am's a lie in for me! Normally 2-4am. 1 pm perfect - it will be a midnight special.
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f**k me… that’s an early start for me then. 5am kickoff…
5am's a lie in for me! Normally 2-4am. 1 pm perfect - it will be a midnight special.
5am. Luxury. Could be four yorkshire man.
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Remember Peterborough last season 4-0 up after first leg play off.
It’s nice to dream but we still have a game to play to get through.
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Think I’ll stop at the Premier Inn by The Cheswold on the Saturday night rather than get up at ridiculous o’clock, hit traffic, road works or an over turned potato wagon & have to ‘short cut it’ through ploughed fields with the sat nav urging ‘Turn back where possible’!!
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John Ryan’s Express
That was for Cardiff though and the one I was on definitely was the opposite. Of “ express “ lol
We went on a mini coach from pub in balby, with traffic and driver hour stops we didn't get back till gone midnight horrible trek home
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What’s the going rate for PO final tickets ? £20£
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I expect it will be more.
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What’s the going rate for PO final tickets ? £20£
Usually they have different pricing depending on where the seat is. But, as it’s unlikely the top tier will be needed I wonder if this will standardise the price a bit more?
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Cheapest adult ticket in 2022 was £26
https://www.mansfieldtown.net/news/2022/may/wembley-sky-bet-league-two-play-off-final-ticket-information/#:~:text=Cat%201%20%2D%20%C2%A360%20Adults,Young%20Adult%2C%20%C2%A319%20Conc.
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£40 -£60+ for the 2023 playoff
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Just booked travel lodge at Wembley £80 3 man room plus 3 car parking
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£40 -£60+ for the 2023 playoff
Fairly outrageous prices imo.
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
Just push your way on, no one would ever know.
Jk
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
The prices have gone up so much for coaches to wembley, expect no less than £50
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
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It will be my tried and tested Stanmore station for me.
Being L2 and 1pm KO, i assume there will be plenty of spaces. Crawley fans wouldnt use it. Not sure how many MK would take, or if they would use it.
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
The prices have gone up so much for coaches to wembley, expect no less than £50
For just the coach?
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if we get there, im also cosidering parking at stanmore, however, can i ask the london locals a question about the tube journey. Stanmore is in zone 5, wembley park is in zone 4, ive an oyster card, but some of the lads coming havnt so will have to get a day ticket, do you just select zone 4, and that works for all zones beyond there??
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if we get there, im also cosidering parking at stanmore, however, can i ask the london locals a question about the tube journey. Stanmore is in zone 5, wembley park is in zone 4, ive an oyster card, but some of the lads coming havnt so will have to get a day ticket, do you just select zone 4, and that works for all zones beyond there??
Probably easiest to tap your card in and out on the tube.
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
The prices have gone up so much for coaches to wembley, expect no less than £50
Crawley was only 30 quid, why would wembley be almost double, ?
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Wembley is not in the ULEZ Zone
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if we get there, im also cosidering parking at stanmore, however, can i ask the london locals a question about the tube journey. Stanmore is in zone 5, wembley park is in zone 4, ive an oyster card, but some of the lads coming havnt so will have to get a day ticket, do you just select zone 4, and that works for all zones beyond there??
Probably easiest to tap your card in and out on the tube.
sorry, do you mean your bank card, I've a vague memory of someone saying that works?
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Wembley is not in the ULEZ Zone
my apologies , not ulez, but what every they are calling the expanded zoning.. does it stop at the north circular or is the M25 the boundary now?
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Wembley is not in the ULEZ Zone
my apologies , not ulez, but what every they are calling the expanded zoning.. does it stop at the north circular or is the M25 the boundary now?
Not sure about that, theres a govt website with all the details
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if we get there, im also cosidering parking at stanmore, however, can i ask the london locals a question about the tube journey. Stanmore is in zone 5, wembley park is in zone 4, ive an oyster card, but some of the lads coming havnt so will have to get a day ticket, do you just select zone 4, and that works for all zones beyond there??
Probably easiest to tap your card in and out on the tube.
sorry, do you mean your bank card, I've a vague memory of someone saying that works?
Any contactless payment method works - I used my debit card on my phone last time. It’s cheaper than buying a ticket and there’s a daily cap cheaper than a travel card..
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Wembley is not in the ULEZ Zone
It is, unfortunately.
https://www.wembleystadium.com/plan-your-visit/getting-to-wembley
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Thanks. I’ve only got a little car with a little engine so it passes the test!
https://motorway.co.uk/ulez-checker?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20327802157&utm_content=152187495313&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwouexBhAuEiwAtW_ZxzjI6vFM_4OchG28MugvardWY597GBM3ERMQaG9cFUnqSKMNfLjh5xoC0lwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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There’s a big shopping centre at white city, can park there and get the tube to Wembley. Looks like it takes about 45 mins and you need to change. Or I usually park at the other Westfield centre at Stratford. It’s the other side of London but for me it’s easier to get to being only a short drive from the end of the M11. Then an hour on the jubilee tube line, no changes..
IF we get there..
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
don't forget ulez charge if applicable?
Wembley is not in the ULEZ Zone
my apologies , not ulez, but what every they are calling the expanded zoning.. does it stop at the north circular or is the M25 the boundary now?
I stand corrected ULEZ was extended in August last year to include Wembley
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There’s a big shopping centre at white city, can park there and get the tube to Wembley. Looks like it takes about 45 mins and you need to change. Or I usually park at the other Westfield centre at Stratford. It’s the other side of London but for me it’s easier to get to being only a short drive from the end of the M11. Then an hour on the jubilee tube line, no changes..
IF we get there..
No tube. There is London Overground from Shepherd’s Bush (right next to Westfield) and as you say, you have to change at Willesden Junction to another London Overground train to get to Wembley Central.
And there is scheduled engineering works on that route on Sunday 19 May.
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There’s a big shopping centre at white city, can park there and get the tube to Wembley. Looks like it takes about 45 mins and you need to change. Or I usually park at the other Westfield centre at Stratford. It’s the other side of London but for me it’s easier to get to being only a short drive from the end of the M11. Then an hour on the jubilee tube line, no changes..
IF we get there..
I'll stick with stanmore, only a 10 mins tube to wembley:-)
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Just booked 5 hours parking on someone’s driveway in Wembley for £25. Worth looking at on yourparkingspace (it’s not counting my chickens as I paid an extra £2 for flexible cancellation).
I’ve found a decent spot near Wembley £30, but I don’t want to jinx us, decisions decisions?
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Can we just get over the tie first. Crewe still have a chance
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I'm looking at going by train and tube should we make the final. Can anyone with previous Wembley experience confirm with a 13.00pm kick off that the 17.48pm train back from Kings Cross allows enough time should the game go all the way to pens?
I'm thinking as long as we're on the tube by 16.45pm we should be ok but I haven't been to Wembley before. Is there something I've not factored in like the walk to the tube station or potential for queues or having to wait for a tube train because the one that arrives is full?
Didn't fancy it for a variety of reasons when we beat Leeds and no my old dad has never forgiven me. He's 80 soon and not in the best health so it could be our last chance to go together!
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Should be fine. MK Dons clearly won’t be bringing numbers Leeds did so getting out will be easier.
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
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MK ‘Dons’ fans will just steal your space anyway mate.
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Reading most clubs in recent history have outsourced ticket sales for play-off finals to companies like ticketmaster. Do you think rovers would do the same?
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Reading most clubs in recent history have outsourced ticket sales for play-off finals to companies like ticketmaster. Do you think rovers would do the same?
makes sense, a week to organise 20 plus thousand tickets, you could only imagine the queue at the ticket office,
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Reading most clubs in recent history have outsourced ticket sales for play-off finals to companies like ticketmaster. Do you think rovers would do the same?
makes sense, a week to organise 20 plus thousand tickets, you could only imagine the queue at the ticket office,
Our lot love queuing.
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With likelihood of thousands of day trippers who haven't gone to a game forever. Can we at least sort it so that a couple of sections behind the goal are allocated for those who do go. The fans were great again last night but no chance of spread all over 40k seats and 3 tiers.
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Agreed, in my opinion, the singing or partizan section of our support should be behind the goal in the lower tier at wembley
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Reading most clubs in recent history have outsourced ticket sales for play-off finals to companies like ticketmaster. Do you think rovers would do the same?
makes sense, a week to organise 20 plus thousand tickets, you could only imagine the queue at the ticket office,
Our lot love queuing.
We queued up for Leeds tickets, how many did they sell , 20,000+
The club is used to sorting and selling tickets now
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Agreed, in my opinion, the singing or partizan section of our support should be behind the goal in the lower tier at wembley
McCann seems to be making a point of it lately as well and the difference it makes
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MK ‘Dons’ fans will just steal your space anyway mate.
What makes you think we'll be playing MK Dons?
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With likelihood of thousands of day trippers who haven't gone to a game forever. Can we at least sort it so that a couple of sections behind the goal are allocated for those who do go. The fans were great again last night but no chance of spread all over 40k seats and 3 tiers.
How many would we take realistically? Bottom tear holds 35k at Wembley.
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I reckon 15k will go. Price of getting there and ticket will stop some going I imagine.
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I reckon 15k will go. Price of getting there and ticket will stop some going I imagine.
Train prices are mental really. Definitely will put people off.
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I reckon 15k will go. Price of getting there and ticket will stop some going I imagine.
Train prices are mental really. Definitely will put people off.
My mate has just paid £30 for a family railcard. 4 adults and 1 child works out at £55 pp.
I don't think that's bad at all
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If we do make it, and if as looks very likely, Crawley make it, then Wembley is going to be about a third full.
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Happy to take all comers on the over 15k bet. All proceeds to the academy.
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It’s a very rough estimate but in 2008 we took 24,000, which was 3x our average gate that season of 8,000 (it’s rough because that included away fans but is the only metric available). Our average home gate this season is 7,000 so a 3x multiplier would give you 21,000. Crawley’s average home gate this season is 4,000 so a 3x multiplier gives you 12,000. Together that’s 33,000. About a third full.
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What a great sight Chris, 21k Doncastrians in Wembley.
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There’s a big shopping centre at white city, can park there and get the tube to Wembley. Looks like it takes about 45 mins and you need to change. Or I usually park at the other Westfield centre at Stratford. It’s the other side of London but for me it’s easier to get to being only a short drive from the end of the M11. Then an hour on the jubilee tube line, no changes..
IF we get there..
No tube. There is London Overground from Shepherd’s Bush (right next to Westfield) and as you say, you have to change at Willesden Junction to another London Overground train to get to Wembley Central.
And there is scheduled engineering works on that route on Sunday 19 May.
If the overground has engineering works, the tube will still be ok. Bit of a faff going back towards London then out again, but it’s easy and relatively inexpensive parking.
Only issue with the tube is it will be busy after the game finishes, but ideal if folks are spending some time in town too..
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Thanks Filo. I’ve just booked
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I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
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I've taken a gamble on us getting there - reserved Wembley Asda car park via JustPark. Pay their rate and you don't get a PCN for staying longer than the shop normally allows. Just the other side of Wembley Park tube and on a main road off the north circular. Less than £20 to park between 1100-1700 hrs.
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Roughly how much would it be on supporters coach to Wembley?
£55 flat rate for all ,plus say £45 per ticket it will price a few people out of going
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I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
Trains are practically sold out. Not a chance now that supporters coaches have been announced at £55
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I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
Trains are practically sold out. Not a chance now that supporters coaches have been announced at £55
It is £55 for coaches
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I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
Trains are practically sold out. Not a chance now that supporters coaches have been announced at £55
We took 24000 vs Leeds at wembley, with the bumfight for coaches and train tickets, added to the fact the tickets going off sale a week before the match.
Our fan base has grown alot since aswell, it could be closer to 30k in reality.
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Our average gate in the 2007/08 season was 8,000. This season it is 7,000. Our fan base has declined by 1,000 on average since then, not increased.
Even if you factor in the late season uptick in form driving higher gates, Accrington was 6,900, Walsall was 6,500, Forest Green was 7,000.
Yes people like to see successful teams and yes there is a lot of chatter on here about getting tickets, but the marginal fan that will have to make up the difference between c.7000 and the 20,000 to 25,000 to take to Wembley isn’t going to be on here.
We will take good numbers but don’t underestimate the impact of several seasons of rubbish. That side in 2007/08 had seen a number of seasons of success immediately prior, including going to a cup final the season before. We’ve been on a downward spiral for five years.
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Our average gate in the 2007/08 season was 8,000. This season it is 7,000. Our fan base has declined by 1,000 on average since then, not increased.
Even if you factor in the late season uptick in form driving higher gates, Accrington was 6,900, Walsall was 6,500, Forest Green was 7,000.
Yes people like to see successful teams and yes there is a lot of chatter on here about getting tickets, but the marginal fan that will have to make up the difference between c.7000 and the 20,000 to 25,000 to take to Wembley isn’t going to be on here.
We will take good numbers but don’t underestimate the impact of several seasons of rubbish. That side in 2007/08 had seen a number of seasons of success immediately prior, including going to a cup final the season before. We’ve been on a downward spiral for five years.
Agreed. Plus our last trip to Wembley included a number of infiltrators from the whites, friends and foes.
Like you, I can't see the evidence to suggest the fan base has increased. I hope I'm wrong although if McCann can ignite our progression then who knows, but it going to something to break that long term scepticism that sees our attendances fluctuate perhaps more than our local rival clubs.
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There are a whole new cohort of fans that were either too young or not born since we beat Leeds
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They’ll be 13,000+ in attendance on Friday, I reckon you could easily double that figure for a trip to Wembley.
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If it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!
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If it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!
Crawley have a much smaller fan base than we do.
Yes our ave is 7.100 this season but it looks like 12500 to 13.000 home fans are turning up on Friday.
We have a huge number of shall we call it glory hunter / get on the success bandwagon supporters.
We will take at least 20.000 to Wembley.
The cost though will be prohibitive to many I fear. Travel and tickets combined is going to be very expensive.
It is going to be a minimum of £75 to £100 + per person for ticket and travel.
This is a very expensive day out for a family of 4/5
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I'm confident we'll take 25000 if we get there.
Trains are practically sold out. Not a chance now that supporters coaches have been announced at £55
If it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!
Crawley have a much smaller fan base than we do.
Yes our ave is 7.100 this season but it looks like 12500 to 13.000 home fans are turning up on Friday.
We have a huge number of shall we call it glory hunter / get on the success bandwagon supporters.
We will take at least 20.000 to Wembley.
The cost though will be prohibitive to many I fear. Travel and tickets combined is going to be very expensive.
It is going to be a minimum of £75 to £100 + per person for ticket and travel.
This is a very expensive day out for a family of 4/5
OK I get that not everyone drives or has a car, but maybe folks can blag a lift off their mates who do?
There's 3 of us, possibly 5, who for a variety of reasons haven't been this season but would be going to Wembley. We only need the one car.
I wouldn't call additional family/friends of regular fans glory hunters either. For a variety of reasons I've been to few games since the pandemic, before that was a ST holder since 2006.
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Social Media can come into its own here with lift sharing offered etc. getting to Wembley doesn’t have to be expensive if people club together
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
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When I say glory hunters, I mean it in the politest way. :)
My son in law will be going to Wembley but he only goes to a handful of league games.
My daughter would go if she could but is at a dancing competition that my granddaughter is at that weekend.
Can’t persuade my wife to go though. Just a TV glory hunter ;)
Yes there are a large number of family members that will go along to this match with the family members who are die hard fans.
Just a foot note as I don’t want to jinx it.
WE ARE NOT AT WEMBLEY YET. :that:
Quietly confident. YES
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
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It’d be interesting to know how many fans we have on the system with purchase history. I’m sure we have fans that would go to more games if they could but can’t for various reasons, cost, work, kids etc.
You could try and work out the number of “day trippers” at Wembley by subtracting our fans with purchase history from the number attending.
I think the majority of those that go to Wembley will be “real fans” rather than those just out for a one off trip.
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The majority of those going on Friday night will either be season ticket holders or regular attendees. Next up are the engaged part-timers. Once you get past that group you are running into thinner territory.
Yes people like a day out at Wembley and to be associated with success, but the marginal fan over that 10,000 is going to have to shell out around £100 per person and get down to Wembley without being a regular at doing this or likely attending our games. That’s a lot to ask people who aren’t engaged.
The marginal fan is a difficult beast to understand, and people shouldn’t think the first 10,000 (season ticket holders, engaged part-timers) are anything like the next 10,000 (god only knows what these people are like). We have high engagement at the front end and much lower engagement at the back end.
Those incremental fans over 10,000 will be harder to convince to shell out and go to Wembley. Not impossible, but harder.
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If it’s us and Crawley in the final we’ll outnumber them, which isn’t a bad effort to say they’re 120 miles closer to Wembley than we are!
Crawley have a decent following within the Chelsea support group. They get Chelsea at home games due to tickets not being available at Stamford bridge .id imagine they would attract a few of them
To Wembley. It’s a cheap day at Wembley compared to an f a cup final.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
It will be a short day on the piss with a 1pm kick off
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The majority of those going on Friday night will either be season ticket holders or regular attendees. Next up are the engaged part-timers. Once you get past that group you are running into thinner territory.
Yes people like a day out at Wembley and to be associated with success, but the marginal fan over that 10,000 is going to have to shell out around £100 per person and get down to Wembley without being a regular at doing this or likely attending our games. That’s a lot to ask people who aren’t engaged.
The marginal fan is a difficult beast to understand, and people shouldn’t think the first 10,000 (season ticket holders, engaged part-timers) are anything like the next 10,000 (god only knows what these people are like). We have high engagement at the front end and much lower engagement at the back end.
Those incremental fans over 10,000 will be harder to convince to shell out and go to Wembley. Not impossible, but harder.
Why the assumption that folks would need to pay £100 each? Not everyone will rely on coach or trains to get there. Is there a shortage of cars in and around Doncaster?
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The majority of those going on Friday night will either be season ticket holders or regular attendees. Next up are the engaged part-timers. Once you get past that group you are running into thinner territory.
Yes people like a day out at Wembley and to be associated with success, but the marginal fan over that 10,000 is going to have to shell out around £100 per person and get down to Wembley without being a regular at doing this or likely attending our games. That’s a lot to ask people who aren’t engaged.
The marginal fan is a difficult beast to understand, and people shouldn’t think the first 10,000 (season ticket holders, engaged part-timers) are anything like the next 10,000 (god only knows what these people are like). We have high engagement at the front end and much lower engagement at the back end.
Those incremental fans over 10,000 will be harder to convince to shell out and go to Wembley. Not impossible, but harder.
Why the assumption that folks would need to pay £100 each? Not everyone will rely on coach or trains to get there. Is there a shortage of cars in and around Doncaster?
Exactly, I will be filling my car (4 people) and parking at Stanmore. Bet that works out £60-£70 in fuel and parking for 4 of us. Although CBCB was likely including the match ticket in that £100.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category.
The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
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Plus if you park near the stadium there's no tube costs either.
If folks want some time in London as well, so be it. Some will go down on Saturday and make a weekend of it, and why not!
We still need to get through friday first, but no harm in planning.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I'm in my mid thirties and remember being in school in the early noughties and I could have counted on both hands the number of lads who supported Rovers. Majority were bigger local clubs or Premier League clubs.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category.
The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
I'm in my late 40's and started going in the early 90's, mostly misery for years but was season ticket holder until 2008 when I moved away. I'm only an hour and a half away but since having kids etc and wife working Saturdays for years I only make a few games a season now but still watch the goals go in and keep up to date on here and on socials. Certainly class myself as a full time fan but a very rare attendee, when I do come I usually bring my dad who has attended many games over the years without having more than a passing interest and my lad comes too these days so we will make up three of the extra number. i guess there will be a few in my bracket.
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The age of DRFC supporters has been a regular topic in the meetings I've had with the club over the years.
If you look at our ST holders you will see that the larger numbers are either 60+ or under 18's. That's quite a problem building for the club. The lack of numbers in that middle ground is obviously the result of the Richardson years and the very poor performances of the club leading up to that also. The heyday, if you want to call it that, was in the mid to late '60's where most of our current support were younger supporters in those days, me included.
The club have done well in attracting the younger element as ST holders in recent years but that begs the question of can we keep them? Will they grow up and bring their kids? Or will they, because of changing tastes, move on to other activities? Will Doncaster as a City keep them here fully employed?
All questions that we don't know the answers to. But what we do know is that the generation of older supporters that currently make up the largest part of our ST base isn't going to be there for much longer, me included.
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That's really interesting stuff SM, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the club see a significant drop off at age 24/25 where the pricing jumps up to the full adult price or is our retention rate at that point pretty good?
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Thanks for sharing this Filo. Just quoting you to bump the link again for others. I've just booked my spot here too....pretty sure this is exactly where I parked for the Leeds match...history repeating itself?
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Thanks for sharing this Filo. Just quoting you to bump the link again for others. I've just booked my spot here too....pretty sure this is exactly where I parked for the Leeds match...history repeating itself?
No problem the refund bit sealed the deal for mee
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category.
The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
I'm in my late 40's and started going in the early 90's, mostly misery for years but was season ticket holder until 2008 when I moved away. I'm only an hour and a half away but since having kids etc and wife working Saturdays for years I only make a few games a season now but still watch the goals go in and keep up to date on here and on socials. Certainly class myself as a full time fan but a very rare attendee, when I do come I usually bring my dad who has attended many games over the years without having more than a passing interest and my lad comes too these days so we will make up three of the extra number. i guess there will be a few in my bracket.
That was my journey also. Started going at schooo when crowds were sub-2000. For more than a decade it was absolute shite and continuous failure. How we got from Belle Vue to the Keepmoat and Wembley is almost unfathomable. As grim as the conference years were, it was the decade prior that was worse. No direction, running on fumes and crowds struggling over 1000.
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That's really interesting stuff SM, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the club see a significant drop off at age 24/25 where the pricing jumps up to the full adult price or is our retention rate at that point pretty good?
No, we can retain them. Its 16+ that becomes the problem, leaving for university and other reasons seems to b ethe major issue. Will they come back? Not if the jobs in the area remain elusive.
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That's really interesting stuff SM, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the club see a significant drop off at age 24/25 where the pricing jumps up to the full adult price or is our retention rate at that point pretty good?
No, we can retain them. Its 16+ that becomes the problem, leaving for university and other reasons seems to b ethe major issue. Will they come back? Not if the jobs in the area remain elusive.
Yeah that's why I was wondering, 16 and 18 are major points of change in people's lives where other things can get in the way of football as you've said, but if we were seeing a significant drop off at 24/25 that would suggest that price is the main issue - the fact that ISN'T the case is a positive, at least :)
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Young people have had a terrible deal the last decade. Forking out for a season ticket however competitively priced is going to be an issue especially when they go from being a teenager to a 20-something. Only so much the club can do - get the Tories out to do the rest.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
I'd be interesting in seeing a study of this too.
Had to hold myself back from saying a lot of things in someones Facebook status yesterday, a Barnsley fan from Donny saying 'where have all these Rovers fans come from? They've not been seen for the last 16 years'. 2 brothers piped up (one supports Leeds, and the other Blades [bonkers, I know]) saying it's laughable that they've all crawled out the woodwork.
I grew up a stones throw away from these 2 brothers, and cannot really remember any similar aged kids from our area wearing Rovers shirts in the late 90s. Only really started seeing Rovers shirts in the early 00's by the time i'd reached secondary school. For me, this time of the late 90s is where we missed out on a generation of fans.
Great to see so many more young'uns out and about in Rovers shirts nowadays, we're back on the up again!
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category.
The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
36 and started going in 2002 myself not long after moving back to Doncaster. Got my first season ticket when we were promoted to division 3 and had one ever since.
BUT, as SM alludes to the 4 of us that go together of a similar age are in a minority and all of us have actually lived outside Doncaster quite a lot since. It's really difficult to stay in Doncaster post school if you're in any sort of academic fields etc as there's just not the opportunity and frankly other places are better places to live as a youngster. I now for the first time actually live and work in Doncaster which is good but there's not a huge amount of opportunities, much more further afield. The rest of the guys who went with us as youngsters have largely moved a long way away.
The only way that changes is by making big strides forward as a now city and I don't see that appetite enough from the politicians and council in this area.
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I’m 46 and been going regularly since 1991. A few of us from school used to go but most lost their way. Out of our group only @bigbadjack still goes when he can be bothered
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I'm in my mid thirties and remember being in school in the early noughties and I could have counted on both hands the number of lads who supported Rovers. Majority were bigger local clubs or Premier League clubs.
Similar boat here. Then from about 2004-10 everyone was seemingly interested, and then it gradually dropped off again, to the point where now I don't really know that many from my age group that actively support Rovers or are a regular attendee any more.
I know the current situation has heightened interest, but I really hope some if it sticks, and at least a percentage become regulars. It would be great to see the ground fuller on a more regular basis and I'm sure it would help the club's finances.
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
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Looks like they are using a 3rd party ticket site, 100% digital sales only, makes sense due to timescales...
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
£55 to stand up ffs.
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
£55 to stand up ffs.
At least there's no t**t telling you to sit down
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
Not enough. Sensible option now is anyone wanting this just buy a cat4 or 5 ticket
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On the part of keeping younger school leavers in Doncaster hopefully the airport and the airship company coming to carcroft will be able to offer the jobs people need so they don't have to leave to the so called big cities for jobs
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
Not enough. Sensible option now is anyone wanting this just buy a cat4 or 5 ticket
Imagine a Wembley crowd where everyone is sat up in the gods?
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Thanks for sharing this Filo. Just quoting you to bump the link again for others. I've just booked my spot here too....pretty sure this is exactly where I parked for the Leeds match...history repeating itself?
Cheers for the link Filo, had a good look around and this one looks ok,a bit dearer than most others but looks safe for my Ferrari.! Booked it.
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
Not enough. Sensible option now is anyone wanting this just buy a cat4 or 5 ticket
Imagine a Wembley crowd where everyone is sat up in the gods?
Going by the last league 2 final they only opened the bottom and middle tier. Probably no need for top tier opening. If it does I imagine it will be last
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Bolton just released pricing. Their cheapest available is £30. Noticed Wembley now has a safe standing section officially named behind the goal now
867 safe standing section
Not enough. Sensible option now is anyone wanting this just buy a cat4 or 5 ticket
Imagine a Wembley crowd where everyone is sat up in the gods?
Going by the last league 2 final they only opened the bottom and middle tier. Probably no need for top tier opening. If it does I imagine it will be last
Is the middle tier not Club Wembley? Or isn’t that a thing at the playoffs? I sat in there for the Euro Semi final.
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probably not all of it.
I looked at the Bolton tickets page, the middle tier starts from £59.
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One thing that really stood out to me at Crewe was the demographic of our support that day. Certainly the highest percentage of 20-40 year olds I’ve ever seen at a Donny match. Historically it was generally the case of either really old or really young.
It’s probably this age group that are likely to bring a few more “day trippers” along with them for a day in London on the piss.
I’d certainly like to look at the data of our supporter base since we were promoted back into the football league, it would make an interesting study.
This is something I've always been aware of. I'm 37 and when you look around, I wouldn't put a high proportion of our fan base in the 30-40 year old bracket. The reason? The mid-nineties and Richardson didn't help, additionally this generations parents probably supported other clubs. Further, SKY bringing the Premier League into everyone's homes in 1992 didn't help either.
I’m 40 and started going in the 90s. There aren’t too many that fall into that category.
The ones that started going 20 years ago, when things improved, are just creeping into their early 30s now.
I’m 46 and been going regularly since 1991. A few of us from school used to go but most lost their way. Out of our group only @bigbadjack still goes when he can be bothered
My dad who's from town only moved Lincs in the mid to late 1979's took me to my first match in 1992, I was 13 and have been a regular ever since, well up to 2020.
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92/93 was a magical season. Brady, Jeffrey, Hicks and Eddie Gormley. Talent throughout that side. Shame nobody there to see it.
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The best news is that under 16s and over 65s are 50% off the adult price if we have the same pricing as Bolton.
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92/93 was a magical season. Brady, Jeffrey, Hicks and Eddie Gormley. Talent throughout that side. Shame nobody there to see it.
My first game was Hereford at home when Brady first appeared on loan from Sunderland and won and scored the penalty to win the game. I can't remember Stuart Hicks being a significant talent, but i loved Eddie Gormley. Him and Steve Prindiville on that left side could both hit a free kick.
I was the same, big group of lads from school in Retford who have all drifted away since.
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Car park refund applied for :crying: :crying:
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Car park refund applied for :crying: :crying:
I need to do the same. We were asking for trouble weren’t we?
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Well I’ve just reserved a parking spot here https://www.wembleycarparking.org.uk/secure-parking
A refund given up to a day before, 5-10 min walk to stadium, fill ya boots before any potential opponents get in there
Car park refund applied for :crying: :crying:
I need to do the same. We were asking for trouble weren’t we?
Yep, I’ll take the blame, knew I shouldn’t have tempted fate
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Went to the bookies to collect my dirty winnings this morning. €320. Flights cost €200 so that's a little something