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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: tommy toes on May 26, 2024, 07:13:37 am
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Just the thing to attract right wing elderly dyed in the wool Tory voters, who yearn to return to the good old days of the 1950s.
Give them yobs some backbone.
Cue a mad rush of 18 year olds desperate to vote Labour.
Wise move Rishi.
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I wonder if any of these dyed in the wool Tory voters will ask themselves “Where is the infrastructure for all this going to come from?”.
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
So are you saying they only become yobs when they’re 18 BB?
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No. What makes you think that?
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
I have two teenage sons that are not yobs, they dont roam the streets, but hey, lets put them all in uniform.
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No. What makes you think that?
Your post.
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
I have two teenage sons that are not yobs, they dont roam the streets, but hey, lets put them all in uniform.
I've not said I agree with it. I've said there are people other than dyed-in-the-wool Tories who will, though.
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
What yobs? if they are yobs who would want them 'helping out' in the NHS?
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
I know they don’t. That’s why it’s futile.
If you knew your history you’d know that gangs of kids roaming the streets up to no good has been going on for hundreds of years.
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No. What makes you think that?
The National Service being proposed is for 18 year olds.
Old men of every generation have said something along the lines of “the youth of today are bad” but the world keeps spinning.
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Also they’ve said that there will be no criminal charges for those who don’t do it.
If we take the extreme hypothetical of an 18-year old knife-wielding drug dealer, I don’t think you’re gonna get them to turn up to make cups of tea in a care home.
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Yobs, if you can't serve in the army, try one of these ...........
''The proposals would see a “bold new model of national service” for 18-year-olds that could see them opt to spend one weekend per month volunteering in roles such as special constable, RNLI volunteer, or NHS responder. Officials claimed it would give young people “real world skills, while contributing to their country and community”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/sunak-promises-to-bring-back-national-service-for-18-year-olds
There could be a 'Yob a bob week'
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Whilst it would be very unfair to generalise the younger generation as lazy and workshy, as very many are not, there are many who are. Not deliberately, IMHO, but you do get some who appear to think that society owes them something, rather than having to work for it. I see some at work who simply don't care, and lack a lot of self discipline.
As an ex-military person of some years, I don't disagree with some principles behind national service, in that it should instil discipline and work ethic in the young generation.
As said, many don't need it, and there are lots of amazing young achievers and hardworkers out there.
I don't think it should be a political thing though.
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
I know they don’t. That’s why it’s futile.
If you knew your history you’d know that gangs of kids roaming the streets up to no good has been going on for hundreds of years.
It’s probably at its lowest rate in hundreds of years!
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Yobs, if you can't serve in the army, try one of these ...........
''The proposals would see a “bold new model of national service” for 18-year-olds that could see them opt to spend one weekend per month volunteering in roles such as special constable, RNLI volunteer, or NHS responder. Officials claimed it would give young people “real world skills, while contributing to their country and community”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/sunak-promises-to-bring-back-national-service-for-18-year-olds
There could be a 'Yob a bob week'
All of which need specialised training, they can’t just turn up!
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Yobs, if you can't serve in the army, try one of these ...........
''The proposals would see a “bold new model of national service” for 18-year-olds that could see them opt to spend one weekend per month volunteering in roles such as special constable, RNLI volunteer, or NHS responder. Officials claimed it would give young people “real world skills, while contributing to their country and community”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/sunak-promises-to-bring-back-national-service-for-18-year-olds
There could be a 'Yob a bob week'
Isn't that currently known as community service, ie a sentence handed out for misdemeanours??
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Dyed in the wool Tory voters don't need attracting. Maybe there are plenty of voters from all colours who would like to see the back of yobs roaming the streets, though.
I know they don’t. That’s why it’s futile.
If you knew your history you’d know that gangs of kids roaming the streets up to no good has been going on for hundreds of years.
I know my history TT. Not long back in history, there were people on this forum complaining about yobs acting like morons among the Rovers followers. I'm sure those complaining weren't all dyed-in-the-wool Tories.
Maybe one or two of those complainants would like to see them conscripted?
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Yobs, if you can't serve in the army, try one of these ...........
''The proposals would see a “bold new model of national service” for 18-year-olds that could see them opt to spend one weekend per month volunteering in roles such as special constable, RNLI volunteer, or NHS responder. Officials claimed it would give young people “real world skills, while contributing to their country and community”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/sunak-promises-to-bring-back-national-service-for-18-year-olds
There could be a 'Yob a bob week'
Isn't that currently known as community service, ie a sentence handed out for misdemeanours??
Special Constable? RNLI? NHS Responder? When have these been part of a community service sentence?
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Not those specifically, I was more generalising about the idea of "volunteering" to contribute to the community, rather than the specific roles. Of course some roles aren't for offenders.
I think the alternative of weekend volunteering is a waste of time, if you have national service, do it via the military as a real alternative to unemployment. Working folks and students exempt.
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Where is the infrastructure to monitor this IDM?
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Yobs, if you can't serve in the army, try one of these ...........
''The proposals would see a “bold new model of national service” for 18-year-olds that could see them opt to spend one weekend per month volunteering in roles such as special constable, RNLI volunteer, or NHS responder. Officials claimed it would give young people “real world skills, while contributing to their country and community”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/25/sunak-promises-to-bring-back-national-service-for-18-year-olds
There could be a 'Yob a bob week'
Isn't that currently known as community service, ie a sentence handed out for misdemeanours??
Quite possibly, but who gets the gig to pick out the 'yobs' from the rest?
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Where is the infrastructure to monitor this IDM?
No idea, but perhaps could be linked to benefit claims, after a significant period of time unemployed?
I don't think our military currently has the infrastructure to work this anyway. It's just my perspective of what National Service could mean if it were to happen.
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Given the age of the last conscripts today would be 82, how many advocating National service would have actually done it, and know anything about it?
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Nothings changed…
The historian Geoffrey Pearson quotes a 60-year-old named Charlotte Kirkman, who lamented that, “I think morals are getting much worse... There were no such girls in my time as there are now. When I was four or five and twenty my mother would have knocked me down if I had spoken improperly to her”. Kirkman was speaking in 1843, as part of an investigation into the bad behaviour of contemporary youth. Lord Ashley, speaking in the House of Commons in the same year, argued that “the morals of the children are tenfold worse than formerly”.
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This half-arsed idea has 'thought bubble' written all over it. No planning, no money, no proof of concept.
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Nothings changed…
The historian Geoffrey Pearson quotes a 60-year-old named Charlotte Kirkman, who lamented that, “I think morals are getting much worse... There were no such girls in my time as there are now. When I was four or five and twenty my mother would have knocked me down if I had spoken improperly to her”. Kirkman was speaking in 1843, as part of an investigation into the bad behaviour of contemporary youth. Lord Ashley, speaking in the House of Commons in the same year, argued that “the morals of the children are tenfold worse than formerly”.
This shows that everyone thinks the world was best when they were a teenager
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Most 18 year olds want to contribute in some way. Give them an option that is fair (paid) and it could be a huge boost in many areas. But not without big funding.
I'd do something like paying for it with a 1% social levy on wealthy pensioners as a community contribution. I'd also pay it through local not central government budgets.
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Most 18 year olds want to contribute in some way. Give them an option that is fair (paid) and it could be a huge boost in many areas. But not without big funding.
I'd do something like paying for it with a 1% social levy on wealthy pensioners as a community contribution. I'd also pay it through local not central government budgets.
Why not a levy on high earners and millionaires?
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I reckon more people would get behind National Service as a punishment, for example, police arrest someone for a lesser crime, carrying a weapon, assault, theft... Then they should be charged with time serving in the military and where they would learn discipline and assist with lowering over crowding in prisons. You don't need to enforce it on the 99% of young people who just want to learn/work and keep their heads down.
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Over the decades,youth crime has spiked at the same time as child poverty.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens when we get a fresh batch of military-trained 19-year-old yobs released back onto the streets every year.
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.
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My two years in the sea cadets cured me of sea sickness.
My stint in the Parachute Regiment cured me of my fear of heights.
My days as a submariner………don’t hold your breath.
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No. What makes you think that?
The National Service being proposed is for 18 year olds.
Old men of every generation have said something along the lines of “the youth of today are bad” but the world keeps spinning.
This.
I saw an article a couple of years ago that set out comments throughout history by old folk complaining about young folk's behaviour. The earliest one was from Ancient Greece.
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12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
Christ almighty.
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12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
Christ almighty.
That’s a ‘Carry On’ film I’d pay to watch!
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12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
Christ almighty.
Is this for men too, I thought it was only for women?
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Cleverly (sic) this morning.
There won't be any criminal sanctions on people who refuse National Service.
So what are they going to do? Make refusers do Community Service?
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https://x.com/carryonkeith/status/1794649417246781805
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The constant belief they “young people these days are useless” and need kicking into shape is just an atrocious one isn’t it.
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It is Gaz.
But history suggests there's always been a significant minority of old folk in every generation who sign up to it.
Imagine spending your final years hating other people's kids...
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12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
Christ almighty.
Is this for men too, I thought it was only for women?
They wouldn’t be in my Platoon, that lot would be digging Latrines!
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Well you all seem to be pulling our young folks down, I am sure there is a tranche of 60 k of each school year, who would make excellent National Service personnel, who on completing their 12 months would be eligible for the Police, Firebrigade, Nursing and Local council jobs, or maybe a Fee free Degree course! A percentage may stay on in their Arm of service ! As for the Yobs they should be made to do their own Form of National service digging Latrines
In ex colonial countries where the locals are completely incapable of digging their own latrines.
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I reckon more people would get behind National Service as a punishment, for example, police arrest someone for a lesser crime, carrying a weapon, assault, theft... Then they should be charged with time serving in the military and where they would learn discipline and assist with lowering over crowding in prisons. You don't need to enforce it on the 99% of young people who just want to learn/work and keep their heads down.
This is along the same train of thought that I have.
Just don’t let them go to McMillan afternoon tea events unsupervised.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C7bvCpPoEdo/?igsh=NWd3ZXNrMTF2NHh2
3 days ago, the Under Secretary for defence said there were no plans to reintroduce National Service and gives the reason for that.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C7bvCpPoEdo/?igsh=NWd3ZXNrMTF2NHh2
3 days ago, the Under Secretary for defence said there were no plans to reintroduce National Service and gives the reason for that.
Yeah but three days ago was a different Universe. There were still people in the Tory party thinking Sunak was actually capable of campaigning effectively.
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I reckon more people would get behind National Service as a punishment, for example, police arrest someone for a lesser crime, carrying a weapon, assault, theft... Then they should be charged with time serving in the military and where they would learn discipline and assist with lowering over crowding in prisons. You don't need to enforce it on the 99% of young people who just want to learn/work and keep their heads down.
Unfortunately with the police, justice and prison systems in a mess ...............
''Police are being instructed to consider making fewer arrests because of the lack of space in prisons. A letter from the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) circulated last week urges chief constables to think about "pausing" so-called "non-priority arrests".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2274gdk10o
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I reckon more people would get behind National Service as a punishment, for example, police arrest someone for a lesser crime, carrying a weapon, assault, theft... Then they should be charged with time serving in the military and where they would learn discipline and assist with lowering over crowding in prisons. You don't need to enforce it on the 99% of young people who just want to learn/work and keep their heads down.
Unfortunately with the police, justice and prison systems in a mess ...............
''Police are being instructed to consider making fewer arrests because of the lack of space in prisons. A letter from the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) circulated last week urges chief constables to think about "pausing" so-called "non-priority arrests".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2274gdk10o
Conscript them into the army too. Now there's an idea lol
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I reckon more people would get behind National Service as a punishment, for example, police arrest someone for a lesser crime, carrying a weapon, assault, theft... Then they should be charged with time serving in the military and where they would learn discipline and assist with lowering over crowding in prisons. You don't need to enforce it on the 99% of young people who just want to learn/work and keep their heads down.
Unfortunately with the police, justice and prison systems in a mess ...............
''Police are being instructed to consider making fewer arrests because of the lack of space in prisons. A letter from the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) circulated last week urges chief constables to think about "pausing" so-called "non-priority arrests".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2274gdk10o
Then they'll just carry on doing as they're doing.
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And the finance according to Notso will be coming from the Levelling Up fund
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I think it's a great idea.
Cut the numbers and funding for the professional armed services, close their bases and instead get a load of untrained young people who don't want to be there, with no-one to train them and nowhere to base them, to defend the country instead. What could possibly go wrong.
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Will these young people be paid, after all some of the positions Notso listed are paid or does Compulsory voluntary cover it?
Wonder what Rich-ies girls think about this mindst you doubt they could get called up from California
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This is not a rebirth of 'Big Society' that was also going to ............. ?
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I'm not sure this works on a practical level.
18 year olds going into higher education must volunteer their weekends to the nation?
Many in higher education rely on paid work at the weekend to make their studies possible, these days.
Those not going into higher education have to join the army for a year but not on a full salary? This is an attempt to bolster the armed forces on the cheap.
I can't see this coming to pass, even if the Tories were to retain power somehow.
It does look like a back of the fag packet idea, brain stormed yesterday afternoon to try and attract back Reform voters.
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Fit and able long-term unemployed is a tiny proportion of the population now.
Very few are unemployed for longer than twelve months these days. They represent the natural turnover in the workforce.
Of the very few left who are long-term unemployed, it's a fair bet a good proportion are over 55 and facing discrimination in the work place.
Beyond that, there are probably a very few with undiagnosed mental health problems.
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Fit and able long-term unemployed is a tiny proportion of the population now.
Very few are unemployed for longer than twelve months these days. They represent the natural turnover in the workforce.
Of the very few left who are long-term unemployed, it's a fair bet a good proportion are over 55 and facing discrimination in the work place.
Beyond that, there are probably a very few with undiagnosed mental health problems.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52660591
https://www.health.org.uk/evidence-hub/work/employment-and-underemployment/trends-in-unemployment-and-long-term-unemployment
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.
That's a very well thought idea DD.
Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.
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DD those figures back up my point. Only 1.2% of the population are unemployed. A historically low level.
Of that group, most are only out of work for twelve months or less.
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.
That's a very well thought idea DD.
Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.
Not sure who Nab Nesbitt is, but its good to see your comprehension skills are still right up there.
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DD those figures back up my point. Only 1.2% of the population are unemployed. A historically low level.
Of that group, most are only out of work for twelve months or less.
That historically low figure does not include the 1.7m of the economically inactive who want a job.
Did you click on the "Reasons people are not in work graphic and click the "wants a job tab"
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12 months could be worse than life in prison for murder, just imagine sharing a barracks with 18year old Billy ST, Kato, Glyn and Syd in your platoon.
Christ almighty.
I come from a naval family but don't worry, you're safe. I wouldn't be accepted.
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DD no I didn't start clicking on tabs and researching other things.
I was just reacting to the figures you presented.
I can't see the link but I assume those 1.7m who would like to work don't need to and aren't claiming benefits. The early retired and so on. People who aren't easily coerced into work they do not want to do.
Provide the link and I'll react to it.
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Yes Minister said it all
https://x.com/PickardJE/status/1794479406766784548?t=b1sAseLzblqmJnR1T8UQOQ&s=19
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.
That's a very well thought idea DD.
Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.
Not sure who Nab Nesbitt is, but its good to see your comprehension skills are still right up there.
I could of done better.
Back to the point I made,or are you going to go off on one of your
Mr Angry Gammonfaced
of Danum.
?
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What do people think about fit and able, long term unemployed?
Would an initiative of a similar nature have an effect in reducing this cohort?
Individuals in education, training, apprenticeships and work are already catered for.
That's a very well thought idea DD.
Rather then go for 18 year olds,let's recruit Frank Gallagher and Nab Nesbitt.
Not sure who Nab Nesbitt is, but its good to see your comprehension skills are still right up there.
I could of done better.
Back to the point I made,or are you going to go off on one of your
Mr Angry Gammonfaced
of Danum.
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You made a point, in one of your posts!
Give over.
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Somebody find the Bed wetter his Dummy ?
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Globalists seeking to control the younger population with this BS just like with covid 19.
Sunak and the rest of them should send their kids to any ridiculous wars
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Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.
Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.
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Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.
Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.
I think you guys will be quite safe, the only danger would be to yourselves. The plans has been written off by most.
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Covid 19 was to control the youth.??
Give me strength..
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Covid 19 was to control the youth.??
Give me strength..
control everyone I'll correct myself if it makes you feel better.....
One of a few on here that seem to have an attitude problem when it comes to people giving an opinion if you don't agree with something.
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Attitude problem.? Grow up.
Disagreeing isn’t having an “attitude problem”. I was merely pointing out the futility in you argument about covid 19 “controlling” people. If we hadn’t had such control, many more 1000s would have died. In fact the government f**ked it by not clamping down soon enough.
Or was that all fake news.?
Apologies if I misread your meaning but that’s how it comes across to me.
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Getting back on topic, if you read the analysis of the national service proposals, very few would join the military and they are suggesting they are looking for the best people. Surely they would have got jobs or university places anyway. Plus it wouldn’t deliver in the course of the next parliament.
It’s not the national service idea I would be in favour of! Very weak election gimmick.
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That’s all they have left, cheap tricks and baiting
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Just listening to a talking head promoting this national service business on the radio.
All the benefits he lists about meeting new people, teamwork. All that young people already get from further and higher education. They all go through this now.
If they are worried about Putin, and they should be, then a serious response would be invest more in the military and recruit more professional personnel.
The national service proposal is electioneering and not serious. Sunak will drop it as quick as he's dropped Rwanda and the smoking ban.
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In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have
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Bloody hell, me, BB, and Wolfie have just got our call up papers.
Those b*st*rd Tories have really got it in for us young'uns.
Postage delays eh! No worries, Napoleon got mashed anyway.
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In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have
The main issue is the military side of Sunak's first bonkers exposure of this election. I hear the next policy is creating a great white shark enclosure in the Channel.
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The Tories think tank are definitely watching re runs of Yes Prime Minister
https://x.com/YesPMQuoter/status/1794560983379177615?t=2RbkKB6OdUXiDiK02vBCOA&s=19
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In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have
That's the problem with the old dial-up connections
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In 2009 this didn’t seem to exercise people in this forum as much as the latest interpretation of it seems to have
How strange that that proposal hasn’t been mentioned on here.
#allthesame perhaps.
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The idea of compulsory military service proving somewhat problamatic in Northern Ireland then:
https://x.com/BelTel/status/1794967143768895774
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I'd like someone to step up and name some big promises that the tories or tories plus libdems have made and followed through to the end that has benefitted the majority or the country.
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Google is your friend.
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Google is your friend.
And Google says 'f**k all'. It really is our friend!
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This has to be the most bat-shit crazy policy proposal that I’ve ever heard in my life! National service ended in 1960 and you don’t have to do too much research to read how incredibly unpopular it was at the time.
What the hell are the government trying to achieve with this? Do they genuinely think that anyone in their right mind would accept it?
Rather than introducing national service, they should increase support of the Armed Forces through better pay and conditions and that’ll maybe stop so many leaving the services?
I wonder which voter demographic they’re looking to appeal to?
And you could bet your bottom dollar that Rishi & Jacob’s kids won’t find themselves as cannon fodder in any war.
Utter madness.
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''I wonder which voter demographic they’re looking to appeal to?''
The reform party voter HA
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I think you are right there Syd.
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Just listening to a talking head promoting this national service business on the radio.
All the benefits he lists about meeting new people, teamwork. All that young people already get from further and higher education. They all go through this now.
If they are worried about Putin, and they should be, then a serious response would be invest more in the military and recruit more professional personnel.
The national service proposal is electioneering and not serious. Sunak will drop it as quick as he's dropped Rwanda and the smoking ban.
Certainly my experience of higher education was far from that. My university didn't care much for any of that, of course that may well have changed.
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The National Service thing is resulting in some quite spectacularly stupid takes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/28/national-service-lockdown-furlough-thank-you/
If the Tories were to win the Election, let's say, after the Royal Inquiry they say they'd hold into the issue, National Service might just get started by 2029.
People turning 18 by then would have been 10 when furlough ended.
The youngest people who might have benefitted from furlough would be at least 24 by then, and hopefully settling into productive careers.
My own company benefitted from furlough. It saved the job of one colleague who will be 69 by the time 2029 comes along. Should he do National Service as a thank you?
It's just a magnet for stupid, authoritarian opinions.
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Just listening to a talking head promoting this national service business on the radio.
All the benefits he lists about meeting new people, teamwork. All that young people already get from further and higher education. They all go through this now.
If they are worried about Putin, and they should be, then a serious response would be invest more in the military and recruit more professional personnel.
The national service proposal is electioneering and not serious. Sunak will drop it as quick as he's dropped Rwanda and the smoking ban.
Certainly my experience of higher education was far from that. My university didn't care much for any of that, of course that may well have changed.
The options are there for anyone at university to get involved in a myriad of activities and meet people from all sorts of backgrounds and cultures. That comes from the individual, not from universities telling you how to do it. Are you really saying you spent years at university and didn't meet anyone different or get involved in any extra-curricula activities?
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The National Service thing is resulting in some quite spectacularly stupid takes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/28/national-service-lockdown-furlough-thank-you/
If the Tories were to win the Election, let's say, after the Royal Inquiry they say they'd hold into the issue, National Service might just get started by 2029.
People turning 18 by then would have been 10 when furlough ended.
The youngest people who might have benefitted from furlough would be at least 24 by then, and hopefully settling into productive careers.
My own company benefitted from furlough. It saved the job of one colleague who will be 69 by the time 2029 comes along. Should he do National Service as a thank you?
It's just a magnet for stupid, authoritarian opinions.
That link is covered by a paywall so I am unable to read it, but does anyone seriously think a 69 years old person would be called up for National Service?
Really !!
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TBH I don’t think he was serious about a 69 year old having to do national service..
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Neither do I IDM but that is the type of post that he does make to try to make a point.
I’m just not sure what the point is though.
Maybe posting a link that isn’t behind a paywall would make it clear.