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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on August 17, 2024, 05:15:55 pm
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That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart.
I think we are going to be relying on Kelly being the next Craig.
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Anyone know if we'd already drawn Everton in the cup last time we played at Newport? Minds elsewhere?
That would be a terrible indictment on the professionalism of the players and the management. It’s only the League Cup for heavens sake.
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Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.
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Christ. Bit of an overreaction. Poor second half but let’s not get carried away.
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No, we were not at it! They were a big physical and fast team, and that highlighted how far some of the lads were off it. Passes were not strong enough, tackles were half hearted and we dithered on the ball.
We were not as poor as last year though, we had chances, and made the wrong choices - I am certain a few will get a shellacking from Grant.
There was an attitude of” do you know who we are” today, that needs stamping out, and replacing with the hard graft we showed at the back end of last season.
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I think it’s a bit of an overreaction, new team, new season.
Stockport got 5 points from their first 6 games last season and then won the title
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Not worrying too much about this. I think it’s good that some weaknesses were highlighted so they can be nipped in the bud.
Take the loss and lessons from it
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Not worrying too much about this. I think it’s good that some weaknesses were highlighted so they can be nipped in the bud.
Take the loss and lessons from it
A sensible post.
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Long old season. But there are structural imbalances in the team that you just can't ignore. Fullbacks that are prone to letting players drift by them. Anderson and Wood who are fine if everything is in front of them (well Anderson completely missed the header for the 3rd goal but usually fine) but struggle in other circumstances and then, today, three central midfielders (Broadbent, Bailey and Clifton) who are all steddy eddies but rarely take the game by the scruff of the neck.
Anyway, what surprised me was our attacking players, who, after their final two goals, kind of dissapeared. Alot of overhit crosses, miss touches and a lack of urgency which I don't think McCann will be happy with.
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Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.
Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.
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No, we were not at it! They were a big physical and fast team, and that highlighted how far some of the lads were off it. Passes were not strong enough, tackles were half hearted and we dithered on the ball.
We were not as poor as last year though, we had chances, and made the wrong choices - I am certain a few will get a shellacking from Grant.
There was an attitude of” do you know who we are” today, that needs stamping out, and replacing with the hard graft we showed at the back end of last season.
The last paragraph. He needs to play hardball with the players from the off, that 2nd half was nowhere near good enough, against a side virtually just put together. They got in our faces & we fell apart, remeniscent of the past few seasons. Kelly & Fleming surely have to start next week.
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Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.
Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.
Yes, you predicted a 3-0 win and we lost 3-1. Almost exactly 100pc wrong.
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Massive over reaction from some supporters on here, we huffed and puffed but looked 2nd best all over the pitch. Could still be playing now and fail to score. It gives McCann plenty to work on this week, personally I'd drop Anderson for Oluwo as well. If anybody expected us to walk this league think again
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That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart.
I think we are going to be relying on Kelly being the next Craig.
I’m not too worried. Tuesday, Saturday away games are never easy. Especially first week of the season. I know we made changes but it’s the disruption in prep, travel, late night etc that have the impact. They scored a couple of decent goals but weren’t great.
We will win next week.
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We gave away some silly goals and the heads went a bit when the game state changed, but it wasn’t as bad overall as some are making out. First half was ok. Improvements to be had for sure but not the time to panic.
Misery loves company though so the reaction from some isn’t surprising.
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I'm not going overboard about this, but I think it's legitimate to have some concerns.
Don't forget how absolutely key the three January loans were to last season's miracle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if we have replaced them with players of a similar standard.
McCann seems to rate Broadbent in the Craig role, but I am sceptical. Today was very reminiscent of what we looked like for 30 matches last season until we found a midfielder who could take on the press and make it irrelevant.
Kelly showed some signs of being able to do that in his cameo today. We're going to need someone to do it.
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Close, westbrooke, Kelly will all comfortably do what craig did with the ball around the press.
Off the ball I’m not sure but we don’t need to worry about players being good enough to take the ball under pressure when we have those 3
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I haven't read 1 post that's been an overeaction, not one. I have enjoyed reading posters thoughts on on the game & how we played though. I reckon that's what a forum is about.
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Play it cool until game 34, then go for it.
Crikey I had hoped we’d seen the last of weak, boys v men performances like that.
Hey ho, let’s get it going for Morcambe. Another club we still owe a beating.
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I thought Broadbent was good first half. He and Clifton were pretty solid. Lots to work on though because we got bullied second half. Sbarra against their hefty lads was a big ask.
Thought the ref was inconsistent. Not blaming him for the loss but Wildig went through the back of Bailey and it was a clear yellow. Whitmore was another repeat offender. And Bailey was booked for a much lesser crime.
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I thought Broadbent was good first half. He and Clifton were pretty solid. Lots to work on though because we got bullied second half. Sbarra against their hefty lads was a big ask.
Thought the ref was inconsistent. Not blaming him for the loss but Wildig went through the back of Bailey and it was a clear yellow. Whitmore was another repeat offender. And Bailey was booked for a much lesser crime.
Not looking for excuses, but it looked like a foul on Moly for their first goal and the third looked offside to me, although the defending wasn't great. Their 2nd goal was a great hit. The stats say we had 21 shots to their 12, of which 8 on target to their 5. There will be days when things go our way and days when they don't.
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There was no midfield General ,which is what Craig developed into though we have in the squad Close and Westbrooke who have the experience and technique to do that .The only player who gave of his best today was Owen Bailey Mr Reliable .I would not have headed the thread Worryingly Bad BST
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As much as those stats say we were unlucky, Newport were better than us today, in a few areas. As I said before poor choices cost us today.
Grant was keen to state on Tuesday he wanted to put last years Newport performance right. I think he will be a little annoyed at the team and maybe himself.
I thought Owen was poor today, great goal, but poor overall, almost a nothing performance from him. Midfield needs some work by Grant.
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It’s 1 defeat. We move on
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We’ve been poor for one half of football.
We haven’t been destroyed for 90 mins, we haven’t had players or management looking clueless or not interested…we’ve just been poor for one half.
I don’t think it was worryingly bad.
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If we were consistent every week these players would be at higher levels, we shouldn't forget that.
Of course we need to now win next week and get back at it. We're still miles ahead of this time last year.
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Christ. Bit of an overreaction. Poor second half but let’s not get carried away.
Agree let's not over react either way
We are not going to be Invincibles now and I never thought we would but possibly ( almost certainly ) GM and his Staff will have learnt a lot today and demand and get improvement from this group of players
I trust them to do that
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Losing possession in poor areas of the pitch. Moly should not be trying to run with the ball in that area. Managing the game away from home is different and you have to do whatever it takes to kill the home teams momentum. Stop the game, boot it into row Z etc.
Yes, we looked a bit weak in the tackle whereas Tuesday we looked strong. Their second strike was a corker mind.
Third was a shocker from our back line.
As others have said, learn from the mistakes and don't forget about the good stuff. Maybe a couple of players need reminding it's a team game and they can't always be the match winners.
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Worryingly bad is a little melodramatic i'd say.
Early season game, new players to bed in, some players been given slightly different roles to perform.
We were second best for most of this game and it's a wakeup call for the squad. For all their running and bluster we gave them 2 easy goals through some slack play, the other goal was good.
If anyone thought we could just steamroller this league as a carry over from last season then its just been blown away, and that includes some of the players who gave a poor performance from what we know they can do.
Best get it out of the way early, the squad now know that if they are not on it then this is the type of result to expect.
Something for the squad as well as GM to think about, some work to do this next week.
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Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.
Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.
Yes, you predicted a 3-0 win and we lost 3-1. Almost exactly 100pc wrong.
Did you think we would lose 3-1 then?
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Newport are our bogey side especially at their place. Thankfully we only have to play them twice this season. A team learns more from its defeats than its victories. We learn from this, and become a better and stronger team.
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I admit to being one who thought we would walk this league this season but now thinking again. I believe we have some of the divisions best players in nearly every position on the pitch but Newport made them all look ordinary. Fare play to them for that. Our Roy of the Rovers Molly was strangely anonymous yesterday for example I just hope Newport have not provided the rest of the teams in league 2 a blue print on how to stop us winning.
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think Grant’s post match analysis was good .
We all built up our expectation levels for the second half that were suddenly dispelled when the opposition went ahead from being one down .Individuals’ body language changes ,each ball becomes something to attack like life depends upon it and the team rationale goes out of your head for a while .When another goal is conceded during that period when the individual mind set is ‘ offline’ ……..
I think lessons will be drawn as a team of how to handle the situation better when that happens and let’s face it in the next 60 or so games still to be played we will go behind again in matches .
Football is a physical job but has to be played in the head to ensure energy flows and decision making are not destroyed by the unexpected .
I hope all body language and conversations on Monday remain upbeat ...Chastised is an old fashioned word but that is what we should be but not deflated .
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Senior and Broadbent the issue. Both not very good. We need a passer in midfield, changes will be made next Saturday for sure.
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Wonder how long Close is out for? Probably the only one who can really control things. Him and Westbrook played okay last season however with what's available I can never ever see both playing in the same team.
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Matter of time until Kelly starts you would think.
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Newport are our bogey side especially at their place. Thankfully we only have to play them twice this season. A team learns more from its defeats than its victories. We learn from this, and become a better and stronger team.
Even Schofield managed to win there
Yesterday the better team on the day won. You can learn more from a defeat sometimes and I’m sure Grant will be on it
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Senior and Broadbent the issue. Both not very good. We need a passer in midfield, changes will be made next Saturday for sure.
Fleming was a massive upgrade on Senior when he came on, I think Broadbent would be better utilised up the pitch, Anderson and Wood struggled with the pace of the Newport forwards
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Wonder how long Close is out for? Probably the only one who can really control things. Him and Westbrook played okay last season however with what's available I can never ever see both playing in the same team.
It was not so long ago “2-3 weeks” but Grant has now downgraded to a more vague “it takes time”.
He hasn’t played since 30 January.
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I'm not going overboard about this, but I think it's legitimate to have some concerns.
Don't forget how absolutely key the three January loans were to last season's miracle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if we have replaced them with players of a similar standard.
McCann seems to rate Broadbent in the Craig role, but I am sceptical. Today was very reminiscent of what we looked like for 30 matches last season until we found a midfielder who could take on the press and make it irrelevant.
Kelly showed some signs of being able to do that in his cameo today. We're going to need someone to do it.
One defeat and it’s doom and gloom.
Get a grip.
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I'm not going overboard about this, but I think it's legitimate to have some concerns.
Don't forget how absolutely key the three January loans were to last season's miracle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if we have replaced them with players of a similar standard.
McCann seems to rate Broadbent in the Craig role, but I am sceptical. Today was very reminiscent of what we looked like for 30 matches last season until we found a midfielder who could take on the press and make it irrelevant.
Kelly showed some signs of being able to do that in his cameo today. We're going to need someone to do it.
One defeat and it’s doom and gloom.
Get a grip.
Agreed Pancho, a bit knee jerk perhaps.
“I’m not going overboard with this” but heads the thread with Worryingly bad and opens up with “That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances.”
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Senior and Broadbent the issue. Both not very good. We need a passer in midfield, changes will be made next Saturday for sure.
Fleming was a massive upgrade on Senior when he came on, I think Broadbent would be better utilised up the pitch, Anderson and Wood struggled with the pace of the Newport forwards
If Broadbent is going to make it he's only going to do where McCann has stuck him now. He did okay not amazing. The game wasn't lost because as previous poster mentioned he and Senior aren't good.
Our right back is useless mainly at defending. Only RB I know that ends up further away from a winger than when first engaging. Bailey had to do better for the second. Then then the 3rd is just a joke all round.
Bad day in the end. Wouldn't ever be taking Gibson of for yeboah. Massive downgrade.
Oluwu in with Wood for me next game.
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I'm not going overboard about this, but I think it's legitimate to have some concerns.
Don't forget how absolutely key the three January loans were to last season's miracle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if we have replaced them with players of a similar standard.
McCann seems to rate Broadbent in the Craig role, but I am sceptical. Today was very reminiscent of what we looked like for 30 matches last season until we found a midfielder who could take on the press and make it irrelevant.
Kelly showed some signs of being able to do that in his cameo today. We're going to need someone to do it.
One defeat and it’s doom and gloom.
Get a grip.
I think you're rather overreacting here.
Did I think that performance was bad and a worry? Yes.
Do I think the reason it worried me is that the key failing was similar to the problems we had before February last year, namely an inability to get our game going under an aggressive press? Yes.
Do I think Craig was a key part of our revival last year? Yes.
Do I think that Broadbent has shown little sign of being of that calibre? Yes.
Those four points are reasonable to discuss.
Did I say the season is f**ked and I've given up now? No, of course I didn't because THAT would be a doom and gloom overreaction.
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It is an overreaction no doubt!
After a few games last season people were saying craig was not good enough.
It’s a bad result, that’s all it is, we will have plenty more bad results this season, and I expect overreactions galore then too
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It is an overreaction no doubt!
After a few games last season people were saying craig was not good enough.
It’s a bad result, that’s all it is, we will have plenty more bad results this season, and I expect overreactions galore then too
Which of the specific four things I pointed out do you disagree with?
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Are you going to be worried after every defeat?
Craig was great for us but Kelly could be just as good, Kelly has looked better than craig did after the same game time.
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It’s a defeat, there are 46 games over a season if you didn’t think we’d suffer a defeat during those games or a poor performance across 46 games then you were always setting yourself up for disappointment
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McCann got his team selection wrong. Simple as that.
But he’s one of the best managers at this level and has plenty of different players at his disposal, so that won’t happen very often.
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We were no no near as bad as we were in the match at Newport last season.
We made a couple of mistakes which cost us with goals conceded.
Look at the stats last season and look at them on Saturday.
It’s was a blip, it happens. We will learn from this game and it will focus the players on keeping the standards needed for 90+ mins every game.
If we get beat by Morecambe on Saturday then I will be a little concerned but I think we will see a big reaction to that defeat.
We will lose between 6/10 games this season even if we win the league.
So defeats happen. No team goes 46 games without losing a game or in fact quite a few.
Stockport had 5 points from their 1st 6 games last season and they finished as Champions.
If we win on Saturday we will have 6 from 3 games.
It’s where we are after we Play Notts County away in the last game that counts not after 2 games.
Let’s not have a crisis discussion after every defeat.
If we lose 3 on the trot then we can start being a bit concerned.
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Still not read any 'overreaction' posts. Read some very good points & critique from the game, but nope, no overreaction.
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The statement worryingly bad is an overreaction in itself. Some won’t think it’s an overreaction because that’s their mindset, to be negative and believe that’s ok.
That’s fine
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BST, please forgive me if I'm wrong, but it feels like on quite a few occasions there is a reluctance on your part to praise our manager and his output and effect on the team. I've had debates with you in the past about his first spell, in which (I'm paraphrasing) you didn't think it was a particularly impressive achievement for him to have got us to the L1 playoffs in 2019. Again, please do correct me if I've misjudged this, but it feels a bit like when you have to give him credit, you do so through slightly gritted teeth, but have no hesitation making strong judgements when things don't go so well.
So when you post on here at 5:15pm straight after one defeat (and let's face it, just one poor half of football) on the second game of the season, and after winning the first two, that it's "worryingly bad" "cack" and "back to first half of last season performances" (a period in which it took us until our 8th league game to win), I personally think it's understandable that you'd get a bit of pushback on that. Especially given your only real comment on the team as a whole last week after a 4-1 win in which we barely had to get out of 3rd gear, aside from individual praise for Jordan Gibson's goal, was "isn't it amazing what happens when you spend more money than the opposition" or words to that effect.
Not trying to make this a personal thing, but isn't it understandable in that context that this would be seen as a bit of a strong and slightly knee-jerk reaction?
FWIW, and we're all entitled to have different perspectives, I didn't think it was that terrible on Saturday. The second half performance wasn't great, but in my view that was less due to structural/tactical issues with the team and more individual sloppiness/errors. I know they put us under pressure but I think Molyneux should retain the ball in the build-up to the first goal even in spite of their pressing (not helped by Clifton losing his footing - not for the first time in the game - if he hadn't I think there was perhaps a 50/50 chance he wins the ball back), the second one comes from our throw-in and Ironside delaying releasing the ball for too long, a trait I think he's guilty of a bit too much, and the third one you can't legislate for Anderson getting completely caught under the ball and missing his header, it was a howler.
First half I think we were pretty good. I know Newport had spells of pressure and a couple of good chances, but it's always a tough place to go and they notoriously make it difficult for us. Perhaps the one worry is that we didn't really turn the screw enough when the game state changed and we went behind, and we continued to be sloppy after that rather than coming out with renewed impetus and belief, but I think we have a good and robust enough group of players for that to come good. It's only the second game of the season and there are always wrinkles to iron out - I can't remember a Rovers season, even the most successful ones, where we've been in brilliant form right from day one of the season. And we still have Kelly, Fleming, Sbarra, and a few others to come in and have a real bearing on things.
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Wondered how long it would be before the 'negative' word came, true to form there it is, even though noones being negative, or having a negative mindset, just honest opinions on what they see, but that's fine. Even our own manager used the word concerning.
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You only have to look at 2003/04
We were mid table until end of Sept. The 3-3 draw after being 3-0 down at Cambridge on 30th Sept got our season going. We then went on a great run.
Far too much concern on the defeat at Newport imo.
The “worryingly bad” is an over reaction in itself BST and our performance was no where near the poor level it was this time last year.
I think it was possibly a blessing losing that game. It will kick start our season and stop any complacency before we have 4 very tough games after the Morecambe game.
It will focus the players on the task ahead. We have to earn the right to get promoted and the players will see that big time now.
GM will not allow standards to drop.
Port Vale, Gillingham, Mk Dons & Chesterfield are going to test us as to where we are as a team over the next 4 weeks after the Morecambe game.
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What we have to remember is the team that finished last season isn’t the team that started this season. We’re missing the 3 players who helped to transfer our form from also-Dan’s to table toppers.
Yes, we’ve replaced those 3 and some think we’ve done well on that front. Gibson for Adelakun, Kelly for Craig and TSL for TLT. I’d tend to agree with Gibson, but the other 2 - I’m not sure. TLT, for me, on what I’ve seen so far, was/is the better keeper. I’ve yet to see Kelly, so can’t really comment.
These lads and others brought in over the summer are going to take time to really have an impact and that should be measured against our early season form. On the ball, we seem very good at times but it’s when we havn’t got it that concerns me. E.g. If Sterry was having a torrid time v their winger, why didn’t we double up on him and nullify the threat? Hopefully, these small adjustments will be worked on this week and ironed out.
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https://youtu.be/a1CbJ1hiosg?feature=shared
The save at 4:06 here from Sharman-Lowe is brilliant. Had this been TLT there would be multiple posts on here waxing lyrical. Saved Wood an embarrassment there.
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Newport 1st goal surely Baker-Richardson is offside.
2nd one Ironside got caught in possession and then Sterry got bullied.
Strike was unstoppable.
3rd goal Anderson misses his header and no cover behind him.
Plenty to learn from there. Just a bad day for us. We won’t give those sort of goals away every week.
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Well this is fun to watch. BST, who struggles giving GM positive praise at the best of times..
Versus Dickos, who can't help but defend the manager. Doesn't matter if it's Schofield, McSheffrey, Dickov, Fergie, literally any manager we've ever had. If they are our current manager, Dickos must defend them at all times.
Fun season ahead boys.
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Well this is fun to watch. BST, who struggles giving GM positive praise at the best of times..
Versus Dickos, who can't help but defend the manager. Doesn't matter if it's Schofield, McSheffrey, Dickov, Fergie, literally any manager we've ever had. If they are our current manager, Dickos must defend them at all times.
Fun season ahead boys.
This made me laugh out loud, well played!
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Well this is fun to watch. BST, who struggles giving GM positive praise at the best of times..
Versus Dickos, who can't help but defend the manager. Doesn't matter if it's Schofield, McSheffrey, Dickov, Fergie, literally any manager we've ever had. If they are our current manager, Dickos must defend them at all times.
Fun season ahead boys.
Called for Schofield and dickov to be sacked and also never defended Moore,
But yes I do defend the managers in general against the ridiculous negativity that is often found on here, negativity that has been proven to be incorrect time and time again
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The 'negativity, & 'ridicoulous'' words that have been used time & time again, that are hopelessly untrue.
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Start of a new season played 3 games won 2, scored 7 goals conceded 4,
Yet we’re seeing the same old folk with the same old negativity.
It’s not surprising in the slightest,
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Quite a lot of revisionism saying you called for Schofield to go! As I remember it lurking from afar, you defended him in every thread right until the death.
Anyhow - this season I haven't seen the "usual suspects" with their negativity. Only BST throwing toys out the pram after one bad half of football.
99% of rovers fans are not overly concerned right now.
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Quite a lot of revisionism saying you called for Schofield to go! As I remember it lurking from afar, you defended him in every thread right until the death.
Anyhow - this season I haven't seen the "usual suspects" with their negativity. Only BST throwing toys out the pram after one bad half of football.
99% of rovers fans are not overly concerned right now.
And this is why it's impossible to have a sensible discussion in here.
I thought Saturday's performance was a poor one. I've explained why in detail, and why the specific cause of the poor performance was a worry. I DIDN'T even hint at thinking that meant the season was going to be a disaster. And in some folks minds that gets processing into "doom and gloom", "negativity" and "throwing toys out of the pram". There's a child-like sensitivity among some people to ANY criticism.
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Quite a lot of revisionism saying you called for Schofield to go! As I remember it lurking from afar, you defended him in every thread right until the death.
Anyhow - this season I haven't seen the "usual suspects" with their negativity. Only BST throwing toys out the pram after one bad half of football.
99% of rovers fans are not overly concerned right now.
And this is why it's impossible to have a sensible discussion in here.
I thought Saturday's performance was a poor one. I've explained why in detail, and why the specific cause of the poor performance was a worry. I DIDN'T even hint at thinking that meant the season was going to be a disaster. And in some folks minds that gets processing into "doom and gloom", "negativity" and "throwing toys out of the pram". There's a child-like sensitivity among some people to ANY criticism.
:)
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BST - might be worth buying a mirror, because it looks like you've got a child-like sensitivity to ANY criticism.
Where's your sense of perspective?
Characterising Saturday as "worryingly bad" and comparing it to performances in the first half of last season is clearly over the top. Hence why you've been widely panned on here.
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BST - might be worth buying a mirror, because it looks like you've got a child-like sensitivity to ANY criticism.
Where's your sense of perspective?
Characterising Saturday as "worryingly bad" and comparing it to performances in the first half of last season is clearly over the top. Hence why you've been widely panned on here.
My point, which I've now explained half a dozen times is that the weakness on Saturday was exactly the same as the weakness we had in the first half of last season. In what way is that "clearly over the top"?
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Might be the words "worryingly bad", "seriously cack" and "fall apart".
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Genuinely - were you so concerned at half time on Saturday? Did you think we were back to first half of last season performances at half time?
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For the record, I only saw the last ten minutes of the first half. We were clearly second best in that spell, and the second half continued in that vein. We were comfortably broken up, and we looked vulnerable when they attacked.
I'll say it again for clarity. My opinion is that we were unable to cope with an aggressive press. That's precisely the problem we had last season up until Craig slotted in and that is why it was a worry. As I said (and the pile on folk have ignored) Kelly showed some promise at beating the press in his cameo, and my feeling is that we will need him, or someone else better than Broadbent to step up if we are going to be serious top end material.
Shouldn't need saying, but, y'know...this place. I'd be absolutely delighted if Broadbent becomes the Whiteman standard player that McCann has said he sees.
PS. The reason I missed the first 35 minutes is that the Rovers website appears to have deleted my account, which was working a couple of days before. I'll admit, spending the thick end of an hour figuring out what had happened, before deciding to set up a new account didn't help my mood. If I missed 35 minutes of Copacabana football, then I understand why folk got wound up about my criticisms of what I did see.
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Keep going.
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One defeat doesn’t mean the we are suddenly a poor team. We need to keep things in perspective. GM has built a great squad and is more than capable of getting us promoted.
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What did that famous ex manager of ours once say,
"I don't get too high with the highs or too low with the lows"
About the sharpest thing he ever did say!
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
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Start of a new season played 3 games won 2, scored 7 goals conceded 4,
Yet we’re seeing the same old folk with the same old negativity.
It’s not surprising in the slightest,
Nope, it's about having an opinion game to game, wether it be praise or critisism. Not negativity.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
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The performance wasn’t as bad as people are making out. Defensively traits of last season crept in but, we had enough opportunities to take something from the game. Ironside in particular should have had 2 and Clifton on another day could have got a couple. We lost that bit of an edge off the ball that has recently made us successful and have conceded 3 times because of it. You have to sit back sometimes and think… how many times this season will we concede 3 goals in 1 half of football. There won’t be many.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
Jesus wept dickos, have a day off will you. Yes, we get it, you like to support the club. But you can still call it for what it is. And what Saturday was, was awful for the most part. Whether it was a one off, we will see but what I can guarantee is that nobody on this forum wants to see this manager and squad fail. That doesn’t mean though that individual performances and areas of concern game to game can’t be pointed out with their own opinions.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
Jesus wept dickos, have a day off will you. Yes, we get it, you like to support the club. But you can still call it for what it is. And what Saturday was, was awful for the most part. Whether it was a one off, we will see but what I can guarantee is that nobody on this forum wants to see this manager and squad fail. That doesn’t mean though that individual performances and areas of concern game to game can’t be pointed out with their own opinions.
Saturday wasn’t awful!
Have u not seen the last 3 years, the majority of that was awful.
We could easily have won on Saturday and played well in spells.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
Jesus wept dickos, have a day off will you. Yes, we get it, you like to support the club. But you can still call it for what it is. And what Saturday was, was awful for the most part. Whether it was a one off, we will see but what I can guarantee is that nobody on this forum wants to see this manager and squad fail. That doesn’t mean though that individual performances and areas of concern game to game can’t be pointed out with their own opinions.
Saturday wasn’t awful!
Have u not seen the last 3 years, the majority of that was awful.
We could easily have won on Saturday and played well in spells.
Yes, Dickos, the last three years was awful and yet for the whole three years you argued black was white against anyone who criticised it.
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Dont understand the criticism of Broadbent it was 1-1 went he went off and it went downhill pretty fast after he left the field, its his break through year and i think he will improve massively throughout the season, thought Grant took off a defensive midfielder and put on an attacking midfielder trying to get the 3 points, it backfired, hey ho, no major issues you know Grant will always go for the 3 points, never a dull moment, we have issues in certain positions as do all teams its up to Grant to sort them out and i know he will, in Grant we trust
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
Jesus wept dickos, have a day off will you. Yes, we get it, you like to support the club. But you can still call it for what it is. And what Saturday was, was awful for the most part. Whether it was a one off, we will see but what I can guarantee is that nobody on this forum wants to see this manager and squad fail. That doesn’t mean though that individual performances and areas of concern game to game can’t be pointed out with their own opinions.
Saturday wasn’t awful!
Have u not seen the last 3 years, the majority of that was awful.
We could easily have won on Saturday and played well in spells.
Yes, Dickos, the last three years was awful and yet for the whole three years you argued black was white against anyone who criticised it.
No he didn't. He was quite willing to accept our shortcomings and take part in reasonable debate, he didn't argue that "black was white".
The main bone of contention on this thread is the OTT phraseology used by the OP, and his usual stubbornness in refusing to admit that. Much better in his eyes to throw patronising insults at those who disagree with him and having the nerve to call their reactions "child-like".
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Exactly. That's what posters are commenting on, not negativity or anything else.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Err.
He said "We need to look at this because there's lots of areas where we can improve. We didn't get on the ball, we didn't handle the ball, we didn't pick up the seconds, they were more aggressive than us." He said, "Everything that we've worked on for 3-4 months went out the window and we looked like a team of individuals."
This is precisely the point I was making. Yet I'm being hysterical apparently, and McCann is calm and reflective.
Weird place, this is sometimes.
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By the way. I've got a thesaurus here. Have a guess what the first synonym is that it lists for "concerning".
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Err.
He said "We need to look at this because there's lots of areas where we can improve. We didn't get on the ball, we didn't handle the ball, we didn't pick up the seconds, they were more aggressive than us." He said, "Everything that we've worked on for 3-4 months went out the window and we looked like a team of individuals."
This is precisely the point I was making. Yet I'm being hysterical apparently, and McCann is calm and reflective.
Weird place, this is sometimes.
Incorrect
He said it was concerning how we conceded goals in quick succession
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Exactly. That's what posters are commenting on, not negativity or anything else.
“That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart”
“ Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.”
Not sure anyone can argue these aren’t negative posts
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Err.
He said "We need to look at this because there's lots of areas where we can improve. We didn't get on the ball, we didn't handle the ball, we didn't pick up the seconds, they were more aggressive than us." He said, "Everything that we've worked on for 3-4 months went out the window and we looked like a team of individuals."
This is precisely the point I was making. Yet I'm being hysterical apparently, and McCann is calm and reflective.
Weird place, this is sometimes.
Incorrect
He said it was concerning how we conceded goals in quick succession
Not in this interview. Watch the 20 secs from here.
https://youtu.be/P1p-o7XL_Bo?t=79
Happy to wrap this up now. It's boring for me so I'm sure it is for a lot of others.
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Yes Grant agrees with what is being said, just a different way of saying it, so Grant is 'negative' then. Critical, not negative.
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Dickos, I would suggest it's being realistic.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Exactly. That's what posters are commenting on, not negativity or anything else.
“That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart”
“ Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.”
Not sure anyone can argue these aren’t negative posts
One of those comments was by me and yes, it was negative... as was Saturday's result and second half performance.
I'm not sure why a negative review after a poor performance and defeat against a weak opposition is controversial or even noteworthy.
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Exactly. That's what posters are commenting on, not negativity or anything else.
“That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart”
“ Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.”
Not sure anyone can argue these aren’t negative posts
One of those comments was by me and yes, it was negative... as was Saturday's result and second half performance.
I'm not sure why a negative review after a poor performance and defeat against a weak opposition is controversial or even noteworthy.
I’m just pointing out to Les that there has been negativity, so Thankyou for confirming
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OK, guys, I'll try and put a bit of perspective on things. I genuinely think there are far more positives than negatives at the moment.
The positives are an owner who is now digging deep into his pockets, a first class manager at this level, and a squad with a wealth of attacking talent, particularly on the wings.
The negatives for me are that the defensive problems of the last few seasons still don't seem to have been fully addressed. I rate Newport as a very mediocre League 2 team, yet they opened us up with ease, even in that first half.
I think we'll beat Morecambe with ease on Saturday; but I'm a bit concerned about Port Vale. They've signed some very good players, and Vale Park is a bogey ground of ours. If we defend badly there, we could get another pumping, for the 2nd away game on the trot.
That would concern me.
Do people really believe there are negatives at this moment in time?
They certainly do, crazy ain’t it
Negativity absolutely not, concerns over the most recent performance? yes. The same concerns Grant commented on in his interview. Weird that isn't it.
I didn’t hear grant come out and suggest the signings he’s made aren’t as good as the players he had last season, I didn’t hear him saying it was a performance like the first half of last season, I didn’t hear him say it was worryingly bad or cack.
But yes ok, grant said the same as all the negativity on here
No he said 'concerning', & he was bang on, that 2nd half was, not negative, just truthfull.
He said one particular aspect of the game was concerning. Nothing else
Exactly. That's what posters are commenting on, not negativity or anything else.
“That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart”
“ Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.”
Not sure anyone can argue these aren’t negative posts
One of those comments was by me and yes, it was negative... as was Saturday's result and second half performance.
I'm not sure why a negative review after a poor performance and defeat against a weak opposition is controversial or even noteworthy.
I’m just pointing out to Les that there has been negativity, so Thankyou for confirming
You haven't just pointed that out.
Either way, let's hope for a better performance and result tomorrow. Just remember that people can discuss the game afterwards without being accused of blasphemy.