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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on August 24, 2024, 08:06:38 pm
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A game against a Premiership team we look forward to as supporters in cup competitions every season hoping we can cause an upset and make the headlines after the game.
Will we be sacrificial lambs or talked about as heroes against a side that can play us off the park, but at the moment are bottom of their division and shipping goals.
It is game we can just go and enjoy the moment, while Everton have all the pressure on their shoulders, are having a bad time of it and will want to start their season off with a win as quickly as possible, but a chance for our players to show case how good they can be.
No doubt both managers will look to probably make changes Anderson for one probably to miss this one for us and a chance for McGrath, but I am hoping myself for as few as possible, and for once Everton have more pressure on themselves than us as to what team they put out being under the microscope much more than ourselves from the media, and their team will be under immense pressure to get a good result whoever plays for them with all the expectancy on them.
One for us to enjoy, hopefully do ourselves justice, and play with no fear and put in a performance that the club and supporters can be proud of'
What do you think?
Can we cause an upset?
Do you see it as an important game, (I do I would like to think we project the club to a wider audience especially the youngsters locally)
What would you change from the team today?
How will you watch the game, from an armchair or in the mix for the last time at Goodison Park.
Hopefully a great game in prospect for everyone to enjoy especially the younger members of our support, and lots to discuss about the game and guesswork about who plays, please have your say
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Try not to park around County Road otherwise enjoy the night .
Get the first goal and an upset could be on the cards .
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I hope he plays his strongest starting 11 an we really go for it ,will be their as I've never been to goodison park
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Support will be awesome. That will lift the players. We ( on paper) should not beat a premier league team ( irrelevant how bad they are), however, there is always a chance to pull of a shock ( some lower league team always does). All I want is our players to go out, and put in a shift. Try there best. Irrelevant of the result
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I hope he plays his strongest starting 11 an we really go for it ,will be their as I've never been to goodison park
I'm really hoping we play several second choice players.
Might make a bit of a game of it then...
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Just back from todays match and now super looking forward to Tuesday.
Going to be superb.
3,000 reds. Awesome.
Let’s make some noise
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There are a lot of parallels to last year’s start for Everton. Both seasons they lost their first home game without scoring (0-1 to Fulham last year, 0-3 to Brighton this time) and then got thumped 4-0 in their first away game (Villa last year, Spurs this). They did manage to sneak another game in last year, a 1-0 home defeat to Wolves, before playing us.
Last year they made only 4 changes to that last league defeat, will be interesting to see if they play a strong team to try and kick start the season or make a higher number of changes with Saturday’s very winnable home game against Bournemouth in mind.
At this stage I’d hope we play near enough our first team (not that I know what that is; I don’t think GM does either which probably goes some way to explaining our stop-start start to the season). That should help bring some more fluidity and rhythm to the team and set us up better for Saturday.
For me it would be the same team that started today with Ironside back in and Nixon at right back to make us that bit more solid defensively. Think you could also make a case for either Sbarra or Gibson starting for Gibson.
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i posted this on here after hearing it in the pre-match Dyche interview I think he said some 18 y.o. kid would make his debut
Dyche reckons he is down to 14 players against Tottenham today so expect a lot of kids playing ???
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I hope we keep in mind the important league match next Saturday against PV. The league has the focus for this season, and a cup run being a bonus. Grant has a strong side available to play PV next week, if not we will be well beaten.
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Lawlor
Nixon
Olowu
McGrath
Senior
Broadbent
Westwoode
Sbarra
Hurst
Sharp
Yeboah
Subs
TSL
Sterry
Anderson or Williams
Bailey
Kelly
Clifton
Molyneux
Gibson
Ironside
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I'll be cheering on in a bar in Gran Canaria. I'm hoping there's going to be some scousers in there, try and create my own hostile atmosphere.
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The Everton players seem to have lost the fans, lets hope we get an early goal to make it even more toxic for them
https://x.com/awaydays_/status/1827802463614710074?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA
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Classy.
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Everton have an injury crisis in defence. They had to play an unfortunate academy player vs Spurs as Coleman, Young, Branthwaite and Patterson are all injured. Maybe Donny-born Holgate will play there.
Expect them to play Beto up top who took the game away from us last year with his pace and power that you can’t do much about. He will make Olowu look slow so keep Anderson away please.
Former Sheff Utd star Ndiaye looks in line to start too.
Need some physicality up top with Ironside against tough opposition. He went toe to toe with Michael Keane last year.
I’d play Hurst to run at and get in behind whoever is at right back. I feel Gibson may be better centrally going forward. Good player but I’m skeptical of the balance of the team with him out wide.
Molyneux steps up for big games.
I’d go with:
TSL
Nixon
Olowu
McGrath
Senior
Bailey
Westbrooke
Kelly
Hurst
Ironside
Molyneux
*Clifton, Sbarra and Broadbent off the bench to keep the energy up.
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We are playing a team that’s lost their first two games and will want to get back on track. I believe Everton will play the strongest side to win this game. They are premier league side who will be hurting. We go there do our best and then get ready for Saturday the important game in our league
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https://x.com/AwayDays_/status/1827802463614710074?t=aNqezjSaaDPKfI2xnweO4A&s=19
If this footage is anything to go by, I don't think the everton players will be too motivated.
We could be in for a famous victory here
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I only want us to give it our best shot, despite them having a poor start to the season they are and should be better than we are.
But it is all on the night, if we give our best and even play above ourselves we could cause an upset and that is our part to play, all the expectation is on Everton, it's our free hit for us and our players who can make a national name for themselves and enjoy the occasion.
Whoever plays just go for it.
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https://x.com/AwayDays_/status/1827802463614710074?t=aNqezjSaaDPKfI2xnweO4A&s=19
If this footage is anything to go by, I don't think the everton players will be too motivated.
We could be in for a famous victory here
"80 grand a week, yer f*cking w*nker".
He's got a point though. Some of those fans will be on poor wages, much of which will be spent on watching their beloved team.
I just hope there isn't a reaction from the players, or we could be facing a heavy defeat.
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I’d play the same team that beat Salford, and bring on first team players when needed. We have to have a full strength team for Port Vale.
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We have got what we wanted, a decent payday. Play the team not featuring in Saturdays plans. Our next 7 games in the league probably the toughest run we will have. No injuries and a decent performance would be the best result.
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Would be good tomorrow having 70 % of City of Liverpool supporting Rovers then after we defeat EFC coming back there with only 30% supporting us :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Just go and enjoy the occasion, just as I did the first time. We put up a good show but Everton were such a good team back then so 2-0 was a relief really but I was so proud to be a Rover.
These are what memories are made of irrespective of the result
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I would think Dyche will go all out to get a win, they need to get fans back onside. It’s a bit of a no win situation for them though.
Lose and it could be curtains for Dyche.
I just hope for a good performance and the players do not over try, and burn out for the following league games.
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Just no more injuries or red cards please. We need everyone ok for PV.
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They have a terrible set of fans. Get in their faces early cause a few errors they'll be all over their own team. Didn't even notice them last year when they came down here.
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They think they have a god given right to be at least top half Premier league, never mind just competing .
Bizarre
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We have got what we wanted, a decent payday. Play the team not featuring in Saturdays plans. Our next 7 games in the league probably the toughest run we will have. No injuries and a decent performance would be the best result.
Next game is on Thursday, Jersey
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I’d play the same team that beat Salford, and bring on first team players when needed. We have to have a full strength team for Port Vale.
McCann’s problem is knowing what his best/full strength team is though.
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We have got what we wanted, a decent payday. Play the team not featuring in Saturdays plans. Our next 7 games in the league probably the toughest run we will have. No injuries and a decent performance would be the best result.
Next game is on Thursday, Jersey
Tuesday-Thursday would be mad. Our next game is at Port Vale on Saturday at 12.30.
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My mistake then, I thought it had been re arranged when the TV schedule was announced for it to be this Thursday
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My mistake then, I thought it had been re arranged when the TV schedule was announced for it to be this Thursday
We've got Harrogate on a Thursday but think that's a good couple of weeks away.
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Yep you"re right, I've got my calendar all to pot
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We are playing a team that’s lost their first two games and will want to get back on track. I believe Everton will play the strongest side to win this game. They are premier league side who will be hurting. We go there do our best and then get ready for Saturday the important game in our league
I disagree. With the financial constraints Everton are under and the impending move in to their new stadium, their main priority will be to stay in the Premier League. They won’t care about tonight.
They are there for the taking. With the potential reward at play and our squad size we shouldn’t be putting out a 2nd XI.
We need positive momentum and a good performance. Beating the worst side in the league thanks to a goalkeeping error is not bouncing back from the Newport defeat.
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Will be supporting from afar tonight (unfortunately) cmon Rovers
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We are playing a team that’s lost their first two games and will want to get back on track. I believe Everton will play the strongest side to win this game. They are premier league side who will be hurting. We go there do our best and then get ready for Saturday the important game in our league
I disagree. With the financial constraints Everton are under and the impending move in to their new stadium, their main priority will be to stay in the Premier League. They won’t care about tonight.
They are there for the taking. With the potential reward at play and our squad size we shouldn’t be putting out a 2nd XI.
We need positive momentum and a good performance. Beating the worst side in the league thanks to a goalkeeping error is not bouncing back from the Newport defeat.
Too right NC.
A potential for an even bigger team in the next round, the best chance in a long time of gaining a premiership scalp.
We should not be resting anyone, its too early in the season to even think about tiredness playing a part.
Lets go out there smash them get the feeling around the town upto 100% and draw a manchester club or Liverpool in the next round.
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Have arrived nice and early, having a pint in The People’s Pub across the road from the ground.
Got my ticket finally!
:)
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Trying to hurry my missus into getting ready so we can go out, find somewhere for tea and watch the match in puerto rico, gran canaria.
I'm five pints deep on happy hour San Miguel and getting pre match nerves.
I honestly wish I was in Liverpool tonight with my brothers.
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Looking at our last 2 performances away from home to Premier League teams in cup competitions, the contrast couldn't be starker. Against a very strong Arsenal side we competed really well and went down by the odd goal. At West Ham we froze on the day and were lucky it was only 0-4.
I wonder if we'll get a repeat of either of those performances, or somewhere in between.
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Looking at our last 2 performances away from home to Premier League teams in cup competitions, the contrast couldn't be starker. Against a very strong Arsenal side we competed really well and went down by the odd goal. At West Ham we froze on the day and were lucky it was only 0-4.
I wonder if we'll get a repeat of either of those performances, or somewhere in between.
…..or a complete contrast?
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Trying to hurry my missus into getting ready so we can go out, find somewhere for tea and watch the match in puerto rico, gran canaria.
I'm five pints deep on happy hour San Miguel and getting pre match nerves.
I honestly wish I was in Liverpool tonight with my brothers.
Make sure you go to VIP pizza. Cracking food!
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Looking at our last 2 performances away from home to Premier League teams in cup competitions, the contrast couldn't be starker. Against a very strong Arsenal side we competed really well and went down by the odd goal. At West Ham we froze on the day and were lucky it was only 0-4.
I wonder if we'll get a repeat of either of those performances, or somewhere in between.
…..or a complete contrast?
You must mean a win, mate. Can't see it myself, but I hope you're right.
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We are playing a team that’s lost their first two games and will want to get back on track. I believe Everton will play the strongest side to win this game. They are premier league side who will be hurting. We go there do our best and then get ready for Saturday the important game in our league
I disagree. With the financial constraints Everton are under and the impending move in to their new stadium, their main priority will be to stay in the Premier League. They won’t care about tonight.
They are there for the taking. With the potential reward at play and our squad size we shouldn’t be putting out a 2nd XI.
We need positive momentum and a good performance. Beating the worst side in the league thanks to a goalkeeping error is not bouncing back from the Newport defeat.
Too right NC.
A potential for an even bigger team in the next round, the best chance in a long time of gaining a premiership scalp.
We should not be resting anyone, its too early in the season to even think about tiredness playing a part.
Lets go out there smash them get the feeling around the town upto 100% and draw a manchester club or Liverpool in the next round.
This Article gives one perspective https://www.everton.news/sean-dyches-job-could-depend-on-starting-magic-everton-player-vs-doncaster-in-efl-cup/
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No Clifton, and after his interview and mentioning his family in Liverpool, and his experience beating Southampton with Grimsby, that’s some decision from GM. Wow!
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To add to that, we are missing his energy and forward play, hope he is fit and well.
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As I said a strong Everton side did what they had to do and we had a good first half second wasn’t in the game. We move on to Saturday and as yet I’ve not seen a promotion winning side as you said NC Rover we scraped a win on Saturday can we do the same next Saturday,
For me I’m not sure as yet this squad are top of the table candidates
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Everton made similar subs to last seasons game and same result. I think Everton played better tonight than last season though, we were chasing shadows for much of this game.
Good effort lads, but let’s win on Saturday.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
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Looking at our last 2 performances away from home to Premier League teams in cup competitions, the contrast couldn't be starker. Against a very strong Arsenal side we competed really well and went down by the odd goal. At West Ham we froze on the day and were lucky it was only 0-4.
I wonder if we'll get a repeat of either of those performances, or somewhere in between.
…..or a complete contrast?
Somewhere in between it was then SS.
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Thought everton were just about to kick the ball out when nixon was down in the build up to the goal. Then they saw him hobble up and carried on to score the 1st.
Wonder if he did stay diwn then that goal wouldnt of come at that point. He was clearly hurt and not faking to slow the game down.
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Looking at our last 2 performances away from home to Premier League teams in cup competitions, the contrast couldn't be starker. Against a very strong Arsenal side we competed really well and went down by the odd goal. At West Ham we froze on the day and were lucky it was only 0-4.
I wonder if we'll get a repeat of either of those performances, or somewhere in between.
…..or a complete contrast?
Somewhere in between it was then SS.
Yes, mate. Not as good as against Arsenal, but much better than against West Ham.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
Westbrook was often calling for the ball and then just passing it back and sideways in the first half which gets us nowhere. Kelly did not play as well as he has before, but he’s more attack-minded
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If Clifton is OK, I think he'll be back in on Saturday.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
McCann saying Nixon is a “concern”.
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Nixon’s injury concern is just what we didn’t want from this game and, for me, it was a foul that wasn’t given (nothing new there).
McGrath was head and shoulders our best player tonight. Other than that it was huff and puff. The 2nd half we couldn’t lay a glove on them.
Question marks about a few players tonight.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
Westbrook was often calling for the ball and then just passing it back and sideways in the first half which gets us nowhere. Kelly did not play as well as he has before, but he’s more attack-minded
Westbrooke was quite wasteful tonight, his first 4 touches had him giving the ball away and kept killing any momentum we could muster with his turning back to his own goal every time he received the ball.
If he's to play in that position then he needs to be better, quicker and more probing, it was too slow to predictable and destroyed our go forward. Obviously he's playing against much better players and its a learning curve for all. Really missed a player like Craig in there. Clifton would of also been handy.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
Westbrook was often calling for the ball and then just passing it back and sideways in the first half which gets us nowhere. Kelly did not play as well as he has before, but he’s more attack-minded
Westbrooke was quite wasteful tonight, his first 4 touches had him giving the ball away and kept killing any momentum we could muster with his turning back to his own goal every time he received the ball.
If he's to play in that position then he needs to be better, quicker and more probing, it was too slow to predictable and destroyed our go forward. Obviously he's playing against much better players and its a learning curve for all. Really missed a player like Craig in there. Clifton would of also been handy.
Unpredictable passing relies on unpredictable movement.
And anyway, he was quite literally our least wasteful midfielder.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
McCann saying Nixon is a “concern”.
McCann now saying Nixon has a chance for Saturday.
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That centre back pairing of Joe and Jay looks good.
Olowu winning headers and holding strong against Beto shows he has really improved in the physical aspect of the game.
Westbrook played great - including a filthy nutmeg in the first half. He looks tidier and more composed on the ball compared to Kelly. I would play Zain at the base of midfield on Saturday.
The attacking balance looked a lot better when Hurst came on for Gibson.
I think Nixon’s injury was just a knock as he played on for a while after getting whacked then was holding his shin more than his ankle.
Westbrook was often calling for the ball and then just passing it back and sideways in the first half which gets us nowhere. Kelly did not play as well as he has before, but he’s more attack-minded
Westbrooke was quite wasteful tonight, his first 4 touches had him giving the ball away and kept killing any momentum we could muster with his turning back to his own goal every time he received the ball.
If he's to play in that position then he needs to be better, quicker and more probing, it was too slow to predictable and destroyed our go forward. Obviously he's playing against much better players and its a learning curve for all. Really missed a player like Craig in there. Clifton would of also been handy.
Unpredictable passing relies on unpredictable movement.
And anyway, he was quite literally our least wasteful midfielder.
I don’t understand what you mean by your comment about unpredictability. I would also be interested in knowing how “wasteful” is defined in your stats. If it is the percentage of a player’s passes that don’t find a teammate, how does it take account of unproductive passing around at the back as Westbrook and others did a fair amount of - early on particularly.