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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on January 01, 2025, 05:45:52 pm
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3 pts in the bag but that was poor and yet again we gift wrap a goal
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Indicative of matches I have seen. I so want them to do well.
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If a team is sat in 2nd place without getting out of second gear then that’s only a good thing.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
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That winner for us only papered over the cracks ! We were woeful today and have been for a few games now, as said though we are currently second.
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Absolutely, not pretty at all and not the flowing football we hope to see.
But 2nd in the table so fair enough; they're getting the job done.
See you all on Saturday.
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Well done billy, good three points, another poor game with many players looking as they are not interested and has been the same for some. Agree great to be where we are in the table but something needs to happen and to loo as though we get rid of our lead boots.
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Really good to see Maxwell coming back to form
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Feel sorry for Broadbent. He was having a good game but that clearly isn’t something he has the composure to do. I blame the instruction.
Ironside called for it long and was ignored! Then they set a trap and it worked.
We never went long to Ironside as an out ball. Why? Made for a very turgid first half just passing it around the defence. Second half we pushed the whole team higher up the pitch and looked better.
Enjoyed Kyle Hurst’s performance today. He worked really hard for the team too.
Maxwell very good going forward but I think the left side of defence with him and McGrath looks a bit vulnerable at present - I think Selby flagged that to his credit.
It won’t show in the stats with shots etc but they cut through us a lot but their final ball was just lacking.
Very clinical from us today thankfully.
Great time to play Port Vale… could we give Darren Moore the sack? Imagine!
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
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If we can sort the midfield out, we be fine. No ball carrier in there. Hoping for some improvement in that area.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
I imagine some of us are more interested in watching good football than contemplating the Table.
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What a daft thing to say,
So you’d be happier sat in 20th but playing pretty football
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Three years of watching this league has nearly broken me. Terrifying implications for the state of the English game when the technical ability of players, even at this level, is so low.
Anyway, I thought that goal had all the hallmarks of a really significant moment in the season.
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I didn't think it was that bad overall. I think fleetwood are better than their league position. Their No7 and 44 both gave us problems throughout, note they both came from the Irish league so there is value in scouting over there as GM does.
Broadbent will get hammered for his miss control but overall I thought he was OK. Bailey battled well and was strong, Clifton put himself about well as did Kelly when he came on.
For me we are lacking the penetrative wingers, on both side. I'm a big fan of Molly but another game where there was zero end product.
We keep slowing the game down too much,
it doesn't suit us. The one time in the first half where we moved the ball a bit quicker out wide and whipped a cross in we scored.
Sterry and Maxwell offer more going forward than other options at RB/LB. Maxwell looked really good again today IMO, back with an assist aswell.
A team that isn't playing well but doesn't stop and grinds out the extra points is the sign of champions.
My main frustration is the slow predictable passing around at the back. We need to get it forward quicker. I don't think we are too far away. Here's hoping for some wide attackers personally.
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Another game where the Referee could have had a BIG bearing on the result
Hurst Edit Clifton I think it was , dragged back by the last man
DOGSO ? How could it not be , and we would have been playing against 10 men for 60 mins or more
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
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Did we play well today? No
Did we win? Yes
Are we 2nd in the league? Yes
Do I care about the first question? No.
Some of you need to understand this league this season, it is not a pretty football league, it’s a get 10 men behind the ball, press and make them go long type of league. Shit to watch but that’s the reality and only Walsall are good enough to play around it, the rest of us are just inconsistent but I’ll take a crap performance and a win over a great performance and a loss/draw any day of the week.
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We are just atrocious at passing and progressing the football down the field with short to medium distant passes. Other parts of the game are ok. The father look horrific in possession makes us look worse than we are as a team.
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
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All this and yet… we won and sit second in the league. I reckon we’d have gladly accepted that at the start of the season. Imagine what’ll happen when we start playing…
Tough game today in shit conditions. Me and the boy were there. He’s undefeated in live games so far. A few observations:
I don’t know why we persist with this playing out from the back. It’s predictable and often the ball just comes straight back.
Olowu and McGrath are some partnership.
Maxwell doesn’t seem 100% fit.
Sterry was excellent today.
Joe Ironside is a warrior.
We seem to be lacking a proper bas**rd in midfield.
Mols and Hurst have bags of talent but really need to be having a pop at goal more, especially on days like today.
Actually enjoyed the game. Cold. Hard fought. And we won.
Billy Sharp - love.❤️
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
And if my auntie had b*llocks…
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
And if my auntie had b*llocks…
A very intelligent response to a valid point. We haven't all played the same number of games.
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Coming away from the stadium one of my mates said that the Sharp late goal felt a bit like the late Ironside pen at Sutton last season and that it might just kick us on as it did after that.
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So we are second in the table and it shouldn’t be forgotten that teams with games in hand don’t always win them..
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I thought we were very well organised but we do struggle a bit to break teams down. The teams at the top find a way to win. Massive goal that feels like.
We'll be fine though the defence was super strong again. I do wish we passed it a bit better through midfield.
I was also wrong. I didn't like the subs with Ironside going off but sharp did the business.
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If I go to watch for example Sheffield Wednesday vs Derby County or Exeter City vs Lincoln City I want to 7 goals including a couple of worldies, a sending off or two.
When I go and watch MY team I want to see them win and hopefully 7 goals and a couple of worldies, but if it’s a win like today so be it.
There must be some people on this forum who were annoyed when Billy Sharp did what Billy Sharp does, because they couldn’t pull the team to pieces even more
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Not sure how Sterry got MoM, I didn't think he played that well, 90% of the time got the ball, stopped and passed backwards.
Might be the lack of movement we have in midfield at the moment though, throw ins we seem to take forever on because nobody shows until late
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It’s never going to be a good watch when you’re playing a midfield 3 and none of them can play football. We desperately need a central midfielder that can use the ball.
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Maxwell was much better than Sterry if they wanted a fullback to compare against.
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Great 3 points, absolutely awful performance.
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Olowu was a colossus again. What an improvement this season. Well done Joseph.
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Maxwell was much better than Sterry if they wanted a fullback to compare against.
They were both good and both our best full backs.
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
And if my auntie had b*llocks…
A very intelligent response to a valid point. We haven't all played the same number of games.
Obviously. Points on the board are the only stat that matters.
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All the defenders played well today, but why is Grant still instructing them to play out from the back when TSL has the ball. Its football suicide, and its not only us who do it. What happened to channeling the ball. Very nearly cost us yet again.
Poor performance overall, but a welcome 3 points.
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
And if my auntie had b*llocks…
A very intelligent response to a valid point. We haven't all played the same number of games.
Obviously. Points on the board are the only stat that matters.
In isolation maybe (it’s certainly the most important thing today), but it’s myopic to think like that overall. SOD used to focus on the performance and say that if you get the level of performances right then the results will take care of themselves, and the same’s true if you’re consistently underperforming but scraping points together. Whatever he’s saying publicly I’m sure that McCann knows we need to improve.
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I thought we were absolutely useless today.
I also think it’s perfectly reasonable to be happy winning, being 2nd AND be concerned about performances.
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2 CMs needed asap and a left sided player. Cliftons biggest thing is 'having legs' Broadbent just isn't cut for a promotion team.
Some people obsess over Hurst but slate Gibson!
We were never going to play well with that 3 combo in midfield especially at home v an organised alright team
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2 CMs needed asap and a left sided player. Cliftons biggest thing is 'having legs' Broadbent just isn't cut for a promotion team.
Some people obsess over Hurst but slate Gibson!
We were never going to play well with that 3 combo in midfield especially at home v an organised alright team
100% need more weight in midfield.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
And if my auntie had b*llocks…
A very intelligent response to a valid point. We haven't all played the same number of games.
Obviously. Points on the board are the only stat that matters.
In isolation maybe (it’s certainly the most important thing today), but it’s myopic to think like that overall. SOD used to focus on the performance and say that if you get the level of performances right then the results will take care of themselves, and the same’s true if you’re consistently underperforming but scraping points together. Whatever he’s saying publicly I’m sure that McCann knows we need to improve.
Sod used to say that because we were struggling in the table, how people keep banging on about false positions and we’re lucky etc etc after 24 games is beyond me.
The Saunders team struggled in most games yet won the league, maybe we’ve realised that in thru league it isn’t pretty football that gets you success
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I thought we were absolutely useless today.
I also think it’s perfectly reasonable to be happy winning, being 2nd AND be concerned about performances.
I thought we were absolutely useless today.
I also think it’s perfectly reasonable to be happy winning, being 2nd AND be concerned about performances.
Absolutely spot on.
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The lack of quality in any of our play today was palpable, we "escaped" from that game with all the points after given them a leg up with their goal. two half's of virtually 45 mins of abject numbness with 60secs of relief tagged onto each end.
For a team with pretensions of being champions i'm just not seeing it.
For all the talk of being in 2nd gear and when we get it together, the lack of any semblance of a game plan that will worry the better teams in this league is stark.
We played a team today who were every limited and they managed to make us stink the ground out. Just remember this the next time we play a team who played like Chesterfield did for example, we rode our luck today and got away with it.
It won't happen too many more times this season. I'm happy to except any win but my concerns grow stronger, we are disjointed and our "quality players" have become as weak and wasteful as little boys, if we don't inject some quality into our side then expect the rest of the season to resemble games like this, only without the injury time winner to bail us out again.
Nothings we are currently attempting to do gives me any assurance.
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But for the last gasp goal, I couldn't see where the chance would come from.
We just hufffed and puffed. The fact is that performances have dipped. We need an injection of quality in a few areas especially midfield to gain renewed momentum.
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Yep. Happy with the win, but the performances haven't been at all convincing.
Creating chances seems like such hard work for us, the quality just hasn't been there. We didn't really threaten Fleetwood much other than the goals.
Not to mention giving sloppy goals away. Fleetwood did nothing in the 2nd half and we still gifted them an equaliser.
I believe we've only kept 1 clean sheet since early October. Considering that we're not free scoring, it's also been a problem for us.
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The midfield 3 played like they had just met each other for the first time 10 mins before KO, we can’t dominate a game without controlling the middle of the park
I don’t think Broadbent, Bailey or Clifton strung more than 5 passes between them all game, they don’t work and the balance between them 3 is just not what is needed to dominate games.
IMO, this is what is holding us back massively at the moment, win midfield and the rest takes care of its self.
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They had the shortest keeper i've seen in years, did we actually get him to do anything in that game (bar kick the ball out of the net twice)?
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
We can be both happy for the win and and our position in the table but concerned about the performance at the same time
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
Felt like sh*t for a week, went to the match, froze my tits off got soaked and had to endure that!
The three points hardly feel like any sort of recompense for my ordeal today. Should of stayed in bed.
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
We can be both happy for the win and and our position in the table but concerned about the performance at the same time
Exactly. We're 2nd which is brilliant. That was awful football, as it has been for many a game, which is not brilliant. Simples. You aren't negative or as someone said ridiculously that you're unhappy Sharp scored for simply pointing out that what we witnessed today was awful football for the most
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League position is all that matters, but until all the other teams catch us up in games played it’s kind of irrelevant. For me, we are still far from convincing and nobody can tell me that was a good performance today and that we were in control of that result, because we weren’t. Billy rescued it with a typical poachers goal, but overall we looked pretty devoid of ideas.
Still not sure what the game plan is and midfield looks like it will cost us in the games against better opposition as we don’t appear to be able to control or dictate play.
Absolutely we have taken 2nd on New Year’s Day, but anyone that thinks we are convincing needs to think again about the actual performances.
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
Add MK Dons to that list.
BobG
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Somebody commented in the Lucky Pint that the Rovers looked, and played like they were disorganised. If that is true then, after a full pre season AND now half a competitive season, then, sonewhere, there is something wrong.
We might play 3 or 4 different formations but they've had 6 months now to learn 'em.
The obvious candidate for a problem is the coaching. But there are other possibilities of course. It doesn't really matter. But what does matter is that a team that set out wanting to win the league can be described, half way through the season, as being disorganised.
In my eyes that description of how we are playing is ominous.
BobG
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Difficult to watch as you say, I think it's difficult and frustrating as we all know what the team players are capable of.
Yes that frustration is the exciting thing. Get ready for the 2nd half of the season when we add more quality and start to get it right, remember last season? Yet we are 2nd in the league..... yippppeeee :)
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For me unless we sign a better holding midfielder Bailey starts in the position
Any 2 from the others maybe Kelly and Clifton until Zain is fit.
Not seen it mentioned but TSL had a good game dominant on crosses and made an excellent save 2nd half.
Somebody mentioned the breakaway from Hurst, he ran in a straight line didn't work the full back at all and paid the price with a tackle from said defender
But we're 2nd rode our luck and got 3 points need to follow it up with a better display on Saturday against a sinking Port Vale
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We are 2nd in the table only if Salford, Crewe, Wimbledon and Notts Co don't win all the games they have in hand.
We could equally be 6th which is quite different.
Just a simple fact, and we need to improve now we are in the second half of the season.
Add MK Dons to that list.
BobG
By the time they play the games in hand they could make zero difference to the table, just be happy for how it looks today
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Disorganised
Poor
Slow
Not up to this league
Well below last years standards
And second in the league, so let's try and be a little positive, there are fans of 22 other teams that will possibly be moaning more than you boring lot
:woohoo: :chair:
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
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I'd rather be 2nd in the table and not playing to our full potential than be playing brilliantly but 2nd from bottom
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
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The lack of quality in any of our play today was palpable, we "escaped" from that game with all the points after given them a leg up with their goal. two half's of virtually 45 mins of abject numbness with 60secs of relief tagged onto each end.
For a team with pretensions of being champions i'm just not seeing it.
For all the talk of being in 2nd gear and when we get it together, the lack of any semblance of a game plan that will worry the better teams in this league is stark.
We played a team today who were every limited and they managed to make us stink the ground out. Just remember this the next time we play a team who played like Chesterfield did for example, we rode our luck today and got away with it.
It won't happen too many more times this season. I'm happy to except any win but my concerns grow stronger, we are disjointed and our "quality players" have become as weak and wasteful as little boys, if we don't inject some quality into our side then expect the rest of the season to resemble games like this, only without the injury time winner to bail us out again.
Nothings we are currently attempting to do gives me any assurance.
Top post, I agree entirely.
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
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TSL is better on crosses than TLT. Distribution better too. Going to be a very good keeper for sure
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The thing that bothers me on this forum is the utter reluctance of the constantly positive ones refusing to accept any criticism of the performances by posters that can see the weaknesses. It’s almost as if people cant be objective anymore and the only view that rules is ‘we are second’… ‘look where we were last season’ etc.
Well it’s not last season, we gave it the big’un about winning the league in pre-season and so far we aren’t delivering. Big improvement needed because that was utter dross today.
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
True to form your 'negativity' word comes out again. You really seem to struggle with posters having opinions & concerns regarding performances. Everyone seems to be happy with the league position & the 3 points today I for one am chuffed to bits, the performance however was truly awful.
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TSL is better on crosses than TLT. Distribution better too. Going to be a very good keeper for sure
As much as I would love TLT back as a permenant signing TSL is out of contract in summer aswell.
I just want a good permanent keeper, not searching for the next loanee every time.
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The thing that bothers me on this forum is the utter reluctance of the constantly positive ones refusing to accept any criticism of the performances by posters that can see the weaknesses. It’s almost as if people cant be objective anymore and the only view that rules is ‘we are second’… ‘look where we were last season’ etc.
Well it’s not last season, we gave it the big’un about winning the league in pre-season and so far we aren’t delivering. Big improvement needed because that was utter dross today.
Another top post, performances need to improve, don't really care what the positive police come out with, yes but where we're we, back in the SOD days, Saunders, blah blah blah.
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The thing that bothers me on this forum is the utter reluctance of the constantly positive ones refusing to accept any criticism of the performances by posters that can see the weaknesses. It’s almost as if people cant be objective anymore and the only view that rules is ‘we are second’… ‘look where we were last season’ etc.
Well it’s not last season, we gave it the big’un about winning the league in pre-season and so far we aren’t delivering. Big improvement needed because that was utter dross today.
Another top post, performances need to improve, don't really care what the positive police come out with, yes but where we're we, back in the SOD days, Saunders, blah blah blah.
It's a beautiful language Patrick :laugh:
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The thing that bothers me on this forum is the utter reluctance of the constantly positive ones refusing to accept any criticism of the performances by posters that can see the weaknesses. It’s almost as if people cant be objective anymore and the only view that rules is ‘we are second’… ‘look where we were last season’ etc.
Well it’s not last season, we gave it the big’un about winning the league in pre-season and so far we aren’t delivering. Big improvement needed because that was utter dross today.
It wasn't a great performance, we aren't a great team and we aren't in a great league.
I have no issue with detailed intelligent and knowledgeable critique of any performance, which in fairness CC you normally give. What does my nut in is the mindless negative drivel from a number on here.
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The thing that bothers me on this forum is the utter reluctance of the constantly positive ones refusing to accept any criticism of the performances by posters that can see the weaknesses. It’s almost as if people cant be objective anymore and the only view that rules is ‘we are second’… ‘look where we were last season’ etc.
Well it’s not last season, we gave it the big’un about winning the league in pre-season and so far we aren’t delivering. Big improvement needed because that was utter dross today.
Another top post, performances need to improve, don't really care what the positive police come out with, yes but where we're we, back in the SOD days, Saunders, blah blah blah.
You can be both! You can be constructively critical of performances but still positive that improvement will come. Or you can type negative unhelpful stuff that is detrimental to the team confidence. Stay positive and support the club/team
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
True to form your 'negativity' word comes out again. You really seem to struggle with posters having opinions & concerns regarding performances. Everyone seems to be happy with the league position & the 3 points today I for one am chuffed to bits, the performance however was truly awful.
If you don’t think this thread is negative then I don’t know what else to say,
I didn’t bring up sod, it was more negative drivel regarding performances that brought it up.
Performances are nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, Tranmere was a good performance, first half against Walsall we were good and the first half against Colchester we were very good,
We’ve got 7 points from 4 games.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
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I agree that the performance wasn't the best but some of the words used to describe it on this thread.....woeful, hopeless, abject etc are a bit over the top....surely?
I think we look strong defensively. Most of the goals we have conceded recently have been down to mistakes. We are not as fluid as we were at the back end of last season and start of this but I think a big part of this is that opponents recognise that the best way to beat us is to stop us playing. I do think we need a bit more quality in midfield though and this is the biggest concern for me at present.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
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I agree that the performance wasn't the best but some of the words used to describe it on this thread.....woeful, hopeless, abject etc are a bit over the top....surely?
I think we look strong defensively. Most of the goals we have conceded recently have been down to mistakes. We are not as fluid as we were at the back end of last season and start of this but I think a big part of this is that opponents recognise that the best way to beat us is to stop us playing. I do think we need a bit more quality in midfield though and this is the biggest concern for me at present.
Steady on pal, all the divvies in here will throw you in the "happy clappers" club :chair:
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
True to form your 'negativity' word comes out again. You really seem to struggle with posters having opinions & concerns regarding performances. Everyone seems to be happy with the league position & the 3 points today I for one am chuffed to bits, the performance however was truly awful.
If you don’t think this thread is negative then I don’t know what else to say,
I didn’t bring up sod, it was more negative drivel regarding performances that brought it up.
Performances are nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, Tranmere was a good performance, first half against Walsall we were good and the first half against Colchester we were very good,
We’ve got 7 points from 4 games.
Exactly, as I said you have trouble understanding other posters concerns & opinions without using the negative slant. I have read nothing on this thread that is negative. Just posters opinions on what they have witnessed, they are allowed, it's a forum.
Performances at home have been below par since September. That performance today was rubbish.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
True to form your 'negativity' word comes out again. You really seem to struggle with posters having opinions & concerns regarding performances. Everyone seems to be happy with the league position & the 3 points today I for one am chuffed to bits, the performance however was truly awful.
If you don’t think this thread is negative then I don’t know what else to say,
I didn’t bring up sod, it was more negative drivel regarding performances that brought it up.
Performances are nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, Tranmere was a good performance, first half against Walsall we were good and the first half against Colchester we were very good,
We’ve got 7 points from 4 games.
Exactly, as I said you have trouble understanding other posters concerns & opinions without using the negative slant. I have read nothing on this thread that is negative. Just posters opinions on what they have witnessed, they are allowed, it's a forum.
Performances at home have been below par since September. That performance today was rubbish.
As I said previously if you don’t think threads like this are negative then there’s not much else to say.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Here we go with the play with words like 'astounding' & summising quoting 'most people on here', total supposition. I'll say it again, posters on this thread are happy with the win today & the league position, but are questioning performances, what's 'astounding' about that.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Here we go with the play with words like 'astounding' & summising quoting 'most people on here', total supposition. I'll say it again, posters on this thread are happy with the win today & the league position, but are questioning performances, what's 'astounding' about that.
Of course they’re happy, you can’t pretend to support a football club and then portray yourself as being unhappy with a win.
But the fact it’s the same old people year in year out being negative, even after the 5th best calendar year in the clubs entire history. Then it becomes pretty evident that they’re only happy when they’re being negative
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Here we go with the play with words like 'astounding' & summising quoting 'most people on here', total supposition. I'll say it again, posters on this thread are happy with the win today & the league position, but are questioning performances, what's 'astounding' about that.
Of course they’re happy, you can’t pretend to support a football club and then portray yourself as being unhappy with a win.
But the fact it’s the same old people year in year out being negative, even after the 5th best calendar year in the clubs entire history. Then it becomes pretty evident that they’re only happy when they’re being negative
Nope wrong again, it's not about your favourite word 'negativity', it's about posters views on what they have witnessed, that's it. It's a forum. I bet a pound to a penny these 'negative' posters will be there on Saturday fully behind their team again.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Here we go with the play with words like 'astounding' & summising quoting 'most people on here', total supposition. I'll say it again, posters on this thread are happy with the win today & the league position, but are questioning performances, what's 'astounding' about that.
Of course they’re happy, you can’t pretend to support a football club and then portray yourself as being unhappy with a win.
But the fact it’s the same old people year in year out being negative, even after the 5th best calendar year in the clubs entire history. Then it becomes pretty evident that they’re only happy when they’re being negative
Nope wrong again, it's not about your favourite word 'negativity', it's about posters views on what they have witnessed, that's it. It's a forum. I bet a pound to a penny these 'negative' posters will be there on Saturday fully behind their team again.
Yep some of them will be and come win, lose or draw you’ll be back here moaning about it
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.
I never mentioned home or away nor did I ask what you thought of the performances. I invited you to look back through the threads before you call more and many others negative. You will find that i have been very complimentary in a lot of them. Even when we have drawn or lost. I praised the character in my first post on this thread but, all you saw was that I said what many others have said and here you are again balling your eyes out.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????
Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????
Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.
I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????
Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.
I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?
My point is we have dropped too many points at home because we struggle to break through a team that sits in. You should know my point, you have replied to both of my posts about it. Plantpot.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
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I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.
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I will say it again, I invite you to look back through the entirity of the forum and you will not find me being continually critical or "negative" throughout every post regardless of the result and performance. Just speaking of this season I have maintained that since the Chesterfield defeat a large portion of our home performances have been below what I believe standards should be for a team with ambitions of winning the league and McCann sets us up better away as performances have been really good. If anybody can look at our away performances and say they are not pleased then I would agree with you that they are negative. But you cant argue that home form we have fell short and dropped too many points. Some posters will say when they think weve played well, when weve played sh!t and be even more disgruntled when the team have performed poorly over a period of time. But yet again you just cant hack that.
Being the home and away team are two very different situations........and therefore present different challenges? Maybe teams are more defensive when they come to our place and we can't break it? Away from home we win more because they can't be defensive infront of a home crowd?????
Youve just answered the reason why we have dropped too many points at home. We cant break a low block. They wont just come to us and play that way you know? This is what im saying, we need to find a way and upto now we are still struggling with it. McCanns said so in his post match interview tonight.
I agree, we struggle with a low block, I've said that for the last 2 years. Not sure what point your trying to make with this?
My point is we have dropped too many points at home because we struggle to break through a team that sits in. You should know my point, you have replied to both of my posts about it. Plantpot.
I do agree fella, as soon as someone sits in we don't know what to do.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.
It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?
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This is exactly what im trying to say. If anybody cares to look back through threads from the games since Chesterfield or even Morecambe where we struggled, the signs were there then and had McCann found a way to play against it then we wouldnt be having this discussion. Not saying its easily sorted but lets face it, he gets paid to find a way and we pay to watch it so I am entitled to that opinion but some people seem to think you are negative for saying it.
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This is exactly what im trying to say. If anybody cares to look back through threads from the games since Chesterfield or even Morecambe where we struggled, the signs were there then and had McCann found a way to play against it then we wouldnt be having this discussion. Not saying its easily sorted but lets face it, he gets paid to find a way and we pay to watch it so I am entitled to that opinion but some people seem to think you are negative for saying it.
When you word it like that I agree.....but he is paid to get us promoted and at the minute we are where we need to be having not played great, hence my trying to be positive on the situation
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.
It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?
Nope. As i have just said previously i have praised when we have lost or drawn and the threads in the archives will prove that. My comments are always on what i thought of the performance and thats whether we win lose or draw. Currently i believe the home form has let us down and its frustrating that we havent got that right and given ourselves some breathing space because we really should have. Bromley, Crewe, Cheltenham, Salford are all games where we have dropped points that we shouldnt have. Obviously i am aware youre not going to win every game but speaking purely on performances weve not looked like promotion candidates and that needs to change if we want to finish in that 3.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.
It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?
Nope. As i have just said previously i have praised when we have lost or drawn and the threads in the archives will prove that. My comments are always on what i thought of the performance and thats whether we win lose or draw. Currently i believe the home form has let us down and its frustrating that we havent got that right and given ourselves some breathing space because we really should have. Bromley, Crewe, Cheltenham, Salford are all games where we have dropped points that we shouldnt have. Obviously i am aware youre not going to win every game but speaking purely on performances weve not looked like promotion candidates and that needs to change if we want to finish in that 3.
I understand that and for anyone wanting to go up home should be a fortress BUT that said and as poor as we have played at times we are in a poor league so we ARE promotion candidates! Some work in January and we kick on to cement our place we already have....whereas last year we were miles off it at this point.
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.
We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….
We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'
If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.
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TSL is better on crosses than TLT. Distribution better too. Going to be a very good keeper for sure
TSL getting better and better each game he plays and it's a pleasure to watch. Same as Olowu. Kelly improving too but on a bit of a slower trajectory
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This is a forum and it’s always good to read other fans views.
However what concerns me is that many are accepting the poor play/tactics, just because we are second in the table.
The leaders are some 12 points clear of the champions spot, which Grant has always stated he wants. However many teams below us are now much closer and indeed could take us out of the top 3 with game in hand.
We can’t mask we have a problem which needs resolving.
Ok still acceptable to play from the back but do it much more quicker and ensure we are moving forward instead of all the sideward/backwards passes.
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We need to put peddle to the metal on Saturday. Given Port Vales current run we can't have this slow, laboured, rigid look about us. The lack of movement when any of our defenders have the ball really is worrying. Its happening in every game. Its more baffling that its not as though the other team close the space because it is there for them to run into. Can only put this down to not having a settled midfield. He needs to stick with the 3 that started yesterday for a while and I get the feeling thats what will happen.
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I don’t think it’s a case of accepting poor play but, whilst it is not entirely clear, I think the anti-negative brigade are arguing that there has been too much criticism given league position. They do seem to allow for some recognition that things could be better, but there appears to be a line, for which they are the judge, beyond which criticism should not be tolerated. There is an implication that overly critical supporters want the club to fail, or are otherwise not worthy. They frequently repeat the same points in case we didn’t understand them the first few times, and sometimes turn abusive to emphasise their point.
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.
We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….
We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league
I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?
The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.
As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".
I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.
The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.
We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….
We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league
I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?
The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.
As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".
I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.
The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.
Football and tactics have drastically changed from the Dave Penney era. How many teams back then were playing a low block and playing out from the back all the time?
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'
If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.
Surely there's room in the pram for the toys as well?
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If a long ball went forward for Ironside he wouldn't get to it, he is too slow. There4 seems to be a fear of going forward, the number of times in the first half Sterry got the ball, with Molyneux forward of him, and chose to turn and pass back. If there is an acceptance of mistakes made passing the ball around at the back, trying to go forward should have the same status and be tried all the time? We simply break forward too slow to catch the weakest of teams out. Second place and not even out of first gear, what should be done with the second half of the season?!
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Whilst I wouldn’t advocate a long kick being our tactic, we just don’t use the long kick at all, even when we are being restricted to playing in our half. In many of the home games we have been held in our half by what many would consider to be mediocre opposition.
At least the long kick would see us battling for the ball in the final third, and thus take the opponent’s dominated press off.
What’s needed is for us to play out of the back quickly, this also means we need players to find space to accept these quick passers. At present there is very little movement, all the people around me in the south stand were viewing this total lack of movement in front of our defence.
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
Cos our fanbase is laughable sometime and no matter who is in charge or playing they can’t win, as there’s always some negative Nancy on here and on X who complains about everything.
We could be top of the league winning every game 5-0 and there will be still be a portion of fans moaning cos molyneux couldn’t beat his man or that we should’ve won 6-0. It really is tiresome….
We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch. That’s being a realist, would I want us to play like Man City and have entertaining football? Sure. Realistically though it’s not going to happen in this league
I believe you have it quite wrong, a thread like this is not being a negative nancy?
The thread title tells it all, that was a hard watch, expectations have been built up since the run last year, the club led this charge and people have brought into it, when you couple this with the squad we have in this league then its quite normal for expectations to be raised that we should be having a good season The fact we sit in the playoffs is more down to the terrible consistency of most of the teams in this league, if we had hit anything like what was expected we should be running away from the rest alongside Walsall. The fact we aren't has many people puzzled, be it down to team selection, tactics,or formations, the fact we have doing most of these things in the same games tells you plenty about what's happening at the club.
As for "We are a league two team with league two players and it’s a horrible league to watch".
I recall Dave Penny played some of the best and exciting football i've ever seen at the Rovers with what were league two players, who were all on a pittance in comparison to what we are shelling out now. It can be done and good attacking football that's a pleasure to watch can be achieved in any league, even this one.
The fact its not currently with the players we have is a concern for many.
Football and tactics have drastically changed from the Dave Penney era. How many teams back then were playing a low block and playing out from the back all the time?
You've answered your own question.
Football and tactics change all the time, teams have played possession football for as long as teams have played route one. "Playing a low block" is not something that's just appeared as some seem to believe, you can call it a different name but it doesn't suddenly make it something new.
At this moment in time we are controlled by the thoughts and whims of GM and his team, our next manager might have a different take on it, its all relative, sometimes its just down to the players you have or inherit.
Lets not try to make it into a science, its a game of pass and move with a ball, you play with what you have and to the strengths of your team, this is one of the reasons why many are concerned. Is GM making the best use of the resources to hand?
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If that's the best you can come up, with you boring lot, then it's time to do what you threatened did you think that was a classic game of football? At times it was like watching both teams play Sunday morning football after a New Years eve on the p!ss
It is getting boring listening to the negativity
I didn't 'threaten' anything
No I don't think it was a classic game of football, but I'm also not expecting to see lots of quality classic football in League 2, I'm a realist.
:byebye:
"I'm getting fed up Of this place and getting seriously close to binning it off forever.
So much ridiculous sh*te and unbelievable amount of negativity"
What's this then?
A statement. A threat would be 'if you don't stop talking so much sh*te I'm binning it off'
If you think that's is a threat you need to get out more.
Surely there's room in the pram for the toys as well?
Cant hold a debate then? :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.
OK then I will, good performances at home in the league since September?
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
How is it not possible? When we haven't played well yet, we aren't out of 2nd gear, and we are in automatic promotion places????.........
Firstly you are using the terminology "2nd gear" because McCann keeps using it. What even is 2nd gear in football? If we have 1st gear dont you think we should be using it being halfway through the season? We might actually finish with a promotion that way. Anyway... it is actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion.
I don't use second gear because Grant said it......he didn't invent the saying.
It is not "actually impossible for a team to never play well all season long and earn promotion" from your posts we have done it so far and we are up there?
Plantpot
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I must have missed the part where I said we have played crap all season and also the other part where we have got promoted.
It's the accumulation of comments that lean towards us being crap so far.......and the other part where we have got promoted hasn't happened yet nor have I claimed that?
Accumulation? It's posters opinions, it's a forum.
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
What is?
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
What is?
Your post
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.
OK then I will, good performances at home in the league since September?
Our home form is the 6th best in the division, recent good performances for me would be notts county and tranmere, Crewe was also decent
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
What is?
Your post
Go on then enlighten me.
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Agreed it’s another really poor performance masked by Billy Sharp doing what Billy Sharp does best. McCann did say he had a team that will go to the very end and that was proven today. A couple of new faces and a win on Saturday could really kickstart the season.
We’re sat in 2nd, the season doesn’t need kickstarting
How many threads do you wanna post on til you realise the performances won’t keep us the? Happy clapper.
You keep saying that, but we’ve got 7 points from 4 games over Xmas.
You keeping hoping it won’t keep us there and let’s just wait and see, we’re nowhere near as bad as you’re making out, nowhere near
Why on earth would I hope we don't stay where we are? Just because we disagree does not mean I want us to fail. You are actually more ridiculous than I thought you were. The fact is we are very likely to not be in the top 3 IF performances remain as they have been for quite some time now. And yes we are actually playing THAT bad. Happy clapper.
No, they actually aren’t playing that bad.
Nowhere near as bad as you’re making out.
The fact that you have just said Tranmere and Walsall was a good perfomance just sums up to me that i will never agree with whatever it is you think you are watching and for that, I will leave you to live in that world you are living in. And i just know you are about to say Im ridiculous because we won.
Most on here also thought Tranmere was a good performance and the first half at Walsall.
You’re pissing and whining about two home games where we won 3-1 and 2-1. It’s astounding
Do yourself a favour and scroll back through all the posts throughout the season since we lost to Chesterfield before you continue to spout rubbish.
Bradford away, notts county, Fleetwood away, all good performances in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier
The home games since September?
Your man never mentioned home games, I also missed the Grimsby game out. So in actual fact there have been some very good performances since the chesterfield game.
OK then I will, good performances at home in the league since September?
Our home form is the 6th best in the division, recent good performances for me would be notts county and tranmere, Crewe was also decent
I said performances, I'll give you Notts County, Tranmere & Crewe were bang average. I am very happy we are 2nd though!
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Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
Nope, no moaning from me, just commenting on games as I see them, & praising us when we play well.
If we play sh*t all season but get promoted would you be praising us????
Thats not even possible.
Well it must be! Because according to you we’ve played 24 games and been shite yet we’re 2nd in the table. Do the same for the next 22 games and we’re promoted
Fabrication again, only you has said we have played shi!te for 24 games, true to form again your now trying to twist the argument with your imaginary quotes.
Incorrect in both content and reference :byebye:
What is?
Your post
Go on then enlighten me.
The content and references in your post are an inaccurate fallacy.
I'm not sure exactly how much enlightening I can do?
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Les. Don’t you think that we were the better team against Notts. County for an hour or so? We also had a stonewall penalty turned down in the first half and a possible second penalty late on. We certainly had them rattled once we sussed them out.
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Les. Don’t you think that we were the better team against Notts. County for an hour or so? We also had a stonewall penalty turned down in the first half and a possible second penalty late on. We certainly had them rattled once we sussed them out.
Yes idler I do, we were the better side in that game, but that's the only game for me.
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I have no idea what you are on about. I replied to the post regarding us being sh!t for 24 games. Point me towards who posted that, otherwise it's fabrication.
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I have no idea what you are on about. I replied to the post regarding us being sh!t for 24 games. Point me towards who posted that, otherwise it's fabrication.
And your at it again?
I have not said we have been sh*t for 24 games.
Not sure why you are trying to pick an argument with me? Surely you have better things to do? I know I do.
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Sorry chaps. Les argues with almost everybody. I suspect it's the only thing in his life. He's on this forum often enough...
BobG
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At it again? Really? I was replying to the 24 games comment by Dickos, not your post.
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See what I mean?
BobG
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Sorry chaps. Les argues with almost everybody. I suspect it's the only thing in his life. He's on this forum often enough...
BobG
Oh dear Bob, bit of a sweeping comment, & an untrue one, I don't argue with almost everone now do I, that's a bit childish. I do put my opinion across though, like everyone on here.
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The big picture deals in taking in the macro perspective rather than minutiae.
BobG
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The negativity is unbelievable on here,
New Year’s Day and 2nd in the table, we would’ve been over the moon with that in July
Cmon...you know if performances aren't great there's only so long we can go.
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But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
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But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
You can get results without good performances.
You can perform efficiently with the optics of it all looking poor.
We are in “second gear” according to Grant. The chances of either staying in second or moving down to first are equally as likely as going up to third and beyond.
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But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
You can get results without good performances.
You can perform efficiently with the optics of it all looking poor.
We are in “second gear” according to Grant. The chances of either staying in second or moving down to first are equally as likely as going up to third and beyond.
Really?
Don’t you think Grant & the board won’t move heaven & earth to get us ‘out of second gear’?
This is a division packed with mediocre players (we still carry a couple ourselves which will hopefully be addressed sooner than later) & teams. GM will not want to be managing in it for yet another season & I expect him to make the necessary signings this month so that we at last kick on to automatic promotion.
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But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
You can get results without good performances.
You can perform efficiently with the optics of it all looking poor.
We are in “second gear” according to Grant. The chances of either staying in second or moving down to first are equally as likely as going up to third and beyond.
Of course you can, that’s my point!
People saying we won’t stay in 2nd if we keep playing like this are just contradicting themselves, as we’re in 2nd after 24 games playing like this.
With the manager and players we’ve got I think it’s much more unlikely that we would drop down a gear than up, but I guess it’s just whether you’re a half empty or half full type of bloke
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Or a say what you see kind of bloke.
But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
You can get results without good performances.
You can perform efficiently with the optics of it all looking poor.
We are in “second gear” according to Grant. The chances of either staying in second or moving down to first are equally as likely as going up to third and beyond.
Of course you can, that’s my point!
People saying we won’t stay in 2nd if we keep playing like this are just contradicting themselves, as we’re in 2nd after 24 games playing like this.
With the manager and players we’ve got I think it’s much more unlikely that we would drop down a gear than up, but I guess it’s just whether you’re a half empty or half full type of bloke
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Or a say what you see kind of bloke.
But the performances can’t be as bad as what you’re saying can they if we’re 2nd in the table after 24 games, especially if you’re saying if performances aren’t great there’s only so long we can go.
It’s a contradiction
You can get results without good performances.
You can perform efficiently with the optics of it all looking poor.
We are in “second gear” according to Grant. The chances of either staying in second or moving down to first are equally as likely as going up to third and beyond.
Of course you can, that’s my point!
People saying we won’t stay in 2nd if we keep playing like this are just contradicting themselves, as we’re in 2nd after 24 games playing like this.
With the manager and players we’ve got I think it’s much more unlikely that we would drop down a gear than up, but I guess it’s just whether you’re a half empty or half full type of bloke
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3 pts in the bag but that was poor and yet again we gift wrap a goal
Were making progress , there hasn’t been many games where we’ve come out on top after that type of struggle . If the January window is going to help it has to provide experience up front and a Woods return would be very helpful!!