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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: roversdude on February 15, 2025, 03:13:47 pm
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Words fail me - how poor was he may as well have let the keeper hold the ball for the whole game.
Missed a handball when we were pressing and they had a nailed on pen just before the second goal
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
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Was Moly offside for the disallowed goal? Looked on from where we were but admittedly not in line.
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Was our disallowed goal offside? Did anyone have a better view than me?
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Flag was up ages before the ball was in the net.
For what it’s worth I’m not blaming the ref for us losing - we lost because we were crap today, however that officiating was poor
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Not offside for me
And the 6 minutes added time, 4 of those minutes were wasted by the keeper
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
So you think he had a decent game ?
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
How is he blaming the ref for our poor performance? Ref was crap. So were we.
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Not offside for me
And the 6 minutes added time, 4 of those minutes were wasted by the keeper
He was way off Filo…
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Was Moly offside for the disallowed goal? Looked on from where we were but admittedly not in line.
watched a replay the players in the middle played him onside
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Molyneux was miles offside for me right in front of us.
The time wasting was super frustrating, refs need to get a grip, can't fail Grimsby for it at all.
The sooner they stop these tactical injuries the better. Really hurt us today. We do it aswell by the way but it's frustrating for spectators.
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Was our disallowed goal offside? Did anyone have a better view than me?
I was sat in line and he was offside, I never bothered to cheer when we scored the decision was correct
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Molyneux was miles offside for me right in front of us.
The time wasting was super frustrating, refs need to get a grip, can't fail Grimsby for it at all.
The sooner they stop these tactical injuries the better. Really hurt us today. We do it aswell by the way but it's frustrating for spectators.
In the past we have been guilty of much worse time-wasting than we saw from Grimsby today. The worst time-wasters today were our own players who messed about passing the ball around their own half instead of playing constructively. So much of it is without purpose with no one courageous enough to take responsibilty.
There is no way to “stop” tactical injuries. All the ref can do is add another 30 seconds or more each time to cover them and the you question whether these minor additions (which mount up) are actually made.
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If there’s one thing we can take as a constant ,at this level, it’s the officials being poor. It’s almost every home game and probably most away!
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
So you think he had a decent game ?
I thought he was pretty consistent and tried to let the game flow
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
So you think he had a decent game ?
I thought he was pretty consistent and tried to let the game flow
Fair enough all about opinions
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Molyneux was miles offside for me right in front of us.
The time wasting was super frustrating, refs need to get a grip, can't fail Grimsby for it at all.
The sooner they stop these tactical injuries the better. Really hurt us today. We do it aswell by the way but it's frustrating for spectators.
In the past we have been guilty of much worse time-wasting than we saw from Grimsby today. The worst time-wasters today were our own players who messed about passing the ball around their own half instead of playing constructively. So much of it is without purpose with no one courageous enough to take responsibilty.
There is no way to “stop” tactical injuries. All the ref can do is add another 30 seconds or more each time to cover them and the you question whether these minor additions (which mount up) are actually made.
When have we done much worse time wasting? Certainly not under McCann
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
So you think he had a decent game ?
I thought he was pretty consistent and tried to let the game flow
Fair enough all about opinions
Agreed. I think consistency is the key word, you can be consistently good or consistently bad but if you maintain the same level or standards throughout the game I suppose you can't really argue to a degree. The standard of officiating is bad enough at top level even with the assistance of VAR so for a L2 ref I thought he was good
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What about when there player was ragged in our area.He missed that one and the linesman could not see.
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What about when there player was ragged in our area.He missed that one and the linesman could not see.
I'd like to see it again but at first glance it looked naughty from us, I think from the refs point of view he was blindsided by a group of bodies but you'd expect the lino to step up and help out unfortunately they're all weak as piss in this division.
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To be fair I don't think ref or lino got a good view of it but I'd thought I'd subscribed to WWF for a minute .
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
It’s not a case of blaming the ref for our defeat, he was totally useless.
There was a definite handball, multiple fouls given when our players clearly won the ball fairly. There players went to ground and he bought it on numerous times.
He was aware their keeper was wasting time early in the game, and should have given a yellow, which would’ve likely put an end to it.
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
It’s not a case of blaming the ref for our defeat, he was totally useless.
There was a definite handball, multiple fouls given when our players clearly won the ball fairly. There players went to ground and he bought it on numerous times.
He was aware their keeper was wasting time early in the game, and should have given a yellow, which would’ve likely put an end to it.
We were the best team for the 1st 15 minutes Artell and Rose knew this that's why Rose went to ground feigning injury, bought them the necessary time to reshuffle. Was a great bit of gamesmanship and gave Artell chance to tactically outmanoeuvre our manager. If it was the other way around we'd be all on here lauding it.
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The ref was'nt that bad.It was the team that was awful.He was better than that ref against Chesterfield at home or Trevor Kettle's son the other week.
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Molyneux was miles offside for me right in front of us.
The time wasting was super frustrating, refs need to get a grip, can't fail Grimsby for it at all.
The sooner they stop these tactical injuries the better. Really hurt us today. We do it aswell by the way but it's frustrating for spectators.
In the past we have been guilty of much worse time-wasting than we saw from Grimsby today. The worst time-wasters today were our own players who messed about passing the ball around their own half instead of playing constructively. So much of it is without purpose with no one courageous enough to take responsibilty.
There is no way to “stop” tactical injuries. All the ref can do is add another 30 seconds or more each time to cover them and the you question whether these minor additions (which mount up) are actually made.
When have we done much worse time wasting? Certainly not under McCann
I’m not surprised that you haven’t noticed.
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Blaming the ref again lol,nothing said for a blatant pull back of their man in the 1st half that should of been a penalty,yes keeper was time wasting but every team does it including us
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I think the ref saw it but the ball was miles away at the time so no chance of the player getting any way near it. Isn't that the new ruling this season for this type of situation
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Definitely not when it’s in open play no and the ball wasn’t miles away from the incident either,too many fans at times think they are better referees or assistants you only have to look at Mondays goals half of the south stand thought both goals were offside.
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I don't think he was awful, didn't deal with their keepers time wasting though, told him to hurry up several times in injury time, that warranted a booking for me.
We got away with a penno too in my opinion
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Yeah let's blame the ref every week for how poor we are
It’s not a case of blaming the ref for our defeat, he was totally useless.
There was a definite handball, multiple fouls given when our players clearly won the ball fairly. There players went to ground and he bought it on numerous times.
He was aware their keeper was wasting time early in the game, and should have given a yellow, which would’ve likely put an end to it.
We were the best team for the 1st 15 minutes Artell and Rose knew this that's why Rose went to ground feigning injury, bought them the necessary time to reshuffle. Was a great bit of gamesmanship and gave Artell chance to tactically outmanoeuvre our manager. If it was the other way around we'd be all on here lauding it.
Port Vale did the exact same thing this season. We did it at Crawley last season Timmy went down “injured” and we reshuffled.
The ref was a little frustrating today but we played awful. Goes to show how bad the league is when you play as bad as that and nearly get a draw!
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I know that some refs like to let things go early in the game, not getting the cards out for shirt pulling and time wasting etc.
However i do think that they could put a marker down early for things like time wasting or niggly fouls and that tells the players they are not going to stand for it.
The bloke today let too much go unpunished early on and so the players took advantage of his weakness.
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He was pretty poor but for both sides. Several times he was conned by players throwing themselves to the ground
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too
And what really boils my pi** is when he waited for the goalie to put the ball down and kick it so he could blow the whistle, i've never understood why this has to happen, could he not just blow before the keeper kicked the bloody thing! Just what does it achieve, the players are already in the middle of the pitch.
Its like the rule where a keeper can fetch the ball back from the right hand side of the goal and place it on the 6 yard line on the left, just what is the point of that, why can't they just take the kick from whichever side it goes out like they used to? would have saved about 3 mins today.
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too
And what really boils my pi** is when he waited for the goalie to put the ball down and kick it so he could blow the whistle, i've never understood why this has to happen, could he not just blow before the keeper kicked the bloody thing! Just what does it achieve, the players are already in the middle of the pitch.
Its like the rule where a keeper can fetch the ball back from the right hand side of the goal and place it on the 6 yard line on the left, just what is the point of that, why can't they just take the kick from whichever side it goes out like they used to? would have saved about 3 mins today.
The ironic thing about that goal kick rule is that it was brought in to speed up getting the ball back in play.
What about when the keeper jogged to half way to take a free kick then changed his mind and went back while another player took the kick.
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
For me this is something the Fa or FIFA need to look at, why not just have a stop watch that stops every time the ball is inactive for whatever reason? Would just cut out any unnecessary time wasting surely? There's a lot of pressure on referees and what I will say is that personally I find it easier to spot things high up in the stands as opposed to pitch level or in game with bodies running across you etc. Maybe it would be beneficial to have another official up in the stands to help coordinate with the on field officials?
Other sports like rugby , cricket for example the level of officiating seems far more advanced especially with the help of technology.
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There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?
Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?
For me this is something the Fa or FIFA need to look at, why not just have a stop watch that stops every time the ball is inactive for whatever reason? Would just cut out any unnecessary time wasting surely? There's a lot of pressure on referees and what I will say is that personally I find it easier to spot things high up in the stands as opposed to pitch level or in game with bodies running across you etc. Maybe it would be beneficial to have another official up in the stands to help coordinate with the on field officials?
Other sports like rugby , cricket for example the level of officiating seems far more advanced especially with the help of technology.
Unfortunately football like life in general is being regulated to death by people who think they are making things better but conversely make everything worse. Not sure what it is with the football authorities but every time they make a change it just makes everything worse!
Less has always been more, football is a prime example of tinkering with a game causing it to become a very reduced spectical than what it was previously.
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Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
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Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
It still stands ,but a trial in Italy u20 games will give the opposite team a corner if the goalie holds onto the ball too long, the referee should put his hand up as a count down for 5 seconds left.
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Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
I believe it changed from 8 seconds to a reasonable time allowed by the referee
6 second rule wasn’t it? Why they ever changed that I’ll never know. Sure Andy Williams use to count with his fingers in the air to make the referee aware of the seconds :lol:
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Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
I believe it changed from 8 seconds to a reasonable time allowed by the referee
6 second rule wasn’t it? Why they ever changed that I’ll never know. Sure Andy Williams use to count with his fingers in the air to make the referee aware of the seconds :lol:
I don’t remember Andy doing that Karl but I bet it didn’t make the refs do anything about it if the keepers didn’t get the ball back into play quickly enough.
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And don't forget the Keepers time doesn't start till he's holding the ball
That's why they stand for a minute ( maybe more ) until an opposition player comes towards them , and then they pick it up and the countdown "starts" or as we have decided seems to have been abandoned
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What happened to the long periods of added time we were having at the start of last season? At least then there was a consequence for time wasting
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I look at these incidents in a different way because most supporters have a view from above, it’s a lot different from being at ground level for the officials, the same applies to the players, I often hear people around me that criticise the players for not passing to an unmarked player, we can see the unmarked player but it’s unlikely that the player with the ball can.
Also I hear people slagging off our players and deem them as effin useless, please be aware that we’re not in the premier league and paying ridiculous fees for skilled players, we’re in the fourth division.
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I look at these incidents in a different way because most supporters have a view from above, it’s a lot different from being at ground level for the officials, the same applies to the players, I often hear people around me that criticise the players for not passing to an unmarked player, we can see the unmarked player but it’s unlikely that the player with the ball can.
Also I hear people slagging off our players and deem them as effin useless, please be aware that we’re not in the premier league and paying ridiculous fees for skilled players, we’re in the fourth division.
……..and those fourth division players are, in the main, many many times better than some of the people who are calling them useless.
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He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .
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He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .
Yep, we have all heard the term “good teams find a way to win”.
It is notable isn’t it that we have quite a few fans who seem to look for things to criticise even when we win matches.
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From a professional point of view, if I was in charge of a club, I ban any talk or thought of referees. They are what they are, you can’t affect how they referee games. Complete waste of energy taking about them.
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He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .
Yep, we have all heard the term “good teams find a way to win”.
It is notable isn’t it that we have quite a few fans who seem to look for things to criticise even when we win matches.
And a few who only appear when we lose
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What happened to the long periods of added time we were having at the start of last season? At least then there was a consequence for time wasting
Pep and Klopp cried about it.
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The fourth official announced 7 minutes of added time today, and the referee played 10.
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The fourth official announced 7 minutes of added time today, and the referee played 10.
Was there anything that could have justified playing that much extra? Given it’s a minimum added time, any injuries/subs/stoppages that meant play had to carry on an extra 2 mins?
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We made 2 subs and a booking for wasting time
COYR
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Yeah it took TSL a good minute to take one kick, fine to add it on. A shame other refs haven't been doing it.
I think we've been hard done by this season by refs, hopefully our luck will come when it matters.
The red was just a 60-40 in favour of red for me, just a bit reckless. But I also thought their guy was very lucky to only get yellow for lashing out. Bar that I thought the referee was alright.
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60 40 Red. He gave Ref a decision to make as the Pundits say
100 0 Red when Whalley booted Sterry. Gave Lino a decision to make it seems. Ref was as close to both but abdicated responsibility on this judgement
40 - 60 that Street fouled their Keeper early doors. For me it was entirely the other was round
100 0 correct to Yellow Card Street for dissent a few minutes later
0 100 for ignoring several ( not just 1 or 2 ) Stanley players for dissent equal to the Street dissent which it seemed did not warrant same punishment. There were waved arms , getting in his face and straight forward "pointing" at him
100 0 inconsistent
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60 40 Red. He gave Ref a decision to make as the Pundits say
100 0 Red when Whalley booted Sterry. Gave Lino a decision to make it seems. Ref was as close to both but abdicated responsibility on this judgement
40 - 60 that Street fouled their Keeper early doors. For me it was entirely the other was round
100 0 correct to Yellow Card Street for dissent a few minutes later
0 100 for ignoring several ( not just 1 or 2 ) Stanley players for dissent equal to the Street dissent which it seemed did not warrant same punishment. There were waved arms , getting in his face and straight forward "pointing" at him
100 0 inconsistent
when street was through on goal he gave it for handball not a foul on the keeper was in the seats it was a handball
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Cheers ... didn't spot that and glad to be corrected. :thumbsup:
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What was Bailey booked for?
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Wearing a white shirt
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I thought the ref was decent to start off with but he just seemed to lose it.
Agree with DW’s analysis- Whalley was a nailed on red but he bottled that one, Stanley knew that too and subbed him just after
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The Street booking was beyond belief, he had every right to protest after he'd just been blatantly wrestled to the floor right in front of the ref. I thought that may have come back to bite us the way Street puts himself about up front .
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The fourth official announced 7 minutes of added time today, and the referee played 10.
yes
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The Street booking was beyond belief, he had every right to protest after he'd just been blatantly wrestled to the floor right in front of the ref. I thought that may have come back to bite us the way Street puts himself about up front .
he was booked for the constant fouls he had done and not for moaning about it,although a couple of the fouls shouldn’t have been
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The Street booking was beyond belief, he had every right to protest after he'd just been blatantly wrestled to the floor right in front of the ref. I thought that may have come back to bite us the way Street puts himself about up front .
he was booked for the constant fouls he had done and not for moaning about it,although a couple of the fouls shouldn’t have been
Thanks, wasn't aware . I thought it was for dissent. Love the way he puts himself about up top though, a constant menace who doesn't let the defence have a minute.
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The early one which was given just inside the area early doors was a joke complete shoulder to shoulder thought he was very picky on sum of the fouls thought out and I’m usually on the side of the refs a lot of the time when fans moan about the decisions
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The Street booking was beyond belief, he had every right to protest after he'd just been blatantly wrestled to the floor right in front of the ref. I thought that may have come back to bite us the way Street puts himself about up front .
he was booked for the constant fouls he had done and not for moaning about it,although a couple of the fouls shouldn’t have been
Thanks, wasn't aware . I thought it was for dissent. Love the way he puts himself about up top though, a constant menace who doesn't let the defence have a minute.
He was booked for the hand ball he did which was blatant to see from the seats but not behind the goal
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The Street booking was beyond belief, he had every right to protest after he'd just been blatantly wrestled to the floor right in front of the ref. I thought that may have come back to bite us the way Street puts himself about up front .
he was booked for the constant fouls he had done and not for moaning about it,although a couple of the fouls shouldn’t have been
Thanks, wasn't aware . I thought it was for dissent. Love the way he puts himself about up top though, a constant menace who doesn't let the defence have a minute.
He was booked for the hand ball he did which was blatant to see from the seats but not behind the goal
definelty the numerous fouls s there player was moaning to the ref and then the ref held his hand up pointing to his fingers
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Darren Drysdale reffing Saturday vs Newport. Remember his name for some reason, and not just cos he’s local to me, but can’t remember if he’s terrible or totally f* k*ng awful! No doubt he’ll be one or the other??? :headbang:
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He’s the ref who clipped a player
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Ah right, I knew I recognised his name - he’s an RAF officer so just doing what comes naturally?
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Not quite clipped him https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/EPL/Ipswich-demand-investigation-into-referee-Darren-Drysdale-who-SQUARED-UP-to-a-player/2557241
He probably deserved it lol
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Isn’t he based in Lincolnshire somewhere ( Retford Rover ) knows where. He officiated one our games last season then in was same services on the way back, and if I remember rightly he’s got a black car with a private plate, something that ties in with his refereeing
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Didn't realise you had to be a referee to have a private plate on a black car.
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Didn't realise you had to be a referee to have a private plate on a black car.
You can be whatever you want to be, but I happened to notice it when he got out his car and strutted to the building.
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Sgt At RAF Waddington
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Its to be hoped Putin doesn't attack Saturday afternoon then.
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Sgt At RAF Waddington
We have a few RAF Waddington officers live in our village - I’ll see if I can have a quiet word with them to keep their sergeant in order on Saturday :whistle:
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Can't you get him confined to barracks??
BobG
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Put him in "jankers"