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Title: Adelakun
Post by: Pinter777 on May 04, 2025, 07:35:39 pm
Would we take him back? If street doesn’t come back and billy retires? Would he want to? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: The Dav on May 04, 2025, 07:37:40 pm
I don’t think Grant would touch him now, he had his chance and didn’t take his offer, that said one hell of a player for us !
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 04, 2025, 07:46:04 pm
I don’t think Grant would touch him now, he had his chance and didn’t take his offer, that said one hell of a player for us !

Plus, it wouldn't set a good example if he were to return. In rejecting the contract, he rejected the players and the fans. Togetherness means alot in our squad. It says on the walls, It’s the We not the Me.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: IDM on May 04, 2025, 07:46:54 pm
He couldn’t get a league one club for the season just gone.

Why.?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on May 04, 2025, 07:53:14 pm
i have just been watching the EFL highlights from yesterday Salford were 2-1 down and brought on Adelukan who scored a class goal ------ there must be something wrong with him/his relationships with Managers for him not to start in such a vital match

I was only half watching and thought who the hell is that who scored that class goal - then on the replay I realised  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 04, 2025, 07:55:05 pm
Yes 100%
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: TonySoprano on May 04, 2025, 08:09:58 pm
Like mcann said after the playoff defeat, if any player didn't want to come back to try and win the league, then call your agent and leave.

Adelakun probably didn't fancy working hard and going for it.
He went for the easy ride at Salford, poor attitude that keeps him from being a championship player.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: CJK on May 04, 2025, 08:13:08 pm
Why Adelakun when Malik Wilkes is available?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Padge_DRFC on May 04, 2025, 09:03:29 pm
McCann left and came back....
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: selby on May 06, 2025, 10:28:47 am
  There are more reasons for us to be after  him than not
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: redarmi66 on May 06, 2025, 11:36:33 am
Like mcann said after the playoff defeat, if any player didn't want to come back to try and win the league, then call your agent and leave.

Adelakun probably didn't fancy working hard and going for it.
He went for the easy ride at Salford, poor attitude that keeps him from being a championship player.
I would imagine the truth is that his agent thought he could get a better deal for him than we offered. In the end im certain that did not work out too good for him. But you take your chances and live with it. Not sure Grant would have him back. Was very dismissive of him once he had decided not to sign.Not sure he even had a firm offer from another club when he turned us down.

Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: mushRTID on May 06, 2025, 12:19:36 pm
I would absolutely take him back, we are going to need more match winners in L1 and he falls into that bracket.

Him, Moly and Gibson would be quality options. No offence to Ennis who has improved but at the next level I don’t think we can afford unproven options off the bench.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Bessie Red on May 06, 2025, 12:22:10 pm
Not the type of player we need in the group Grant has (& will) put together.
Can imagine him being too above himself personality wise to fit in here now.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: GazLaz on May 06, 2025, 12:31:23 pm
Like mcann said after the playoff defeat, if any player didn't want to come back to try and win the league, then call your agent and leave.

Adelakun probably didn't fancy working hard and going for it.
He went for the easy ride at Salford, poor attitude that keeps him from being a championship player.


That’s just nonsense. Nothing to do with not working hard. He was offered a lot of money to sign abroad which he fancied, missed the deadline we gave him, and then the other promise of a deal fell through. Shit happens.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: TonySoprano on May 06, 2025, 01:11:41 pm
Like mcann said after the playoff defeat, if any player didn't want to come back to try and win the league, then call your agent and leave.

Adelakun probably didn't fancy working hard and going for it.
He went for the easy ride at Salford, poor attitude that keeps him from being a championship player.


That’s just nonsense. Nothing to do with not working hard. He was offered a lot of money to sign abroad which he fancied, missed the deadline we gave him, and then the other promise of a deal fell through. Shit happens.

You believe what you want.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Ryaldinhio on May 06, 2025, 01:18:45 pm
See his goal on the weekend against Carlisle?????

Thats what he brings, and he did it for us last year.

Worth signing every day of the week.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: pib on May 06, 2025, 02:41:29 pm
He was great and has had another good season, but now we're in L1 armed with a L1 budget, is there someone else who'd potentially be a better investment?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Barmby Rover on May 06, 2025, 03:59:52 pm
Didn't want to take up the challenge, thought he was too good for Rovers. He had his chance, he misses out.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: jmt23 on May 06, 2025, 05:55:40 pm
Different class player at the league two level, I think the way his mind works is 2-3 moves ahead of others. He would definitely work in league one, not sure why it didn’t before.
He worked in a way that I imagine Billy does for the club, he raises levels, expects and demands more.

Not sure he burnt any bridges to my knowledge, I assume he was offered a deal and turned it down ( obviously you can do that in a good or bad way, not sure why you would do it in an unprofessional manner though)
I could see the possibility of Salford paying him more than we did too.

Is fitness an issue though, he really struggled towards the end, he did run his boots off though, and he hasn’t had a full season with Salford either.

Mcann has a way of getting the most out of these players -Wilkes another in that line, although I know that Grant had to treat him differently to the rest of the team, not sure the current squad with their close knit nature would appreciate that.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: rich1471 on May 06, 2025, 06:11:12 pm
Different class player at the league two level, I think the way his mind works is 2-3 moves ahead of others. He would definitely work in league one, not sure why it didn’t before.
He worked in a way that I imagine Billy does for the club, he raises levels, expects and demands more.

Not sure he burnt any bridges to my knowledge, I assume he was offered a deal and turned it down ( obviously you can do that in a good or bad way, not sure why you would do it in an unprofessional manner though)
I could see the possibility of Salford paying him more than we did too.

Is fitness an issue though, he really struggled towards the end, he did run his boots off though, and he hasn’t had a full season with Salford either.

Mcann has a way of getting the most out of these players -Wilkes another in that line, although I know that Grant had to treat him differently to the rest of the team, not sure the current squad with their close knit nature would appreciate that.
Think he struggled towards the end of the season as he was fasting
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 06, 2025, 07:19:23 pm
If he ever did come back, under no circumstances should he ever be trusted again with a penalty.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: dickos1 on May 06, 2025, 07:31:50 pm
He’s been taking them regularly for Salford
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: adamtherover on May 06, 2025, 07:35:40 pm
Didn't want to take up the challenge, thought he was too good for Rovers. He had his chance, he misses out.
could the same be aimed towards olowu?, he's turned down the first deal, the club have gone back with a better offer.  With haks and biggo, it was a one shot deal, no and you are gone.  Maybe the character of jo is what deserving of a 2nd offer just as important as the skill level?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: rich1471 on May 06, 2025, 08:32:29 pm
Didn't want to take up the challenge, thought he was too good for Rovers. He had his chance, he misses out.
could the same be aimed towards olowu?, he's turned down the first deal, the club have gone back with a better offer.  With haks and biggo, it was a one shot deal, no and you are gone.  Maybe the character of jo is what deserving of a 2nd offer just as important as the skill level?
with haks he was reported to be on 8k a week at Lincoln if rovers offered him 3k he was bound to see if he could get more elsewhere with the form he finished the season on
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on May 06, 2025, 08:55:10 pm
I’d have him back. He’s a match winner. Ok hit the form of his life with us that’s unlikely to be repeated but he’ll always have threat. Only snag for me is he never went to L1 last season. We have a bigger market to shop in now.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Draytonian III on May 06, 2025, 09:58:56 pm
His agent is his brother, a bit of the Harry Kane situation going on.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: IDM on May 06, 2025, 10:12:09 pm
I still have concerns that no league 1 side took him last season..

Edited to say league 1 - obviously.!  Apologies for my typo..
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Padge_DRFC on May 07, 2025, 06:52:02 am
Probably demanded wages exceeding league 2 teams budget. In the end probably was left getting an okay deal at Salford but probably not what he expected. I'd guess probably what we offered him or similar
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: GazLaz on May 07, 2025, 06:59:55 am
Probably demanded wages exceeding league 2 teams budget. In the end probably was left getting an okay deal at Salford but probably not what he expected. I'd guess probably what we offered him or similar

Salford are decent payers. He’ll be doing ok there.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: les@donr on May 09, 2025, 04:37:03 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2025, 07:01:33 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.

Nev and Becks have “raised $15m-$20m to invest over the next 5 years”. To get to the Championship. I’m pretty sure they are losing £5m a year treading water in L2, so I’m not sure how that will work.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Nudga on May 09, 2025, 07:08:16 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.

Nev and Becks have “raised $15m-$20m to invest over the next 5 years”. To get to the Championship. I’m pretty sure they are losing £5m a year treading water in L2, so I’m not sure how that will work.

Let's be fair, the Salford area is not a hot bed for football.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: EasyforDennis on May 09, 2025, 07:36:34 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.

Nev and Becks have “raised $15m-$20m to invest over the next 5 years”. To get to the Championship. I’m pretty sure they are losing £5m a year treading water in L2, so I’m not sure how that will work.

Let's be fair, the Salford area is not a hot bed for football.

Yeah that other team who also play in Salford are not that good are they?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Nudga on May 09, 2025, 07:40:00 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.

Nev and Becks have “raised $15m-$20m to invest over the next 5 years”. To get to the Championship. I’m pretty sure they are losing £5m a year treading water in L2, so I’m not sure how that will work.

Let's be fair, the Salford area is not a hot bed for football.

Yeah that other team who also play in Salford are not that good are they?

Who's that?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 09, 2025, 08:03:08 am
Probably that team that have just got to the Europa Cup Final with Spurs?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Filo on May 09, 2025, 08:03:57 am
The club is going to get some serious investment now Becks and Neville. It is said they want to do a Wrexham.

Nev and Becks have “raised $15m-$20m to invest over the next 5 years”. To get to the Championship. I’m pretty sure they are losing £5m a year treading water in L2, so I’m not sure how that will work.

Let's be fair, the Salford area is not a hot bed for football.

Yeah that other team who also play in Salford are not that good are they?

Well they made a Europa League Final
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Nudga on May 09, 2025, 08:07:42 am
Not in Salford City.

And what I really meant was the area around Salfords ground.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 09, 2025, 05:18:38 pm
They don't have a historical fanbase or catchment area like Wrexham. They've had ample opportunity before but they weren't prepared or bold enough to make their Salford project sexy.

Even with Beckham on board they're not going to generate the same interest, even before recruiting the players and manager to take them there.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: ChrisBx on May 09, 2025, 06:01:26 pm
I thought Beckham and Neville had been involved for a while and that they'd simply increased their holding with the others leaving?
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 09, 2025, 06:17:10 pm
The major shareholder was Peter Lim, with the 92 all being investors. There has effectively been a buyout of all existing shareholders by a new consortium of nine investors. Within those nine investors are Beckham and Gary Neville but the other seven are all serious people. There will be money there but the investors are highly credible commercial people who will be looking to generate organic revenue streams. There is clearly room for a third club in Manchester (I know they are in Salford not Manchester) that can ride on coattails of the other two sides. They just not had the wherewithal to put that together commercially. These new investors are aiming to do that.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2025, 07:01:46 pm
The major shareholder was Peter Lim, with the 92 all being investors. There has effectively been a buyout of all existing shareholders by a new consortium of nine investors. Within those nine investors are Beckham and Gary Neville but the other seven are all serious people. There will be money there but the investors are highly credible commercial people who will be looking to generate organic revenue streams. There is clearly room for a third club in Manchester (I know they are in Salford not Manchester) that can ride on coattails of the other two sides. They just not had the wherewithal to put that together commercially. These new investors are aiming to do that.

$15m will get them nowhere.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 09, 2025, 07:27:31 pm
Yes, that wasn't the point though. The point was the diametric opposite. The new investors are commercial people able to build a commercial offer around a third club in Manchester. That is marketing, brand and profile. It's not about spending huge sums on inorganic progression through talent acquisition alone. I assume that is what various people have tried to do with Tranmere over the years, the third club in a big footballing city theoretically has an opening. Not that easy though.
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: RoversInSpain on May 09, 2025, 07:33:13 pm
Yes, that wasn't the point though. The point was the diametric opposite. The new investors are commercial people able to build a commercial offer around a third club in Manchester. That is marketing, brand and profile. It's not about spending huge sums on inorganic progression through talent acquisition alone. I assume that is what various people have tried to do with Tranmere over the years, the third club in a big footballing city theoretically has an opening. Not that easy though.
Good shout re Tranmere…. However watch this space…..
Surprised Neville didn’t help out his home town club, 12,000 capacity, won the FA cup twice and not a million miles from Manchester…
Title: Re: Adelakun
Post by: GazLaz on May 09, 2025, 07:38:45 pm
Yes, that wasn't the point though. The point was the diametric opposite. The new investors are commercial people able to build a commercial offer around a third club in Manchester. That is marketing, brand and profile. It's not about spending huge sums on inorganic progression through talent acquisition alone. I assume that is what various people have tried to do with Tranmere over the years, the third club in a big footballing city theoretically has an opening. Not that easy though.

They have put together a 5 year plan to get to the Championship. If they are doing it in a more organic fashion their time scale is incorrect.