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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Thorney on July 22, 2025, 08:11:24 pm
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Cmon the lionesses.
Lets not have pens tonight though.
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This commentator is atrocious. One comment about an Italian player ‘ she plays rugby in Rome’. Another they are wearing socks, shorts and a top. And about 5 seconds behind on what’s happening
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Improvement needed or we're out.
Long way to go yet, but we look like we need some inspired substitutions again.
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England not at their best again. A bit lackadaisical. Need to buck up their ideas.
Only Hemp providing any pace or threat.
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They have been horrible. So direct and predictable.
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This commentator is atrocious. One comment about an Italian player ‘ she plays rugby in Rome’. Another they are wearing socks, shorts and a top. And about 5 seconds behind on what’s happening
It’s on ITV. Terrible commentary every time. Picks a favourite side (or England’s opponent) and bigs them up all the time.
I’ve forgotten more of his mistakes than I could ever remember!
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Lauren james for me is an enigma.
She has talent, but just looks lethargic and lazy. (Not saying she is because she does her work tracking back)
She just looks tired tonight, can see another chloe kelly supersub.
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Should be a couple of changes at HT, I think..
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Mead on for James.. injury apparently.
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They have been horrible. So direct and predictable.
Stanway and walsh have been poor for a long time now and offer nothing. Play bypasses them
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They can’t break Italy down. Had plenty of possession but no telling shot for their keeper to save. Come on girls.
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Russo reminds me of our joe ironside, working her ass off as an isolated striker but not getting the rewards they deserve.
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For all the England possession and play around the box, we’ve not really made their keeper work.
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Serina doesnt like making changes does she, will leave it as late a possible
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Now resorting to long range pot shots.
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Unbelievable.
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It's coming home, apparently.
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Russo reminds me of our joe ironside, working her ass off as an isolated striker but not getting the rewards they deserve.
Exactly. It was crying out for Agymang 15 mins earlier. Far too late to make subs.
Got out of jail when the Italian time-wasting looked like it paid off. 7 mins was a joke.
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If England win this then it will be claimed serina subs are a masterclass, i think she makes them too late. Done 20 mins earlier and england win in 90. Better with 2 up top and Michelle Agyemang is a handful, chloe kelly is all energy.
Both need to be on earlier
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Don't half put us through it this team!
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Russo reminds me of our joe ironside, working her ass off as an isolated striker but not getting the rewards they deserve.
Bit of a flat track bully Russo. Grafter but lacks real quality in front of goal.
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Russo reminds me of our joe ironside, working her ass off as an isolated striker but not getting the rewards they deserve.
Bit of a flat track bully Russo. Grafter but lacks real quality in front of goal.
Short memory. You forget that sublime backheel vs Sweden last euros..
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Think Russo works if there are others around her who can hit a cow’s arse with a banjo. Quality of shooting from rest of side has been terrible so Russo looks a bit toothless if she is doing the running for them all and gets rewarded with some horrific quality from her team mates.
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Agyemang looks a real handful up front.. only 19 too..
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Wow.. Kelly does it again.!!
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Brilliant!
Well done, ladies!
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3 major finals in a row.
Winners find a way.
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Never
Give
Up.!!
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It does not matter how you get there, you just need to get to the final
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Agyemang looks a real handful up front.. only 19 too..
I don't know if you've had the chance to see her first international goal? 40 secs after coming on as a sub....it was unbelievable!!!
https://youtu.be/DeE-AXMrhxc?si=oO7aYcBGkGbutFl2
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Just wow! Never say never! :woot:
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Well done thank god not pen shoot out.
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Think Russo works if there are others around her who can hit a cow’s arse with a banjo. Quality of shooting from rest of side has been terrible so Russo looks a bit toothless if she is doing the running for them all and gets rewarded with some horrific quality from her team mates.
Id swap out james for chloe kelly. Watch how much that improves russo having kellys energy in a 10 role.
Russo will be clinical, far from a flat track bully
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Great to see time wasting by Italy actually worked against them although 7 minutes seemed way too short.
Looking forward to seeing how Division One players strive to keep the ball "dead" every time the result suits them
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Thought the ref was very fair to England all game.
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Thought the ref was very fair to England all game.
Probably was a penalty but it was a big call at that time of the game.
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Thought the ref was very fair to England all game.
Probably was a penalty but it was a big call at that time of the game.
A penalty is a penalty wether in the first second or the last second of the game
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Thought the ref was very fair to England all game.
Probably was a penalty but it was a big call at that time of the game.
A penalty is a penalty wether in the first second or the last second of the game
Of course it is, similar situations occur throughout the game (in most games) and don’t get given though. It was an easy one not to give in a high stakes moment. Decisions are often not binary in football.
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It was right in front of the ref and she had no choice really.. if the players had been side to side it’s more difficult to judge, but Mead was bundled over from behind.
As for James, she clearly wasn’t 100% last night, but has the talent to be a game changer. I suspect she will start again on Sunday, unless the injury is too troublesome.
Kelly is some player to bring on though..
So to tonight’s other semi. World champions Spain must be favourites, and have the best players. But the Germans are tough to beat and overcame France against expectations. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull off a shock tonight.
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Lauren james for me is an enigma.
She has talent, but just looks lethargic and lazy. (Not saying she is because she does her work tracking back)
She just looks tired tonight, can see another chloe kelly supersub.
She should not have started the game, clearly not fit and therefore should not start the final.
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Sarina Wiegman, needs to understand her best 11 and pick on performances and merit ! she's been very lucky to keep her side in this competition, Agyemang, Kelly & Mead have saved her bacon, lets hope she learns her lesson and now goes on to win it for the nation.
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All my life the Italians have defended the box with six players minimum when not in possession looking to hit on the counter.
Flinging the ball into the box at an angle with defenders facing the ball from 25 to 40 yds from the goal line is meat and drink to them.
Getting it wide and pulling it back from the goal line making defenders face their own goal has proven over years, Celtic the first to tumble to it, that they can be got at.
Only Russo and Bronze tried to do it and on a couple of occasions caused problems for the Italian defenders.
Poor management, looked happy to keep banging their heads against the wall.
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I thought Esme Morgan was outstanding in central defence and never got a mention.
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That’s because the ITV commentator was spunking his keks whenever the Italians were pressing - the defence hardly got a mention when they kept them out.
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Sarina Wiegman, needs to understand her best 11 and pick on performances and merit ! she's been very lucky to keep her side in this competition, Agyemang, Kelly & Mead have saved her bacon, lets hope she learns her lesson and now goes on to win it for the nation.
Or alternatively... keep using those players as highly effective impact subs, which is how England have reached the final.
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So good to see consistency in the referees decisions. The ref was blowing up for free kicks all night for challenges like the one in the box, so a 100% correct decision. Shouldn’t matter if it’s in the penalty area, a foul is a foul. Time all refs did the same, lost count of how many times I’ve heard ..”if that challenge was made in the centre circle it’s a free kick”
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I thought Esme Morgan was outstanding in central defence and never got a mention.
After the France game I wrote on here that Morgan should start ahead of Carter.
Morgan justified her place and throughout the match against Italy she was immense.
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Spain in the final after some Gary Woods esque goalkeeping from the German keeper. Granted it took a great finish to capitalise on it from a tight angle.
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At first I thought it was a mis directed cross for the goal but the replay showed that the scorer looked up and saw that the keeper was out of position and was good enough to put the ball into the net through the narrowest of gaps.
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Yep, quick thinking and great technique to find the gap. While running at pace after nearly 2 hours of football as well. Against most other teams the keeper gets away with that.
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
I agree that they would probably struggle in NLN and NLS but then they would be competing against men.
You have to take women’s football for what it is, women against women.
Once you see that then it is quite entertaining and the standard is ever improving.
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I noticed that despite their technical superiority Spain weren't averse to employing the tactical foul to prevent Germany playing. Haven't seen it as obvious as that in any other women's game I've watched.
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
Why do we compare men against women in football
What about Cricket Rugby both codes Tennis Athletics etc.
it’s women against women or girls against girls take that for what it is thousands of girls and women and men watch the games. Their choice
Stop comparing its like comparing Rovers with Liverpool we don’t so leave it alone. If don’t want to watch it that’s down to you others do.
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
Bellend.!!
This sort of post makes my piss boil.!
As others have said, there is no point in comparing the relative abilities of men’s and women’s football. These are the best women players in Europe (and the world) competing against each other. England’s recovery and penalty win vs Sweden and the late late equaliser and winner against a good Italy side, were fantastic sporting spectacles in their own right.
What if it was your daughter, or granddaughter who had a chance to be in that situation?
Crawl back into your cave.
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I noticed that despite their technical superiority Spain weren't averse to employing the tactical foul to prevent Germany playing. Haven't seen it as obvious as that in any other women's game I've watched.
I have noted it creeping into the women’s game. Along with arguing with kicking the ball away and arguing with officials.
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I noticed that despite their technical superiority Spain weren't averse to employing the tactical foul to prevent Germany playing. Haven't seen it as obvious as that in any other women's game I've watched.
I have noted it creeping into the women’s game. Along with arguing with kicking the ball away and arguing with officials.
At the elite level it certainly is. Is it a coincidence that there is more focus on "win at all costs" and less sporting purety as the money has increased?
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
Bellend.!!
This sort of post makes my piss boil.!
As others have said, there is no point in comparing the relative abilities of men’s and women’s football. These are the best women players in Europe (and the world) competing against each other. England’s recovery and penalty win vs Sweden and the late late equaliser and winner against a good Italy side, were fantastic sporting spectacles in their own right.
What if it was your daughter, or granddaughter who had a chance to be in that situation?
Crawl back into your cave.
What an eloquent and thoughtful response. Talk about crawling back in a cave take a look at yourself you dim wit.
I don't think the football is of a good standard. I don't think that it's a spectacle. I choose not to watch it and I don't understand why others watch it.....but I haven't come on here trying to impose my views on others or say they shouldn't be watching it.
It's an opinion, is that what this forum is here for, to discuss opinion?
Doesn't mean I'm right.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong.
I would support my daughter in anything she wanted to do, but that doesn't mean I should follow a sport incase she decides to pursue that?
If a few words with no malice boil your piss then maybe you need to take a careful look at yourself IDM.
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No,
It’s the unnecessary comparison to the mens game which is annoying, along with the lack of understanding why a lot of folks actually like women’s football. And then you say you believe in equality.
As for the old chestnut of its a forum so I’ll have my opinion, that also means folks can debate that opinion.
Apart from in my frustration calling you a bellend, my opinions are just as valid as yours.
By the way, I call myself that too when I do something stupid like look for my glasses when they are on my head.
How can you deduce that these games are not sporting spectacles if you don’t watch them.?
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If junior age group academy sides beat easily international sides then the level is about six or seven or even 8 in mens terms.
That doesn't mean to say that the games cannot be interesting to those who watch them, but puts into context for instance both Thorne Colliery and Rossington beating our u18s, they would compete with the international womens teams and probably comfortably beat them.
The NLN would completely bury them technically, pace and physically. it would be no contest.
Having said that I enjoy watching the women's games. even the Belles training sessions when at the academy, I admire them and the progress their game has made and the interest and advances of the girls now having a chance to play the game unlike when I was young.
I am sure the girls of my generation woukld have wanted the chance to play organised football in the Doncaster Area earlier than when it became possible.
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Getting back to the competition I think England have every chance v Spain and think that the England v Italy a far better standard game than Germany v Spain.
If the referee clamps down on Spain's use of the professional foul England's movement up front can get at them.
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Big if that though.....
BobG
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Let’s hope Lucy Bronze doesn’t go on an aimless walk about this time.!!
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Couldn't compete in NLN or NLS
Not interested, not sure why others are.
I believe in equality 100%.
I don't like horseracing, but I wouldn't go on a horseracing thread or forum to announce that, because it's not going to change anyone's mind, and would just make me look daft. Get the picture?
As regards standard of football, have a good think about what you were paying money to watch at the Rovers a few years back.
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Ridiculous comments by Ryaldinhio but I can’t be bothered to offer a counter-argument so well done to those who have.
I’m in Spain so I’m looking forward to watching the final in the hotel bar!
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As Pancho I can't be bothered to offer counter arguments either. I'm not here to argue.
Hope you all carry on enjoying a form of the game that I don't enjoy.
I didn't mean to offend.
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Ridiculous comments by Ryaldinhio but I can’t be bothered to offer a counter-argument so well done to those who have.
I’m in Spain so I’m looking forward to watching the final in the hotel bar!
Will you be in the majority or minority as an England supporter, Pancho?
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I quite enjoy watching the women's game, the quality of the football and skill has improved immeasurably.
What I can't abide is the bloody awful women commentators.
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I quite enjoy watching the women's game, the quality of the football and skill has improved immeasurably.
What I can't abide is the bloody awful women commentators.
Funny that, I can't abide awful male commentators either. I guess it comes down to personal choice rather than a competence thing.
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Kenneth Wolstenholme was the daddy of them all.
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Kenneth Wolstenholme was the daddy of them all.
He liked the ladies then, apparently, and was extremely fertile too!!
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As Pancho I can't be bothered to offer counter arguments either. I'm not here to argue.
Hope you all carry on enjoying a form of the game that I don't enjoy.
I didn't mean to offend.
Credit due to you Ryaldinhio, everyone to their own.
The women’s game is very different to the men’s but I’ve come to really enjoy it.
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Ridiculous comments by Ryaldinhio but I can’t be bothered to offer a counter-argument so well done to those who have.
I’m in Spain so I’m looking forward to watching the final in the hotel bar!
Will you be in the majority or minority as an England supporter, Pancho?
We’ve only been in the hotel since Tuesday Steve but there seems to be quite a mix of nationalities.
Certainly some Brits but also Dutch and German as you might expect.
But there are lots of Spaniards too so it could make for a lively atmosphere!
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I quite enjoy watching the women's game, the quality of the football and skill has improved immeasurably.
What I can't abide is the bloody awful women commentators.
Funny that, I can't abide awful male commentators either. I guess it comes down to personal choice rather than a competence thing.
Agree.
Getting so bored of football commentary. We now seem to have a Commentator and 2 other pundits (jobs for the boys and girls) uttering the bleeding obvious and loving the sound of their own voice.
Just one commentator please. We can actually see what’s going on and don’t need 3 voices booming out what we know already.
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Said it before, I find the ITV commentators are not very good..
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I have not been a regular watcher of women’s football but from what I have seen at this tournament I don’t agree that there is a huge difference in technical quality - certainly not as big as some on this thread have claimed.
If you look at some of the goals scored, on average I can’t remember seeing better quality goals scored in the national league, or even league 2 for that matter.
The old argument “well they’d get beat by a men’s team” is irrelevant, there is obviously a physical advantage that women cannot overcome through no fault of their own. It’s like saying women’s boxing is shit because they wouldn’t beat a male boxer.
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I have not been a regular watcher of women’s football but from what I have seen at this tournament I don’t agree that there is a huge difference in technical quality - certainly not as big as some on this thread have claimed.
If you look at some of the goals scored, on average I can’t remember seeing better quality goals scored in the national league, or even league 2 for that matter.
The old argument “well they’d get beat by a men’s team” is irrelevant, there is obviously a physical advantage that women cannot overcome through no fault of their own. It’s like saying women’s boxing is shit because they wouldn’t beat a male boxer.
This ^ exactly.
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I quite enjoy watching the women's game, the quality of the football and skill has improved immeasurably.
What I can't abide is the bloody awful women commentators.
Got to agree with that. Vicky sodding Sparks just sounds like an Alan Partridge impersonator. Otherwise all for it. Women can’t run the hundred metres as quickly as the men but it doesn’t demean the event or the achievement.
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Being both a grumpy old man and a closet misogynist I have always thought women playing football is like a dog walking on it's hind legs, it is never done properly and should not be done at all. And I can't stand hearing women commentating on men's football. Or cricket.
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You are joking, aren’t you.??
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You are joking, aren’t you.??
If he's not joking, IDM, he's seriously in need of some help.
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They will get caught by Spain if they pass out from the back every time, crazy game, I hate it
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Being both a grumpy old man and a closet misogynist I have always thought women playing football is like a dog walking on it's hind legs, it is never done properly and should not be done at all. And I can't stand hearing women commentating on men's football. Or cricket.
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I think Michelle Ageymang could do a Geoff Hurst in the final.
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Being both a grumpy old man and a closet misogynist I have always thought women playing football is like a dog walking on it's hind legs, it is never done properly and should not be done at all. And I can't stand hearing women commentating on men's football. Or cricket.
Wow, not sure about “Closet” Avsuptem, after this post you’re well and truly out and proud!! :police:
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My post was hyperbole Lincs, I am looking forward to watching today's final. Mind you, probably like most of us here I would not be watching it if Rovers were playing at the same time.
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Apart from the Qatar World Cup, the major tournaments are in the off season. Silly statement really.
Contender for today’s JCB award..
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It seems you missed the point IDM. I will try to make my posts a little easier for you to understand in future.
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I’ve got a perfect seat in front of the big screen in an Irish Pub in Calpe, Costa Blanca.
Amstel £3.50 per pint.
That’ll do
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Whatever the team selection, we're going to have our work cut out. Lauren James fortunate to be selected, particularly with injury concerns but she needs to step up to the plate. Looks like we'll have to sit deep and go long quite often, hope to stay in the game until the last quarter, then hit them with our super subs.
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It seems you missed the point IDM. I will try to make my posts a little easier for you to understand in future.
You said you - and assumed others - would choose to watch Rovers if they played at the same time.
I points out that wouldn’t happen, so your statement was pointless.
Do you understand.?
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Cannot hope to leave things pate like previous games.
If spain are in front with 10 mins to go then watch them keep england away from the ball with ease
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And esme morgan can count herself unlucky to be dropped after the semi final for carter
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Good luck ladies cheer for england
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Decent start by England, good game so far