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Title: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on August 23, 2025, 05:30:09 pm
I'm 1 of his biggest fans but today i found him to be frustrating.

Hit the deck way too easy under the slightest of touches expecting a free kick. When he didnt get 1 he started throwing his arms about ronaldo style.

Also didnt get a throw in he though he should late in the game, instead of getting back as quick as possible to defend the lead he decided to have a moan at the linesman allowing his man to get first run.

Hope he isnt starting to become a prima donna. And grant if seen it can cut this out very sharpish.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 23, 2025, 05:51:15 pm
I'm 1 of his biggest fans but today i found him to be frustrating.

Hit the deck way too easy under the slightest of touches expecting a free kick. When he didnt get 1 he started throwing his arms about ronaldo style.

Also didnt get a throw in he though he should late in the game, instead of getting back as quick as possible to defend the lead he decided to have a moan at the linesman allowing his man to get first run.

Hope he isnt starting to become a prima donna. And grant if seen it can cut this out very sharpish.

Yeah agreed he went down a couple of times, but on their occasions he was being fouled. One in the second half he was clean way and player should have received a card. Then clearly a foul and not given. Plus a yellow card given for time wasting, almost looked like the ref was against him.
Thought he made a couple of mistakes, but worked hard all game and again closely watched by their players.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 23, 2025, 05:57:03 pm
He simply misses Sterry, so don’t worry. All he can do surrounded by 3 defenders is try to gain a free kick, he’s no teammate close to him, overlapping or offering a 1-2.
That changes very soon when the man in a mask returns.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: dknward2 on August 23, 2025, 05:59:01 pm
Hopefully sterry will be back as a sub on Tuesday at minimum ready for a start on Saturday
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Fal on August 23, 2025, 06:12:21 pm
I think people need to understand that he is one of our best players, so this means the opposition are always going to try and stop him from playing as they know his threat as you see every week when they double up on him. Give the lad a break, its the other players that need to take the pressure off of him like we saw last season.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: mushRTID on August 23, 2025, 06:15:18 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 23, 2025, 06:16:41 pm
I think people need to understand that he is one of our best players, so this means the opposition are always going to try and stop him from playing as they know his threat as you see every week when they double up on him. Give the lad a break, its the other players that need to take the pressure off of him like we saw last season.

Agreed. When things aren't going his way, show him some love. He's got plenty of credit in the bank.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 23, 2025, 06:18:30 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 23, 2025, 06:24:15 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Muppets.  Mols hasn't scored yet this season but has assists and worked hard.  Doesn't suit nixon behind him for me as he's not positive enough at full back.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: keith79 on August 23, 2025, 06:27:25 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Muppets.  Mols hasn't scored yet this season but has assists and worked hard.  Doesn't suit nixon behind him for me as he's not positive enough at full back.
he scored a peno
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: jmt23 on August 23, 2025, 06:30:53 pm
He is well out of the form we know he can achieve, and today was probably his worst game for us in my opinion, BUT he never stops working and trying hard to find that form and work for the team.

I do wonder if he needs a game or two out, coming on as sub. Firstly to give him some time, he looks a little frustrated by everything. Secondly it can give certain players a bit more fire.
 I’m conflicted on this though, as his form does yo-yo through a season, but out of nowhere BANG he is in form.

Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 23, 2025, 06:32:05 pm
He’s our best player and people expect a lot but they need to chill out. If the opposition didn’t double or triple up on him he’d be doing all sorts.

We’re out playing most teams we’ve played and the space he creates might have something to do with it.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 23, 2025, 06:36:40 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Muppets.  Mols hasn't scored yet this season but has assists and worked hard.  Doesn't suit nixon behind him for me as he's not positive enough at full back.
he scored a peno

Good point he did.  It's been a long day!
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: dknward2 on August 23, 2025, 06:38:42 pm
Molls at most had 2 league 2 players closing him down last season this season it's a minimum of 2 league 1 defenders some could be championship quality players it's a big step up, think he generally starts slow most seasons but soon picks up and becomes player we all know, let's just get behind him and the rest of the players and we can fear no one in this league
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on August 23, 2025, 06:49:34 pm
I dont question his work rate and he still is the 1st name on the teamsheet for me.

Just dont like seeing the stroppy arms in the air when the decisions didnt go his way and how quick he was to hit the deck under the slightest touch.

Dont want that to become part of his game.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 23, 2025, 07:11:53 pm
Ref gave him nothing today. Half the time though the ref was right. In fact the ref was decent today whilst I mention him.

I've always thought Gibson would be the one who'd find the step up easier. On technical ability Gibson is ahead
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: adamtherover on August 23, 2025, 08:26:42 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Thorney on August 23, 2025, 08:55:32 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

2 very clueless blokes
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: LincsRover on August 23, 2025, 09:42:45 pm
He has multiple players marking him in a higher league. Of course he’s struggling a bit but class will out and he’ll keep going and work out what he needs to do. Form is temporary, class is permanent, and Moly is still a great player at this level. GM will get the best from him soon.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: RobTheRover on August 23, 2025, 10:07:19 pm
All good players have a off day. Today was Mol's. He just never looked in control of the ball in that first half. Much better 2nd half. Hopefully, that's it out of his system.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Nudga on August 23, 2025, 10:10:49 pm
Give him a total rest in Tuesday and leave him at home.
He's played an incredible amount of games in the last two seasons.

Let's see what Ajayi can do for a full 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Prez on August 23, 2025, 10:16:28 pm
Jeez, nearly every game he’s got at least 2 of the opposition on his back.

Last thing he needs is some of our fans on his back as well.

He’s a marked man, sometimes he won’t be able to produce.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 23, 2025, 10:18:51 pm
He’ll be allright when his mate, (the Lone Ranger - look it up for those not old enough), gets back in the fold.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: ForsolongaRover on August 23, 2025, 11:35:20 pm
Hopefully sterry will be back as a sub on Tuesday at minimum ready for a start on Saturday

Sterry and Molyneux complement each other. As Sterry improved last season, so Molyneux’s effectiveness increased.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 23, 2025, 11:40:06 pm
Anybody questioning Moly’s performances or effort needs to give their head a wobble.

Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: rtid88 on August 24, 2025, 12:21:58 am
I thought he was poor at times today. Some very very easy passes just not being completed.

I personally dont think he has hit the ground running so far this season, but he will given time.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 24, 2025, 04:34:26 am
He’s been poor this season as mentioned before. Doesn’t ever lack effort though.

I think we lack a bit of athleticism in the team, and that kind of sums up Mols. Playing against bigger, stronger, quicker players at the level above and finding it tough.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 24, 2025, 07:11:13 am
I find all these negative comments about mols are absolutely ridiculous.
It’s almost like certain posters would be delighted if he left, he’s gives his all in every game and does not deserve the amount of criticism he is currently receiving on social media.
He his fully committed to rovers, and people should appreciate he is not going to score in every game, and should appreciate his contribution to the team in games when he doesn’t score.
If people don’t, then the alternative is he will leave, is that what you want?



Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 24, 2025, 07:26:08 am
Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: StocksArmy on August 24, 2025, 07:46:24 am
We can’t expect him to be perfect every week. Agree he underperformed yesterday and his body language did seem right but, he will provide quality moments throughout the season and to be fair to him already has a goal and 3? Assists? We are lucky enough now to not solely rely on Mols but we still need to wrap him in cotton wool as an injury to him would make a difference to our season.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: rich1471 on August 24, 2025, 08:25:41 am
Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!
As you say, Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up! or 2 ppg is promotion form better to look at the positives in live ,also I'm not knocking your post ,just some posters on here are always negative
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 24, 2025, 08:39:02 am
Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on August 24, 2025, 09:45:28 am
Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.

I’d add the “one trick pony” to that group. The one who cut the ball back for Bails to guide into the net.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 24, 2025, 10:52:53 am
Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.

Yes and then you think of Nixon and Senior who've coped well with the move up a level. Middleton is settling in nicely where he's doing what it said on his tin with good crossing ability plus I think there's more to come with goals, set pieces etc. Gibson isn't doing too bad either and doesn't look out of place.

We were concerned about centre backs and possibly having to play Bailey there but this area is strong with O'Riordon, Pearson and Grehan looking very comfortable.

As we plot our way through the fixture schedule, Carling Cup, EFL Trophy then FA Cup, just as we did last season, we'll see McCann shuffle the pack even though we might bemoan the lack of a 'settled' team.

Come the mid season review in January if we are well placed in the top half, then the last two seasons should give us confidence we can finish strongly in the run in, when it's more likely we'll establish a 'settled' team. 

Up to game 10 we'll know more about what we're capable of. Still too early to judge this league when results are unpredictable and no club looks superior yet.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: scawsby steve on August 24, 2025, 05:25:37 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: NickDRFC on August 24, 2025, 05:31:29 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: scawsby steve on August 24, 2025, 06:00:18 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: NickDRFC on August 24, 2025, 06:31:53 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Petche on August 24, 2025, 06:41:16 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!

WTF?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 24, 2025, 07:17:15 pm
It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!

Are you OK Nick?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: NickDRFC on August 24, 2025, 08:58:39 pm
I might not be articulating the point very well or I might just be on my own in thinking that Moly didn’t win us the 3 points against Exeter…either way fair enough!
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 24, 2025, 09:06:21 pm
Bizarre thread. This time last year exactly the same tripe with one joker wanting rid of Molyneux, next it’ll be a poll as to how long we give McCann.
5 games 10 points and in R2 of the league cup.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: In the box on August 24, 2025, 11:35:05 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol
Molyneux is a market man on the pitch now and has to find away of lifting his game or he will just get isolated . He isn’t the fasted of players be he is direct and effective so he needs back up to work with when ever he’s got the ball so leaving him trying to beat 2-3 players every time ..
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: coventryrover on August 25, 2025, 07:01:52 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 25, 2025, 07:39:24 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on August 25, 2025, 08:39:52 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

I understand the term ‘doubling up’ with regards to opponents ensuring at least two players track Mols’ runs & try to prevent him cutting inside or delivering a ball into the box (strength in numbers), but the phrase ‘moments man’ you used to describe Middleton’s contribution to the team is a new one to me.

You also called him “a one trick pony”, which I feel is unfair. His ‘job’ currently as a wide player, is to get balls into the penalty area consistently which he’s doing with aplomb. Grant would no doubt like to see him add goals to his repertoire (as he did & has done with Mols) & I have no doubt that will come.

I get you prefer Gibbo on that side, that’s your prerogative. But don’t show that preference by slating a ‘new player’ five league games into the season with unjustified sleights.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: dickos1 on August 25, 2025, 09:09:24 am
Some crazy posts on here, he was our best player at Huddersfield, got two assists at Mansfield, and scored the winner v Exeter.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 25, 2025, 09:13:45 am
Jeez, nearly every game he’s got at least 2 of the opposition on his back.

Last thing he needs is some of our fans on his back as well.

He’s a marked man, sometimes he won’t be able to produce.

This.

How many other players at this level do the opposition managers specifically tell their defenders to double up on? That demand on the opposition's capability is a major plus for us and inevitably leaves holes elsewhere.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: IDM on August 25, 2025, 09:21:40 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Rubbish.  Granted I have only been to the Wycombe game, but virtually (no one can be certain it’s 100%) every time Mols had the ball going forward he was faced with two opponents, and more often than not a third preventing him going back.

I was sat towards the north end of the east stand, so close to the right wing going forward in that first half where we had most of the play.

Are you saying that hasn’t happened in the other matches and folks on here are seeing it wrong?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 25, 2025, 11:06:49 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 25, 2025, 12:02:26 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

I understand the term ‘doubling up’ with regards to opponents ensuring at least two players track Mols’ runs & try to prevent him cutting inside or delivering a ball into the box (strength in numbers), but the phrase ‘moments man’ you used to describe Middleton’s contribution to the team is a new one to me.

You also called him “a one trick pony”, which I feel is unfair. His ‘job’ currently as a wide player, is to get balls into the penalty area consistently which he’s doing with aplomb. Grant would no doubt like to see him add goals to his repertoire (as he did & has done with Mols) & I have no doubt that will come.

I get you prefer Gibbo on that side, that’s your prerogative. But don’t show that preference by slating a ‘new player’ five league games into the season with unjustified sleights.

I don’t think I’ve slated Middleton. He’s made a contribution. He’s not a bad player.

Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 25, 2025, 12:35:23 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.

I was going to make exactly the same observation BST.
On several occasions Mols had 2 PV players for company as soon as he got possession, and 3 players at least once.
He is known as our most dangerous player by opposing managers and fans alike. Indeed the PV fan I chatted to in their social club before the match said exactly that.

I don’t understand how anybody can refer to ‘doubling up’ as a myth, but then I’m not surprised given the poster concerned.

Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 25, 2025, 02:02:48 pm
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.

That’s how they defend the channels against everyone. They were doing the same at the other side. Seen PV live 4 times in the last year and about the same again on TV. They are notably good at defending wide areas with the RCH, RWB and RCM all working hard to block that area of the pitch. And the same on their left obviously.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 25, 2025, 02:18:26 pm
Really didn't seem that way to me Gaz. My recollection is that Middleton was frequently 1-on-1 with the right back.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: RoversInSpain on August 25, 2025, 02:32:31 pm
Baring ‘Boro, seen every match and Molyneux has faced 2 and 3 opposing players on many many occasions.
As stated previously, put Sterry back in and see the difference, when those 2 are at it the opposition will need 4 players to stop them.
Middleton has been excellent, how many moans and groans have we heard in the past along the lines of ‘there’s no end product’ John Taylor anyone?. Middleton has an end product, some of his crosses have been the best we’ve seen from a winger in yonks.The fact no one is on the end of them isn’t really his remit.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: steve@dcfd on August 25, 2025, 02:42:01 pm
Middleton is supplying good crosses from the left hand side if  a forward or midfield player to take those chances we would have more goals and he would have more assists.
Molyneux will be marked more especially with teams like PV that know his skills. Also as a team we find it difficult playing against teams who have 3/5 players at the back.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on August 25, 2025, 05:21:07 pm
You’ve heard it from ‘The Oracle’.

Middleton’s “..made a contribution.” As do the ball boys.

Molyneaux doesn’t get ‘doubled up’ on. The pitches must just happen to slope towards him & gravity does the rest.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 25, 2025, 05:22:17 pm
In theory, Middleton should be easier to defend against, because he always goes for the goal line. In practice of course, if a winger times their burst well, that's a bugger to cut off. I thought the Vale right back did a pretty good job on Middleton,aside from the goal where we broke sharply and he played the cross early.

Molyneux showed a new side of himself at Middlesbrough. He's clearly been working on his right foot, and when the full back tries cutting off the cut inside and offered him the outside route, he took it and played some lovely balls in.

If he really has that capability to go either way, teams are going to have to double up on him as a matter of course.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on August 25, 2025, 05:35:48 pm
And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 25, 2025, 08:37:10 pm
And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

Let’s see how many games at Championship level he ends up playing. He’s played one I believe and he’s 27 years old. Played 200+ at L2 and below.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 25, 2025, 09:21:20 pm
Started and played full 90 minutes in the 3-0 home win on 6 May 2018 for Sunderland against Wolves, who fielded Jota, Neves, Coady, Gibbs-White and Costa.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Usher wide. on August 26, 2025, 08:05:20 am
And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

Let’s see how many games at Championship level he ends up playing. He’s played one I believe and he’s 27 years old. Played 200+ at L2 and below.

We’re not in the Championship though are we.

I said he’s a Championship player. If we got promoted this season, are you saying Grant would drop him & go & find a player (now, what was it you said about Molyneaux before Grant became manager…ah yes) “..better & cheaper”?

Your dissing of players doesn’t half come back & bite you on your bum time after time.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 26, 2025, 08:59:23 am
And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

Let’s see how many games at Championship level he ends up playing. He’s played one I believe and he’s 27 years old. Played 200+ at L2 and below.

We’re not in the Championship though are we.

I said he’s a Championship player. If we got promoted this season, are you saying Grant would drop him & go & find a player (now, what was it you said about Molyneaux before Grant became manager…ah yes) “..better & cheaper”?

Your dissing of players doesn’t half come back & bite you on your bum time after time.

Like anyone with any opinion on anything, sometimes you are right, sometimes wrong and sometimes indifferent. I’m happy to be any of the above. I said Mols is a L2 player. So far we’re not seen anything to the contrary in L1. Hope he scores 20 goals and we get promoted.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: coventryrover on August 26, 2025, 09:20:21 am
Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.
I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol
me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.
constantly seeing it this season so not sure how it's a myth
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: RugbyRover on August 26, 2025, 09:26:43 am
Very good player for us. I'd say he lack's a bit of pace for the championship tho.

I'd think about playing him as the 10 to throw the opposition a little bit.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: IDM on August 26, 2025, 10:15:08 am
We are playing in league one.  Mols is a regular starter and is in our squad.  By default he is a league one player.

Whether he will prove to be a good one or not is another matter, however I believe he will.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: ncRover on August 26, 2025, 12:15:03 pm
And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

Molyneux is great and showed his class against Huddersfield with the way they resorted to tactically fouling him.

But if he was a championship level player at the time like you say, he wouldn’t have signed a new deal with us after we missed out on promotion. A championship club would have come in and tripled his wage and he’d have said ‘yes please’.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Metalmicky on August 28, 2025, 11:41:53 am
Is Moly out with this injury.... anyone know?
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Fal on August 28, 2025, 12:01:20 pm
Dont think anyone will know really until the pre match interview tomorrow but i can guarentee he will say touch and go to keep Rotherham guessing
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 28, 2025, 12:04:41 pm
Dont think anyone will know really until the pre match interview tomorrow but i can guarentee he will say touch and go to keep Rotherham guessing

It looked a bad one from his reaction on Tuesday. He tried to run it off but was really struggling.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Filo on August 28, 2025, 12:08:12 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 28, 2025, 12:11:59 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Filo on August 28, 2025, 12:18:06 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 28, 2025, 12:21:25 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

It was more from the side and because the commentator said it was a scissor tackle doesnt mean it was. It was one footed, just late.
Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Filo on August 28, 2025, 12:24:45 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

It was more from the side and because the commentator said it was a scissor tackle doesnt mean it was. It was one footed, just late.
Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day

I’m not going on whet the commentator said, I’m going on what I saw
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 28, 2025, 01:51:04 pm
It was anything but standard, Gaz.

Played the man, not the ball (that was 5 yards further up the pitch).

Straight red all day.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: drfchound on August 28, 2025, 01:57:07 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day

And also a last man foul.Mols  was through with only the keeper to beat.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 28, 2025, 01:58:16 pm
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day

And also a last man foul.Mols  was through with not the keeper to beat.

Thats really pushing it. There was a covering defender.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: CoppsOnTheRocks on August 28, 2025, 04:54:02 pm

Depends on whether the player to his right counts or not. One on one for me and a straight red.
That tackle should have been a straight red, not a second yellow

Never a red IMO. Just a standard late challenge.

Never got the ball, from behind scissor tackle, a red all day

And also a last man foul.Mols  was through with only the keeper to beat.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: sf9944 on August 29, 2025, 03:27:19 pm
Sounds like good news re Moly. Keeping players like him fit is more important than new signings in my book.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: dickos1 on August 29, 2025, 09:43:27 pm
I think moly showed in the Huddersfield game he’s at least league one level.
The Huddersfield fans were raving about him,
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Pancho Regan on August 29, 2025, 10:28:46 pm
I think moly showed in the Huddersfield game he’s at least league one level.
The Huddersfield fans were raving about him,

Agreed dickos.

At every away game I attend, the fans I speak to say that they fear Moly.
He will continue to show his talent in League 1 and could definitely hold his own in the Championship.

He was cynically fouled at Accrington because it was the only way their player could stop him. I hate to see that kind of foul because it could seriously injure a player.

Of course there is a poster on here who will defend that foul and deem it to be a ‘yellow’ at worst, because it suits his warped agenda.

Hopefully Moly isn’t injured too badly and we can see him back in action soon.



Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 30, 2025, 08:32:14 am
I think moly showed in the Huddersfield game he’s at least league one level.
The Huddersfield fans were raving about him,

Agreed dickos.

At every away game I attend, the fans I speak to say that they fear Moly.
He will continue to show his talent in League 1 and could definitely hold his own in the Championship.

He was cynically fouled at Accrington because it was the only way their player could stop him. I hate to see that kind of foul because it could seriously injure a player.

Of course there is a poster on here who will defend that foul and deem it to be a ‘yellow’ at worst, because it suits his warped agenda.

Hopefully Moly isn’t injured too badly and we can see him back in action soon.





WARPED AGENDA


I actually did a pole on X about the challenge. The vast majority of people, 70+% thought the challenge was a yellow card foul. I don’t see how falling into a category that is occupied by the majority of people construes an agenda.

Your lack of football knowledge is frightening. It’s easy to understand how you can’t understand my way of thinking. I actually take it as a compliment when you disagree with me.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Ryaldinhio on August 30, 2025, 08:40:52 am
I dont know what the fuss is about.

IMO it's a yellow card due to distance from goal and covering defender (second in this instance). The defender knew what he was doing as our star player was going to get away from him. I don't think he intended to injure Molls but it's a contact sport and these things happen.

If we are 0.0 against Spurs in last quarter of the game and Richarlison gets past one of our defenders this is exactly the challenge I want them to make and take a booking 35/40yards from goal.

Just unfortunate that Molly took a knock.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 30, 2025, 08:42:54 am
I dont know what the fuss is about.

IMO it's a yellow card due to distance from goal and covering defender (second in this instance). The defender knew what he was doing as our star player was going to get away from him. I don't think he intended to injure Molls but it's a contact sport and these things happen.

If we are 0.0 against Spurs in last quarter of the game and Richarlison gets past one of our defenders this is exactly the challenge I want them to make and take a booking 35/40yards from goal.

Just unfortunate that Molly took a knock.


Exactly.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 30, 2025, 08:48:17 am
I’d be surprised if he played today. How he was after the tackle didn’t look like a man likely to play 4 days later. Hope he’s fit but think McCann maybe bluffing with his sense of positivity.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Ian Nimmo on August 30, 2025, 09:01:43 am
Grant will definitely not want to Rotherham to know mols won’t be playing.
Even if there is any chance of him being able to play, I definitely wouldn’t want him to play today.
He’s always a marked man and does take significant amount of challenges, so another hefty knock could potentially take him out for weeks.
This is on paper, an easier game of games coming up, at present the millers are struggling with a few injuries and are desperately trying to bring in some players before Monday.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: jmt23 on August 30, 2025, 10:25:15 am
I think what we need is to swap the wingers so they get crosses in with their strong foot. It is very noticeable in this league they have learnt do not show Molly or Gibson inside, they force them wide.
Grant loves wingers who cut inside and shoot, but it’s not happening- yet… we have looked more threatening from crosses this year.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: rich1471 on August 30, 2025, 10:37:17 am
Mols went down and was hurt at the time ,think it was more a precaution on Tuesday so he ok for today
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2025, 11:16:23 am
Out of today's squad.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: GazLaz on August 30, 2025, 11:20:21 am
Out of today's squad.

Fairly obvious he wouldn’t play.
Title: Re: Molyneux
Post by: Padge_DRFC on August 30, 2025, 12:05:19 pm
Looks like we'll be playing wingers on their strong footed side. Let's hope Bailey arriving on time as normal to get on the end