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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: mpc123 on December 29, 2025, 10:08:27 pm
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
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Fans brilliant
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
The more we get behind the team rather than criticising every mistake the players make things will be a lot better. Those idiots just need to lower their expectations of what we are capable off, and before they come in and here and mention that the manager thinks we can compete, of course he is going to say that. He isn't going to come out and say the players aren't good enough for this league so strap yourself in for a poor season.
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Sorry, have to take an opposing view to that. Another game, another boatload of goals conceded. Another game where we just can't stay remotely solid against well organised teams. This feels terminal for our season.
When we kick off, it's like we're already a goal down, thats how shockingly weak and disorganised we look. When we scored the opener, I celebrated like always but quickly got a knot in my stomach watching us head back to the centre circle. I just knew we'd concede before long.
If you think that shows a lack of belief, don't watch their third goal back, christ. Nobody closing down the cross. Nobody bothers to challenge at the back post. It's like we just accepted it. And every week the players accept the softest goals that teams don't have to work hard for.
Yes, at times we were unlucky. The penalty looked soft. Bailey missed a sitter. Sharp would've scored but for some great defending. But you can't complain about luck when the players completely throw the towel in and treat big moments like a half arsed training exercise. We are so, so easy to play against. That's the problem. What do we work on in training?
I dont get to many away games these days and I'm sat in the back of my mates car with the heating doing sod all so that's probably playing a part but I'm livid after watching that.
I will say the fans were a positive tonight but we don't get any points for that.
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It’s not just bite though is it, I bet they didn’t even know we had midfields on the pitch… we were not even in the same postcode for tackles to add the bite you mention, and haven’t been f9r months now.
As the County commentators mentioned - there is a high quality players in our squad, but we ain’t a team!
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
Midfield is about the only place we're ok!
We need 2 new centre backs and a proper established striker
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Sorry, have to take an opposing view to that. Another game, another boatload of goals conceded. Another game where we just can't stay remotely solid against well organised teams. This feels terminal for our season.
When we kick off, it's like we're already a goal down, thats how shockingly weak and disorganised we look. When we scored the opener, I celebrated like always but quickly got a knot in my stomach watching us head back to the centre circle. I just knew we'd concede before long.
If you think that shows a lack of belief, don't watch their third goal back, christ. Nobody closing down the cross. Nobody bothers to challenge at the back post. It's like we just accepted it. And every week the players accept the softest goals that teams don't have to work hard for.
Yes, at times we were unlucky. The penalty looked soft. Bailey missed a sitter. Sharp would've scored but for some great defending. But you can't complain about luck when the players completely throw the towel in and treat big moments like a half arsed training exercise. We are so, so easy to play against. That's the problem. What do we work on in training?
I dont get to many away games these days and I'm sat in the back of my mates car with the heating doing sod all so that's probably playing a part but I'm livid after watching that.
I will say the fans were a positive tonight but we don't get any points for that.
No am point superlatives will alter the fact that goals from strikers who know how to battle to win …, we don’t have this in any quantity! Supporters have seen this coming and it can’t change a thing until IT changes and we invest big in a goal scorer..
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Penalty is actually a foul on Senior first
2nd goal Wooton is just faster to react than Pearson
3rd McGrath bullied by Wooton
4th chasing game
Playing with 10 men when Sharp comes on doesn't help either.
Bailey chance at 2v2 has to go in.
Close is better than Broadbent but that's not too hard.
Imagine Middleton will likely start v Bolton. Bar hitting the post I forgot Gibson was playing and has gone missing for about a month. Bring him back in for the Bradford game
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Well done players & fans tonight, one day we will take these chances. Lady luck has deserted us big time. That's the second game against these that should have had them down to ten. Centre half needed, striker needed, midfielder needed. Gutted tonight.
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Penalty is actually a foul on Senior first
2nd goal Wooton is just faster to react than Pearson
3rd McGrath bullied by Wooton
4th chasing game
Playing with 10 men when Sharp comes on doesn't help either.
Bailey chance at 2v2 has to go in.
Close is better than Broadbent but that's not too hard.
Imagine Middleton will likely start v Bolton. Bar hitting the post I forgot Gibson was playing and has gone missing for about a month. Bring him back in for the Bradford game
Penalty was a pen. Senior had a handful of shirt and pulled him over. Nobody saw the handful of seniors shirt without replays. We dont have VAR at this level.
2nd goal is a L1 striker reacting/expecting quicker than an aging CB
3rd goal, agree, McGraths inexperience and getting bullied.
4th I missed due to blue circle of death
Close was terrible first half, misplaced loads of passes which is normally his strongest atribute. For me should have gone off at HT.
I have long been a critic of Gibson but thought he played well, some great touches and play and also worked his socks off.
Im a die hard Billy fan but even I am getting tired of his arsey attitude now. He is just a constant risk of yellow/red.
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It’s getting to the point now, where I have no interest in performances. With 1 win in 16 and 5 defeats in a row. We are far too easy to play against and made it easy for Stockport to score. I really do worry for us. Watching Donny at the minute it’s hard to find much joy especially considering we’ve conceded 14 in 4 games.
Call me a pessimist but I don’t see us getting anything against Bolton or Luton and then it’s 1 win in 18
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Well done players & fans tonight, one day we will take these chances. Lady luck has deserted us big time. That's the second game against these that should have had them down to ten. Centre half needed, striker needed, midfielder needed. Gutted tonight.
Agree , even though it would have only been 10 minutes of us v 10 men the Ref cannot be excused for not sending Norwood off for a second yellow for the " tackle " on Senior
But he did what lots of them do and bottled it
Added time again 6 minutes and that cheat hills rolled on floor , then had a go at our fans for having a pop at him
Then he looked to be pointing out the offenders to the Muppet Ref and finally the keeper took the Goal Kick and we lost 1 minute 45 seconds of that added time.
Next we saw them get a throw on left touchline and the injured limping thrower ambled over to take the throw and another 45 seconds of the 6 added was lost to us .... 2 minutes 30 just in those 2 incidents
Whether Billy barged Hills at the death ( it looked like the other way round to me ) but the Ref gave them a Free kick and gave Sharp a Yellow and another 1 min 25 gone.
It stinks
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Rob Street would have us way further up the league and TSL too (not that I put any blame on Lawlor)
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
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Rob Street would have us way further up the league and TSL too (not that I put any blame on Lawlor)
And so would Tom Anderson.
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
I'm surprised nobody has commented about Lawlor palming it into the danger zone, cos I think it's a fair bet TLT would have. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Lawlor could have done much else.
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Penalty is actually a foul on Senior first
2nd goal Wooton is just faster to react than Pearson
3rd McGrath bullied by Wooton
4th chasing game
Playing with 10 men when Sharp comes on doesn't help either.
Bailey chance at 2v2 has to go in.
Close is better than Broadbent but that's not too hard.
Imagine Middleton will likely start v Bolton. Bar hitting the post I forgot Gibson was playing and has gone missing for about a month. Bring him back in for the Bradford game
What world are you in where close is better than Broadbent? Broadbent is a very good player
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Sorry, have to take an opposing view to that. Another game, another boatload of goals conceded. Another game where we just can't stay remotely solid against well organised teams. This feels terminal for our season.
When we kick off, it's like we're already a goal down, thats how shockingly weak and disorganised we look. When we scored the opener, I celebrated like always but quickly got a knot in my stomach watching us head back to the centre circle. I just knew we'd concede before long.
If you think that shows a lack of belief, don't watch their third goal back, christ. Nobody closing down the cross. Nobody bothers to challenge at the back post. It's like we just accepted it. And every week the players accept the softest goals that teams don't have to work hard for.
Yes, at times we were unlucky. The penalty looked soft. Bailey missed a sitter. Sharp would've scored but for some great defending. But you can't complain about luck when the players completely throw the towel in and treat big moments like a half arsed training exercise. We are so, so easy to play against. That's the problem. What do we work on in training?
I dont get to many away games these days and I'm sat in the back of my mates car with the heating doing sod all so that's probably playing a part but I'm livid after watching that.
I will say the fans were a positive tonight but we don't get any points for that.
I said yesterday and I've been thinking it for a while.
The only way we survive this season is by putting Bailey to centre back. We haven't got another one in the squad remotely good enough for this scrap. We've got to start by being tight. We aren't going to get out of this by saying "You score 3 and we'll score 4".
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I’ve said elsewhere, we don’t have a proper No.1 keeper.
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Sorry, have to take an opposing view to that. Another game, another boatload of goals conceded. Another game where we just can't stay remotely solid against well organised teams. This feels terminal for our season.
When we kick off, it's like we're already a goal down, thats how shockingly weak and disorganised we look. When we scored the opener, I celebrated like always but quickly got a knot in my stomach watching us head back to the centre circle. I just knew we'd concede before long.
If you think that shows a lack of belief, don't watch their third goal back, christ. Nobody closing down the cross. Nobody bothers to challenge at the back post. It's like we just accepted it. And every week the players accept the softest goals that teams don't have to work hard for.
Yes, at times we were unlucky. The penalty looked soft. Bailey missed a sitter. Sharp would've scored but for some great defending. But you can't complain about luck when the players completely throw the towel in and treat big moments like a half arsed training exercise. We are so, so easy to play against. That's the problem. What do we work on in training?
I dont get to many away games these days and I'm sat in the back of my mates car with the heating doing sod all so that's probably playing a part but I'm livid after watching that.
I will say the fans were a positive tonight but we don't get any points for that.
I said yesterday and I've been thinking it for a while.
The only way we survive this season is by putting Bailey to centre back. We haven't got another one in the squad remotely good enough for this scrap. We've got to start by being tight. We aren't going to get out of this by saying "You score 3 and we'll score 4".
I’d sign 2 centre halves if I could only make two signings in January. Damming thing to say after we signed 3 in the summer!
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Rob Street would have us way further up the league and TSL too (not that I put any blame on Lawlor)
And so would Tom Anderson.
Don’t think he’s impressing the locals at Salop and they’re struggling to stay in the football league. Our defence is bad and there’s no protection from midfield but I think watching big Tom in this league would be the end for me.
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Well done players & fans tonight, one day we will take these chances. Lady luck has deserted us big time. That's the second game against these that should have had them down to ten. Centre half needed, striker needed, midfielder needed. Gutted tonight.
Agree , even though it would have only been 10 minutes of us v 10 men the Ref cannot be excused for not sending Norwood off for a second yellow for the " tackle " on Senior
But he did what lots of them do and bottled it
Added time again 6 minutes and that cheat hills rolled on floor , then had a go at our fans for having a pop at him
Then he looked to be pointing out the offenders to the Muppet Ref and finally the keeper took the Goal Kick and we lost 1 minute 45 seconds of that added time.
Next we saw them get a throw on left touchline and the injured limping thrower ambled over to take the throw and another 45 seconds of the 6 added was lost to us .... 2 minutes 30 just in those 2 incidents
Whether Billy barged Hills at the death ( it looked like the other way round to me ) but the Ref gave them a Free kick and gave Sharp a Yellow and another 1 min 25 gone.
It stinks
I thought Billy could have been sent off. It looked like a forearm smash into the back of Hills’ head.
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
I'm surprised nobody has commented about Lawlor palming it into the danger zone, cos I think it's a fair bet TLT would have. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Lawlor could have done much else.
It was a great reaction save, the rebound was almost on the line and wide, no way should Wootton score there
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Wootton was in an offside position when the shot was taken then lawlor saves and he taps in . So goal should not have stood
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
I'm surprised nobody has commented about Lawlor palming it into the danger zone, cos I think it's a fair bet TLT would have. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Lawlor could have done much else.
It was a great reaction save, the rebound was almost on the line and wide, no way should Wootton score there
This TLT wouldn't have saved this at all. He's saved it whilst going the other way. CB Pearson plays like he's 50
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We had an impressive start to the season with this group of players, so they can’t be that bad?
We were all singing this squad’s praises a few months ago and some were talking about promotion.
What’s changed?
When the footballing Gods are against you…
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
Midfield is about the only place we're ok!
We need 2 new centre backs and a proper established striker
We’re not OK there, teams run through our midfield at will
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
Midfield is about the only place we're ok!
We need 2 new centre backs and a proper established striker
We’re not OK there, teams run through our midfield at will
Correct. We aren’t ok but we will be. The quality is there but it’s up to the Manager and Coaching staff to work out how best to use it.
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
Midfield is about the only place we're ok!
We need 2 new centre backs and a proper established striker
We’re not OK there, teams run through our midfield at will
Is that the personnel or our set up though. So many times we play a 3 with 2 of them so high and wide they aren’t in position to do their defensive job. We’ve seen that Bailey & Broadbent are good enough and Clifton has done well in there.
I think it’s how we set up and what we ask of the midfield which leaves it wide open. Baileys strength is getting into the box so we need someone sitting with Broadbent who just sticks in there.
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Sedwards:
I think it’s how we set up and what we ask of the midfield which leaves it wide open.
Absolutely spot on.
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Thats players and fans tonight.
I thought we played really well and the 700 fans who went amazing.
A bit more bite in midfield and I think we will be OK.
Im sure there will be some idiots that come on here and slag the team off, same old ones.
We are not far off you know, at all.
Midfield is about the only place we're ok!
We need 2 new centre backs and a proper established striker
We’re not OK there, teams run through our midfield at will
Correct. We aren’t ok but we will be. The quality is there but it’s up to the Manager and Coaching staff to work out how best to use it.
They’ve had two seasons with largely the same players. If they dont already know now we are in trouble!
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There was a lot of good work and effort by some of the lads last night, and a good number of opportunities for us to have maybe won that game.
However yet again we failed to take those chances when they were created.
Yet some players continuing with little output or making mistakes.
Hanlan again was struggling to get hold of the ball.
Gibson lost the ball too easily and again doesn’t have any fight to chase hard and tackle when off the ball.
McGrath was again bullied by an experienced striker, and was struggling to cope with Players in this league.
Pearson seemed way off last night, which is really disappointing because with his experience he should be able to command and help the younger guys around him.
Also I always appreciate Ben close, probably more than others on here, but can’t understand why he started instead of Broadbent, a player close to his home turf so would have had extra incentive to perform, which showed when he came on.
Also not sure why Gotts started instead of Clifton?
Stockport have been struggling recently at home and with injuries and we helped to silence the crowd with our first goal, so I honestly believe the game was there for the taking.
Again bails and mols, two of our best performers and I am really worried we may lose these two, with bids that these two would want to be accepted.
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I'm slightly confused how you can say we played very well, it was like reading a book. We scored then gave them the stonewall penalty, they go in front and we deserved to draw level, knowing that we would eventually concede yet again, then the book was closed shut. We had chances to make it 3-3 but the lack of fire power was clearly evident, like it's been all season, BS got to go
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
A bit harsh, it was a reaction save, a good one at that, impossible to catch, it still went away from goal at an acute angle, no way should Wootton be scoring from there.
(On a side note my wifes maiden name is Wootton)
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
Don't get me wrong, I was very happy with the TLT signing based on his last spell, but I think it says a lot about our recruitment that a keeper who didn't play a single league game in L2 last season is now miles closer to being #1 choice in L1 and is getting a run in the team on a regular basis.
Ben Close has played more than 2x as many league minutes for us this season as he did last season (albeit I know injuries played a part there)
Only 3 of the summer signings started last night. None of them really seem to have improved us.
I know January has saved us for the last 2 seasons but it feels like bigger changes are needed this time to get us to where we need to be. My concern is that the January window is a very difficult time to do that.
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The summer signings were a disaster and contribute to where we are at the moment.hope we can get out of the position we are in by sorting out our defence.
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
A bit harsh, it was a reaction save, a good one at that, impossible to catch, it still went away from goal at an acute angle, no way should Wootton be scoring from there.
(On a side note my wifes maiden name is Wootton)
Any relation to Charlie Wooton who worked at Rockware in the 70s?
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
A bit harsh, it was a reaction save, a good one at that, impossible to catch, it still went away from goal at an acute angle, no way should Wootton be scoring from there.
(On a side note my wifes maiden name is Wootton)
Any relation to Charlie Wooton who worked at Rockware in the 70s?
Doesn’t ring a bell, but Father in law was Joe Wootton who worked at Rockware at that time
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The thing is it’s ok saying we played well last night and at Cardiff but the reality is in those 2 games we have conceded 8 goals. To me that’s a total contradiction.
There’s far more to football than playing some neat and tidy stuff. In those 2 games we have, BUT the other stuff what’s needed in terms or closing down, staying with your man, playing the percentages showing initiative at set plays etc we are no where to be seen .
We just don’t do the fundamentals at all in every single game and it’s going to cost us big time.
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Lawlor did ok today, no complaints.
Amazing, no screaming and shouting about palming a ball to their centre forward. Double standards?
I don't know what your beef is. On current form, TLT is nowhere near Lawlor.