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drfchound

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #150 on November 13, 2023, 05:31:54 pm by drfchound »
Camps, haven’t you heard, it is cut and dried, stitched on.



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BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #151 on November 13, 2023, 05:44:52 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The despised Tory is dead. Long live the despised Tory.

Do YOU think he was a good PM?
No.

Then isn't it fair to point out his failings?
His failings as PM many years ago has little or nothing to do with his ability to do this job, right now.
You do not want a competent Tory Home Secretary, whoever it may be.

Do you really need to ask whether I want us to be governed by competent people?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #152 on November 13, 2023, 05:59:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »

Donnywolf

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #153 on November 13, 2023, 06:01:00 pm by Donnywolf »
I'm sure ( no I'm not sure ) that Cameron can't speak in House of Commons as the HOL and HOC are " designed" ( who designed that idea ) to be kept completely apart

Apparently Hoyle is looking at the intricacies of the " problem "
« Last Edit: November 13, 2023, 06:03:46 pm by Donnywolf »

belton rover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #154 on November 13, 2023, 06:47:02 pm by belton rover »
The despised Tory is dead. Long live the despised Tory.

Do YOU think he was a good PM?
No.

Then isn't it fair to point out his failings?
His failings as PM many years ago has little or nothing to do with his ability to do this job, right now.
You do not want a competent Tory Home Secretary, whoever it may be.

Do you really need to ask whether I want us to be governed by competent people?
I didn’t say people, as you well know.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #155 on November 13, 2023, 06:53:33 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Phew.

Alright. Do you actually think I want Tory politicians to be utterly incompetent when they are running the country?

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #156 on November 13, 2023, 07:34:58 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
I'm sure ( no I'm not sure ) that Cameron can't speak in House of Commons as the HOL and HOC are " designed" ( who designed that idea ) to be kept completely apart

Apparently Hoyle is looking at the intricacies of the " problem "

Surely the rules would be the same as when Lord Carrington was Foreign Secretary?

MachoMadness

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #157 on November 13, 2023, 07:42:22 pm by MachoMadness »
Jesus H Corbett.

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1724115325283700826
Remember when "woke" just meant "aware of systemic racism"?

What is her job going to be? Putting stuff in boxes marked "woke" and "not woke"? This is just not serious behaviour.

belton rover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #158 on November 13, 2023, 07:50:44 pm by belton rover »
Phew.

Alright. Do you actually think I want Tory politicians to be utterly incompetent when they are running the country?
Billy, when you start with the condescending comedy ‘phews’, I’ve no interest in carrying on the debate with you.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #159 on November 13, 2023, 08:05:55 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Belton.

I did that because it's frustrating when someone reads into a post an intent that was never there.

But I can see where this is in danger of going, so I'll drop out too.

SydneyRover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #160 on November 13, 2023, 10:00:53 pm by SydneyRover »
''Cameron’s appointment comes two years after BBC Panorama revealed documents suggesting Mr Cameron had made about made about £8 million promoting Greensill Capital, whose boss Lex Greensill had previously been given his own office in Downing Street. The company, which collapsed in 2021, left investors missing billions of dollars, with criminal inquiries ongoing to this day in Germany and Switzerland''

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/11/13/david-cameron-rishi-sunak-braverman-reshuffle-braverman-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-political-integrity/

wilts rover

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #161 on November 13, 2023, 10:10:35 pm by wilts rover »
(My) greatest regret is that we lost the Brexit referendum, that I didn't prevail.

David Cameron in his autobiography, 2019

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/29/764199387/david-cameron-calls-the-brexit-referendum-his-greatest-regret

Filo

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #162 on November 14, 2023, 05:29:40 pm by Filo »
She was happyto serve under a Pm without a mandate and uses that to attack him today

Sit back folks, and watch the Tory Party implode

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #163 on November 14, 2023, 06:10:20 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
It won't because sunak is on the right side of the argument. Her statements pathetic.

wilts rover

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« Reply #164 on November 14, 2023, 06:39:56 pm by wilts rover »
It won't because sunak is on the right side of the argument. Her statements pathetic.

If she has a written document that he signed and then reneged on, as she appears to hint at in that, then Sunak will be the next Tory ex-PM. No way will the Dail Heil let him get away with that.

Speculation that is why Cameron has been brought in. Next PM if Sunak goes.

Popcorn sales going through the roof I hear.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #165 on November 14, 2023, 07:05:15 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Wow!

The Tory Civil War is going to be Denaby Rules.

They can wave goodbye to power for a generation if this is how they are going to act.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #166 on November 14, 2023, 10:48:10 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Wow!

The Tory Civil War is going to be Denaby Rules.

They can wave goodbye to power for a generation if this is how they are going to act.

The only way I can see them recovering in the short-to-mid term is for them to go on bended knee and beg Ruth Davidson to give up her peerage and become leader. Other than her I can't see anyone that stands out that might be able to turn it around for them.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #167 on November 14, 2023, 11:00:35 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Why, is Ruth Davidson a good enough Tory to compete against the magnificent Keir Starmer?

drfchound

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #168 on November 14, 2023, 11:01:40 pm by drfchound »
Why, is Ruth Davidson a good enough Tory to compete against the magnificent Keir Starmer?

No one is good enough.
He has a 20 point lead.
Foregone conclusion mate.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #169 on November 14, 2023, 11:06:01 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Hound, I'll have you know that Starmer is about as genuine as ............................... his supporters!

Sprotyrover

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« Reply #170 on November 15, 2023, 05:58:17 pm by Sprotyrover »

Iberian Red

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #171 on November 16, 2023, 04:21:23 pm by Iberian Red »
It’s all kicked off!
https://x.com/mahyartousi/status/1724773875253178761?s=61

Hmm. My personal opinion is that they are both absolute kitsons. However is there really any need to post racist stereotypes?
Or are you playing to the crowd?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Braverman offically a liar
« Reply #172 on November 16, 2023, 04:31:56 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
It’s all kicked off!
https://x.com/mahyartousi/status/1724773875253178761?s=61

Hmm. My personal opinion is that they are both absolute kitsons. However is there really any need to post racist stereotypes?
Or are you playing to the crowd?

It's an interesting point.

The video was posted by someone who I believe has Indian ancestry.

Is it ok to laugh at that then, if someone from that cultural background posts something poking fun at a stereotype of that culture?

Was it wrong to laugh at Goodness Gracious Me? (The comedy series, not Peter Sellers' blatantly racist song.)

 

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