Away tickets - points allocation

[silent majority]

On Monday of next week there’s a meeting to discuss the current away ticket and points allocation that currently exists at DRFC.

If anybody has any comments or changes they think should be discussed I'm happy to put those forward for you.

I've raised this during this season, but there needs to be a step in the sales between the amount of points a season tickets hold, and general sale. Otherwise someone who makes it to, say, 20 games a season is in no better position to buy a ticket for a big game than someone who has never been to a game before.

It's an issue that largely effects exiles, but I'd say that's not an insignificant portion of our support these days.

Agreed, however unlike international matches for example where there may be months between allocation and the event our games come along a lot faster.

However with our games we should also be able to tell when they’ll be going to general sale and could set things accordingly. In other words we shouldn’t have to wait and see how well they’re selling, we should know instinctively and therefore put a step in-between.

[CoppsOnTheRocks]

The current system is perfectly fair. You go to a game, you get a point, irrespective of distance.

You can't have a system that rewards people travelling away with higher points because the same could be said for someone travelling to home games every week when they don't live in Doncaster.

[EasyforDennis]

Other than the point made earlier about kids having the same points as their parent/guardian, I wouldn't change anything.

[DrewSouthStand]

One minor thing but you get the away loyalty point just for buying the ticket and not for going the game. Found that out by accident and not many will spend on a ticket just for one point but if there's a way it can be logged if someone actually went after all most tickets are electronic and unique no? Not an issue now as we don't sell out away but taking my experience with England it used to be rife with buying a ticket and not going in order to get the point and not spend on travel. Who knows we get to championship and people do it more often

[Janso]

One minor thing but you get the away loyalty point just for buying the ticket and not for going the game. Found that out by accident and not many will spend on a ticket just for one point but if there's a way it can be logged if someone actually went after all most tickets are electronic and unique no? Not an issue now as we don't sell out away but taking my experience with England it used to be rife with buying a ticket and not going in order to get the point and not spend on travel. Who knows we get to championship and people do it more often

I know at least one person who has done this on multiple occasions, bought 'his' ticket on behalf of a friend. Pisses me off.




My only input would be if you're going to make any changes, possibly give the shite unattractive fixtures more weighting, but don't think there necessarily needs to be a change.

[Danmckay456]

Why do we always have to reinvent the wheel
If it’s not broken don’t fix it

Nobody suggested we were reinventing the wheel.

Its just going in for its MOT, if it passes then it will be left alone.

Depends what garage you take it to :-)

[VivaRovers]

On Monday of next week there’s a meeting to discuss the current away ticket and points allocation that currently exists at DRFC.

If anybody has any comments or changes they think should be discussed I'm happy to put those forward for you.

I've raised this during this season, but there needs to be a step in the sales between the amount of points a season tickets hold, and general sale. Otherwise someone who makes it to, say, 20 games a season is in no better position to buy a ticket for a big game than someone who has never been to a game before.

It's an issue that largely effects exiles, but I'd say that's not an insignificant portion of our support these days.

Agreed, however unlike international matches for example where there may be months between allocation and the event our games come along a lot faster.

However with our games we should also be able to tell when they’ll be going to general sale and could set things accordingly. In other words we shouldn’t have to wait and see how well they’re selling, we should know instinctively and therefore put a step in-between.

Appreciate that, and do get that it's a balancing act.

[roversdude]

Appreciate that it may be out of Rovers hands but can imagine it’s difficult for some people when multiple games go on sale at the same time

[In the box]

I think the way tickets are released has improved after they tweaked the way they release them.

Supply outstripping demand doesn't occur frequently enough to warrant making the system more complex IMO.

Agreed.

I know most EPL clubs, and quite a number in the Championship, have major issues with their away allocations because of allocations selling out every week. That's not a problem we currently have.

In my opinion it should even be less complex than it already is.

if we’re not selling out our away allocation, why is the current system at fault or requiring reviewing . IMO season ticket holder I assume are the main purchasers of away tickets and perhaps they need prioritising with  insensitives to help raise this up further, because they’ve demonstrated that their willing ness to take their support on the road , how about launching an away season ticket bought in injunction with the home tickets .

[tingleyrover]

IMO the club should boost points allocations for certain fixtures whereby we want a bigger crowd. I.e. latter stages of the trophy. Fans aren’t bothered and it’s ok Sky but if it got you 2 or 3 times the chance of a derby away?

I think season ticket holders should get more priority points allocated based on loyalty, I.e how many consecutive years have you held one? Give bonus points at thresholds.

The club should have the option of taking points away for specific things. For example, get caught causing trouble away? Priority points to 0 along with any other sanction. It’s then hard to get in to the higher profile matches where the problems are likely to be once ban is over. Would also make some think twice.

[silent majority]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to home ticket allocations.

[In the box]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to  home ticket allocations.

No incentives to buy away tickets why? if your trying to improve the take up . What not offer bigger % off when renewing your season tickets  if you travel above 50%  of the away games rising for 100% a bigger discount  for the following season on renewals of season ticket . Just a thought !!

[hamiltonrover]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to  home ticket allocations.

No incentives to buy away tickets why? if your trying to improve the take up . What not offer bigger % off when renewing your season tickets  if you travel above 50%  of the away games rising for 100% a bigger discount  for the following season on renewals of season ticket . Just a thought !!

So what you're saying is... if you go to more away games (where the club gets a small % cut of income), you should get a discount on a home season ticket (where the club gets a significant amount of income). That doesn't make any commercial sense at all, considering we already offer one of the cheapest ST's in the league.

[roversdude]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to  home ticket allocations.

No incentives to buy away tickets why? if your trying to improve the take up . What not offer bigger % off when renewing your season tickets  if you travel above 50%  of the away games rising for 100% a bigger discount  for the following season on renewals of season ticket . Just a thought !!

So what you're saying is... if you go to more away games (where the club gets a small % cut of income), you should get a discount on a home season ticket (where the club gets a significant amount of income). That doesn't make any commercial sense at all, considering we already offer one of the cheapest ST's in the league.

Baffling

[silent majority]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to  home ticket allocations.

No incentives to buy away tickets why? if your trying to improve the take up . What not offer bigger % off when renewing your season tickets  if you travel above 50%  of the away games rising for 100% a bigger discount  for the following season on renewals of season ticket . Just a thought !!

Firstly, the points allocation for away games isn’t about increasing the attendance, its about ensuring that the more loyal away supporters can buy their tickets first, and not lose out when there's a mad scramble when the away allocation will sell out quickly.
There's not many games in this league that will sell out early, but it does happen, and having a process in place makes sense.

And, as has been pointed out already, there’s no commercial gain to be had by discounting home tickets as an incentive. Remember for away games we don't get the revenue, the home side gets that. All DRFC get is a commission for handling the away ticket. Doing what you suggest would be financial suicide.

[In the box]

To follow up on what's been posted so far;

The meeting lasted just over an hour and the main points are;

Agreed to keep the points structure as is
Clearer advertising of away fixtures, stating allocations (initial or full) and specify blocks given
Advertise tickets sold each day
Remove points for complimentary tickets
Most tickets now digital, as EFL request, but club will still print if required

There was a lot of other stuff too, but mostly about individual requests etc, plus some stuff with regard to  home ticket allocations.

No incentives to buy away tickets why? if your trying to improve the take up . What not offer bigger % off when renewing your season tickets  if you travel above 50%  of the away games rising for 100% a bigger discount  for the following season on renewals of season ticket . Just a thought !!

So what you're saying is... if you go to more away games (where the club gets a small % cut of income), you should get a discount on a home season ticket (where the club gets a significant amount of income). That doesn't make any commercial sense at all, considering we already offer one of the cheapest ST's in the league.

What I’m saying is .As an incentive to buy away tickets as we do not always sellout our allocation  . Those who are already season ticket holders and who travel regularly , should get rewards points towards the next following  - season home tickets , and it would Build loyalty and grow the season ticket holder allocation . The stadium at home is only 60-70% full and it’s about time it was 80-90% at all home games . Financial incentives build loyalty and build a larger platform for the future. Only on a handful on a few occasions have we had 95-100% of our 15k capacity. Bradford get almost three time our home capacity every home game . Incentives to buy more away games which often more expensive , but if you get points towards that you could use to purchase the following season ticket may help grow both end of the support.

[Rupee92ONLY]

The regular away followers will (practically all) be season ticket holders already. You’re never charging someone less for a service they are a certainty to pay full whack for. Why do you think companies do ‘New Customers Only’ offers?

[In the box]

The regular away followers will (practically all) be season ticket holders already. You’re never charging someone less for a service they are a certainty to pay full whack for. Why do you think companies do ‘New Customers Only’ offers?

A points loyalty system which allows to redeem when sufficient point earned and used against season ticket purchases the following season . Points could be earned from any purchase at the stadium ie food , programs red /white half time tickets or hospitality , shirts etc . But good points earned when purchasing an away ticket to grow the away supporter at larger venues .

[redarmi66]

The regular away followers will (practically all) be season ticket holders already. You’re never charging someone less for a service they are a certainty to pay full whack for. Why do you think companies do ‘New Customers Only’ offers?

A points loyalty system which allows to redeem when sufficient point earned and used against season ticket purchases the following season . Points could be earned from any purchase at the stadium ie food , programs red /white half time tickets or hospitality , shirts etc . But good points earned when purchasing an away ticket to grow the away supporter at larger venues .

I like the idea of gaining points by spending at the ground ie food drink club shop etc