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idler

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #30 on April 07, 2019, 09:46:52 am by idler »
Of cuss not hound.
It's the West Yorkshire accent that I've acquired over the last 40 years.😉
I did have a few pre-match pints followed by a couple of after match pints as it was a home game for me. I think that affected my spelling last night.😳🍻



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Park Rover

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #31 on April 07, 2019, 10:04:40 am by Park Rover »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”

It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.

I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)

Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.

since-1969

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #32 on April 07, 2019, 10:19:35 am by since-1969 »
I would imagine McCann has similar thoughts . I do think next season will see a more competitive front line and an emphasis on a target striker along side pace . Marquis is fascinating to watch and his game is does fluctuate from brilliant to “get him off” but he’d be sorely missed if he left .

Chris Black come back

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #33 on April 07, 2019, 10:25:48 am by Chris Black come back »
These last two post are a fair analysis. He is clearly a very good player certainly at League One level.

Equally though he has scored one in ten and that was a penalty, and got sent off in that run of games. He has become increasingly ineffective as season has progressed and this is probably a result of how working himself very hard, teams finding him out, lack of direct replacement and subconsciously him knowing his place at centre of that three is locked down whatever.

We certainly need to retain him but in doing so find a way to have him supported or challenged more for that central striking position.

sha66y

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #34 on April 07, 2019, 10:32:29 am by sha66y »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”

It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.

I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)

Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.


Exactly!
These are my concerns too....
I hope the fact that Wilkes is the substitutionary fall guy doesn’t affect any plans he may have for a future at Donny

I will always champion Marquis to be our main striker, but when it’s not happening for him,
I wouldn’t think to replace the assistant who is in form!




sha66y

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #35 on April 07, 2019, 10:44:36 am by sha66y »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


 

He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.

Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.

Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous

I’m afraid you may be wheeling out them same stats until the end of the season,
however...they are “old stats”  from a time when Marquis was scoring regularly , from a time when we created many many chances,

and yes they did propel him into an enviable position, ...however things change!
Stats become diluted and look less impressive when placed into a different context,
We need John to be scoring NOW whilst we are playing the teams struggling, we need John to be driving us into the Play offs with goals and commanding performances, so we can say we did it by being the 6th best team in the division, with the best striker in the division...




IDM

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #36 on April 07, 2019, 11:05:04 am by IDM »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”

It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.

I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)

Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.


The difference is, you have reasons for your opinion of Marquis, which is completely fair even if people disagree..

Esdaille gave no reason, just a blamket unjustified statement, so of course people will react..

dickos1

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #37 on April 07, 2019, 02:14:38 pm by dickos1 »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


 

He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.

Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.

Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous

I’m afraid you may be wheeling out them same stats until the end of the season,
however...they are “old stats”  from a time when Marquis was scoring regularly , from a time when we created many many chances,

and yes they did propel him into an enviable position, ...however things change!
Stats become diluted and look less impressive when placed into a different context,
We need John to be scoring NOW whilst we are playing the teams struggling, we need John to be driving us into the Play offs with goals and commanding performances, so we can say we did it by being the 6th best team in the division, with the best striker in the division...





They arent old stats, he’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s shortlisted for the best player in the league.
These are all current facts.
Nothing to do with what’s happened in the past

dickos1

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #38 on April 07, 2019, 02:17:40 pm by dickos1 »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”

It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.

I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)

Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.


You only make a contribution to this forum to be negative about marquis. And you only ever appear on here when he’s having a loss of form or had a bad game.
Nowhere to be seen when he’s scoring every week

adamtherover

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #39 on April 07, 2019, 02:32:06 pm by adamtherover »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”

It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.

I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)

Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.

I think thewilks  subbing is more down to stop him being constantly fouled, protect him from any yellows if he retaliated, plus to give him individual crowd praise when coming off... brilliant man management by GM

dickos1

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #40 on April 07, 2019, 02:52:18 pm by dickos1 »
Interesting stat
The last time we won 4 games in a row the 4th game was against Plymouth

Park Rover

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #41 on April 07, 2019, 03:02:01 pm by Park Rover »
Dickos 1
I’ve not posted on here for 6 weeks, don’t recall Marquis banging goals in for fun during that time , so the comment about not seeing me post when Marquis is doing well isn’t quite right is it 🤭🤭🤭, I’ve just not posted full stop

dickos1

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #42 on April 07, 2019, 03:07:34 pm by dickos1 »
Your only posts are slagging marquis off

scawsby steve

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #43 on April 07, 2019, 05:42:14 pm by scawsby steve »
It wasn't Esdaille's criticism of Marquis that was unjustified, it was his statement that Doyle is better. There's no evidence to support this at all. Apart from a few goals at Oldham, Doyle has hardly scored any since he left Chesterfield years ago.

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Re: Well that were shite but ..
« Reply #44 on April 07, 2019, 06:36:37 pm by Pancho Regan »
It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....

Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....

I am just pleased that we are grinding out results,  irrespective of who scores....


 

He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.

Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.

Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous

I’m eternally grateful to you Dickos for having the time and energy to post that.
I absolutely agree but couldn’t be bothered to post.

Marquis is worth ten of Doyle.

 

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