Cardiff City vs Doncaster Rovers

[PDX_Rover]

Can we start a campaign to have the Welsh clubs put in the League of Wales please?  In return, we'll take Berwick Rangers back from Scotland.

[snods big brother]

Fair swap

[DonnyBazR0ver]

we certainly have to learn. SOD talked about being brave and in that first 5 minutes of the second half, same as last week, we come out all limp wristed.

If the players don't respond, then SOD has to be brave himself with his subs.

I was always worried about pace, and I'm surprised he went with Locky and Thomas as a pairing. If he insists on playing JOC in his preferred position then Hird would have been a better choice IMO.

[twomikenewells]

Of course it's disppointing to lose and it sounds from player as though we have hardly created a serious effort and it is not a typical Rovers performance.

Not many teams will take points away at Cardiff, so as the previous poster suggests, let's just move on and seriously look forward to the return of Oster and many happiier Saturdays this season.

Cardiff are shaping already as Promotion certainties. Their wage bill for bellamy alone is way above our capability, so we somtimes need to understand what we are and where we are and be content with that.

It all beats days at Hednesford and Gravesend.

[Bald Rover]

Bellamy Prem player as is Koumas....and they have that lad from Man Utd, top it off eith Chopra Burke etc we were always on a hiding to nothing.....aparently cheats do prosper!

[alison o connor]

Last week we looked very weak defensively, not sure of the way forward to be honest, it doesn't matter who we play Jimmy is the only consistantly good player. One player in defence is no good in this league, but what can we do.

[Norfolk N Chance]

Every bloody time we lose - you lot make it sound we are hopeless FFS

Why can you lot not just except that on paper they were miles better and so it proved.

Why do you have to pull all the players to pieces ???

[MrFrost]

We need to sign a Mills/Shackell type centre back. I'm sorry but the likes of Lockwood and Martis are not not the answer. I've not seen enough of Thomas to pass judgement.
I reckon we need another left back aswell.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

A back 5 would shore things up better.

Hopefully, with Chambers back in for Friend, so until we unearth a good pacey centre half, then JOC needs to drop in.

If that means giving Dumbuya a licence to go forward then that is better than relying on him purely as a defensive full back in a flat back 4.

[MrFrost]

There wont be many parting with £28 for the Hull game now!
Same old though, promising start to the game, to fall off the wagon in the second half.

Oh well.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

And that's where the greedy exploitation backfires.

[Norfolk N Chance]

f**k em if that the attitude ...lost to a good team thats all!

[ruby12345]

have to agree norfolk.the moaning at every defeat and poor performance makes me sick.
cardiff will prove to be a top team this season.the front three they have plus burke will im sure lead them to promotion.we on the other hand are not rubbish and not brilliant.after every defeat all you see on here is a list of players who are rubbish and need replacing.

[Norfolk N Chance]

Ruby some of the people on here not got a clue !!!

[MrFrost]

ruby12345 wrote:

have to agree norfolk.the moaning at every defeat and poor performance makes me sick.
cardiff will prove to be a top team this season.the front three they have plus burke will im sure lead them to promotion.we on the other hand are not rubbish and not brilliant.after every defeat all you see on here is a list of players who are rubbish and need replacing.

There's a difference between moaning and pointing out where we are weak.

We are weak defensively, that is obvious. If all we did was applaud the efforts every game without highlighting areas for improvement, life on the forum owuld be very dull.

[VikingJames]

MrFrost wrote:

ruby12345 wrote:

have to agree norfolk.the moaning at every defeat and poor performance makes me sick.
cardiff will prove to be a top team this season.the front three they have plus burke will im sure lead them to promotion.we on the other hand are not rubbish and not brilliant.after every defeat all you see on here is a list of players who are rubbish and need replacing.

There's a difference between moaning and pointing out where we are weak.

We are weak defensively, that is obvious. If all we did was applaud the efforts every game without highlighting areas for improvement, life on the forum owuld be very dull.

Mr Frost is spot on.

Take the blinkers off guys!

[ruby12345]

would be better if we got behind the lads also.if we had won today you would have found something to moan about.

[MrFrost]

ruby12345 wrote:

would be better if we got behind the lads also.if we had won today you would have found something to moan about.

Who said anything about not being behind the team?
I pointed out against Preston we looked weak at the back.

On the flip side we have an excellent midfield.

Like I said, what's the point in a forum if we can't discuss performances and the team as a whole?

[ruby12345]

mcfrost having been a viewer of this forum for a very long time(but rarely post much)your moaning on all things drfc is the stuff of legend.

[MrFrost]

ruby12345 wrote:

mcfrost having been a viewer of this forum for a very long time(but rarely post much)your moaning on all things drfc is the stuff of legend.

No, it's just a case of being able to seperate moaning from constructive critisism.

[VikingJames]

ruby12345 wrote:

would be better if we got behind the lads also.if we had won today you would have found something to moan about.

Can't you point out that we've got a weak defence, and get behind the team at the same time? I wasn't aware of that one.

I wouldn't have found something to moan about. There is a big difference between being negative and being honest!

[ruby12345]

fair point mate.but in this thread ive seen certain players being labelled a liability,donkeys,useless,need replacing,hardly true is it and not supportive of the guys in question at all. kneejerk reactions to losing to a top top team.

[VikingJames]

I've seen the word liability, but not useless, donkeys or need replacing. Care to point them out?

Even so, maybe you should step back and consider they might be right! I don't mind people trying to be upbeat, as people respond in different ways, but it winds me up when people try to make out that all is rosy in the garden, and try to belittle the realists who point out some of the harsh truths.

[MrFrost]

ruby12345 wrote:

fair point mate.but in this thread ive seen certain players being labelled a liability,donkeys,useless,need replacing,hardly true is it and not supportive of the guys in question at all. kneejerk reactions to losing to a top top team.

Can you please highlight where any person has called a player a liability, a donkey or useless?

I pointed out that certain players are not the answer to our defensive issue's. As back up/squad players, i'd have them here all day long to come in every now and then and do a job, but we are desperately missing a commanding presence at the back (ie a Mills or Shackell).

[ruby12345]

whilst belittling the people who think we will be fine this season.like last season and the one before.

[Norfolk N Chance]

We have a defence that try there best against a team of world beaters - CB could play anywhere in the world !

Lets keep the faith and stop moaning !

[VikingJames]

ruby12345 wrote:

whilst belittling the people who think we will be fine this season.like last season and the one before.

I didn't say we wouldn't be fine this season.

I just said that the defence needs improving. Do you defy that?

[MrFrost]

Norfolk N Chance wrote:

We have a defence that try there best against a team of world beaters - CB could play anywhere in the world !

Lets keep the faith and stop moaning !

Were the same defence playing a team of world beaters last week?

I hear what your saying, but we are still lacking at the back.
We need that commanding figure there.

But, I have every confidence we'll be safe again this season.

[ruby12345]

it needs improving on todays evidence yes.
but on the previous 2 games and 2 friendlys with wendys and wba.no
give em a chance.
i have a feeling that cardiff would have bashed most teams today with all the euphoria over bellamy.

[ruby12345]

mr frost i dont want to get into an arguing match with you but against bristol city i remember the team as a whole not at thier best.i also dont remember much wrong with the defending that day either.bristol had only a limited number of chances.