Well everything is alright then Nick!

[Filo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/spending-review/8078454/Spending-review-David-Cameron-and-Nick-Clegg-apologise-for-broken-promises.html




In other words, b*llocks to what we promised now we`re elected, what was the ConDems motto, \"we will deliver on our promises\"            

[I-was-there1976]

what gets me is people who dont look for work because they dont need to.

Been to a house today in Stainy. Semi detached in a decent street.

Walked in. Nice tv in the lounge. Boyfriend playing on PS3. Girlfriend doin her nails on settee. Kids running everywhere. Apparantley he hasnt worked for 3 years and doesnt want to go back and she s too busy looking after the little ones. Upstairs, nicely decorated. Fully carpeted. Posh bathroom.

Gets talking about jobs and things. They get just short of £2k a month for sitting around playing games.

If the government could stop these types they wouldnt have to cut back on other things. They talk a good game but i doubt theyd deliver. I reckon i could go back in 2 years and he'll still be playing on the PS5 and she'll still be painting her toe nails

[jucyberry]

Shifty looking little so and so's.....Is this some kind of spin to make us think ah bless em, they meant well..?

I was watching this morning today, and it suddenly dawned on me...Isn't it amazing, everyone you see on tv saying these cuts have to happen is in recipt of a huge salary?

At the poorer end of the scale we aren't stupid, we also know there has to be changes, but changes as hard as some of these are much more difficult to celebrate when you earn 85k+ less than the have's on the box....

And another thing......

How many huge benefit gobbling families do you actually know of? These being the type of person at the center of the witch hunt that the media want us to believe are the root of all evil.
 Because unless it is a phemominon indigenous only to large urban areas I know of precicely none.

[Dagenham Rover]

I must admit I find the two of ems smarmy faces just the sort I want to walk up to and give  a ruddy great Glasgow Kiss

[Filo]

Dagenham.Rover wrote:

I must admit I find the two of ems smarmy faces just the sort I want to walk up to and give  a ruddy great Glasgow Kiss

Funnily enough, I said the very same thing during Gideon's speech yesterday!

[BobG]

And I still maintain that if there really is a culture of money grabbing layabouts then two things should always be rememnbered:

1) It stems from the top. No one, surely, can believe that the vast majority of those at set the example, and

2) we have had at least 2 generations of politicians who have failed dismally. Every election I can remember, and that's quite a few, the Tories have raised this cry. yet here they are, still making the same tired old claims. Are they suggesting then that 15 years of Maggie and Major didn't root out this appalling culture?

Personally, I simply don't believe it. Of course there will always be an example you can point to. But is that an endemic culture? 'I was There' bemoans higher up this thread a family getting 'just short of £2K a month'. By definition that's less than 24 grand a year. Nearer £23K probably. No one on this planet could say that is a fortune - even with one child. But 'I was There' implies there are multitudes of children - so his contempt shows him for what he must surely be.

Cheers

BobG

[Ian H]

Bob .... £23-£24k Tax free equates to about £36k salary ... not bad for us up North, not a lot for you Southerners!

I have spent my time on picket lines and could never ever envisage a time where I could support a blue candidate, but it isn't just the Tories that have vowed to clamp down on benefit fraud, scroungers and layabouts, yet still the Daily Mail & Express ()tell us that they are everywhere - as you say a couple of generations of elected members of all parties have failed dismally - lets shut down that place by the Thames and start afresh!

[BobG]

Aye Ian. You're right. Forgot about the tax business. I retract, some, of it. But the price of being a Southerner is I have to apply for my own job. Again. It's vicious. You wouldn't recognise the place. Legalised slavery comes to mind.

BobG

[Filo]

I-was-there1976 wrote:

what gets me is people who dont look for work because they dont need to.

Been to a house today in Stainy. Semi detached in a decent street.

Walked in. Nice tv in the lounge. Boyfriend playing on PS3. Girlfriend doin her nails on settee. Kids running everywhere. Apparantley he hasnt worked for 3 years and doesnt want to go back and she s too busy looking after the little ones. Upstairs, nicely decorated. Fully carpeted. Posh bathroom.

Gets talking about jobs and things. They get just short of £2k a month for sitting around playing games.

If the government could stop these types they wouldnt have to cut back on other things. They talk a good game but i doubt theyd deliver. I reckon i could go back in 2 years and he'll still be playing on the PS5 and she'll still be painting her toe nails

Where`s your manners? did n`t you knock on the door first?



Anyway, that family is not doing it right, at no point did you mention the half consumed White Star cider bottles lying around, unless they are new to the game        

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

And it gives a bad name to those of us genuinely trying to find work. 3rd interview of the week this afternoon, hopefully something will come up soon, it's getting tiresome now.

Interestingly I'm usually pro immigration (particularly from Europe as that's a right we have to go abroad aswell).  But I have to admit it's mighty frustrating going up against people from China for a job.  What right do they have to be taking jobs from people like me who've grown up in the UK.  I can take it from Europeans as the right works two ways and I can understand foreigners coming to jobs we can't/won't do.  But of the 16 of us at an assessment last Friday, 9 were foreign and from rich backgrounds too.  It stinks really and something should be done about it.  I'm all for filling workplace gaps etc but it's too easy for foreign students to stay post graduation and getting jobs over us UK students who could do the job quite well - mighty frustrating.

[Filo]

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

And it gives a bad name to those of us genuinely trying to find work. 3rd interview of the week this afternoon, hopefully something will come up soon, it's getting tiresome now.

Interestingly I'm usually pro immigration (particularly from Europe as that's a right we have to go abroad aswell).  But I have to admit it's mighty frustrating going up against people from China for a job.  What right do they have to be taking jobs from people like me who've grown up in the UK.  I can take it from Europeans as the right works two ways and I can understand foreigners coming to jobs we can't/won't do.  But of the 16 of us at an assessment last Friday, 9 were foreign and from rich backgrounds too.  It stinks really and something should be done about it.  I'm all for filling workplace gaps etc but it's too easy for foreign students to stay post graduation and getting jobs over us UK students who could do the job quite well - mighty frustrating.

Good luck mate, i know how hard it is, there`s a lot of people in for a mighty shock soon, I was talking to a Council employee yesterday who`s going to put his name forward for redundancy, he reckons he`ll have a few grand in the bank and get another job and be quids in, sounds great does n`t it? I told him it`s not like that in the real world, there`s no jobs about, and what jobs there are no one wants to pay a decent wage, they want you trained up to the hilt but are not prepared to pay for it!

[rtid88]

The scum that is the tories make the biggest budget cuts in decades, will completely screw up the entire North of Britain and yet the only protest going off in the country is one about sodding Wayne Rooney leaving Manchester United!! Messed up!!!

[MrFrost]

Interesting how Labour shy away every time they are asked what cuts they would have made.
Its happening. Nothing we can do but take it on the chin and manage the best we can.

[Filo]

MrFrost wrote:

Interesting how Labour shy away every time they are asked what cuts they would have made.
Its happening. Nothing we can do but take it on the chin and manage the best we can.

That was n`t your attitude when season ticket prices increased!  

[rtid88]

Why should we just sit back though!! I never thought i'd say it but I wish we would act a bit more like the French are doing! Rather then just been too sodding British and just taking it on the chin!

There are a big bunch of Southern toffs in London destroying this country for theirs and their rich mates benefit! This country will be a complete shambles in a few years when all of these plans are put into place. Unemployment will be at an all time high, crime will be at an all time high, poverty will be at an all time high!! I just despair how this can happen when a Government that was not even voted in by the people of this country can just tear it apart!!

[MrFrost]

rtid88 wrote:

Why should we just sit back though!! I never thought i'd say it but I wish we would act a bit more like the French are doing! Rather then just been too sodding British and just taking it on the chin!

There are a big bunch of Southern toffs in London destroying this country for theirs and their rich mates benefit! This country will be a complete shambles in a few years when all of these plans are put into place. Unemployment will be at an all time high, crime will be at an all time high, poverty will be at an all time high!! I just despair how this can happen when a Government that was not even voted in by the people of this country can just tear it apart!!

On the same token then, would it have been ok for Labour to stay in power, despite them not being voted in either?

I was actually expecting worse cuts than those announced.

[Filo]

MrFrost wrote:

Interesting how Labour shy away every time they are asked what cuts they would have made.

If you watched Alan Johnson the shadow chancellor`s response to Osbournes speech, he clearly states that measures have to be taken, it`s the speed at which these measure are being taken that he disputes, which could stop the fragile recovery that started when Labour were still in government. He also explained that contrary to the tory propoganda thea the gouvernment had to spend to prevent a collapse of the whole banking system, because if that had happened, not only would people have lost jobs but savings would have been lost and people thrown onto the poverty line!

[MrFrost]

I've just had a phone call from DMBC - to tell me that thanks to the Governemnt I do not have to pay any Business Rates until September next year.

[Dagenham Rover]

why? have they made the Business Rates department at the council redundant already  


Get it in writing Frosty it'll be a ploy so you have to pay more eventually

[MrFrost]

Small Business Rate relief has doubled from 50% to 100% for businesses with a rateable value of under £6000.

[Dagenham Rover]

Bet you get a call tomorrow from them asking you to expand your business  

Its ok just getting very cynical in my old age

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

AND amidst all the cuts, doom, gloom, unemployment, there is one person leaving the ranks of the unemployed in the next 2 weeks.  Ok it's not massive money, but as a graduate it's a good place to start really, experience and all that.  Certainly makes me a lot happier about life at the  moment.  Gonna miss daytime TV like

[Dagenham Rover]

Good on ya, well done

[LuckyGirl]

Congrats BFYP. Hope I may soon follow suit.

Gives you back your self respect.

Good luck for when you start too.

[BobG]

Aye. Good luck from me too BFYP! There's only one thing worse these days than having a job. That's not having one.

BobG

[Filo]

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

AND amidst all the cuts, doom, gloom, unemployment, there is one person leaving the ranks of the unemployed in the next 2 weeks.  Ok it's not massive money, but as a graduate it's a good place to start really, experience and all that.  Certainly makes me a lot happier about life at the  moment.  Gonna miss daytime TV like

Go on then, are you going to tell us what you`ll be doing?

[BillyStubbsTears]

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

AND amidst all the cuts, doom, gloom, unemployment, there is one person leaving the ranks of the unemployed in the next 2 weeks.  Ok it's not massive money, but as a graduate it's a good place to start really, experience and all that.  Certainly makes me a lot happier about life at the  moment.  Gonna miss daytime TV like

Congratulations cocker.

Welcome to the world of the permanently knackered professional. It's shit, but better than being on the rock n roll.

[CusworthRovers]

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

AND amidst all the cuts, doom, gloom, unemployment, there is one person leaving the ranks of the unemployed in the next 2 weeks.  Ok it's not massive money, but as a graduate it's a good place to start really, experience and all that.  Certainly makes me a lot happier about life at the  moment.  Gonna miss daytime TV like

Nice one. Stick us a few extra fries in mate as a fellow Rovers fan

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

CusworthRovers wrote:

big fat yorkshire pudding wrote:

AND amidst all the cuts, doom, gloom, unemployment, there is one person leaving the ranks of the unemployed in the next 2 weeks.  Ok it's not massive money, but as a graduate it's a good place to start really, experience and all that.  Certainly makes me a lot happier about life at the  moment.  Gonna miss daytime TV like

Nice one. Stick us a few extra fries in mate as a fellow Rovers fan

Haha I'm not that desperate.  I'll be working up in Leeds doing a lot of work on reducing costs within contracts etc, kind of stuff that should be quite useful for me really, but opens up opportunities and all which is quite important at my age.

[Barmby Rover]

Good news! It is always good to hear that somebody has finally been given a chance, make the most of it.