New Politics

[BillyStubbsTears]

Got to hand it to Clegg's mob. They make good on their promises.

In one of the Leaders' Debates, he said, with all the earnest sincerity of someone bidding to be voted Head Boy, \"A vote for us is a vote for a new way of doing politics.\"

fcuking bang on there Nick lad.

After videoing yourselves signing pledges to vote against increases in tuition fees, your own minister puts forward a plan to treble them, then says he will abstain in the vote.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-politics-11874406

If that int a new way of doing politics, then I'm a dullard with no attraction to women whatsoever.

[Filo]

It`s unbelievable is n`t it, you could n`t make it up! The Lib Dems are on a one way road to oblivion. The years of hard work their activists have put in, all thrown away for Cleggs 5 minutes of glory!

[donnyproletarian]

Got no sympathy with the students or anyone else who thought it was trendy to vote Liberal/SDP and were thick enough to believe there lies.Those few genuine liberals schooled in the thoughts of Mills must be turning in there graves.The SDP were formed to stop a socialst labour movement and nothing else.My only gripe with them is they didnt take Kilnock ,Brown ,Blair and the rest of their cronies with them.Rant over.Have a nice christmas those of you who can afford it.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

The only issue I'd have with it is them changing their minds.  Though I don't see why they aren't voting against it and saying it wasn't their policy, that's what they should've done.  Seeing as Labour came up with the review and the Tories are putting it through, surely Labour who initiated the review would've voted for it anyway?

I suppose in some ways you give them credit for saying circumstances have changed.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Remind me. How have circumstances changed since May?

[moses]

They have been elected that what's changed.

Cynical politics note

Ed Milliband please do not make much effort to defeat this policy, let the Lib Dems tie themselves in knots and watch the coalition collapse. Labour can over turn it when they get re-elected. Then Labour can do the cuts at slower rate blaming the Tories and Lib Dems.

[Barmby Rover]

The thing the labour party should be doing with this situation is recruiting the current crop of students and getting them to at least think about politics instead of reading rubbish on the internet and following the Daily Fascist. Will they? Of course not. The last thing that the Labour Party wants is a large membership of radical, intelligent people who might question their links with big business and their bowing down to milti-national groups that threaten our economy. I stopped voting the day Blair became leader, well before he became PM, and for the simple reason that I have no party I can vote FOR. There is no change occurring here at all.

[Wellington Vaults]

\"Their loyalty may have been more likely to have been assured had they been given a decent share of government posts in coalition, but only a very few have.”

Iain Watson, BBC Political Correspondent, on the Lib Dems voting intentions for Thursday's Bill on University tuition fees.

Bordering on FIFAesque.

[RedJ]

Agreed with most of this. New Labour hopefully is dead, Ed will hopefully let the \"New\" Lib Dems (reference to New Labour there) hang themselves and maybe put the Kitsonservatives out of business for years, and hopefully the coalition will come crashing down before doing too much damage, allowing Labour enough time to fix it to the best of their abilities.

This time, I hope the public give Labour (if/when they get back in, of course) enough time to clear up this shower of shit. Last time, we'd only just fixed Maggie's mess, then the recession hit. Gordon had no chance even though he pretty much saved us. Did the absolute best he could with a crap hand.

Glad I won't be shot to pieces on here for being a red in all aspects as I have been on other forums.

[Wellington Vaults]

Not going to shoot you to pieces, just surprised that anyone still has any enduring interest in, or passion for, any of today's political parties.  I used to have some cherished ideals but I'm so cynical about the egotistical, power-mad, if not plain corrupt goings-on that I don't expect that much of any of them.

Perhaps one day, some figure will emerge to blow away this apathy, but they aren't on the radar at the moment.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The latest gem has got to be Ken Clarke's reason for sending fewer people to prison being that crime has gone down over the last decade.

Where were Uncle Ken's crime stats when Oily Dave was waffling on about 'Broken Britain' before the election?

[RedJ]

Wellington Vaults wrote:

Not going to shoot you to pieces, just surprised that anyone still has any enduring interest in, or passion for, any of today's political parties.  I used to have some cherished ideals but I'm so cynical about the egotistical, power-mad, if not plain corrupt goings-on that I don't expect that much of any of them.

Perhaps one day, some figure will emerge to blow away this apathy, but they aren't on the radar at the moment.

Clegg is the best possible example of the first part.
 
Some day, a Blair-like figure (but less back-stabby) will arise, and finally put the right wing tossers out of business for good. The man himself once said the last weapon they have is despair.