Get the Champers on ice...

[RobTheRover]

...Twitter is alive with rumours Mrs Thatch is on her death bed!

Please, Lord, dont be pulling our puds with this one.

If rhis is true and the heinous cow pops it, Frank Turner MUST play \"Thatcher f**ked the kids\" when I see him on Monday.

[donnyjay]

That's the thing about reasons for a street party.

Nothing for ages then two come along all at once.

Will she also be buried at sea or will it just look like that because of all the piss on her grave?

[RobTheRover]

I feel even worse for Seve, now.  Fancy the greatest golfer ever having his untimely passing usurped by an evil old cow who should have shuffled off years ago.

[RedJ]

...Twitter is alive with rumours Mrs Thatch is on her death bed!

Please, Lord, dont be pulling our puds with this one.

If rhis is true and the heinous cow pops it, Frank Turner MUST play \"Thatcher f**ked the kids\" when I see him on Monday.

At the risk of looking mentally retarded...




:byebye :byebye :byebye :byebye

[donnyjay]

Seve is a great man. So much so, that i haven't even posted my funeral/get in the hole gag.  In fact he's my second favourite golfer. After this little fella.

[Barmby Rover]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BCUWopQQ4

:byebye

Ding dong the witch is dead!

[Townender]

And I`v only just taken the bunting down, but will gladly get it out for this one, can we have a Yorkshire bank holiday when she/it goes?

[Filo]

Rumour has it she`s going to get a state funeral! the ultimate piss take in the days of austerity, and I object to any penny I pay in taxes going towards her funeral! there`s plenty of old mine shafts she can be thrown down!

[RedJ]

Filo - at least we'll know the old bas**rd's dead!

[jucyberry]

I actually find it rather offensive that by getting a state funeral she will be elevated to the status given to two of our great national heroes, and two of my particular heroes at that.. Nelson and Wellington.. I see her body of work to be in retrospect totally unedifying (sp).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1384752/Margaret-Thatchers-friends-growing-increasingly-worried-frailty.html



I also have to say, reading that headline I have to ask.... Who in Yorkshire is increasingly worried................ Pause for deep silence..lol.

You would have liked my nan, she used to say don't mention that evil bitches name in this house..

[RTID75]

'Increasingly optimistic' would be more apt for many of us on here / in Yorkshire! :D

[coventryrover]

keep an eye on this website

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/

[RedJ]

Oh, it's changed since I last looked :-)

[donnyproletarian]

Never thought i would say this but here goes.I have more reason than anyone for hating thatcher as she has presided over the economic decimation of my community that has condemmed a whole future generation of youth to despair and left the vulnerable to pay the price .However , she has my respect for the following

She delivered the goods in that she did for her class what past labour goverments have consistently failed to do for ours

She was just a figurehead/puppetmastyer  of a system who would have produced someone else if she had not been around .Hence ,the clowns in goverment today.

Pretending her demise will make any difference is as deluded as thinking bin ladens passing will make any difference

What will make a difference is the nationalisation of the means of production, distribution and exchange under the democratic control of the people who  ultimately produce the wealth.

[BillyStubbsTears]

How apt it will be if the bitch does get a state funeral when she finally does the decent thing. Over the last 100 years, there have been only 4 state funerals for non-royals.

Winston Churchill - order troops to open fire on trade unionists

Edward Carson - founder of the Ulster Volunteer Force Protestant paramilitary organisation - threatened civil war in Ulster.

General Douglas Haig - the incompetent general who sent nearly a million Britons to their deaths on the Western Front in a series of ill-planned and ill-managed slaughter-fests

General Frederick Roberts - famous for f**king all over the coons the world over, from India to Afghanistan to South Africa in support of the British Empire and leaving a legacy of hatred for us as a country that exists to this day.


The old cow would be in fine company spending eternity resting with those reactionary t**ts.

[RedJ]

Where's the party in town when she finally cops it?

[RobTheRover]

Well, as OP of this thread, I feel utterly let down the hag hasnt met our requests and bought her condo in Hades.

Ah, well.  Something else to look forward to this week?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I wouldn't mind her getting a state funeral - but only if it was like Gandhi's.

All the Tories can have their bit, weeping at the roadside and chucking flowers at her cortege...

then the rest of us crack open the beer when we all get to see the evil f**ker go up in flames.

[NorthNorfolkRover]

Called Mandela a terrorist, got her crooked son off a prison sentence , sheltered mass murderer general pinochet and opposed un sanctions against apartheid south Africa.  Certainly put the great back into Britain. Not!

[Barmby Rover]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzNhLRAgEU

All correct!

[Viking Don]

Let the party begin!

Hey ho the wicked witch is dead!

Apologies to any of you young folk that missed her, where's the grave I can dance on?

Let's hope it's terminal.

[Mr1Croft]

Whether you like it or not, she is probably the greatest British Prime Minister, or at least the longest in office, (which does imply she was the most popular having won 3 elections (would have been 4 had it not been for the poll tax) unless you include the UK's first ever Prime Minister.

She was part of the Heath setup that crumbled because of the industrial strikes, the biggest U-turn in political history since the second world war with the Selsdon Manifesto. Even Wilson and Callaghan struggled to come to terms with the debt the country was facing. The 1979 Winter of Discontent sums it up in one, when according to Andrew Marr, the grave diggers of Liverpool striked.

She took Office with a manifesto that she (unlike Heath) was bound to govern by, this economic policy and this alone is what she beleived gave her the right to First Lord of the Treasury, and by god she stuck to it. Some describe her premiership as a piece of art, a Hurricane in human form, a second monarch. But in reality the truth is that luck and luck alone is what made her first term in office something she survived. The luck of the Falklands, the Oil findings off shore of Scotland. But as Unemployment hit an all time low she still refused to U-turn.

After the economic turn around, and the famous \"Right to Buy\" Policy she could finally avenge the Goverment she was part of that was torn apart; King Arthurs kingdom, and by god she did. Thatcher did embrace an economic policy that may have shaped a Britian heading for decline in future years, but her main motivation was to build a Britian that was hard saving. The problem was; everyone was spending, we were bieng sold a whole new lifestyle.

Of course; there were gaps, the poorest in our society did indeed get poorer while the richer got richer. But she changed Britian for the future, we were no longer \"The Dirty Man of Europe\"

So as you sit in your own home (that was probably owned by the Council and sold under \"Right to Buy\") bieng charged an income Tax around 20% or 40% (which Thatcher brought down) in the words of Andrew Marr: \"Whether you were born before or after Thatcher's Government, if you walk the streets of Great Britain today, we are without doubt speaking of the most transformative premierships the country has ever seen. Whether your childhood consisted of Blair, Major, Callaghan, Wilson, Heath, Douglas-home, Macmillan, Eden, Churchill or even Attlee. As of 1979, we are all Children of Thatcher.

She is a historic treasure to this country, I respect certain folk may not like her and will party the day news comes of her death, but I will not be one of those...

[BillyStubbsTears]

Whether you like it or not, she is probably the greatest British Prime Minister, or at least the longest in office, (which does imply she was the most popular having won 3 elections (would have been 4 had it not been for the poll tax) unless you include the UK's first ever Prime Minister.

She was part of the Heath setup that crumbled because of the industrial strikes, the biggest U-turn in political history since the second world war with the Selsdon Manifesto. Even Wilson and Callaghan struggled to come to terms with the debt the country was facing. The 1979 Winter of Discontent sums it up in one, when according to Andrew Marr, the grave diggers of Liverpool striked.

She took Office with a manifesto that she (unlike Heath) was bound to govern by, this economic policy and this alone is what she beleived gave her the right to First Lord of the Treasury, and by god she stuck to it. Some describe her premiership as a piece of art, a Hurricane in human form, a second monarch. But in reality the truth is that luck and luck alone is what made her first term in office something she survived. The luck of the Falklands, the Oil findings off shore of Scotland. But as Unemployment hit an all time low she still refused to U-turn.

After the economic turn around, and the famous \"Right to Buy\" Policy she could finally avenge the Goverment she was part of that was torn apart; King Arthurs kingdom, and by god she did. Thatcher did embrace an economic policy that may have shaped a Britian heading for decline in future years, but her main motivation was to build a Britian that was hard saving. The problem was; everyone was spending, we were bieng sold a whole new lifestyle.

Of course; there were gaps, the poorest in our society did indeed get poorer while the richer got richer. But she changed Britian for the future, we were no longer \"The Dirty Man of Europe\"

So as you sit in your own home (that was probably owned by the Council and sold under \"Right to Buy\") bieng charged an income Tax around 20% or 40% (which Thatcher brought down) in the words of Andrew Marr: \"Whether you were born before or after Thatcher's Government, if you walk the streets of Great Britain today, we are without doubt speaking of the most transformative premierships the country has ever seen. Whether your childhood consisted of Blair, Major, Callaghan, Wilson, Heath, Douglas-home, Macmillan, Eden, Churchill or even Attlee. As of 1979, we are all Children of Thatcher.

She is a historic treasure to this country, I respect certain folk may not like her and will party the day news comes of her death, but I will not be one of those...

Aye, alright. I know we all have different opinions. But there are some issues in what you have written that reight get my goat. Issues that have gone down as accepted received-wisdom, but which are factually b*llocks.

1) Thatcher was popular. b*llocks. Thatcher never got more than 43.9% of the vote in any General Election. That was in 1979. Compare that to, say 1970, when Wilson got 43.1% of the vote and lost comfortably.

In 1983 - Thatcher's high-water point in terms of her megalomaniac power, she got 42.4% of the vote. She won a majority of 144 in the House and could do what the f**k she wanted thereafter. Comapre that to 1966 when Ted Heath won 41.9% of the vote and lost the Election by a country mile.

The votes that Thatcher won in 79, 83 and 87 would have resulted in massive defeats in the 1960s.

Conclusion? Thatcher's luck was to be around at the time that the vagaries of the UK electoral system were starting to throw up obsecenely undemocratic results. Consistently, in Election-after-Election, a big majority voted against her. But it was split - predominantly between Labour and the Lib/SDP Alliance. In simple terms, the fact that Labour tore itself apart and split in the early 80s was what gave Thatcher her power. Wilson had been a master at keeping the different parts of the party together and keeping a solid, united anti-Tory vote. But the power struggles between the likes of Tony Benn and David Owen that tore the party apart once Wilson was knacked destroyed that unity and let that bitch in by default. Those two in particular deserve to be buggered by the Three-Headed Hound of Hell for all eternity.

2) Thatcher sorted out the economy. b*llocks. Go and look at the figures. Her time in power had three phases.

1) An obsecenely devastating recession (deliberately deepened by her policies) that destroyed big manufacturing in this country. (80-84)

2) A tax-cut and property speculation fuelled boom that got totally out of control. (85-87)

3) A second collapse, with inflation and interest rates going through the roof as a result of (2). (88-90).

Her time in power was a roller-coaster of far-right economic experimentation that left deep and damaging problems for the country, and for our area in particular. We had previously un-imagined levels of deprivation and unemployment throughtout her reign as a result. The mess culminated in her economic legacy finally being destroyed in 1992, with us being booted out of the ERM. After that, a sensible Tory chancellor, Ken Clarke, employed the old-school methods to settle down the economy and give us a start on an era of stability and growth. That f**king cow didn't do it. It was only when she left that the Tories returned to their senses and changed their policies.

3) Thatcher would have won a fourth election if she'd not been stabbed in the back. b*llocks. Go and look at the figures. She was 15-20% behind Labour in the polls when she was booted out. We were tipping into a devastating recession. She had only 18 months to turn things round before the Election. Barring another escapade to sacrifice 1000 lives for a couple of Antarctic rocks, she had not a chance in a million of winning in 92. When she was kicked out, the Tory poll figures went up 10-12% overnight. THAT is how hated she was by then. Even then, Major only won a wafer-thin victory in 92. Thatcher would have been annihilated.

[Glyn_Wigley]

After the economic turn around

Aye, I remember the economic 'turn around' under Thatcher. Unemployment at least trebled (if not quadrupled), and inflation higher when she left office than it was when she entered it, eleven years later. What an achievement, I can't understand why she isn't worshipped as a living God.

[Glyn_Wigley]

She is a historic treasure to this country

Only insomuch as she should be buried.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Whether you like it or not, she is probably the greatest British Prime Minister, or at least the longest in office...unless you include the UK's first ever Prime Minister.

Aye, the Prime Ministerships of Pitt the Younger, Lord Liverpool, Salisbury, Gladstone and Lord North just didn't happen, did they? Not a great start to a paeon of praise to Thatcher when your first 'fact' is wrong, is it?

[Mr1Croft]

Whether you like it or not, she is probably the greatest British Prime Minister, or at least the longest in office...unless you include the UK's first ever Prime Minister.

Aye, the Prime Ministerships of Pitt the Younger, Lord Liverpool, Salisbury, Gladstone and Lord North just didn't happen, did they? Not a great start to a paeon of praise to Thatcher when your first 'fact' is wrong, is it?

No Salisbury never lasted Thatcher's 11 years by my reckoning, (please correct me if im wrong), Gladstone served 3 seperated terms.

Pitt the younger only served 2 years as the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, from 1804-06, his 19 years before 1801 he was Prime minister of Great Britian (as was Lord North). To which we consider that post never really existed since the position \"prime minister of the UK\" was originally to differ from \"First Lord to the Treasury\" something that never happened...

We normally conisder Robert Jenkinson the first Prime Minister of the United Kindgom from 1812, despite them being about 5 before him, possibly because he lasted those 15 years without bieng the Chancellor of the Exquecor himself.

[Mr1Croft]

After the economic turn around

Aye, I remember the economic 'turn around' under Thatcher. Unemployment at least trebled (if not quadrupled), and inflation higher when she left office than it was when she entered it, eleven years later. What an achievement, I can't understand why she isn't worshipped as a living God.

Figure 10 on Page 32 of this published article (http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp0600.pdf) tells a different story...

One may find it more insulting when in a later post you are quick to talk about fact...

[BillyStubbsTears]

After the economic turn around

Aye, I remember the economic 'turn around' under Thatcher. Unemployment at least trebled (if not quadrupled), and inflation higher when she left office than it was when she entered it, eleven years later. What an achievement, I can't understand why she isn't worshipped as a living God.

Figure 10 on Page 32 of this published article (http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp0600.pdf) tells a different story...

One may find it more insulting when in a later post you are quick to talk about fact...

4/10 for effort and research.

Unfortunately, Croft Jnr, you have quoted the Unemployment Replacement ratio graph which is a measure of the time that folk stay out of work once unemployed. For the actual unemployment rates, look at Fig 3 on Page 25. That tells a rather different story. in fact it tells the one that any Kitson who was an adult round these parts under that f**king bitch would be familiar with.

Anyway, once you've luxuriated in the data of what Thatcher did to this country, you might then want to go and do some research to find out what the unemployment rates were like in the 20 years BEFORE and AFTER Thatcher. That might be eye-opening data for you.

EDIT:

By the way, that report is so badly put together that, as a scientific analyst misen, I despair. If one of my staff produced something as badly put together as that, I'd kick his genitalia so far up inside him that he could masturbate whilst brushing his teeth. Come to think of it, yon report looks like the writer has been w**king off and brushing his teeth whilst typing it.