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I for one hope it doesn't catch on
Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?
This is fantastic news. I suspect though there are far too many vested interests in the FA / PL nexus and tabloid hysteria which wil torpedo this south of the border, but we can live in hope!
Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205648Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?I believe it to be a retrograde step
Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205657Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205648Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?I believe it to be a retrograde stepTwo points then Gloster.1) We shouldn't let people have the choice?and2) We shouldn't let people carry on doing what they are doing at every game?I suppose I should just ask why it would be a retrograde step?
Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205677Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205657Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205648Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?I believe it to be a retrograde stepTwo points then Gloster.1) We shouldn't let people have the choice?and2) We shouldn't let people carry on doing what they are doing at every game?I suppose I should just ask why it would be a retrograde step?Doesn't really matter as the SFA are not bound by the Turner report and therefore it will not be happening in Enlgand anytime soon.I am all for people to have their choice - but for me it is a step backwards to the days of Belle Vue, I actually like the KMS for being all seater, I would not want to go back to those days.As for making people sit - we should be and not just the Rovers all all seater stadiums should be doing the same, clubs have been warned in the past for their fans standing, it is time that firm action was taken to stamp it out.
Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205712Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205677Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205657Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205648Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?I believe it to be a retrograde stepTwo points then Gloster.1) We shouldn't let people have the choice?and2) We shouldn't let people carry on doing what they are doing at every game?I suppose I should just ask why it would be a retrograde step?Doesn't really matter as the SFA are not bound by the Turner report and therefore it will not be happening in Enlgand anytime soon.I am all for people to have their choice - but for me it is a step backwards to the days of Belle Vue, I actually like the KMS for being all seater, I would not want to go back to those days.As for making people sit - we should be and not just the Rovers all all seater stadiums should be doing the same, clubs have been warned in the past for their fans standing, it is time that firm action was taken to stamp it out.Well, firstly it's the Taylor report, not Turner.And what firm action are you recommending?But you still haven't explained why its a retrograde step, all you've done is expand on your opinion. Which is fine by the way, I'm quite happy to give you the choice to sit if you wish, however we should have the choice.
I reckon most people now don't want to stand for 2 hours to watch the footy. I would imagine that a 1,000 \"Safe standing\" area at the KM wouldn't be full.
Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205717Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205712Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205677Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205657Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205648Quote from: \"glosterred\" post=205646I for one hope it doesn't catch onWhy?I believe it to be a retrograde stepTwo points then Gloster.1) We shouldn't let people have the choice?and2) We shouldn't let people carry on doing what they are doing at every game?I suppose I should just ask why it would be a retrograde step?Doesn't really matter as the SFA are not bound by the Turner report and therefore it will not be happening in Enlgand anytime soon.I am all for people to have their choice - but for me it is a step backwards to the days of Belle Vue, I actually like the KMS for being all seater, I would not want to go back to those days.As for making people sit - we should be and not just the Rovers all all seater stadiums should be doing the same, clubs have been warned in the past for their fans standing, it is time that firm action was taken to stamp it out.Well, firstly it's the Taylor report, not Turner.And what firm action are you recommending?But you still haven't explained why its a retrograde step, all you've done is expand on your opinion. Which is fine by the way, I'm quite happy to give you the choice to sit if you wish, however we should have the choice.The firm action is to ban fans, close away ends if it is the away fans standing or ban that club from having tickets fro away games. Also if it is the home fans, close the ground and play games behind closed doors - firm I think you will agree, and that goes for the Rovers as well as any teamIt would be a retrograde step because we have moved on from standing stadiums, it was an advance for the fans to be treated to better facilities of having seats to sit on in all the ground not just part of the ground. To go back to standing stadiums or parts would in my opinion be a retrograde step.
Good work Martin, another big step towards getting a better atmosphere in stadiums.Have Rovers ever gave their opinion on what they would do if it were approved in England?
I thought the Hillsborough disaster was found to have been a mismanaged police force allowing too many people to stand in an area, not to do with the stadium? I mean, if an area is fenced in and has a maximum capacity of 1000, then if you let 1000 people in it there won't be any problems surely?!Personally I don't mind if there is a standing area for people who want to do so, but I would be amazed if a section of terrace which once catered for say 1500 seats is allowed to cater safely for more standing. And if you think the clubs are going to cut the price of tickets for these things I would suggest you think again. Seating is safer, more comfortable, and mine even has a little padding. I don't begrudge anyone wanting to stand but the rules are clear are they not - no standing or thou shall be ejected? Enforce them properly I say. I would also argue that perhaps incidents like that woman being punched in the face (allegedly) on Saturday would possibly not have happened if the people concerned were sitting down and did not feel free to move about the terrace at will.Plus, how long before some tool jumps off something and hurts themselves?
Quote from: \"Al Riggall\" post=205787Good work Martin, another big step towards getting a better atmosphere in stadiums.Have Rovers ever gave their opinion on what they would do if it were approved in England?Hi Al,We're all grinning from ear to ear at the moment as it does add more weight to the momentum that the SS campaign has been gathering all year. We were expecting it though because our Safe Standing roadshow has spent some time in Scotland and was exceptionally well received by certain clubs. Furthermore there was a big incident of fan expulsion at Aberdeen because of standing in recent weeks which just added more impetus.To get back to your question though. We haven't actually discussed this in detail although standing will be part of an initiative that we hope to have running early in the New Year. Well, what I mean is it will hopefully be up for discussion. I'm sure JR is an advocate of standing, after all he did quite a lot of it at Belle Vue!!Contrary to popular belief there is already a lot of 'official' standing areas in PL and Championship grounds. Its all done by consensus of course and means the Safety Officer has to agree to ignore the ground regulations for certain areas.
This has been coming for a while, but now officially allowed after a recent SPL meeting. The thin end of the wedge!http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16248937.stmhttp://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/289114-safe-standing-plan-approved-by-spl/
Quote from: \"silent_majority\" post=205643This has been coming for a while, but now officially allowed after a recent SPL meeting. The thin end of the wedge!http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16248937.stmhttp://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/289114-safe-standing-plan-approved-by-spl/Congratulations SM. I've been the arch-sceptic on this, and I'll still be astonished if the Govt don't find a way to veto it, but the very, very best of luck.
Quote from: \"benaldo\" post=205790I thought the Hillsborough disaster was found to have been a mismanaged police force allowing too many people to stand in an area, not to do with the stadium? I mean, if an area is fenced in and has a maximum capacity of 1000, then if you let 1000 people in it there won't be any problems surely?!Personally I don't mind if there is a standing area for people who want to do so, but I would be amazed if a section of terrace which once catered for say 1500 seats is allowed to cater safely for more standing. And if you think the clubs are going to cut the price of tickets for these things I would suggest you think again. Seating is safer, more comfortable, and mine even has a little padding. I don't begrudge anyone wanting to stand but the rules are clear are they not - no standing or thou shall be ejected? Enforce them properly I say. I would also argue that perhaps incidents like that woman being punched in the face (allegedly) on Saturday would possibly not have happened if the people concerned were sitting down and did not feel free to move about the terrace at will.Plus, how long before some tool jumps off something and hurts themselves?Either you're trying to get a reaction (again), or you really are the world's biggest idiot. Anyone who stands up at a football match should be ejected? Get down off you padded-seat high horse. Thing is Benaldo, we all know your views about safe standing. They're well documented. A bit like your joke about Steve Brooker that you like to tell in every thread. So why not clean this thread up for those who are interested about this.