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We do keep hearing that £32M was paid out by the tax payer, when that is not true, did n`t Rovers get a grant towards the building costs of the stadium from some football related organization?And on another point, the various reports we keep reading harp on about the council subsidising a private business, well that argument would have some substance if Rovers were the sole users of the Stadium, but as we all know, the Dons, the Athletic Club, the Belles and the general public all use the Stadiums facilities, you know, anyone would think that it`s facilities were being used by the community of Doncaster would n`t they, rather than just Rovers like a lot of councillors and media are trying to portray. Maybe the Council should look at themselves and ask the question why the team they put in place (SMC) failed to realise the whole facilities potential and why those facilities are under used, maybe the people that ran the SMC thought they had a job for life working for the council and thus were in the comfort zone and did n`t have to try too hard!
You could ask what do Doncaster Rovers/Belles/Egg Chasers provide the town as Whole? How many away fans come to Sunny Donny for a weekend? How many supporters eat in Donny restaurants, drink in Donny Pubs? Shop in Donny Town Centre? All this money helps keep people in jobs, helps businesses. I would say the Sporting Clubs of Doncaster really do help the community as a whole.
A few points.Firstly Filo is right, the Football Foundation did make a considerable donation. I think a figure close to £2m was obtained from them.The councillors are speaking on behalf of the ratepayers and their concerns are that the ratepayers would be subsidising a private company, which is not only unfair but illegal. They realise the original deal was not a good one and they just want to make sure the next deal is done fairly. They certainly didn't object to the principle of the Rovers getting their hands on the Keepmoat. The Free Press are the only ones mentioning £32m, and they are giving unfair bias to some of the negative comments made, when in fairness the meeting wasn't like that.Furthermore it was the original business plan that caught more of the flack, and deservedly so. The SMC were handed a budget that would never have worked, for them or anybody else. The council actually employed a private consultancy to put the budget together and the council couldn't foresee how inaccurate this would be.Finally, the council have much bigger problem areas than this one, although this one does attract the obvious headlines.
It use to hold 25,000 and had a record of 45000 ,iT should NOT hve been allowed to get into the state it did it was there home for over a 100 years and no money spent to keep it up to date. But as i said prior, If were in the Premier League there would not now be a problem.
Key point here is WHO would have paid to rebuild Belle Vue.The limited Football Foundation money Rovers received for the KMS (£2million) would not have been available for Belle Vue I suspect. Clearly DMBC would not have financed reconstruction at Belle Vue (the KMS funding was for a community asset which was to be largely financed by.....selling off the Belle Vue site). Equally where would Rovers have found £5, 10 or 15 million to finance a wholesale reconstruction of Belle Vue into an ALL SEATER stadium which is unfortunately the reality of being in the Championship (as much as we probably all prefer to stand).Also, the chances of getting a decent sized stand built at Belle Vue would be limited due to planning/access restrictions at the site.
Just been talking to a friend whose son is at a football academy based at the keepmoat, called 'Esprit academy' apparently 25k a year to attend, a money generating stream that no body has mentioned?
Why would someone aged 16-24 want to spend over £18000 for a year of football coaching? Surely if they were any good they would already be attached to a professional club?
Quote from: \"Sheepskin Stu\" post=231639Why would someone aged 16-24 want to spend over £18000 for a year of football coaching? Surely if they were any good they would already be attached to a professional club?Yeah, but at least this way they get up to match fitness and put themselves into a \"shop window\"
At the heart of the complex is the spectacular Keepmoat Stadium, a 15,000 capacity all-seater arena, which is the venue for our end-of-season gala game and certain key fixtures, throughout the season.http://www.esprit-fa.com/facilities/our-facilitiesNo wonder we are not allowed to train
Quote from: \"Dagenham.Rover\" post=231637At the heart of the complex is the spectacular Keepmoat Stadium, a 15,000 capacity all-seater arena, which is the venue for our end-of-season gala game and certain key fixtures, throughout the season.http://www.esprit-fa.com/facilities/our-facilitiesNo wonder we are not allowed to trainWe are not allowed to train on the Keepmoat pitch because the club only have use of the ground for 25 days per year (plus cup matches). There are 23 home games per year, plus a couple of friendlies normally. It's the club who agreed to those conditions, so they only have themselves to blame when the SMC deny permission for training at the stadium.
Quote from: \"WBDRFC\" post=231670Quote from: \"Dagenham.Rover\" post=231637At the heart of the complex is the spectacular Keepmoat Stadium, a 15,000 capacity all-seater arena, which is the venue for our end-of-season gala game and certain key fixtures, throughout the season.http://www.esprit-fa.com/facilities/our-facilitiesNo wonder we are not allowed to trainWe are not allowed to train on the Keepmoat pitch because the club only have use of the ground for 25 days per year (plus cup matches). There are 23 home games per year, plus a couple of friendlies normally. It's the club who agreed to those conditions, so they only have themselves to blame when the SMC deny permission for training at the stadium.If we're paying £250,000 a year in rent, at £10,000 per day is there little wonder the club has to restrict the number of days it requests use of the stadium?!