Skint on C4 - life in Scunthorpe.

[RobTheRover]

Oh

My

God

Doss hole central.

The entire "cast" must be inside for handling stolen goods by now.

[Savvy]

Totally chavalistic!!!!!!!   

[jucyberry]

Don't know how true it is, but I've just seen that they were paid to look even grimmer than they might actually be.

Lovely propaganda vehicle against a certain section wasn't it. Daily Hail readers up and down the country will be working themselves into an I knew it, I bloody knew it frenzy

[Filo]

Don't know how true it is, but I've just seen that they were paid to look even grimmer than they might actually be.

Lovely propaganda vehicle against a certain section wasn't it. Daily Hail readers up and down the country will be working themselves into an I knew it, I bloody knew it frenzy

Beat me to it Jucy, I was going to say was the programme financed by the Daily Mail

[jucyberry]

Well I suppose on the other hand it makes a complete joke of IDS's lie that being on benefits is a life of luxury doesn't it.

The reality is people like Stephanie Bottrill, who just cannot afford to live.

[MrFrost]

Has to be a conspiracy to everything, doesn't there?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I think we should look closer to home, I got followed down the street  by 3 girls in their early 20s today - tbf that's not that surprising but they were bugging me for money and being quite ridiculous and foreful about it.  Complete scrubbers they were I couldn't quite believe it.  Note to self, when walking back to the car from the train station walk in front of Tesco not behind it....

[Keith Myath]

Sadly my son, went to a nursery in that estate upto the end of last year, that was untill i went to the Christmas show and i met the other kids parents, i say parents, it was more like an Heroin Anonymous meeting where teeth appear to be a luxury.

Saying that he's now in a "well to do" nursery where in the first few weeks learned the words "F**K OFF!"

Swings and Roundabouts.... 

[Sammy Chung was King]

It's true there are people like this probably 2 % of people who are unemployed,it's the governments latest divide & Rule Effort,what they are trying to plant in the mind of every working person,is this is how they live on your taxes,they don't mention the unemployed people who are genuinely ill,who are really struggling with life in general and are already devoid of any confidence,those who believe the normal people who are unemployed,are living a life of luxury are living in cuckoo land,this government is trying to make neighbours hate each other,be envious of others,and also not be able to say what you think,your opinion in other words,if they don't agree with it,it's racist,i sincerely hope people don't take this latest political hatred bomb they've planted serious,just stand back and make your own mind up,it's brainwashing,surely people will see through what this government stands for and won't elect them next time.

Making old people feel guilty for taking out what they put in,in the first place,abandoning the sick and disabled,taxing the working man to the hilt for doing slightly well in life,and not doing the same to the numerous greedy banking officials,who the government bailed out,and now they won't lend out of massive cash reserves to the man or woman who wants to expand their small business,same public schoolboys,coming out with the same old tired rubbish,and looking after each other,because they've known each other since school,the same one's get the opportunities and rest have to squabble over what's left,i feel better now,that would have cost a fortune with a professional head doctor!!

[jucyberry]

I had to go to see my advisor today, he get's more dispirited every time I go up there. he said the experiences of people going through ATOS seem to be getting worse, he has no faith in the government what so ever, bless him then he would mutter, but of course I have to be impartial. lol.

This government loves cuts, it loves making people suffer and it seems to get off on making the poor ever poorer.

Because of a cut in funding to local government has a knock on effect, Mind has had to cut back on it's support workers. Mine has just been made redundant along with her co worker, so now one person is left to care for three peoples case load.

Things are going to get ever worse and the support system will no longer be able to cope.

I'm not daft, I know there are plenty of estates all over the country as run down as the one thy showed in Scunny, but it needs a balance, it's one thing to film the very extreme, it is after all more entertaining for the viewer, but they also need to see that not every person on the dole, or on the sick lives the almost feral life so beloved by the mail as an example of why those with least are only fit to be despised.

 we live in depressing  times.

[moses]

Even Labour supporters are succumbing to the divide and rule tactics.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-voters-shift-their-views-on-welfare-claimants--to-the-right-8614796.html

[BobG]

The only thing that keeps me going is the thought that nothing lasts forever. Most things are cyclical. I hope to live long enough to see the concept of welfare, of fairness, of equality of opportunity, of half way decent roads, of not paying for car park space in effing hospitals, of an integrated tax and benefit system, of any transport policy at all, come back into favour.

Failing them, I'm going to wait until I'm on my last legs then I'm going to commence a policy of targeted assassination...

BobG

[LincsRover]

Unfortunately BobG you can't get them all, and they would be replaced with more of the same! As my dad always taught me; whatever the party, politicians all p*ss in the same pot!

 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Lincs

Have a read of The Road to Wigan Pier. See what conditions politicians were prepared to let people live in within living memory of our grandparents. Then ask yourself why that changed.

It was because the attitude of people in the country changed so that we demanded politicians who would address those issues.

It is simply incorrect to say that politicians all poss in the same pot. Politicians like Clem Attlee and Nye Bevan changed society to make us a more equal nation, with bestial conditions like the 30s being unacceptable. That didn't happen by accident. It happened because people demanded that their politicians changed it. We get the politicians we deserve, and if we have allowed a society to emerge over the last 30 years where the rewards of growth are disproportionately given to the very rich (which we have) then WE are to blame for that.

[jucyberry]

Greed, that is what it comes down to...

Greed at the top from those in power busy feathering the nests of their cronies and themselves..

Greed of the chattering classes eyeing up the Jones's always competing.

And perhaps worst of all greed of the working classes, bitterly resentful of the crumbs that fall on the floor. Terrified that those living at the bottom might just get a bigger crumb than they as the new sub humans deserve.

The me culture of the selfish greedy eighties has matured into something black and ugly and we are all the poorer for it.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Debs

30 years ago, we used to have a society where, to a much greater degree, we WERE all in it together. We, collectively believed in the importance of society, we believed that society had a role to play in protecting people from dropping through the safety net and we believed that the richest should be reined in and taxed in order to more fairly distribute the wealth among the population.

Over the last 30 years, our society has been transformed into a fragmented, individualistic, acquisitive, envious one. We have disparities of income that are utterly obscene. (The last time we had differences of income between the top 1% of earners and the bottom 10% as big as it is today was in 1929 - just before the Great Depression.) We have depressed the wages of ordinary hard working folk, and the result of that is that they are increasingly despising those who are slipping through the cracks and need the support of welfare. We have a bunch of callous scum in the media who highlight the tiny proportion of tossers who  abuse benefits and use this to develop an attitude that allows the Govt to reduce benefits for those who really DO deserve them.

We've allowed his society to develop. We were told that we had to let the highest earners off the leash, because they would drive the economy forward to all our benefit. We were told that we would lose our most talented people to overseas if we didn't allow themselves to make themselves fabulously rich and pay low taxes.

It was lying bullshit. Our economic performance over the last 35 years is actually worse than it was over the previous 35 years. We allowed the rich off the leash and it did NOTHING to improve our contry's performance. But it did plenty for them in improving their own income. And the talented people that we were able to attract and keep? Who were they? Fred Goodwin? Bob Diamond? Russian gangster billionaires?

f***ing brill, eh?

We've allowed a culture to develop where we glorify the pursuit of unlimited wealth, whether among shit pop singers, moderate footballers, post-communist criminals or financial charlatans. And while they have been going into the financial stratosphere, the wages of ordinary people have stagnated for a generation. And these people are then subtly directed to hate those on benefits. When they should be hating the entire f***ing cancer that we have allowed to devour the old society that we used to have.

[Keith Myath]

We are all just part of the Capatalist system, can't be escaped, can't be brought to its knees without a revolution. Everything in this world tangiable and theoretical is owned, sold and traded in the financial houses to the point that the collective debt of this world outweighs every pound, shilling and pence that exists.

Its gone too far, a revolution is coming and im going to be the one...... knocking out 'viva revolution' t-shirts at 2 for a fiver out the back of my MOT failed Berlingo van at Stainy Carboot. All the while the 0.00000000001% who own 99.999999999% of the worlds wealth finally realise that Milton Friedman might have got it wrong, well atleast a little bit.

In the mean time lets all move to Norway, they seem to have thought things through 35 years ago, in a bold move they decided to take into account something called the future.

[MrFrost]

I think the family last night summed up why people have the stigma with those loving on benefits.
While they are only claiming what they are entitled to, how they were completely irresponsible with their money is what will wind most people up.
Can't afford to feed their kids however on the wall sits a 60 inch TV, numerous games consoles, iPhones etc, etc.
Priorities.

[IC1967]

I felt sorry for nearly all the people in the programme. They are for the most part the results of very bad parenting. Michael Gove needs to get 'parenting' taught at school and 'enterprise' to end the benefit dependency culture. Unless this is done, unfortunately the Jeremy Kyle show will continue to have an endless supply of applicants.

[RobTheRover]

We are all just part of the Capatalist system, can't be escaped, can't be brought to its knees without a revolution. Everything in this world tangiable and theoretical is owned, sold and traded in the financial houses to the point that the collective debt of this world outweighs every pound, shilling and pence that exists.

Its gone too far, a revolution is coming and im going to be the one...... knocking out 'viva revolution' t-shirts at 2 for a fiver out the back of my MOT failed Berlingo van at Stainy Carboot. All the while the 0.00000000001% who own 99.999999999% of the worlds wealth finally realise that Milton Friedman might have got it wrong, well atleast a little bit.

In the mean time lets all move to Norway, they seem to have thought things through 35 years ago, in a bold move they decided to take into account something called the future.

Spot on, apart from the Norway bit.  They might have actually insulated themselves from all the rest of the world's financial ills in a very measured way, but you wont get the average Doncastrian paying £8 a pint!  Its all about priorities, you see. 

[jucyberry]

I just wanted to scoop up that little girl in the shared home and bring her home and look after her. She was so vulnerable, she reminded me of a scared abandoned kitten, trying hard to be fierce. The clue that it was just a front born of necessity was that she kept describing herself as a child..

[copps123]

The programme is wrongly named.  SO because you are "skint" you have to sell your body....oh no....thats to feed the crack/smack addiction....same for the shoplifting....tis so they can score. Because your "skint" you have to talk to your children in a discraceful manner...no...thats because they have no respect or morals....if your gonna treat your kids like that, speak to them like that....then you should be frickin steralised. Just because people have no money, doesnt mean thats how u have to act or the way you have to live.
The majority of the people in the programme...sorry to say...are the scum of the earth...no respect for anyone. Chav society.
I also felt sorry for the girl last week...how anyone thought making her share a house with that crack addict would be a good idea i will never know!! She needed mothering...guiding.
But then there's the point made, that they say they have no money...but look at the size of that guys beer gut!!!! he must drink at least a 12 pack of stella a day! And his "i should sew myself up" missis, is never without a fag hanging out of her gob. Nails perfectly done, massive plasma, top of the range phone.
Most of these people, .... simply put......are just plain, horrible! 

[ditch_drfc]

Sorry but what government in modern day Britain loves to see their people suffer and loves to make them poor? Some bullshit comes out of people on here...