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I'm not saying they do. I'm saying they could.
If they could, they would, wouldn't they?Anywho, the reality in this country is that a lot of people can't afford to eath healthier.
Quote from: IC1967 on February 06, 2014, 12:54:37 pmQuoteDo you own any leather products at all?Yes I do unfortunately. In our society it is impossible to live without having to use products that are in some way associated with animal cruelty.I disagree, if you are willing to put the effort in you can live a happy life safe in the knowledge that the things you eat/wear etc are not associated with animal cruelty. A good friend of mine is a very strict vegan and disassociates with anything to do with animal cruelty - as you said above in the post about a healthy diet, it is possible, albeit it with effort.I also know a few fat vegetarians...
QuoteDo you own any leather products at all?Yes I do unfortunately. In our society it is impossible to live without having to use products that are in some way associated with animal cruelty.
Do you own any leather products at all?
No meat, no fish?! I would go insane!
Ask yourself the question. How many fat vegetarians have you ever seen? Not many.If you look at the league tables of fatness you will see Brighton near the very bottom of the table. Brighton is the vegetarian capital of the country. I rest my case.
Top bloke Morrisey. True legend. He summed it up very nicely with his 'Meat is Murder' song.Heifer whines could be human criesCloser comes the screaming knifeThis beautiful creature must dieThis beautiful creature must dieA death for no reasonAnd death for no reason is MURDERAnd the flesh you so fancifully fryIs not succulent, tasty or kindIt's death for no reasonAnd death for no reason is MURDERAnd the calf that you carve with a smileIs MURDERAnd the turkey you festively sliceIs MURDERDo you know how animals die ?Kitchen aromas aren't very homelyIt's not "comforting", cheery or kindIt's sizzling blood and the unholy stenchOf MURDERIt's not "natural", "normal" or kindThe flesh you so fancifully fryThe meat in your mouthAs you savour the flavourOf MURDERNO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDERNO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDEROh ... and who hears when animals cry ?
He's just pointing out how cruel eating meat is. He is one of the finest men ever to have been born in this country.
I notice Hull City do a Fit Fans program.http://www.fitfans.co.uk/Perhaps Rovers could look at something like this, with us having the facilities and the club Doncaster thing an' all.I quite like the idea of involving players and coaching staff to give advice and help.
Quote from: IC1967 on February 20, 2014, 10:52:45 pmHe's just pointing out how cruel eating meat is. He is one of the finest men ever to have been born in this country. Really? Seriously? Everything is a part of the food chain; cruelty doesn't even come into it.
Quote from: Orlandokarla on February 21, 2014, 02:37:56 amQuote from: IC1967 on February 20, 2014, 10:52:45 pmHe's just pointing out how cruel eating meat is. He is one of the finest men ever to have been born in this country. Really? Seriously? Everything is a part of the food chain; cruelty doesn't even come into it.I suspect cruelty does come in to it, and that's why we have laws to protect the welfare of animals, even if their ultimate destination is the slaughterhouse.
You obviously don't read your own posts then
That last post is the biggest load of b*llocks I have ever read. Trust me I know what I'm talking about. I've read no end of MadMick50 posts but that last post beggars belief.
Orlando, you are making yourself look very silly. If you can't see that eating animals involves cruelty then I don't know what to say to you. You obviously haven't bothered to read the link I posted earlier to see how milk is produced. You sound like you don't even want to confront the issue of cruelty in food production because you are scared that what you will find will be a total contradiction of your naively held views.I'd have much more respect for your views if you knew what you were on about. It is patently obvious from your statements you know nothing of food production.