Clegg v Farage debate

[Filo]

A nice contest tonight on BBC news Channel at. 19.00 hrs over Europe, I expect Clegg to get a good seeing to by Farage

[RedJ]

Aye, he's effectively up against Mick.

[Dagenham Rover]

Its also being broadcast on LBC   dab radio

[BillyStubbsTears]

Interesting premise for the "debate". Neither participant is trying to win supporters from the other one. Farage is talking to right wing Tories, or disenfranchised working class Labour supporters. Clegg is talking to the flabby middle class liberal centre-lefties who voted for him in 2010 then left in their droves when they realised in horror what they had done.

[IC1967]

Farage will wipe the floor with him. After this debate, Clegg will be totally finished (if he isn't already).

Those of you that think leaving the EU would be a disaster just need to remember that the likes of Clegg wanted us to join the Euro. He predicted doom and gloom if we didn't . Much like he's doing now if we leave the EU. He got that one badly wrong which just goes to show he hasn't got a clue about the EU.

Come on Nige. Spell it out to the British public just what a terrible thing it would be if we don't leave.

[BigColSutherland]

Are we in for an evening of "I agreee with Mick"?

[Filo]

Answer the question Nick instead of waffling!

[BigColSutherland]

Who won?

[Filo]

For me, Farage by a mile, Clegg avoided answering most of the questions

[not on facebook]

If you go on body lanuage then clegg had a Worse time due to fact
I lost count on number Of times he had a drink Of his water.

The UKIP Chap never had one drink Of water at all ,so took the show
In his stride.

But that dont mean fcuk all on how general Public think.

Now you have a labour mp from Leicester on sky news having his
Say on the 'side show' as he put it

Just shows what that  particular mp is all about ,as he is more Than happy
To take the piss out Of the 'side show' When his party could not be arsed
To have a member in the show.

Same can be said for conservatives i guess

[BillyStubbsTears]

Both won of course. That was the whole point. Neither of them were trying to convince the others' potential supporters so they could not possibly lose. Both of them got free exposure as serious politicians. Which is exactly what they wanted.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

For me, Farage by a mile, Clegg avoided answering most of the questions

Whereas I thought Clegg was the better of them by far. Farage was a blustering hot head, Clegg much more professional. It was like a tabloid against a broadsheet I thought.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I didn't watch it, but I'm guessing Clegg looked straight down the camera and used that earnest "you can trust me" face. Yep?

[BigColSutherland]

I didn't watch it, but I'm guessing Clegg looked straight down the camera and used that earnest "you can trust me" face. Yep?

I wonder if he made any pledges?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Did he sign a pledge on video saying that he will vote to keep us in the EU?

[Filo]

Clegg did lots of avoiding answering the questions asked, and drank about a gallon of water

[IC1967]

Farage won by a mile. A Yougov poll straight after said Farage was a clear winner. 56% for Farage and 36% for Clegg. Even 20% of liberal party members said Farage won.

[moses]

For those following the Scottish Independence debate, every argument used by the Stay Together campaign is a dress rehearsal for the EU in-out referendum.

Those that smile when Alec Sammond is faced with Businesses such as RBS setting up companies and offices in England to mitigate the risks of independence, will face the same scenario with the EU referendum.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Moses

I'm sure you're right.

We'll also hear lots of arguments about how we could be like Switzerland who trades successfully with the EU despite not being in it.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Thing is, even if we somehow wangle a free-trade agreement if we leave the EU, the costs of importing and exporting will go up because of the newly re-instated declarations, extra paperwork and Customs clearance delays.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I suspect we would be able to do so Glyn. And then we could be as economically successful as Switzerland.

[not on facebook]

If norway was ever to join the EU ,i be looking for somewhere Else
To call home .

Finland,iceland or maybe another non EU country

[Donnywolf]

If norway was ever to join the EU ,i be looking for somewhere Else
To call home .

Finland,iceland or maybe another non EU country

just nice to see you back "home" on here !

[BillyStubbsTears]

Oslo

Not only is Finland already in the EU, but it's ex Finance Minister is the deputy president of the European Commission, and is the man more responsible than anyone for the mad austerity policies that have put tens of millions of EU citizens on the dole.

[The Red Baron]

UKIP conference to be held in Donny:

http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/ukip-to-hold-its-biggest-ever-annual-conference-in-doncaster-1-6520205?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite

[The Red Baron]

If norway was ever to join the EU ,i be looking for somewhere Else
To call home .

Finland,iceland or maybe another non EU country

Norway won't join the EU for the same reasons they said No in 1973. The Common Fisheries Policy would destroy their fishing industry.

[not on facebook]

If norway was ever to join the EU ,i be looking for somewhere Else
To call home .

Finland,iceland or maybe another non EU country

Norway won't join the EU for the same reasons they said No in 1973. The Common Fisheries Policy would destroy their fishing industry.

What would fcuk the country up Even more would be the amount Of immirgrants wanting to set up home Here,since the benefit system must
Be one Of best in europe.

Things that have Been part Of norwegian social life since before it found oil
In 1970s are getting run out by the muslim community.

Its was set in Stone that one day a week the kids in school would go
Out into the woods whatever the weather and Build a fire and have sasuages

But some schools with muslims in are Now knocking the taking Of sasuages by students as not to upset the muslims in the class.

Its fcuking stupid as you can buy a turkey sasuage that does the same job
As the, normall bog standard norwegian pork sausage ,but some  muslims
Wont have it for whatever reasons.

My lad is out in woods today with his class and he loves it

[Glyn_Wigley]

I suspect we would be able to do so Glyn. And then we could be as economically successful as Switzerland.

AS I say, the costs of importing and exporting will still go up even if we were given the same status as Switzerland. Even though most of the trade with Switzerland is Duty free, Customs declarations still have to be made, as the goods have to qualify for that status (the goods have to be of Swiss, or another allowable country's, origin - otherwise China would just use Switzerland as a conduit to get their goods into the EU duty free).

[IC1967]

AS I say, the costs of importing and exporting will still go up even if we were given the same status as Switzerland.

Maybe. It depends on the deal we make with the EU. We import a lot more into the UK than we export to the EU. It would be massively in the interest of the EU to give us a very favourable deal as they would get much more out of it than we would.

We are now Germany's largest trade partner in the world and as the most powerful nation in the EU it is not in Germany's interests to make trade between the two countries difficult. The balance of trade is also heavily in their favour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9816643/Britain-becomes-Germanys-biggest-trade-partner-as-Berlin-London-pact-deepens.html

[BillyStubbsTears]

For once I agree with Mick (it had to happen eventually). We could do as well as Switzerland if we left the EU.