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IC1967

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Economy powering ahead
« on April 04, 2014, 10:49:05 am by IC1967 »
New car sales hit 10 year high.

House prices rising.

Retail sales up 1.7% rise in February.

Is there no end to the good news for the Tories? Confidence is flooding back to the consumer and business. Labour's electoral chances are diminishing rapidly by the day. What a relief.



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BigColSutherland

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #1 on April 04, 2014, 10:53:08 am by BigColSutherland »
When you praise the Conservatives, could you please remember to include the Liberal Democrats as well IC1967. They are a team.

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #2 on April 04, 2014, 11:20:39 am by Filo »
New car sales hit 10 year high.

House prices rising.

Retail sales up 1.7% rise in February.

Is there no end to the good news for the Tories? Confidence is flooding back to the consumer and business. Labour's electoral chances are diminishing rapidly by the day. What a relief.

House prices rising?

They might be in the more affluent areas of the Country, but they're not around here, i've just sold a house fro £13k less than the valution, the buyers first offer was £25k lower than the valuation. House prices are stagnant around here!

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #3 on April 04, 2014, 11:50:35 am by IC1967 »
I wish I'd known. I'd have offered you £12.5k less than the valuation.

You've slipped up there. I think you may have been had. Doncaster is the metropolitan district with the biggest annual house price increase in the country!

ttp://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/house-prices-are-on-the-up-in-doncaster-1-6200451

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #4 on April 04, 2014, 11:52:23 am by IC1967 »
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When you praise the Conservatives, could you please remember to include the Liberal Democrats as well IC1967. They are a team.

I think you'll find it is the LibDems that have been holding things back. The Tories on their own (if they'd had a majority) could have got us back on track much faster.

Filo

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #5 on April 04, 2014, 11:58:02 am by Filo »
I wish I'd known. I'd have offered you £12.5k less than the valuation.

You've slipped up there. I think you may have been had. Doncaster is the metropolitan district with the biggest annual house price increase in the country!

ttp://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/house-prices-are-on-the-up-in-doncaster-1-6200451

It's a myth Mick, ask estate agents that sell the houses, they'll tell you, there's no movement what so ever on prices in Doncaster

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #6 on April 04, 2014, 12:55:11 pm by bobjimwilly »
he's talking b*llocks again. just ignore him.

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #7 on April 04, 2014, 01:13:22 pm by IC1967 »
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he's talking b*llocks again. just ignore him.

Like what you're doing. Here is the evidence to back up the 'b*llocks' I'm talking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26880945

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26875279

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26849833

Where is your evidence?

Boomstick

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #8 on April 04, 2014, 02:47:36 pm by Boomstick »
I wish I'd known. I'd have offered you £12.5k less than the valuation.

You've slipped up there. I think you may have been had. Doncaster is the metropolitan district with the biggest annual house price increase in the country!

ttp://www.thestar.co.uk/news/business/house-prices-are-on-the-up-in-doncaster-1-6200451

It's a myth Mick, ask estate agents that sell the houses, they'll tell you, there's no movement what so ever on prices in Doncaster

That's rubbish, it was on look north recently, house prices ARE rising. And no where as rapidly as doncaster in the Yorkshire area.

As far as the house you sold, it's only worth as much as someone wants to pay. You say you sold it for 13k less than the valuation, who's valuation?
Also, why did you sell it for less than the 'valuation'?

Boomstick

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #9 on April 04, 2014, 02:48:07 pm by Boomstick »
he's talking b*llocks again. just ignore him.
No he's not, it's very true.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #10 on April 04, 2014, 02:53:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
House prices rising.

Any other thread and you're telling us about the inevitable and totally unavoidable deflation. Make your mind up.

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #11 on April 04, 2014, 03:35:54 pm by afro goal machine »
Its a buyers market you can expect to get %15 under valuation

godlike1

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #12 on April 04, 2014, 04:43:34 pm by godlike1 »
Bbc news reported not that long ago that London house prices were far out performing the rest of the country with the average at about £350k

That to me is just stupid and unsustainable and is not something you would find up north

That said, you can't get a mortgage without a deposit any more (which I do think is right) but even a 5% deposit on say a dingy 3bed house (if you have children) is £10k when you take fees into account. If you have a child at nursery, work for the government on an average wage and have to pay rent how do you save for a house deposit?

I am more of a conservative than labour because after working in private then public sector it was definitely a jobs for the boys market in the public sector which just spent, spent, sent when labour were in power

However with the conservatives it is privatise everything full stop. I don't agree with that, it should be a healthy mix, plus jobs for the boys still happens

In addition to all of the above, it's very much an employers market, to try and get the job you want and know you can do is met with very very tough competition....... Just ask Aldi

The solution to all of the above?????????????????

Lib dems.............it's clear they are yes boys and just not strong enough, we'd be over powered before you could say, damn I've shat myself again

BNP???? Bunch of right wing thugs and racist buffoons without a brain cell between them

UKIP??????? Not that far removed from the BNP and quite racist as well......... Not really my cup of tea if I'm hones

Overall decision, do what ever you can to leave this country because it's f........ked or bury you head and just look after yourself and family and forget everyone else

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #13 on April 04, 2014, 04:44:26 pm by IC1967 »
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Any other thread and you're telling us about the inevitable and totally unavoidable deflation. Make your mind up.

You've already had one battering recently so I'm going to let you off this time.

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #14 on April 04, 2014, 05:59:32 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Labour's electoral chances are diminishing rapidly by the day. What a relief.

Never one to let facts get in the way of opinions, eh Mick?
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8701#comments

How's that prediction that Labour would be on 26% in the polls by May looking? Going the same way as your prediction that we'd get relegated last year because our possession efficiency was shit?

IC1967

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« Reply #15 on April 04, 2014, 06:04:07 pm by IC1967 »
You're another one that's recently had a battering off me so I'm going to let you off as well. All I ask is that you try and stop yourself from going off topic. It's something you seem to be doing more and more these days.

If you've nothing useful to add might I suggest you just read the thread instead. You might learn something.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #16 on April 04, 2014, 06:17:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I did read the thread Mick. I read something you said in the very first post.

It was b*llocks.

I responded to it.

You ignored the response.

How many times have we walked round this block?

wilts rover

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #17 on April 04, 2014, 06:29:46 pm by wilts rover »
Tell these people that the economy is picking up and the new car industry booming.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/25/honda-automotive-industry

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #18 on April 04, 2014, 07:23:26 pm by IC1967 »
Billy. You are imagining things again. You have not responded to the thread.

Rios

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #19 on April 04, 2014, 07:48:46 pm by Rios »
New car sales hit 10 year high.

House prices rising.

Retail sales up 1.7% rise in February.

Is there no end to the good news for the Tories? Confidence is flooding back to the consumer and business. Labour's electoral chances are diminishing rapidly by the day. What a relief.

As someone who works in the motor trade I can assure you that new car sales are not good.  Maunfacturers pressuring dealers into pre-reg exercises to artficially inflate the numbers is a far more likely explanation.

IC1967

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #20 on April 04, 2014, 08:32:16 pm by IC1967 »
You may be struggling but that does not translate to the rest of the car industry. It is a fact that a lot more cars are being sold and pre registering is only a very small part of the overall picture and most definitely not the reason for the huge upturn.

Let's give credit where credit is due. We'll done Dave and George.

Sad-Rovers

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #21 on April 04, 2014, 08:56:45 pm by Sad-Rovers »
I live in the shadow of the Nissan plant in Washington. It's currently at full pelt, three shifts and they can't knock out Jukes and Qashqai's quick enough but then the car industry usually seems to prosper under Tory governments.

 

wilts rover

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« Reply #22 on April 04, 2014, 09:26:05 pm by wilts rover »
You may be struggling but that does not translate to the rest of the car industry. It is a fact that a lot more cars are being sold and pre registering is only a very small part of the overall picture and most definitely not the reason for the huge upturn.

Let's give credit where credit is due. We'll done Dave and George.

You appear to have missed my post, shall I post it again? I belive that Honda may know slightly more about the UK car industry than you do.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/25/honda-automotive-industry

IC1967

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« Reply #23 on April 04, 2014, 09:46:58 pm by IC1967 »
You pick one manufacturer that is struggling and then equate that to the whole industry despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

How very simplistic and totally irrational.

Sad-Rovers

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« Reply #24 on April 04, 2014, 09:50:01 pm by Sad-Rovers »
You may be struggling but that does not translate to the rest of the car industry. It is a fact that a lot more cars are being sold and pre registering is only a very small part of the overall picture and most definitely not the reason for the huge upturn.

Let's give credit where credit is due. We'll done Dave and George.

You appear to have missed my post, shall I post it again? I belive that Honda may know slightly more about the UK car industry than you do.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/25/honda-automotive-industry

Honda to lose 340 jobs, Nissan create 5200

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/5200-jobs-predicted-sunderland-gets-6831022
« Last Edit: April 04, 2014, 09:52:29 pm by Sad-Rovers »

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #25 on April 05, 2014, 01:37:33 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
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Any other thread and you're telling us about the inevitable and totally unavoidable deflation. Make your mind up.

You've already had one battering recently so I'm going to let you off this time.

How about 'letting me off' after you've decided whether to tell us prices are going up or down?

IC1967

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« Reply #26 on April 05, 2014, 02:07:23 pm by IC1967 »
Prices are going down.

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Economy powering ahead
« Reply #27 on April 06, 2014, 03:27:25 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Prices are going down.

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House prices rising.

IC1967

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« Reply #28 on April 06, 2014, 03:33:00 pm by IC1967 »
Your point is? I'll try and work it out even though it makes no sense whatsoever. You seem to be saying that I have contradicted myself. You seem to be implying that because house prices are rising that prices can't therefore be going down. How illogical.

Let me explain. House prices are just one part of the economy. House prices rising is inflationary and will put pressure on prices generally rising. However it is perfectly feasible for the rest of the economy to still bring prices down overall as the effect of house prices on its own is not enough to offset this. Get it?

Consider yourself to have been battered again.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #29 on April 06, 2014, 03:57:12 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Mick

I suspect Glyn was puzzled by the antithetical beliefs that you hold, whereby on the one hand you claim that we are spiralling into deflation, whereas on the other, you claim that the economy is powering ahead. It has to be one or the other. It can't be both.

So I understand and share Glyn's bemusement.

 

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