Brian Flynn next Blackpool manager?

[donnyguy61]

@Oddschanger  2m
Brian Flynn has today been cut to 6/4 from 25/1 to be the next Blackpool manager   

[Dare to dream!]

Just about to post this, interesting. Does he have a connection with Blackpool?

[timdrfc]

At least we will get another one off the wage bill, then maybe we will bring in some new players

[Drover]

This has suprised me,but thinking about it,I wonder if BF was disappointed he could not have the Rovers managers job full time.I know he said he wanted to do his work in the background or something along those lines,but if the ruomours are true that Dickov was lined up long before the brentford game maybe he now fancies a crack at managing a club at the lower end of the table in the championship.Also wonder if a target of self sustainability in league one means we do not want to keep him on the wage bill as timdrfc says.

[DonnyOsmond]

Self sustainable should mean focusing on youth so would it be a good idea getting rid of the Head of Youth Development or whatever he is?

[mrfrostsdad]

It's not Brian Flynn we need off the wage bill

[since-1969]

How very true . His experience has till not been used to It's best effect . Scouting !! We will need a strong side next season .

[RedArmy]

Glad for what he did for us and all that but he was really a shocking manager MK dons away last year I honestly can say that was worst game I've seen in last 10 years..

[timdrfc]

Glad for what he did for us and all that but he was really a shocking manager MK dons away last year I honestly can say that was worst game I've seen in last 10 years..

Totally agree

[steve@dcfd]

At least we will get another one off the wage bill, then maybe we will bring in some new players

At least he has a promotion on his CV what does Dickov have.

[GazLaz]

8/11 now. Awful appointment for them I think.

[IDM]

I'll make the same point as I made on the thread about Rotherham signing our players - let's be concerned about what staff we can retain here, not where anyone who leaves may go.  I would like BF to stay, even in the scouting/youth development roles.  If he wanted out so badly for a managers job, there were plenty on offer in the FL throughout last season...

[timdrfc]

At least we will get another one off the wage bill, then maybe we will bring in some new players

At least he has a promotion on his CV what does Dickov have.

Maybe in your eyes , but that was won by Dean Saunders team, he just limped over the line.

[Branton Rover]

It was Saunders team but we'd never have wo. The league if Dean had stayed he was putting his faith in people like Lee Fowler & Emile Sinclair at least Flynny recognised how poor these were & brought in Furman & John Lundstram

[RedJ]

It was Saunders team but we'd never have wo. The league if Dean had stayed he was putting his faith in people like Lee Fowler & Emile Sinclair at least Flynny recognised how poor these were & brought in Furman & John Lundstram

Aye the rest of his signings were w**k and all.

Oh, er...

[Derby Viking]

We won promotion despite Brian Flynn, not because of him

[Surrey Rover]

We won promotion despite Brian Flynn, not because of him

DRFC collected 34 points after Flynn took over from Saunders in January 2013 so how his contribution to the club winning League One can be dismissed so flippantly is beyond me.

[RedArmy]

We won promotion despite Brian Flynn, not because of him

DRFC collected 34 points after Flynn took over from Saunders in January 2013 so how his contribution to the club winning League One can be dismissed so flippantly is beyond me.

Not dismissed imo, if saunders had of stayed we would of won the league long before Brentford. but then we wouldnt of had such a good day in London, so thankful for what happened and good luck to Brian whatever happers.

[Mr1Croft]

We were only ever reached second under Saunders so you can't say definitivley whether or not we would have won the league. The only thing we can say for sure is that when Flynn took over we were second and we finished 1st.

There were 1 or 2 bad games under Flynn, but equally there were some shockers under Saunders as well, Coventry at home? It happens with every manager at some point.

[The Red Baron]

I have mixed feelings about Brian Flynn. On the one hand it can't be denied that on his watch Rovers were promoted as Champions of League One. Also, we were not top when he took over and so it can hardly be said that he simply kept the team ticking over until they clinched the title.

On the other hand, he seemed to struggle to change the dynamics of a game (something Saunders was adept at) and seemed to react to events rather than be pro-active with substitutions. A classic example was the home game with Portsmouth. Rovers dominated the first half and were 1-0 ahead, but they lost their grip on the game in the second half. Rather than making changes then, Flynn waited until Portsmouth equalised and then had to chase the game rather than re-establishing control.

There was also the classic comment after a poor display at Bury that it would not be allowed to happen again, only for Rovers to produce a similar performance (and result) a week later at home to Walsall.

I think Flynn was good at creating a relaxed environment around the team and his experience was invaluable, but for me there was one man who drove that team over the line in 2012-13- and that was Rob Jones. How we missed his influence last season!

[donnygav93]

Would be a shame to see Brian go if I remember correctly didn't deano invite Brian to come and watch us in a pre season game to show just how much work they had on I think many of the signing's that year would have had some influence from himself

In terms of him being with dickov maybe dickov isn't a fan of him and would sooner let his own guys run the development squad

It will be a shame to see him go but I think he is based in Lancashire

Good luck in what ever happens Brian thanks for that end of season

[Rios]

There's a lot of rose tinting going on about that season.  Apart from a few bright spots, (Scunny at home, Brentford and Crewe away for example) we were an effective but dour team that ground out results.  It won us a title but it wasn't nice to watch, especially at home and home games were a bit of a chore all the way through it.  Flynn didn't change that, or look remotely capable of doing it and for me that's why he didn't get the job despite the promotion.

[BillyStubbsTears]

We won promotion despite Brian Flynn, not because of him

DRFC collected 34 points after Flynn took over from Saunders in January 2013 so how his contribution to the club winning League One can be dismissed so flippantly is beyond me.

True, but those 34 points came from 20 games. That's equivalent to a rate of 78 points in a full season. Not bad, but certainly not top 2 form. By contrast, under Saunders we got 50 points in 26 games which is equivalent to 88 points over a season - almost guaranteed top 2 form.

Whichever way you look at it, our form dipped badly after Saunders left. The reason that we won the league despite this is that of the others in the top 5 when Flynn took over, Sheff Utd and Tranmere utterly collapsed, Brentford did as moderately as us, and the one side who really had excellent form over the last 20 games, Bournemouth, were just a fraction too far behind to catch us.

None of that detracts from the fact that Flynn got just enough out of us to win the league, which in the end is all that matters. But it does give some context.

[eastender]

We won the League 1 title with 84 pts  , that tally would have seen us sneak into the play offs in 6th place this season.
If Sheff Utd hadn't had such a bad start i doubt that 84 pts would have been enoungh. 
I can't see it being much different next season, we need to get off to flyer.   

[Surrey Rover]

We won promotion despite Brian Flynn, not because of him

DRFC collected 34 points after Flynn took over from Saunders in January 2013 so how his contribution to the club winning League One can be dismissed so flippantly is beyond me.

True, but those 34 points came from 20 games. That's equivalent to a rate of 78 points in a full season. Not bad, but certainly not top 2 form. By contrast, under Saunders we got 50 points in 26 games which is equivalent to 88 points over a season - almost guaranteed top 2 form.

Whichever way you look at it, our form dipped badly after Saunders left. The reason that we won the league despite this is that of the others in the top 5 when Flynn took over, Sheff Utd and Tranmere utterly collapsed, Brentford did as moderately as us, and the one side who really had excellent form over the last 20 games, Bournemouth, were just a fraction too far behind to catch us.

None of that detracts from the fact that Flynn got just enough out of us to win the league, which in the end is all that matters. But it does give some context.

I take your point BST but lets not forget he steadied the ship after the disruption created by Saunders shock resignation who also took much of his backroom team with him. Add to that the problems in central midfield, Keegan was injured for several games not long after he took over. Remember the central midfield pairing at Crawley, Harper and a very unfit Fowler? He then brought in Lundstram to fill the gap but was still hit by injuries to such an extent that Lundstram was the only recognised central midfield player at Bournemouth yet we still came away with the three points. So yes he only managed 1.7 points per game as opposed to 1.92 under Dean Saunders but given the circumstances he did admirably and to suggest promotion was achieved in spite of him is nonsense in my opinion.

[Surrey Rover]

There's a lot of rose tinting going on about that season.  Apart from a few bright spots, (Scunny at home, Brentford and Crewe away for example) we were an effective but dour team that ground out results.  It won us a title but it wasn't nice to watch, especially at home and home games were a bit of a chore all the way through it.  Flynn didn't change that, or look remotely capable of doing it and for me that's why he didn't get the job despite the promotion.

Yet we replaced a manager who had achieved 1.7 points per game in league one with a manager whose points ratio was 1.13 in league one. The rest is history but the future doesn't look bright under this current manager, the stats speak for themselves.

[DonnyOsmond]

There's a lot of rose tinting going on about that season.  Apart from a few bright spots, (Scunny at home, Brentford and Crewe away for example) we were an effective but dour team that ground out results.  It won us a title but it wasn't nice to watch, especially at home and home games were a bit of a chore all the way through it.  Flynn didn't change that, or look remotely capable of doing it and for me that's why he didn't get the job despite the promotion.

Yet we replaced a manager who had achieved 1.7 points per game in league one with a manager whose points ratio was 1.13 in league one. The rest is history but the future doesn't look bright under this current manager, the stats speak for themselves.

I'm unsure of Dickov but you can't use stats from two teams against each other, one was a team challenging and one was a team trying to stay up.

[Surrey Rover]

The 1.13 points ratio relates to Dickovs two and a half seasons at Oldham, 122 games to precise, which is why I'm not at all optimistic about next season.

[Wild Rover]

Do you know, I don't remember a time when the concensus of opinion around DRFC manager was unanimous in favour.
PD divides as did BF,DS,SO'D, DP,IS, Going right back to Bill Leivers. ( cant go back further as that's when I started watching DRFC ).
I suppose it wouldn't matter who was in the "Hot seat" 40% would be in favour, 40% against and 20% not arsed either way.

[NickDRFC]

Can't quite fully agree with that, when DP had us flying high in league two there were very few who didn't back him. Similarly when SOD had us competitive year on year in the championship. The split opinion becomes more evident when the side is struggling, that said Saunders and Flynn continues to split opinion despite being generally very successful - probably due to some of the dirge that was served up on a fairly frequent basis.