0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
OsloYour suggestion that the police treat Asians more lightly because of some pinko PC fear is, frankly, b*llocks.The Office for National Statistics has figures on police stop-and-search, arrests and prosecutions.in 2011/12 (the last year that I have seen numbers for), in South Yorkshire, Asians were about 60% more likely to be stopped and searched than white British. Blacks were 150% more likely to be stopped and searched. It's a similar story all over the country. In the whole of England and Wales, blacks were 5times more likely to be stopped and searched than whites and Asians about 50% more likely. In some places, the figures were extraordinary.And the police have got tougher on minorities. Between 2007-08 and 2011-12, the number of whites stopped and searched fell by half. The number of blacks went up by 75% and the number of Asians doubled. Similar story with arrests after stop and search. Whites fell by 68%, blacks went up by 30%, Asians went up by 43%.The whole story about the police going easy on ethnic minorities is demonstrable bullshit. There MAY have been problems in Rotherham. Again, we only have anecdotal evidence in a poorly written report to go on. But to draw from that a conclusion that we live in a country (well you don't, obviously) where the police take it easy on ethnic minorities because they are terrified of lefties calling them names is bullshit. I don't know why you're so keen to peddle that story.
I didn't know Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Max Clifford etc were Asian.
Quote from: Iberian Red on August 29, 2014, 01:17:12 pmI didn't know Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Max Clifford etc were Asian.Or the last mayor It's missing the point though, no one is suggesting there aren't sex abusers in other sectors of society.
BoomstickSaying it's an Asian problem isn't being fair to Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist members of the Asian community.
Quote from: River Don on August 29, 2014, 01:20:33 pmQuote from: Iberian Red on August 29, 2014, 01:17:12 pmI didn't know Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Max Clifford etc were Asian.Or the last mayor It's missing the point though, no one is suggesting there aren't sex abusers in other sectors of society.Wrong. Boomstick is.
BoomstickWe were talking specifically about whether the police had systematically and deliberately turned a blind eye to crimes by Asians. The evidence is that they don'tI gave Stop and Search figures, because they are the ones that immediately give an impression of who the police are targeting. If you want data on sexual crime figures, those are easy enough to find. In fact, so easy, that anyone who wants to contribute to this discussion should go and familiarise themselves with the numbers before regaling us all with their opinions.In 2011, the percentage of people in the UK who were from a Asian (not including Chinese) ethnic group was about 6%. In the period 2007-2012, the same Asian group consistently made up 8-9% of the total number of arrests in the UK for sexual offences. (ONS figures:https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257054/suspects-table.xls Sheet 3.09).Now, that may well suggest that the Asian community has a bigger than average problem with sexual deviancy. That wouldn't surprise me - it comes with the territory with repressed sexual behaviour. But it certainly gives the lie to the claim that the police are turning a blind eye to this sort of criminality by Asians. The police regularly arrest 3-3,500 Asians every year from sexual offences.The problem with SY Police appears to be a cack-handed attitude to the girls themselves. An attitude that the girls were troublemakers or thrill seekers who were bringing it upon themselves. I'll state once again. There is no evidence whatsoever of a systematic approach by SY Police that turned a blind eye to this criminality BECAUSE the perpetrators were Asian. If you have any, show it to me.
Quote from: River Don on August 29, 2014, 01:15:36 pmBoomstickSaying it's an Asian problem isn't being fair to Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist members of the Asian community.Quote from: River Don on August 29, 2014, 01:15:36 pmBoomstickSaying it's an Asian problem isn't being fair to Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist members of the Asian community.Oh come off it, it's a Pakistani Muslim problem, Is that better? Jesus wept
Quote from: Boomstick on August 29, 2014, 01:38:10 pmQuote from: River Don on August 29, 2014, 01:15:36 pmBoomstickSaying it's an Asian problem isn't being fair to Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist members of the Asian community.Quote from: River Don on August 29, 2014, 01:15:36 pmBoomstickSaying it's an Asian problem isn't being fair to Hindu, Sikh and Buddhist members of the Asian community.Oh come off it, it's a Pakistani Muslim problem, Is that better? Jesus wept Yes, it's better.I make the distinction because there appears to be this significant minority of young Muslim men who hold non Muslims and women in utter disdain.I see an echo of this in the way IS/ISIS/ISIL have enslaved the women of minority groups in Northern Iraq to be sex slaves. It's the same outlook that they are subhuman trash.
I repeat. Once again. There is no evidence whatsoever, none at all, that Police systematically turn a blind eye to sexual crimes or child exploitation by Asians, BECAUSE they are Asians. There is no evidence whatsoever that police are failing to prosecute Asians for fear of being labelled racist by the Asian community (not sure why you mention councils - they don't prosecute anyone, and my original comments were addressed to Oslo who was specifically talking about the Police approach).I'll repeat again, if you have evidence to the contrary, tell us what it is.
Some good may have come out of the sex scandal in Rotherham. It would appear that stories like this have convinced the vast majority of the population that multiculturalism has not worked. Politicians take note (especially leftie socialists).http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/31/95-percent-of-BBC-viewers-think-multiculturalism-has-failed