Evans

[Askern_reds]

For god sake Hartlepool takeing him ffs we missed out there don't care what the fury duddys say

[IDM]

They haven't taken him yet, just their new manager showing an interest.

How many times must we say this - whilst Evans remains an unrepentant convicted rapist, then he's a non-starter for us IMHO and for many others I guess too.  Should he clear his name, then a rethink is perfectly acceptable.

[HomerJSimpson]

Football about to go further in the gutter shocker!!

Football fan has no morals shocker!!

Club will to do anything to survive/succeed shocker!!

[southwestexile]

Fury duddys?

[Donnywolf]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuddy+duddy

[Filo]

Hartlepool have issued a statement saying they will not be signing him, he's unemployable in British Football

[dickos1]

How can he be unemployable, yet Hughes and McCormack be employable?

[DRNaith]

How can he be unemployable, yet Hughes and McCormack be employable?

For a start they've served their punishment,  Evans is out on licence.

[mrfrostsdad]

Evans didn't kill anyone

[German Rover]

Evans didn't kill anyone

They both apologised for their actions and tried to make amends.  Evans on the other hand has stated he did nothing wrong.  The courts said otherwise.  I have more faith in the british justice system then some tin pot footballer who believes hes above the law.

[mrfrostsdad]

Evans raped a silly, young drunken girl who had already s*****d his mate (who wasn't guilty of rape) Yes, it was a crime worthy of gaol which is what he got. He doesn't believe he was guilty and is appealing. His right. How can he apologise and then appeal? He can't.

The other two as I recall, killed people (one of them kids if I remember correctly) when driving their cars pissed. So, the fact they have apologised makes it ok for them to play football again? Not in my book it doesn't. Which is the 'worse' crime? Having sex with a girl who was too pissed to consent, or killing a couple of kids when you're driving your car over the limit? You decide mate

[TheFunk]

In my opinion rape is as bad as murder. A rape victim has to live with what happened for the rest of their lives and I can't begin to imagine what psychological damage such an heinous crime must do.

[mrfrostsdad]

Ok, I give in

[StocktonRover]

I seem to think that the two offences that are being called murder were in fact manslaughter.

The difference being that they never committed the offences with intent.

I'm not sure you can rape someone without intent?

[Glyn_Wigley]

How can he apologise and then appeal? He can't.

Yes he can, he can apologise for his actions whilst still contesting that they constituted rape. As far as I know, he hasn't done this - at least, not to the supposed victim.

[dickos1]

I seem to think that the two offences that are being called murder were in fact manslaughter.

The difference being that they never committed the offences with intent.

I'm not sure you can rape someone without intent?

They got in a car while drunk and drove while drunk, Hughes then ran off and left his victim for dead,
Hughes victim didn't die but is now in a wheelchair and brain damaged, McCormack killed his victims.
If Evans is adamant he didn't do it why on earth would he apologise? I've looked into this case quite a lot and the only evidence there is, is that the girl was too drunk to consent.
That's it, so it's his word against hers, she has already accused numerous other people of sexual assault and rape, but this wasn't allowed to be told to the jury

[acko]

tell me funk whats the most likely seniario,the girl going out again and getting pissed or the parents of the kiddies killed by mccormack having a real jolly christmas

[IDM]

When a drunk driver kills someone they don't intend to kill.  But their actions are stupid and they have to live with the guilt forever.

A rapist intends to have sex with the victim.

It is the intent and remorse that is the difference.  I would  be wary about DRFC employing a killer drink driver too.

[coventryrover]

DO you know what.  They all comitted heinous crimes which could have easily been avoided.  All as bad as each other, dont forget the victims.

Just imagine that girl was your daughter then lets see how blase you are about it.

[acko]

if it was my daughter i would want to know what the f=== was she doing going back to a strangers hotel and being that drunk she didnt know why ,what did she think she was going for a game of scrabble,and if it was my kiddies that got killed mccormack wouldnt be playing football he would be too busy watching his back,cause i dont care how much it cost or how much time i got,i could always say sorry didnt mean to do it then all would be well

[coventryrover]

Didn't know you were there Acko.  He raped here.  He knew she hadn't given consent.

Hughes and McCormack knew what they were doing..All guilty.

[Wiltshire Exile]

I've looked into this case quite a lot and the only evidence there is, is that the girl was too drunk to consent.

Am I missing something here? The girl was too drunk to consent. Evans had sex without her consent. Get it? No consent = RAPE. How much more do you want it spelt out?

[acko]

i wasnt there neither was you the girl said she couldnt remember saying no,whats men got to do now carry a contract and get it  signed.and like many cases coming to the courts now no evidence just one word against another very dangerous president to set evans as never denied he had sex with her just one word against another and this crap about showing remorse and saying didnt mean to do it the prisons are full of people like that should we let em all out and say on your way.it doesnt work like that i appologised for speeding, and said i would never do it again.it worked fined £300 6 penalty points good job i said sorry they might have hung me

[HomerJSimpson]

You can spell it out as much and as simple as you like but some people obviously think of rape as a menial crime and therefore acceptable in society.

In my opinion football needs to re-evaluate who can and can't play the sport. Hughes, McCormack, Evans, King and any other scumbag like them should not be allowed to play.

Certainly players still serving their sentence should definitely not be able to play. If on licence then they haven't served their sertence.

Some people in football do not live in the real world!!

[LincolnDonny]

In my opinion rape is as bad as murder. A rape victim has to live with what happened for the rest of their lives and I can't begin to imagine what psychological damage such an heinous crime must do.

It screws you for life, and you live with it awake and at sleep.

Maybe coz of the people involved work  at same place, its you that has to change jobs and stop going to College.

You feel frightened of going out for a long time and its you that feels betrayed, and your whole life you wonder who you can trust..............but Hell if he says hes not guilty even when found Guilty by his Peers and there will always be some scum who believes the sinned against is the guilty ...........................           then GOD help us.

And then you wonder why some don't report theses Disgusting things.

[acko]

weve argued or dicussed this point many times for and against.i have alwats backed evans to be allowed to play as others have said no so we are going over old ground.my last word on this is people say there is only one rape weather its by brutal force or someone who in her own admission was too drunk to remember.yet there is two types of murder,prmeditated or manslaughter so if rape is rape murder is murder no more i didnt mean to do it ok manslaughter.god lincoln she reported someone else before evans she still ent back to a strangers hotel she doesnt to me sound scarred for life

[dickos1]

I've looked into this case quite a lot and the only evidence there is, is that the girl was too drunk to consent.

Am I missing something here? The girl was too drunk to consent. Evans had sex without her consent. Get it? No consent = RAPE. How much more do you want it spelt out?

I think you must be missing something... She wasn't too drunk to consent with one guy but she was with the other.
And who's to say she was too drunk anyhow?

[Glyn_Wigley]

I've looked into this case quite a lot and the only evidence there is, is that the girl was too drunk to consent.

Am I missing something here? The girl was too drunk to consent. Evans had sex without her consent. Get it? No consent = RAPE. How much more do you want it spelt out?

I think you must be missing something... She wasn't too drunk to consent with one guy but she was with the other.
And who's to say she was too drunk anyhow?

So you're saying she was sober when she didn't consent? That doesn't help Evans case much, quite the reverse in fact.

[acko]

you forget both men were charged so in her words she didnt consent to anyone,its just one was found not guilty  and one was found guilty,strange dont you think.and on another point if evans was a player from down south or scotland or even europe would we care less.its just that he played for one of our local rivals.and may i suggest you read about robinho and see how many times hes been charged but brushed under the table

[dickos1]

Her argument is she can't remember whether she consented or not.
She cannot remember anything,