Pyro

[Copps is Magic]

It was a good atmosphere. We need to continue the positivity and get things out there on social media. Pictures, videos etc.

[Copps is Magic]

Saying that though, nowt beats 'flag day' at Belle Vue. Remember those? 

[drfchound]

For those of us who don't use Facebook, will someone just explain what was posted on there please.

Secondly, the atmosphere on saturday in the South Stand was fantastic.
I sit central and about 2/3 of the way up and there were times when i had to shout to my mate next to me to make myself heard.
It was by far the noisiest it has been in there for some years.
please don't let the use of Pyro's spoil things lads.

[Muttley]

For those of us who don't use Facebook, will someone just explain what was posted on there please.

Nothing of any consequence.

https://www.facebook.com/blackbankDRFC?fref=ts

[drfchound]

Cheers Muttley.

[hoolahoop]

the old people you talk about hoola followed thro the bad times,the younger element went to leeds ,are you suggesting there should be an age limit when you must stop supporting a team.fun is fun but I get the feeling the self styled black bank are attracting an element not wanted at football matches.how many more pyros does it need before the f.a. step in and take action,ie fine for the club and section of ground closed.people know who the culprit and trouble makers are.report it now and snap it in the bud

Acko , I'm 59 and my first game was in the 67/8 season so don't give  me that. Some here need to remember what it was like to support their team in the 1950's through to the present day.
Lighten up , I feel refreshed by what these lads and lasses are doing irrespective of age....why shouldn't  they live on the edge too and have fun .

Providing it is done within rules, safely and without the violence of my youth. Give this a chance , you've all screamed for this and now you have the potential for an enhanced atmosphere. One knob with a pyro does not an experiment break !

There are bound to be boundaries pushed by both the stadium management and the supporters. Both are testing the water ; it's difficult for the Stewards to be more relaxed and it's difficult too for the supporters to know the exact boundaries when the parameters are suddenly changed and ridiculous decisions are made about the flag etc.

The Leeds game will be interesting i.e. are the stewards going to be silly again with the home supporters whilst letting the Leeds act in their usual way ? All I want is for it to be safe. That does NOT mean over-zealous stewarding but rather smart vigilant stewarding that's not in the supporter's faces.

[Copps is Magic]

Well said that man.

[donnyallday]

Just a quickie, did the club grant the swearing german flag to start with  only then to back track ?

[Jamie_1878]

For those of us who don't use Facebook, will someone just explain what was posted on there please.

Nothing of any consequence.

https://www.facebook.com/blackbankDRFC?fref=ts

I've followed that link and can't see anything relating to pyro? Am I missing something?

[hoolahoop]

That's the gist of what I heard , I gathered that the swear words had been covered up and that the flag could be used . CIM may be able to help me out here ? I wonder if the middle section was written in Swahili, would there still be an objection ?
So let me get this right 1500 can mouth the words but no-one can see the German hymn sheet ?

[donnyallday]

So youre just going on hear say then Hoola.

[Iberian Red]

For those of us who don't use Facebook, will someone just explain what was posted on there please.

Nothing of any consequence.

https://www.facebook.com/blackbankDRFC?fref=ts

That looks well intimidating...

[Copps is Magic]

That's the gist of what I heard , I gathered that the swear words had been covered up and that the flag could be used . CIM may be able to help me out here ? I wonder if the middle section was written in Swahili, would there still be an objection ?
So let me get this right 1500 can mouth the words but no-one can see the German hymn sheet ?

Mimi, naenda kulala, rafiki yangu.

[Iberian Red]

Sorry,that was auto correct,read embarrassing

[hoolahoop]

No the conversation was going on next to me . It was raucous in there, presumably you know something different to ''we agreed but''..... pray tell.

[acko]

you obviously misunderstood what I was saying hoola,i am in know way accusing the the black bank of being trouble but I do think there is an element of trouble causes that will attache theirselves to the black bank which will tar them all with the same brush,i don't think for one minute that all millwall or leeds supporters go out to cause trouble but those that do bring the club down,you yourself must remember how it was when fighting and trouble was the norm at matches do we need to go back to those days.pyros are banned from football matches in this country so root out the people what take them and get rid

[BillyStubbsTears]

This pyro business.

Letting of steam like this is a classic case of Freudian sublimation of unsatisfied sexual urges.

In other words, they're not getting their rocks off.

In which case, maybe they need some help.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porno_for_Pyros_(album)

[wilts rover]

Wasn't Rocks Off by Def Leppard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dg5dkJAGSM

[RobTheRover]

Rocks - Primal Scream

[hoolahoop]

Nice one fellas, I'm more worried about stewards knocking every fecker out of the way  including moi to get a bloody flag off some supporters. Was it really necessary ?

[Sammy Chung was King]

The heavies that walk around the ground, don't you think they look like the second rate villains with the little leather gloves on that Terry McCann regularly fettles for Arfur?, pantomime villains!

[hoolahoop]

The heavies that walk around the ground, don't you think they look like the second rate villains with the little leather gloves on that Terry McCann regularly fettles for Arfur?, pantomime villains!

Yes and it needs sorting.

[Sammy Chung was King]

The heavies that walk around the ground, don't you think they look like the second rate villains with the little leather gloves on that Terry McCann regularly fettles for Arfur?, pantomime villains!

Yes and it needs sorting.

They do look very much like bouncers from the clubs, wearing four coats to make them look more bulky.

[Donnywolf]

The heavies that walk around the ground, don't you think they look like the second rate villains with the little leather gloves on that Terry McCann regularly fettles for Arfur?, pantomime villains!

Yes and it needs sorting.

Well if they are out of a panto they should dress appropriately

[Copps is Magic]

The club have released two statements today.

The first on 'Pyros' Basically says pyros are a no.

The second on banners, which basically says that small flags are ok, Big banners have to be taken to the club and agreed before hand. This seems fair enough to me. I have actually done this myself this week and they were OK about it (and they were a bit more lenient than the rules suggest).

[silent majority]

I think the policy on flags is appalling, where the heck did they get that from??

[Copps is Magic]

In what way?

edit - now I read it, some bits are a bit draconian

5. Flags which are not subject to section 4 (above) may generally be waved in the   stadium;
however,   the Stadium Operator reserves    the right,   if appropriate to ask   supporters to resist from   waving flags in certain circumstances.

This seems to give stewards free right to stop people waving even small flags at any time?

[silent majority]

In what way?

Basically all of it.

There's nothing in the Green Guide to affect flags or banners, the SAG have no policy on this either. An example, to suggest a flag that is larger than 0.6m x 1.0m should be flame retardant and have a fire certificate is completely OTT. My England flag is much bigger than that and I've never had to produce anything in any stadium I've ever been to, and I've been to quite a few around the globe in the last 30 years or so. If Wembley ever introduced this policy then it would be completely devoid of flags.

[Copps is Magic]

OK, I agree in part (see the PM I sent you). But in practice, you wouldn't be able to take your England flag into the Keepmoat anyway because there is basically zero free available space that has not already been taken by advertising, and banners can't block advertising. They have written these rules (it seems to me) in response to the prospect of very large, over the head type banners coming in. Have they not consulted the fan pannel in anyway on this?

[silent majority]

We (the fan panel) have discussed flags and banners numerous times, but this is a first time I've seen a written policy. I have my suspicions of where this has come from!!