Author Topic: jr (Read 4558 times)

bfdoncaster west · « on October 01, 2015, 02:59:21 pm by bfdoncaster west »

who wood have jr back or not

« **on:** October 01, 2015, 02:59:21 pm »

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RedJ · « **Reply #1 on** October 01, 2015, 03:01:27 pm by RedJ »

He's not coming back.

Move on.

Yorkiered · « **Reply #2 on** October 01, 2015, 03:01:44 pm by Yorkiered »

Didn't somebody shoot him?

Lipsy · « *Last Edit: October 01, 2015, 03:28:40 pm by Lipsy* »

I think he shot himself (in the foot).

the vicar · « **Reply #4 on** October 01, 2015, 03:33:29 pm by the vicar »

I would as there is no heart in the club now it is soulless

the dons · « **Reply #5 on** October 01, 2015, 04:39:21 pm by the dons »

YES YES YES.

Al4475 · « *Last Edit: October 01, 2015, 05:13:00 pm by Al4475* »

Not if he came back with his only backing being faceless (now obselete btw) hedgefunds, recently bankrupt agents and crazy pop star related crowdfunder ideas alongside as his sources of income! Sorry!

Yorkiered · « **Reply #7 on** October 01, 2015, 05:09:38 pm by Yorkiered »

Quote from: Al4475 on October 01, 2015, 05:05:35 pm

Not if he came back with his only backing being faceless hedgefunds, now bankrupt agents and crazy pop star crowdfunder ideas alongside as his sources of income! Sorry!

Ha ha. There would be some who wouldn't want him even if he came with Donald Trump as a backer.

the vicar · « **Reply #8 on** October 01, 2015, 05:47:51 pm by the vicar »

Not many

Glyn_Wigley · « **Reply #9 on** October 01, 2015, 05:49:47 pm by Glyn_Wigley »

Quote from: Yorkiered on October 01, 2015, 05:09:38 pm

Quote from: Al4475 on October 01, 2015, 05:05:35 pm
Not if he came back with his only backing being faceless hedgefunds, now bankrupt agents and crazy pop star crowdfunder ideas alongside as his sources of income! Sorry!

Ha ha. There would be some who wouldn't want him even if he came with Donald Trump as a backer.

I'd welcome anyone who has the money and not the illusion of it.

wing commander · « **Reply #10 on** October 01, 2015, 06:42:46 pm by wing commander »

I think you would see mass resignations in the offices if he did...

Upton Rover · « **Reply #11 on** October 01, 2015, 07:22:15 pm by Upton Rover »

Jesus move on fella,

Move DRFC · « **Reply #12 on** October 02, 2015, 08:50:50 pm by Move DRFC »

In an absolute heart beat. Look at the success he brought and he's ambitious

Bentley Bullet · « **Reply #13 on** October 02, 2015, 08:54:35 pm by Bentley Bullet »

If only he had TB/DW's wealth, or if TB/DW had JR's ambition.

1879Rovers · « **Reply #14 on** October 02, 2015, 10:50:46 pm by 1879Rovers »

Leave him at Southfork

Sammy Chung was King · « **Reply #15 on** October 03, 2015, 01:34:03 am by Sammy Chung was King »

Yes in charge of the football side of the business, he would be good as the voice of the board, he loves the attention and media interactions.
I do feel the current board are not comfortable talking to the media, they like an understaed way of doing things
Nothing wrong with that, everybody has their way of doing things, but a small club like ours needs something extra, and the publicity he drums up, would get us back in the news.

mushRTID · « **Reply #16 on** October 03, 2015, 03:14:54 am by mushRTID »

Remember that thread claiming big bad news was about to be released about JR "in the next few days"

That turned out well didn't it.

Re the original question, YES from me

German Rover · « **Reply #17 on** October 03, 2015, 07:12:53 am by German Rover »

Personally speaking Jr. was a bit embarrassing sometimes with his love of publicity. How many other chairmen were in the national papers as often as jr? Not many if any. I personally prefer the current set up. How many leaks have we seen since the change in regime? None, how many times have the current board berated referees? Not once. Right or wrong JR and SOD are the past now and the sooner people got over this fact the club would be a better place to be in my opinion.

RedJ · « **Reply #18 on** October 03, 2015, 09:05:52 am by RedJ »

That's just it. People can't get over it and won't accept that they're gone and almost certainly are never coming back.

The Red Baron · « **Reply #19 on** October 03, 2015, 09:13:19 am by The Red Baron »

Quote from: RedJ on October 03, 2015, 09:05:52 am

That's just it. People can't get over it and won't accept that they're gone and almost certainly are never coming back.

I agree with that. I'm not one of those who thinks we should re-hire SOD as manager either. Both him and JR did great things for the club when they were here and we should never forget that. But we should look to the future.

In any walk of life, when people go back to the scene of previous triumphs it seldom works out well. As a small example, I offer you Billy Sharp.

Lifelong supporter · « **Reply #20 on** October 03, 2015, 09:31:10 am by Lifelong supporter »

Alick Jeffrey didn't do too bad when he came back...

The Red Baron · « **Reply #21 on** October 03, 2015, 10:25:16 am by The Red Baron »

He didn't do badly at all, but he was playing at two levels below where he had been when he suffered his injury. And people who saw the Alick of the 50s say he was a better player than the one who returned.

I seem to recall his strike partner of the mid-60s, Laurie Sheffield, having a short-lived comeback with us in 1969-70. That was regarded as the return of the Prodigal Son, but unfortunately he didn't achieve much.

Tim Ryan is a better case of an exception to the rule, but he was a much better and smarter footballer when he came back to us.

Muttley · « **Reply #22 on** October 03, 2015, 10:45:43 am by Muttley »

Quote from: The Red Baron on October 03, 2015, 10:25:16 am

He didn't do badly at all, but he was playing at two levels below where he had been when he suffered his injury. And people who saw the Alick of the 50s say he was a better player than the one who returned.

I seem to recall his strike partner of the mid-60s, Laurie Sheffield, having a short-lived comeback with us in 1969-70. That was regarded as the return of the Prodigal Son, but unfortunately he didn't achieve much.

Tim Ryan is a better case of an exception to the rule, but he was a much better and smarter footballer when he came back to us.

Why do you describe Laurie Sheffield as "prodigal"? What did he do after he left Rovers to deserve this epithet?

Bentley Bullet · « **Reply #23 on** October 03, 2015, 10:53:54 am by Bentley Bullet »

I have a theory about this. When previously successful people are re-appointed, the bar is raised, meaning their expectant level of performance is exaggerated.

Another reason for a person not living up to his previous standard could be the change in circumstances since the previous spell, for instance his new colleagues being sub-standard compared to the previous ones last time around.

Billy Sharp fits both these categories.

Bentley Bullet · « **Reply #24 on** October 03, 2015, 10:56:17 am by Bentley Bullet »

Colin Douglas?
Alan Warboys?

The Red Baron · « *Last Edit: October 03, 2015, 11:08:39 am by The Red Baron* »

I was speaking figuratively, as in "The Return of the Prodigal Son" from the Bible. Fatted calves slaughtered and much rejoicing, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son

A lot of people were upset when he was sold, for a knock-down price, to Norwich City not long after we were promoted to Division 3 in 1966. The sale was seen as symptomatic of the club's lack of ambition.

The Red Baron · « *Last Edit: October 03, 2015, 11:04:02 am by The Red Baron* »

Quote from: Bentley Bullet on October 03, 2015, 10:56:17 am

Colin Douglas?
Alan Warboys?

Both examples of players who had two successful spells, possibly because they were subtly different as players when they came back.

Warboys was a promising young striker when he left us and returned as a grizzled, streetwise veteran. The ideal man to fit into a young side needing experienced leaders.

Dougie left us as a striker but on his return played mostly in defence. So his performance wasn't necessarily judged by the standards he set in his previous spell- see under Richie Wellens.

The Red Baron · « **Reply #27 on** October 03, 2015, 11:05:47 am by The Red Baron »

Quote from: Bentley Bullet on October 03, 2015, 10:53:54 am

I have a theory about this. When previously successful people are re-appointed, the bar is raised, meaning their expectant level of performance is exaggerated.

Another reason for a person not living up to his previous standard could be the change in circumstances since the previous spell, for instance his new colleagues being sub-standard compared to the previous ones last time around.

Billy Sharp fits both these categories.

I think there's a lot in that theory.

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