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Rich_The_Conisbrough_Rover

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Stoke @ Home
« on December 07, 2015, 07:24:43 pm by Rich_The_Conisbrough_Rover »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.



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Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #1 on December 07, 2015, 07:45:03 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

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« Reply #2 on December 07, 2015, 07:51:51 pm by Donnywolf »
The Club should advertise the Tickets as "Free Trumpet / Drum" with every South Stand Ticket sold .. people would get the drift I am sure !

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« Reply #3 on December 07, 2015, 07:54:20 pm by Yorkiered »
Hardly the most exciting draw of the round. Doubt if we will get near 10,000

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« Reply #4 on December 07, 2015, 07:56:49 pm by Copps is Magic »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

The club need to stick by unallocated seating, then the atmosphere should sort itself out.

normal rules

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« Reply #5 on December 07, 2015, 07:57:57 pm by normal rules »
Hardly the most exciting draw of the round. Doubt if we will get near 10,000
If they get the ticket pricing right, there will be a good crowd.

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« Reply #6 on December 07, 2015, 08:10:41 pm by dknward2 »
probably need to sort something out with us being at home on boxing day buy a ticket for that game get a fiver off.

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« Reply #7 on December 07, 2015, 08:11:58 pm by normal rules »
Plenty of opportunities for the club to get this just right. Plenty of time too. Won't they have to agree a fee with Stoke in case of a replay?

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« Reply #8 on December 07, 2015, 08:12:44 pm by drfchound »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.




All anyone has to do to get in their usual areas is to get to the game in good time.

Bristol Red Rover

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« Reply #9 on December 07, 2015, 08:15:53 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
All anyone has to do to get in their usual areas is to get to the game in good time.

...*if* it's unallocated.

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« Reply #10 on December 07, 2015, 08:18:12 pm by RedJ »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

The club need to stick by unallocated seating, then the atmosphere should sort itself out.

Only thing is, every week there's people rock up at 2:57 and saunter up towards the back of the stand despite the place they intend to stand being full. On several occasions I've had people stand directly in front of me, on the very same row. It'd be chaos if you get this on top of a ton of extra people wanting to just sit and watch the game.

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« Reply #11 on December 07, 2015, 08:31:25 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

The club need to stick by unallocated seating, then the atmosphere should sort itself out.

Only thing is, every week there's people rock up at 2:57 and saunter up towards the back of the stand despite the place they intend to stand being full. On several occasions I've had people stand directly in front of me, on the very same row. It'd be chaos if you get this on top of a ton of extra people wanting to just sit and watch the game.

Are you one of those people who always sit down where you know people will stand?

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« Reply #12 on December 07, 2015, 08:32:34 pm by drfchound »
If anyone stood in front of me on the SAME row i would make sure they moved.

RedJ

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« Reply #13 on December 07, 2015, 09:05:00 pm by RedJ »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

The club need to stick by unallocated seating, then the atmosphere should sort itself out.

Only thing is, every week there's people rock up at 2:57 and saunter up towards the back of the stand despite the place they intend to stand being full. On several occasions I've had people stand directly in front of me, on the very same row. It'd be chaos if you get this on top of a ton of extra people wanting to just sit and watch the game.

Are you one of those people who always sit down where you know people will stand?

No. I stand myself. That's what I'm saying - people then stand in front of my while I AM standing because they've decided to turn up right before kick off rather than bother to get a good place by coming earlier and then end up virtually stood on my f**king feet and make it almost impossible to have a decent view of the pitch.

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« Reply #14 on December 08, 2015, 06:41:45 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Can't see this game selling out. 11 thousand home fans. Not a chance. Unreserved keep it at that.

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« Reply #15 on December 08, 2015, 07:22:30 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
There's no reason why the Black Bank should be interfered with for this or any game. It's here to stay and occasions like this can only help us to bring the good times back.

The tie is good enough to attract a good number should we not make a cock up of the pricing, which I don't think they will.

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« Reply #16 on December 08, 2015, 07:49:52 pm by normal rules »
Away end sell out and a gate of 12,000+ surely? Black bank will be rocking.

Interesting issue raised with this. Will it be tickets for seats or the stand? I really hope the Black Bank doesn't get flooded with the usual wannabe librarians. The club need to ensure we have a significant singing section. Just having a sell out doesn't equal a good atmosphere, nowhere near, as we have seen many times before.

The club need to stick by unallocated seating, then the atmosphere should sort itself out.

Only thing is, every week there's people rock up at 2:57 and saunter up towards the back of the stand despite the place they intend to stand being full. On several occasions I've had people stand directly in front of me, on the very same row. It'd be chaos if you get this on top of a ton of extra people wanting to just sit and watch the game.
Isn't this the main reason people wanted unallocated seating. No one will admit this of course.

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« Reply #17 on December 08, 2015, 09:52:02 pm by Filo »
It's the selfish attitude coming out again, after having a long debate regarding the standing issues, the general concensus was that if you wanted to sit down go to the front. Thats all well and good, but at the last two home games two people have stood right at the front waving giant flags throughout the game, thus obscuring the view of the people that were told to sit at the front if they want to sit down. Wave the flags in front of the standers, not the people that have been displaced.

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« Reply #18 on December 08, 2015, 10:02:46 pm by normal rules »
Un reserved  seating does not mean 40 people can stand in a row of 20 seats.
This is what stewards should be sorting out.

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« Reply #19 on December 08, 2015, 11:01:56 pm by Copps is Magic »
For all league games this season there has only been standing on the top 7 or 8 rows. I know this because I stand 7 rows down and I'm always the first one standing. People fully have the choice to sit or stand in the middle of the South Stand and have an unobstructed view (they are not just reserved for the front and no one has ever told anyone  that's the only place people can sit). And they absolutely do have a choice because it is never anywhere near full.

Two people were waving flags at the front of the stand for the Rochdale game for about 30 minutes of the second half to try and drum up some atmosphere. It's happened sporadically in other games usually when a flag waver goes to the toilet. To say it's happened throughout two home games is an exaggeration.

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« Reply #20 on December 08, 2015, 11:40:18 pm by andysly »
Hardly the most exciting draw of the round. Doubt if we will get near 10,000

Yeah of the 63 other teams left there was at least 50 more unexciting fixtures we could have had.........

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« Reply #21 on December 08, 2015, 11:53:10 pm by Dagenham Rover »
Well the real answer is standing is not allowed at all seater stadia so if I happened to be sitting 3 rows from the back and someone was standing in in front of me and I complained the stewards should tell them to sit down   :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) is that enough smilys but the theory is correct

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« Reply #22 on December 09, 2015, 01:30:17 am by bpoolrover »
Filo there is lots of room to sit down anywhere in the south,if I wanted to sit down and people were trying get a atmosphere going I would simply move it would take 30 seconds

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« Reply #23 on December 09, 2015, 08:33:33 am by Filo »
Filo there is lots of room to sit down anywhere in the south,if I wanted to sit down and people were trying get a atmosphere going I would simply move it would take 30 seconds

You miss my point, throughout the debate just after these arrangements were made people were voicing concerns that they wished to be sat down, they were told by a number of people, nastily in some cases to go and sit near the front if they want to sit down. That is what seemed to have happened, but along comes two people and they start waving giant flags in front of the people that were displaced and were told to go near the front to be seated, meanwhile the standers can see the game because they are above the hieght of the flags, shouldn't the flag wavers that are stood up be stood directly in front of the standers?

Or should the people that have been forced to go to the front be forced to move again?

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« Reply #24 on December 09, 2015, 09:09:25 am by Copps is Magic »
You might have a point to debate about the flag wavers if the other part of what you're saying is true. It isn't.

No one has been forced anywhere. Its unallocated seating

People can sit anywhere in top half of the stand, in the top rows to the side of the singers, or at the front. There's been plenty of room in all 3 this season plus the fact that stewards ask standers to move if someone wants to sit - and they usually do.

If Chesterfield is the example then the SS was probably 1/3rd full. If you cant find somewhere sensible to sit you really are just being petty for the sake of it.



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« Reply #25 on December 09, 2015, 09:12:58 am by the vicar »
I was talking to the ticket office yesterday and onless the game looks like a sell out it will be sit anywhere and tickets could go on sale go on sale as early as monday

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« Reply #26 on December 09, 2015, 10:18:12 am by PopStander »
The core Black Bank lads go Hyde Park Club for a drink before the game (The lads and lasses with the drum and all the flags) this has been put out there for anyone to come join us!

We get to the ground around 2:30, usually have a beer in the ground then walk up, we don't have a 'right' to walk up and have our usual place, BUT it is like the Pop Stand at Belle Vue no matter what time you got to the ground, the lads who sang had their usual spot behind the scaffolding! This is happening in the South Stand, a lot of young lads go then move down (Without being asked) as they know we are the lads who start all the songs and bring the flags etc! No one has moaned before and I think the atmosphere is pretty good because of it!!

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« Reply #27 on December 09, 2015, 10:28:10 am by Dagenham Rover »
You might have a point to debate about the flag wavers if the other part of what you're saying is true. It isn't.

No one has been forced anywhere. Its unallocated seating

People can sit anywhere in top half of the stand, in the top rows to the side of the singers, or at the front. There's been plenty of room in all 3 this season plus the fact that stewards ask standers to move if someone wants to sit - and they usually do.

If Chesterfield is the example then the SS was probably 1/3rd full. If you cant find somewhere sensible to sit you really are just being petty for the sake of it.





1, actually people were forced out of the seats they had occupied since the KMS opened at the beginning of the season

2, you are  trying to tell people where they can and can't sit  at this point in time its unreserved seating  ;) ;)

3, I refer you to answer 2 you are trying to tell people where they can and can't sit

Now whilst I agree most regulars know, but there will always be a non regular/first time visitor that gets there early and sits at the top centre only to end up surrounded by people standing 5 minutes before kick off and at the end of it why should they move after all its unreserved seating   :)

Yes I'm being pedantic but you started by saying    "if the other part of what you're saying is true. It isn't"    it is  :)


However its all great improvement
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Copps is Magic

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« Reply #28 on December 09, 2015, 10:43:39 am by Copps is Magic »
Dagenham, I go with my family. They don't like to stand with all the rough kids in the middle. I do. They go one block along and find perfectly good seats and sit down (usually higher up than me may I add). It's amazing what a feat of common sense can achieve.

And you are also wrong, there's been plenty of times this season where people have got there early and wanted to sit. And as I pointed out, the stewards fit the standers around them. I know because I've witnessed it many times.

Thirdly, it was a club decision to make the SS unallocated. Individuals are not going round telling other people where to sit.


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« Reply #29 on December 09, 2015, 10:59:32 am by RedJ »
The core Black Bank lads go Hyde Park Club for a drink before the game (The lads and lasses with the drum and all the flags) this has been put out there for anyone to come join us!

We get to the ground around 2:30, usually have a beer in the ground then walk up, we don't have a 'right' to walk up and have our usual place, BUT it is like the Pop Stand at Belle Vue no matter what time you got to the ground, the lads who sang had their usual spot behind the scaffolding! This is happening in the South Stand, a lot of young lads go then move down (Without being asked) as they know we are the lads who start all the songs and bring the flags etc! No one has moaned before and I think the atmosphere is pretty good because of it!!

I've no issue with any of this. My issue is when people try to stand in a place that's already occupied by someone who is also standing.

 

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