Doncaster Town Centre

[rtid88]

Just been in the bus station in Doncaster town centre and what can I say other than what an utter disgrace! This town, this country is just at a state of unrepairable damage!!!

[IDM]

what's happened?

[Sammy Chung was King]

Full of druggy s..thouses when i have been. A dirty discheveled, run down shanty town, in the town centre. They improve the outsides as people come into our town, how about working they're way in now, and improving the streets, railway, bus station etc?.

[Donnywolf]

That's what Osborne meant by Northern Poor House

[rtid88]

Sammy said it perfectly! Its just a horrid horrid place! Just one of a number of things that I saw was 2 women that are supposed to be Mums who were clearly smacked off their tits with their 2 young kids running riot at 11 o clock at night. I dread going into the town centre these days it's just an awful place to be.

[MrFrost]

Full of druggy s..thouses when i have been. A dirty discheveled, run down shanty town, in the town centre. They improve the outsides as people come into our town, how about working they're way in now, and improving the streets, railway, bus station etc?.

You must have missed the recent investment into the town.

There is nothing wrong with it. Visit it the rest of the towns and cities in South Yorkshire. Doncaster is gleaming in comparison.

[rtid88]

Don't know what part of town your going to Mr Frost but please let me know. Investment in buildings and shop fronts does not change the chavvy scumbags that populate them.

[RobTheRover]

Frosty, in comparison Barnsley Town Centre is far better. You don't know how much that hurts to admit.

[MrFrost]

Frosty, in comparison Barnsley Town Centre is far better. You don't know how much that hurts to admit.

In what way? The last time I went, someone was shooting up in full view of the general public in broad daylight.

[RobTheRover]

Not seen anything like that but there is a major town centre regeneration going on. Not too many empty shop units. Walking down Baxtergate  the other day was like walking through downtown Beirut

[MrFrost]

Not seen anything like that but there is a major town centre regeneration going on. Not too many empty shop units. Walking down Baxtergate  the other day was like walking through downtown Beirut

It isn't anywhere near the size as Doncastser town centre, and it doesn't have anywhere near as many shops.

Look at the millions being invested in Waterdale and the projects that are being proposed for Doncaster

[RobTheRover]

I walked through waterdale  the other day too.  That's a tip.

[MrFrost]

I walked through waterdale  the other day too.  That's a tip.

No I know you must be taking the piss, because if you did you'd have seen the new independent and niche shops that have opened there, the new shopping development being constructed as well as the new theatre, square, offices and cinema etc that is under construction.

I'll leave you to wax lyrical about Barnsley.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Frosty, in comparison Barnsley Town Centre is far better. You don't know how much that hurts to admit.

Working in barnsley I can't agree - I do like our office there though. It's nothing like as good. It is smaller which helps in some ways but it's certainly no better than Doncaster.

The problem here is only some parts have been developed. Still a lot of work to be done.

[rtid88]

I walked through waterdale  the other day too.  That's a tip.

No I know you must be taking the piss, because if you did you'd have seen the new independent and niche shops that have opened there, the new shopping development being constructed as well as the new theatre, square, offices and cinema etc that is under construction.

I'll leave you to wax lyrical about Barnsley.

Again how does any of this change the people that frequent them?? They could spend a billion pounds on new buildings but it doesn't change the fact that Doncaster is full of scrounging, druggy scumbags!

[MrFrost]

I walked through waterdale  the other day too.  That's a tip.

No I know you must be taking the piss, because if you did you'd have seen the new independent and niche shops that have opened there, the new shopping development being constructed as well as the new theatre, square, offices and cinema etc that is under construction.

I'll leave you to wax lyrical about Barnsley.

Again how does any of this change the people that frequent them?? They could spend a billion pounds on new buildings but it doesn't change the fact that Doncaster is full of scrounging, druggy scumbags!

Full of them? How many of them are there?

[rtid88]

Are you just arguing for arguing sakes Mr Frost, your the only one that is not seeing exactly what is in front of your face. Walking through Doncaster Town Centre is a horrid experience, yes it might not be the worst in the country and yes there are obviously decent folk too however there is a clear problem that has been within our communities for a significant period of time. Each generation though is only learning from what they see from their parents.

[MrFrost]

Are you just arguing for arguing sakes Mr Frost, your the only one that is not seeing exactly what is in front of your face. Walking through Doncaster Town Centre is a horrid experience, yes it might not be the worst in the country and yes there are obviously decent folk too however there is a clear problem that has been within our communities for a significant period of time. Each generation though is only learning from what they see from their parents.

I visit town regularly, and yes there are one or two unsavoury characters lurking around, but certainly it isn't "full of them". Visit any large town or city, and there are people who act in this way. Doncaster isn't exclusive.

[RedJ]

Think it's fashionable these days to think the place you're from is a shit hole and can't wait to escape.

[rtid88]

Born and bred in Doncaster and lived here for all of my 33 years and I will probably live here for the rest of it but I can categorically say it gets worse each year! Just glad I don't need to go into the town centre very often.

[MrFrost]

Born and bred in Doncaster and lived here for all of my 33 years and I will probably live here for the rest of it but I can categorically say it gets worse each year! Just glad I don't need to go into the town centre very often.

That's your opinion.

I go into town often and never see any bother.

[mushRTID]

Accrington wasn't any better if it makes you feel better

[DonnyOsmond]

I've been to Durham recently and that looked amazing in comparison.

[RobTheRover]

Frosty, how is the new job at the Doncaster Tourist Board going?  Might go better if you take off the blindfold.

[MrFrost]

Frosty, how is the new job at the Doncaster Tourist Board going?  Might go better if you take off the blindfold.

I work in London.

Like I said earlier, you've clearly walked round Donny with your eyes shut. Enjoy Barnsley. You suit the place

[Bentley Bullet]

I occasionally go round Donny town centre on a Sunday night. On TWO separate occasions while walking down Priory place there was someone kicking the doors in of shops and nicking stuff. Despite all the cameras, no police were alerted as the culprits just walked away with their swag.

I'd place my starboard knacker on a chopping block if I'd had decided to take a piss in a shop doorway and not had a rapid response police van full of coppers apprehend me within one minute of my offence in similar circumstances.

[Sammy Chung was King]

Not seen anything like that but there is a major town centre regeneration going on. Not too many empty shop units. Walking down Baxtergate  the other day was like walking through downtown Beirut

It isn't anywhere near the size as Doncastser town centre, and it doesn't have anywhere near as many shops.

Look at the millions being invested in Waterdale and the projects that are being proposed for Doncaster

Frosty, have you ever watched the william wallace film, braveheart?. What Edward Longshanks says about scotland, is similar to how i think of people i live around, ''The trouble with scotland, is it's full of scots''!.
Take scotland and scots out of the sentence, and you know how i feel about many of those i live around. When you meet a decent person, it's a novelty, unless you are a druggy, you don't fit in.
The shops aren't the problem, in the frenchgate, yes they are pretty good, compared to other towns. It's the people around the shops who are the problem. You can build a palace on a pile of s..t, but it will still be a pile of s..t!.

The doncaster i remember, was a friendly, happy place on the whole, people went for a drink and enjoyed themselves, letting off steam after a long week of work.
Now it's filled with smackheads, pissheads, or just plain nasty b..tards. If you don't get asked, ''Have you got a fag''?, or ''Can you give me my bus fare home'', by somebody high as a kite, then you have walked through a 'wonderful world tunnel'!.
People can do what they want with drugs or whatever, but i don't want them round me, i have seen the devastation they mete out, i don't want that type of person anywhere near me.
This is not a problem only donny faces, the whole country faces it, no values, no idea of right and wrong, no respect for others space. People bringing up ignorant little b..tards, who plague the neighbourhood, they live in.

I'm not perfect, i'm no saint, but i had manners, values and knew right from wrong when i was a kid. All i was interested in was playing sport, keeping fit and helping anybody out if i could.
These days, people who sit on the floor asking if ''You can spare some change'', half of them aren't homeless. When i was younger anybody who did that was. As it is i just assume they are, and give them as much as i can, because i would want others to help me.
I don't like to see anybody without, if i can help, most would feel cheated, but as cynical as i am i give the benefit of the doubt.

[MrFrost]

Not seen anything like that but there is a major town centre regeneration going on. Not too many empty shop units. Walking down Baxtergate  the other day was like walking through downtown Beirut

It isn't anywhere near the size as Doncastser town centre, and it doesn't have anywhere near as many shops.

Look at the millions being invested in Waterdale and the projects that are being proposed for Doncaster

Frosty, have you ever watched the william wallace film, braveheart?. What Edward Longshanks says about scotland, is similar to how i think of people i live around, ''The trouble with scotland, is it's full of scots''!.
Take scotland and scots out of the sentence, and you know how i feel about many of those i live around. When you meet a decent person, it's a novelty, unless you are a druggy, you don't fit in.
The shops aren't the problem, in the frenchgate, yes they are pretty good, compared to other towns. It's the people around the shops who are the problem. You can build a palace on a pile of s..t, but it will still be a pile of s..t!.

The doncaster i remember, was a friendly, happy place on the whole, people went for a drink and enjoyed themselves, letting off steam after a long week of work.
Now it's filled with smackheads, pissheads, or just plain nasty b..tards. If you don't get asked, ''Have you got a fag''?, or ''Can you give me my bus fare home'', by somebody high as a kite, then you have walked through a 'wonderful world tunnel'!.
People can do what they want with drugs or whatever, but i don't want them round me, i have seen the devastation they mete out, i don't want that type of person anywhere near me.
This is not a problem only donny faces, the whole country faces it, no values, no idea of right and wrong, no respect for others space. People bringing up ignorant little b..tards, who plague the neighbourhood, they live in.

I'm not perfect, i'm no saint, but i had manners, values and knew right from wrong when i was a kid. All i was interested in was playing sport, keeping fit and helping anybody out if i could.
These days, people who sit on the floor asking if ''You can spare some change'', half of them aren't homeless. When i was younger anybody who did that was. As it is i just assume they are, and give them as much as i can, because i would want others to help me.
I don't like to see anybody without, if i can help, most would feel cheated, but as cynical as i am i give the benefit of the doubt.

I wouldn't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, but I prefer to focus on the positives rather than negatives.

Rob seems to think Barnsley is some kind of Shangri La. It will be no different to Doncaster with regards to social issues.

[Donnywolf]

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This is not a problem only donny faces, the whole country faces it, no values, no idea of right and wrong, no respect for others space. People bringing up ignorant little b..tards, who plague the neighbourhood, they live in.

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That one sentence goes right to the heart of the discussion / problem

100% correct

[DonnyOsmond]

Frenchgate is OK, not amazing. The rest of the centre is a bit shit, the High Street is full of banks. Waterdale shopping bit is improving the straight walk to Civic area is nice and has a couple of nice cafes, the sideways bit is terrible. They're also on about building a cinema, etc so hopefully that area improves. I've seen also they were on about building at the Waterfront and over the North Bridge some restaurants and shops, that'd be nice. Overall though at the moment it's untidy and depressing.