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Sad I can't recall an occasion when we Doncaster town council has permitted the Army to parade a dozen armoured vehicles through the town centre let alone park them up outside the mansion house or new town hall,the Town Council has far less enthusiasm when it comes to rememberance day compared to Barnsley.
2012 how many Minden days was that ago?
Can't say I've seen any behaviour like that on this thread Glyn?
Quote from: IDM on August 16, 2016, 09:17:59 amCan't say I've seen any behaviour like that on this thread Glyn?I didn't say there had been. But it's what it's like in Barnsley.Now, I don't agree with Help For Heroes. My stance is that what they do should be being done by the government who employed the service personnel in the first place. Help For Heroes - although they mean well and do good work - allow government after government to abandon their obligations because they know charities will take up the slack so they can continue to just abandon ex-service men and women to their fate. I believe there shouldn't be any Help For Heroes-type because there should be a need for any, and government should be pressured into doing what they should be doing in the first place. And because of that stance, which I think is a reasonable one to have, I don't contribute (I prefer animal charities personally) - and because of that I've been abused as 'not supporting our boys' (I even had one call me a traitor!) by some of those who fill the description of 'armchair soldiers' I used above.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2016, 05:07:12 pmQuote from: IDM on August 16, 2016, 09:17:59 amCan't say I've seen any behaviour like that on this thread Glyn?I didn't say there had been. But it's what it's like in Barnsley.Now, I don't agree with Help For Heroes. My stance is that what they do should be being done by the government who employed the service personnel in the first place. Help For Heroes - although they mean well and do good work - allow government after government to abandon their obligations because they know charities will take up the slack so they can continue to just abandon ex-service men and women to their fate. I believe there shouldn't be any Help For Heroes-type because there should be a need for any, and government should be pressured into doing what they should be doing in the first place. And because of that stance, which I think is a reasonable one to have, I don't contribute (I prefer animal charities personally) - and because of that I've been abused as 'not supporting our boys' (I even had one call me a traitor!) by some of those who fill the description of 'armchair soldiers' I used above.I agree that the government should negate the need for help for heroes..An injured soldier said on breakfast this a few years ago - Heroes don't come home!
Quote from: IDM on August 16, 2016, 05:52:42 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on August 16, 2016, 05:07:12 pmQuote from: IDM on August 16, 2016, 09:17:59 amCan't say I've seen any behaviour like that on this thread Glyn?I didn't say there had been. But it's what it's like in Barnsley.Now, I don't agree with Help For Heroes. My stance is that what they do should be being done by the government who employed the service personnel in the first place. Help For Heroes - although they mean well and do good work - allow government after government to abandon their obligations because they know charities will take up the slack so they can continue to just abandon ex-service men and women to their fate. I believe there shouldn't be any Help For Heroes-type because there should be a need for any, and government should be pressured into doing what they should be doing in the first place. And because of that stance, which I think is a reasonable one to have, I don't contribute (I prefer animal charities personally) - and because of that I've been abused as 'not supporting our boys' (I even had one call me a traitor!) by some of those who fill the description of 'armchair soldiers' I used above.I agree that the government should negate the need for help for heroes..An injured soldier said on breakfast this a few years ago - Heroes don't come home!Reminds me of a line from Steptoe & Son back in the 60s, it went something like 'They promised us homes fit for heroes, all we got was heroes fit for a home'.