If John Ryan was still at the club...

[Syme]

Please enlighten me as to how you're intending to view this alternate reality?

I'm certainly all ears.

Although actually, on second thoughts, no thanks. Mine was a light hearted aside, I don't want to get into a JR-Messiah-Naughty Boy type debate. Not today anyway.

[PDX_Rover]

In my world Alfie rose Toshack-like, like the proverbial salmon to head the ball home Duggie bullet header style... nurse, more medicinal cannabis please.

[selby]

PDX that  description was exactly as I saw it too,poetic  licence and rose tinted glasses,but well done Alfie GET IN.

[Susan Abbott]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .


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[wilts rover]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

[silent majority]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .


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He didn't want to leave it in 'the right hands' though did he? He actively tried to bring in a hedge fund company, once in full public knowledge, and a second occasion where he hoodwinked individuals and supporters alike by dressing it up as a friendly takeover and a partnership with Louis Tomlinson.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Oh, let's not start all this again! Forwards not backwards please!

[Syme]

Agreed DonnyBazR0ver
We're ticking along very nicely, we don't need to rehash this tired old debate. It can never end well

[silent majority]

Its not a debate. Correcting someone's misinformation is all it is.

[Syme]

 

[Susan Abbott]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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[DearneValleyRover]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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Sorry, Susan I don't want to open old wounds again but that isn't the truth.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Syme, at sometime in the future I think we will know, and it will probably surprise a few.We will just have to wait and see.

Please enlighten me as to how you're intending to view this alternate reality?

He'll be using the old 2*(Bentley Bullet)/square root of BST in a tardis formula

[Rovers Return]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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https://youtu.be/ASvYzbIysAY

[Susan Abbott]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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https://youtu.be/ASvYzbIysAY

Something's don't change ignorance before debate .


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[RedJ]

The irony...

[PDX_Rover]

Bring back Flockton Grey I say!

[Rovers Return]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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https://youtu.be/ASvYzbIysAY

Something's don't change ignorance before debate .


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https://youtu.be/plZRe1kPWZw

[Syme]

2 years on and it's still inevitable.

[RedJ]

Amazing how much money Terry Brammall pumped into something he apparently never really wanted a part of. Incredible that a savvy businessman like him would do that, eh...

[Goole Rover]

Yes JR did a great deal for the club and along with others rescued the club but I believe that the majority of us would have done the same for the club that we love had we had the resources. I liken JR to Dickie Bird, always blowing his own trumpet. I will never forgive JR for the way he behaved shortly before the kick off at Barnsley, a cruel publicity stunt. Then there was the McKay farce. Our current owners sit quietly in the background with a positive outlook we should be thankful.

[drfchound]

JR also did a massive amount to raise the profile of the club too.

[ravenrover]

If JR was still at the club? DW and TB wouldn't

[Sammy Chung was King]

If John Ryan hadn't stepped in we probably wouldn't be discussing it now because there is a good chance we wouldn't have this forum. When we were as near to finished as you can be John and many other staff from back then worked hard to win us some respect in the football world.
Terry and Dick added to that and have more than deserved their share of any credit.
I think most of us didn't agree with how he wanted to take the club forward with his takeover it didn't happen anyway so all i am left with is gratitude that we have a club to support. The man who put his hand in his pocket and risked his money was John Ryan. There are plenty of people with money in Doncaster did they all do the same?-no. He deserves respect for what he achieved in my opinion.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

As time progresses, let's hope opinions mellow and there emerges an acceptance that without John Ryan, without Terry Bramall, without Dick Watson we could have been dead and buried.

There's unlikely to be an era like the one JR started when so much was achieved in a short time. It was magical.

Unfortunately all good things come to an end and to follow that was always going to be difficult but perhaps that period of success masked the weak foundations of the club. A rebuilding job was needed and whilst our league standing has suffered during construction, we are now beginning to see the benefits of solid foundations that will see us prosper.

All of the owners have played a vital part in our success (and failures) and in time I hope they'll be equally celebrated as such in our history. 

[not on facebook]

I find it sad that john Ryan has never been seen at a rovers game since he left the club.

Is it his choice for the above ,or is there some stuff that went off behind the scenes that has kept him away.

Maybe rovers can be the first ever football club to have a testimonial for a former chairman and I guess JR would pass any income onto whatever charity .

If you had that chap from one direction turning out ,that would add a good 1000 to the gate .

[drfchound]

That is an excellent idea NOF, will it ever happen i wonder?

[not on facebook]

After reading throu this thread JR did great things for DRFC and it seems he made a bit of a pigs ear towards the end of his days at DRFC.

But the end of his time will never take away what he did when rovers needed someone to step up at its worst times.

DRFC went from conference back into the football league and from BV to KMS under JRs watch.there was both good and bad times under JR ,but mostly great times.

I find it sad that he has never set foot back at the KMS since he left under a cloud.might be a tad late now but with rovers getting promotion this term ,the wellcome back red carpet should be rolled out for JR at the last home game this season.

Just think how you all would feal if JR should pass away for whatever reason and I bet my last dollars that there be a massive outcry from all and sundry connected with DRFC and not one bad word said about him.

Get JR back at the KMS for the home games and let him walk pitchside
and soak it in if needs be.

[Nudga]

They say "never meet your heroes ". This was certainly true for me when I met him.

[Iberian Red]

If John Ryan was still at the club, John Marquis would be getting a Bentley in a few weeks time!
Joking aside, was really worried we'd buggered it up today 'til Grimsby ran out of steam and was glad we'd paced ourselves. Glad for Andy Williams finally getting a bit of luck. Great day out!

Your forgetting we owe it ALL to JR . He may have reluctantly left the club but he left it in the right hands and it was him who brought this board of directors together .
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Really? I believe Gavin Baldwin is the only director who was in place when John Ryan 'reluctantly left'. Bramall and Dick Watson had both resigned by that time - rejoining after he left - and they recruited Blunt and Andrew Watson.

John Ryan did a lot of good for Rovers, to put it mildly, and we owe him a huge debt for that and for the good times he brought. But trying to mythologise his legacy and claim credit for where we are now is more 'alternate fact' than actual fact.

Say it any way you like Gavin Was JRs solution to an indifferent board . The board wouldn't spend money to keep
their place in The Championship . We are financially in a better place but it's about time the club recognises they inherited a sound foundation with a loyal fan base who worshiped him . Terry Bramall has never really wanted to be part of this but until JR was gone . I think the South stand should be named after him in recognition.


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Can we name another stand after Ant and Dec?