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Why did Murrant leave?
have a look at the "all time" figuresleague position - average attendancerovers - 64th - 7061luton - 44th - 10317argyle - 49th - 12301lincoln - 61st - 5606that includes seasons out of the football league, as 10th in the conference equates to a position of 102nd or whateverso, by the numbers, we're pretty much on a par lincoln but can forget competing with the other twoother factors - trophies won, relative quality of players based on something quantitive like the total number of international caps won while at each club, possibly - but i can't quite be arsed to work all that out right nowhowever, what can be said absolutely unequivocally is that red and white hoops are a far, far better kit than green, orange, or whatever lincoln might be poncing about in, so on that basis, they can all get to f**k, really....;-)
Quote from: IDM on April 03, 2017, 10:48:13 pmI don't think the Mansfield fixture itself needs marketing at all, nor any individual match.Anyone with a passing interest in Doncaster Roves can easily find out about the fixture and how to get a ticket. We managed well enough in the days before the internet and social media, so can do so now.Where marketing promotions can and would help, IMHO, is if there is a ticket offer on. That is a different matter altogether.That's very naive.
I don't think the Mansfield fixture itself needs marketing at all, nor any individual match.Anyone with a passing interest in Doncaster Roves can easily find out about the fixture and how to get a ticket. We managed well enough in the days before the internet and social media, so can do so now.Where marketing promotions can and would help, IMHO, is if there is a ticket offer on. That is a different matter altogether.
Right thanks for those stats Herman. It's a shame Mr Frost can't come up with anything at all to substansiate his statements.
Quote from: Herman Hessian on April 04, 2017, 12:00:35 amhave a look at the "all time" figuresleague position - average attendancerovers - 64th - 7061luton - 44th - 10317argyle - 49th - 12301lincoln - 61st - 5606that includes seasons out of the football league, as 10th in the conference equates to a position of 102nd or whateverso, by the numbers, we're pretty much on a par lincoln but can forget competing with the other twoother factors - trophies won, relative quality of players based on something quantitive like the total number of international caps won while at each club, possibly - but i can't quite be arsed to work all that out right nowhowever, what can be said absolutely unequivocally is that red and white hoops are a far, far better kit than green, orange, or whatever lincoln might be poncing about in, so on that basis, they can all get to f**k, really....;-)Right thanks for those stats Herman. It's a shame Mr Frost can't come up with anything at all to substansiate his statements.
Quote from: MrFrost on April 03, 2017, 10:53:22 pmQuote from: IDM on April 03, 2017, 10:48:13 pmI don't think the Mansfield fixture itself needs marketing at all, nor any individual match.Anyone with a passing interest in Doncaster Roves can easily find out about the fixture and how to get a ticket. We managed well enough in the days before the internet and social media, so can do so now.Where marketing promotions can and would help, IMHO, is if there is a ticket offer on. That is a different matter altogether.That's very naive. No, it isn't..What were our average attendances in seasons 1980/81 and 1984/85?I can't vouch for the source quickly but one place I found http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/donr.htm suggests 5412 and 4103 respectively.In each of those seasons we had a "big" game, the promotion clincher vs Bournemouth in 1981 with 11,373 there http://www.11v11.com/matches/doncaster-rovers-v-afc-bournemouth-02-may-1981-46421And in 1985 our biggest game for a decade was the FA Cup tie vs QPR, when 10,583 were there. http://www.thestar.co.uk/retro/retro-1985-cup-run-for-doncaster-rovers-1-6697062I was at both games, as many on here would be too. Both fixtures doubled the average attendances and no social media marketing etc.
Quote from: IDM on April 04, 2017, 08:20:08 amQuote from: MrFrost on April 03, 2017, 10:53:22 pmQuote from: IDM on April 03, 2017, 10:48:13 pmI don't think the Mansfield fixture itself needs marketing at all, nor any individual match.Anyone with a passing interest in Doncaster Roves can easily find out about the fixture and how to get a ticket. We managed well enough in the days before the internet and social media, so can do so now.Where marketing promotions can and would help, IMHO, is if there is a ticket offer on. That is a different matter altogether.That's very naive. No, it isn't..What were our average attendances in seasons 1980/81 and 1984/85?I can't vouch for the source quickly but one place I found http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/donr.htm suggests 5412 and 4103 respectively.In each of those seasons we had a "big" game, the promotion clincher vs Bournemouth in 1981 with 11,373 there http://www.11v11.com/matches/doncaster-rovers-v-afc-bournemouth-02-may-1981-46421And in 1985 our biggest game for a decade was the FA Cup tie vs QPR, when 10,583 were there. http://www.thestar.co.uk/retro/retro-1985-cup-run-for-doncaster-rovers-1-6697062I was at both games, as many on here would be too. Both fixtures doubled the average attendances and no social media marketing etc. So are you suggesting that social media marketing will have zero effect on attendances? That is simply not correct. If it wasn't effective there would be no point to it.
Quote from: MrFrost on April 04, 2017, 09:25:54 amQuote from: IDM on April 04, 2017, 08:20:08 amQuote from: MrFrost on April 03, 2017, 10:53:22 pmQuote from: IDM on April 03, 2017, 10:48:13 pmI don't think the Mansfield fixture itself needs marketing at all, nor any individual match.Anyone with a passing interest in Doncaster Roves can easily find out about the fixture and how to get a ticket. We managed well enough in the days before the internet and social media, so can do so now.Where marketing promotions can and would help, IMHO, is if there is a ticket offer on. That is a different matter altogether.That's very naive. No, it isn't..What were our average attendances in seasons 1980/81 and 1984/85?I can't vouch for the source quickly but one place I found http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/donr.htm suggests 5412 and 4103 respectively.In each of those seasons we had a "big" game, the promotion clincher vs Bournemouth in 1981 with 11,373 there http://www.11v11.com/matches/doncaster-rovers-v-afc-bournemouth-02-may-1981-46421And in 1985 our biggest game for a decade was the FA Cup tie vs QPR, when 10,583 were there. http://www.thestar.co.uk/retro/retro-1985-cup-run-for-doncaster-rovers-1-6697062I was at both games, as many on here would be too. Both fixtures doubled the average attendances and no social media marketing etc. So are you suggesting that social media marketing will have zero effect on attendances? That is simply not correct. If it wasn't effective there would be no point to it. Err, you are the one saying it does - but presenting no evidence for that statement other than you say so.I can tell you now that social media marketing makes no difference whatsoever to my attendance at Rovers - or any football match. I would be very surprised if it does make a difference to anyone posting on here. Yes it can have a place in attracting the 'floating fan' but so can any kind of marketing/publicity.Where I do think social media has had an effect on out attendances is the negativity that some fans have taken too over the past few seasons has turned people away. Its easier to find a reason not to go than to go.
BB strange isn't it our group followed throughout the years when we were pants I honestly feel that the success we had ruined our long standing fan base, but obviously built up a new layer of fans who then only know our recent history
Quote from: roversdude on April 04, 2017, 06:04:25 amBB strange isn't it our group followed throughout the years when we were pants I honestly feel that the success we had ruined our long standing fan base, but obviously built up a new layer of fans who then only know our recent history Then its worth asking are these new layer 'fans of Doncaster Rovers' or 'fans of Football' . Success will bring increased attendance, as its a lot easier to attract someone to watch a previous years Premiership side than Newport on a Tuesday night as well as more away fans ( think of the spike in away fans getting the Keepmoat in for the first time when we hit the Championship ), but most of these home fans are just customers not supporters and when the going gets tough they will find entertainment elsewhere ( its not Hard to get to a Man City game if you just want to get a few games a season in ) we will pick a few up for the long term but we are never going to be a club that pulls 10k in regularly in for a Fourth Division game in the modern era
It needed a lot less money then though BB.That was a real kick in the teeth for us fans.
Quote from: Move DRFC on April 03, 2017, 11:11:28 pmWhy did Murrant leave?He was shown the door
Quote from: idler on April 04, 2017, 02:39:13 pmIt needed a lot less money then though BB.That was a real kick in the teeth for us fans.Yes it was mate, and EVERYBODY was unanimous about Bates' lack of ambition, when a bit more investment could have kept us in the second tier.