Question for the anti-Corbyn Labourites

[Bentley Bullet]

Who are you gonna vote for?

[Hounslowrover]

Anti-Tory as I'm in a marginal Labour seat. If I lived in the next door constituency of Twickenham or Richmond Park, it would see me vote Lib-Dem.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Labour of course. But Labour are going to get spanked. Thanks Jezza.

[The Red Baron]

Anti-Tory as I'm in a marginal Labour seat. If I lived in the next door constituency of Twickenham or Richmond Park, it would see me vote Lib-Dem.

From that I take it you're in Brentford & Isleworth, which bucked the trend in 2015 by going from Conservative to Labour. Tactical voting perhaps, or did the Lib Dem vote shift to Labour?

[Hounslowrover]

Red Baron you are correct.  We had a good local councillor stand and she was pro-remain, using our house as the committee rooms during the referendum.  The local council has been Labour except for 4 years with the Tories in my 50 years living here.  The Chiswick end is Tory and have often said they would like to be in Hammersmith!!

[i_ateallthepies]

As a disaffected Labour voter I'll be voting LibDem.

[Sprotyrover]

Can't vote for Corbyn so I won't bother.

[tommy toes]

Which of Corbyn's policies upset you so much that you can't vote Labour Sprotyrover?

[Akinfenwa]

Labour.

No one ought to worry about Corbyn. He has no chance of getting in and he'll be gone on the 9th of June. The person who succeeds Corbyn as leader (hopefully someone with their head screwed on) will need all the seats they can get in order to oppose this abysmal government.

[Muttley]

Can't vote for Corbyn so I won't bother.

Unless you live in Islington North, you can't vote for Corbyn

I advise you to vote for the party that has the best chance of winning vs the party you don't want to win.

[i_ateallthepies]

Spot on Muttley, that's why I won't be voting Labour this time.

[Bentley Bullet]

I wonder if BST will be out canvassing for his beloved Labour, despite his condemnation of its leader?

[Nudga]

They're all f**kin liars. f**k the establishment!

[RedJ]

I wonder if BST will be out canvassing for his beloved Labour, despite his condemnation of its leader?

Lucky that you vote for an MP rather than the party leader in a general election, eh?

[Bentley Bullet]

Labour should have no problem then eh!

[Susan Abbott]

Who are you gonna vote for?

It's not a question of not voting Labour , I'm a card carrying Labour supporter and I will voting for Labour , it's about getting Labour first  in then Corbyn out .


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[BobG]

I'm voting tactically - and anti Corbyn. I like a lot of his policies but the bloke is totally and completely unelectable. LibDems round here are the only real opposition to the Tories - even though I haven't forgiven them for the school fees debacle and propping up those two high grade disasters.

BobG

[not on facebook]

If so many people can see that corbyn is not the correct leader ,why is he still the Labour leader ffs.

It's a fcuked up party when it takes a snap election brought in by the main opposition party that in turn looks like the knock on effect will be corbyn been shown the door.

Why the fcuk can't Labour sort it's own house out first ,as they must know what many are saying about corbyn.

So they sleepwalk along doing bugger all with a 'it will be all right jack' attitude ,and they want you to vote them into number 10 .

The whole lot of them are fcuking clueless

[The Red Baron]

The voting rules brought in under Ed Miliband mean that the members have a huge say in who becomes Labour leader. Previously the unions and the PLP had a much bigger proportion of the vote.

Traditionally the membership is more left-leaning than the unions or MPs so the system means you are far more likely to get a left-wing leader than before.

This issue will not go away even if Labour loses the GE badly (I'm not convinced the result will be as bad as some people think btw.) Corbyn would probably stand down, but his replacement is likely to be on the left of the party.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The voting rules brought in under Ed Miliband mean that the members have a huge say in who becomes Labour leader. Previously the unions and the PLP had a much bigger proportion of the vote.

Traditionally the membership is more left-leaning than the unions or MPs so the system means you are far more likely to get a left-wing leader than before.

This issue will not go away even if Labour loses the GE badly (I'm not convinced the result will be as bad as some people think btw.) Corbyn would probably stand down, but his replacement is likely to be on the left of the party.

That could rather depend on who's still got a seat in Parliament!

[wesisback]

It'll certainly be interesting to see if its the centre right Labour MPs who suffer at the polls or the further left. I know if I was based in Don Valley I'd struggle to out an X next to Flints name. As it stands I have Rosie Winterton who is a fantastic MP and deserves every vote she gets.

[Yargo]

It'll certainly be interesting to see if its the centre right Labour MPs who suffer at the polls or the further left. I know if I was based in Don Valley I'd struggle to out an X next to Flints name. As it stands I have Rosie Winterton who is a fantastic MP and deserves every vote she gets.

Two sides of the same arse! Which ones in favour of a second referendum today/this week,which ones for/against unlimited migration?Mind you only took Winterton 12 months to find Hexthorpe after being asked to attend a residents meeting

[RedJ]

Can you really blame anyone for not wanting to go into Hexthorpe?

[bobjimwilly]

Just took a look at the Conservative website. Their #1 Plan is still, apparently, cutting the deficit? Not really gone that well the last 7 years, how do they possibly think they can turn it arround? More cuts? #4 Says they want to cut welfare to benefit those who want to "play by the rules"; do they mean in the same way big business get around paying the right amount of tax? I'm sure people would love to play by those rules!

On their homepage theres a quote from Thatcher [sic],
"we will make Britain a country that works not for a privileged few, but for everyone of us"...



just take a sec to read that again. Does anyone believe this sort of rhetoric? REALLY?
What about those below the poverty line, those in social care, the elderly, public sector workers, nurses, junior doctors, anyone on less than 40k a year? f**king liars.

[BobG]

I see the national debt has doubled since Cameron took office too.

Funny that.

BobG

[Bentley Bullet]

Reflections?.......

[Bentley Bullet]

HELLO......

[selby]

Lots of caff hearted Labour supporters on here before the vote,would not like to be in a trench with some of them.

[Mr1Croft]

Looks like there is plenty of Humble Pie to go around.

I think Corbyn more than proved he is a leader and he is electable. He has just taken on his own party, and everything the Establishment and the Media could throw at him; and he still won 40% of the vote and looks to have got the youth vote up. Something not seen in over 25 years.

The fact the Tories are uniting behind their shambolic leader in fear of taking on Corbyn in another elections speaks volumes about how far he has come.

[Akinfenwa]

Go on then, I'll gladly have a slice!

Three main things I underestimated:

• Corbyn's ability to run a very good campaign, including putting together a manifesto which while radical (by 21st century UK standards) wasn't extreme to the point of alienating most of the electorate. I'm glad that these policies have been put firmly back on the table of mainstream UK politics. He also managed the unthinkable and actually got the younger vote to turnout. Very impressive achievement and could be key in future elections. The pollsters wrote them off right up until polling day ended up getting it wrong, as did I.
  
  
• The electorate. I never really imagined that enough of them would give an unapologetically left leaning party the time of day, especially with the Tory media machine's 'Project Fear' cranked up to full blast. But 12.8 million voted for it, 3.5 million votes up from 2015 and the largest increase of the vote share for Labour since Attlee in 1945! This goes some way to show that standing on such a platform can be credible and not the electoral suicide it was previously thought to have been.
  
  
• How bad Theresa May and her campaign could be. I mean, I knew she was a bit shit but not to this extent. They built the campaign around her, yet she has zero personality and barely came across as human. They also arrogantly thought that they could get away with offering up a half arsed manifesto containing naff all. However despite all that, she did lead her party to a 42.4% vote share and over 2 million more votes than Cameron got in 2015. I've no idea how, but they still did pretty well really in terms of votes and didn't appear to haemorrhage too much support in Labour's direction. Labour were somehow able to stop them by gaining their own surge in support from seemingly nowhere.
  
  

With the Tories having to negotiate the minefield of Brexit, even tougher with a weak minority gov't, the next election looks quite winnable all of a sudden for Labour with plenty of seats back in play. That said, do I still have reservations about whether Corbyn can go to the next step and lead the party into government? Of course, mainly because the baggage from his past will never go away and was his weakness when pressed. I also don't think the Tories will be dumb enough to make the same mistakes twice, but that would be a problem for whoever is up against them.

I wont be making the mistake of writing him off again any time soon though. He should hopefully return to the Commons with a united party who have confidence in his leadership. He more than deserves the opportunity to build on this result and keep the momentum (small 'm') going. And yes, the Tories really don't want another election at the moment. They're vulnerable after suffering shell-shock last week and their discredited leader is now running on life support.