Corbyn & may both live on channel 4 question /answer

[not on facebook]

I personally think that Labour will win this election ,not because I don't like but I just don't trust the polls anymore and would not belive what day it was if they told me.

[DonnyOsmond]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Corbyn's had a bit of a shocker today in this latest interview

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520

HEnce why this should be Tory attack line. Make it look like he is unorganised and can't run things adequately.

And Hammond getting the HS2 figures wrong by £20bn and sticking to it shouldn't be forgotten either.

It shouldn't but strategically it isn't the best thing for labour to use, they almost always lose an economic argument.

[GazLaz]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

[Glyn_Wigley]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

He was asked for the figures, so it was relevant to the answer he was expected to give.

[DonnyOsmond]

Well I'd rather he found out the correct figure and took 2 secs then gave a wrong figure like we've seen from both sides.

[not on facebook]

The higher up you go on the job scale you expect said persons to know they are talking about.

You can't really get any higher as the PM when it comes to importance even thou the pay is not too $$$$.

Corbyn and may have tripped them sens up when asked about the numbers and figures ,even that idiot Abbott made a fool of her self.

What gets my goat is when they know that they have or are fcuking up and swerve the issue and try to deflect their mistake as if it did not happen and we are the idiots who take it in.

For some reason I can't see the likes of my syme or Glynn ever getting caught with their pants down if put in same situations.

Not that bic & boc would ever get my vote .

[Glyn_Wigley]

Do you know, that cheers me up no end.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

I would expect them to yes. It's integral to making the decision.

[Filo]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

I would expect them to yes. It's integral to making the decision.

Would you expect a manifesto to contain full costings, especially when you're saying your  opponents figures don't add up

[albie]

For those who missed it, you can see it on YT.

Here is Supreme Leader May dealing with the audience;
Sky News - May vs Corbyn | Theresa May Answers Audience Questions - YouTube

Apart from ignoring the question from the police officer, the best bit is the midwife at about 14 mins or so, who asks a good question, then takes her out with the reply after being waffled at.

Other sections of the programme in the side bar.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

I would expect them to yes. It's integral to making the decision.

Would you expect a manifesto to contain full costings, especially when you're saying your  opponents figures don't add up

I actually would yes or at least a guide.....

[Filo]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

I would expect them to yes. It's integral to making the decision.

Would you expect a manifesto to contain full costings, especially when you're saying your  opponents figures don't add up

I actually would yes or at least a guide.....

So what are your thoughts on the Conservative manifesto and their lack of costings in relation to the Labour manifesto?

[Filo]

That bloke that claimed he was a salt of the earth Labour supporter then complained about Labour wanting to abolish Zero hour contracts and introducing VAT on his kids school tuition fees, his Net Worth is £91M!

[not on facebook]

Do you know, that cheers me up no end.

It's obvious that we both see things from completely different ends of our day to day life on numerous aspects.

Because I rarely I don't see things the way you do I can't dismiss that you whatever you post is well thought out and researched  and that I tip my hat slightly towrads you.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What's wrong with checking figures? Rather that then guess and get them wrong. I don't expect any leader to know every figure off the top of their heads.

It makes no difference to the policy if he knows the exact figures or not does it.

I would expect them to yes. It's integral to making the decision.

Would you expect a manifesto to contain full costings, especially when you're saying your  opponents figures don't add up

I actually would yes or at least a guide.....

So what are your thoughts on the Conservative manifesto and their lack of costings in relation to the Labour manifesto?

Exactly that? I've already said I think it's a bad move. I know it's radical to the left but you can be critical of the party you favour. Which I certainly am right now.  The Tory campaign hasn't been good enough. But I suspect they'll still win easily.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

That bloke that claimed he was a salt of the earth Labour supporter then complained about Labour wanting to abolish Zero hour contracts and introducing VAT on his kids school tuition fees, his Net Worth is £91M!

And he can still be a labour supporter. He makes a valid point, why should he having made himself successful now feel alienated by a party he's supported because he's successful? Can you only vote labour if poor?

He made a great point on zero hours contracts. They should not be abolished but equally they should be more tightly regulated.  Sadly neither party is doing that.

[Filo]

That bloke that claimed he was a salt of the earth Labour supporter then complained about Labour wanting to abolish Zero hour contracts and introducing VAT on his kids school tuition fees, his Net Worth is £91M!

And he can still be a labour supporter. He makes a valid point, why should he having made himself successful now feel alienated by a party he's supported because he's successful? Can you only vote labour if poor?

He made a great point on zero hours contracts. They should not be abolished but equally they should be more tightly regulated.  Sadly neither party is doing that.

Tell my lad they should n't be abolished, he has n't had any miney for 5 weeks because the company he's supposed to work for has n't given him any hours, despite them advertising vacancies in the area

[Mr1Croft]

For as much as Theresa May has tried to use slogans to build her legacy (Brexit means Brexit, Strong and Stable, Coalition of Chaos, No deal is better than a bad deal) it's a strong possibility that her legacy will be calling an election to strengthen her own position and losing.

She didn't have to call this election, she had a working majority, an opposition in dissaray and 3 more years under the fixed Parliament act. I still can't think why she did it.

Corbyn may lack certain leadership qualities but he's always been an activist. This is a man who has been elected as a trade union official, a local councillor, an MP in the same constituency for 8 consecutive general elections and two Labour Leadership contests. Jeremy Corbyn has a history of being better on the campaign trail than in the dispatch box.

This election has been a massive own goal by Theresa May, and honestly I can't wait to see her face wry in agony on the 9th June as she concedes the election.

[wilts rover]

It's fairly clear that May called the election because of her personal popularity over Corbyn and expected Tory landslide that would give her in a short campaign. What she clearly failed to understand was that the impression that most people have of Corbyn had come from his enemies and that the more people saw of him on his terms they might actually like him - and the more we saw of her the less we might like her.

Put that together with the misjudgement that Labour might actually have some policies that were popular when the Tories didn't have any and when questioned try to take the public for idiots - I think Mrs May's political life will be very short even if she does scrape a win.

Here is a totally partisan Theresa May translator to help you through her next appearance:

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

That bloke that claimed he was a salt of the earth Labour supporter then complained about Labour wanting to abolish Zero hour contracts and introducing VAT on his kids school tuition fees, his Net Worth is £91M!

And he can still be a labour supporter. He makes a valid point, why should he having made himself successful now feel alienated by a party he's supported because he's successful? Can you only vote labour if poor?

He made a great point on zero hours contracts. They should not be abolished but equally they should be more tightly regulated.  Sadly neither party is doing that.

Tell my lad they should n't be abolished, he has n't had any miney for 5 weeks because the company he's supposed to work for has n't given him any hours, despite them advertising vacancies in the area

Again what I talked about, regulation not abolition.

[Glyn_Wigley]

That bloke that claimed he was a salt of the earth Labour supporter then complained about Labour wanting to abolish Zero hour contracts and introducing VAT on his kids school tuition fees, his Net Worth is £91M!

And he can still be a labour supporter. He makes a valid point, why should he having made himself successful now feel alienated by a party he's supported because he's successful? Can you only vote labour if poor?

He made a great point on zero hours contracts. They should not be abolished but equally they should be more tightly regulated.  Sadly neither party is doing that.

Tell my lad they should n't be abolished, he has n't had any miney for 5 weeks because the company he's supposed to work for has n't given him any hours, despite them advertising vacancies in the area

Again what I talked about, regulation not abolition.

Does anybody have any regulation proposals?

[The Red Baron]

I personally think that Labour will win this election ,not because I don't like but I just don't trust the polls anymore and would not belive what day it was if they told me.

It is virtually impossible for Labour to "win" a General Election because of their huge losses in 2015 in Scotland. Until they start making substantial gains there their best hope is to be the largest party in a hung parliament.

You make a fair point about polls, but some polling companies have a better track record than others. It is often worth looking at overall trends. At the moment I'm reckoning about a 50 seat CON majority. That's on the basis that the numbers will tighten a little more in the next week.

[Filo]

I would n't be surprised to see Labour nick it, Corbyn has out performed May on everything, Labour have momentum and the Tories are retreating at an alarming rate. My gut feeling is a hung Parliament though

[Glyn_Wigley]

I would n't be surprised to see Labour nick it, Corbyn has out performed May on everything, Labour have momentum and the Tories are retreating at an alarming rate. My gut feeling is a hung Parliament though

Wouldn't it be fun if we end up virtually exactly as we already are? How would May be able to say that she won't call yet another election to 'end the uncertainty' then?

[not on facebook]

You lot keep on banging on about which party as what policys etc etc ,who can't recall whatever facts or figures .basically you all seem to have some interest and different banks of knowledge on the election that will help you to which box you tick.

But I bet my last dollar  that there are untold out there who don't give two shits about policy's and manifestos as they will vote on a party leaders  image alone.

maybe that's why brexit got voted in or maybe not.

[rtid88]

These are the same people that saw the big red bus with £350 million more to the NHS on it and believed it, these are the same people that believe everything they read in mainstream media and that the BBC tells them.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Most people who don't give two shits don't bother voting.

[not on facebook]

Well the turnout for the brexit vote was a record high if Iam correct ,so I have to assume that X amount who had never voted in previous elections got upto vote.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Do you think the General Election turnout will be as big as the Referendum, or back to the level of the 2015 election?