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[MachoMadness]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

Donny with respect you spout some shite

The interview he's on about was investigated by the BBC Trust and found to be misleading and inaccurate so no, he doesn't.

[ballysbackin]

Just been looking at the Cheif Constables financial report online you can then download a 'Workforce planning' document Current strength in South Yorks is 2450 Officers a reduction of 400 since 2011' they can reduce to 2200 but 2019 to reach their 'Efficiency target'.
Chuffing spiders! When and who said SYP were efficient! It's like the Emporers new Suit in their workforce planning department.

And here is me thinking voting Tory is the best option!

I trust you researched 1974

I served 1974 to 2001 and there were only 2600 total now if you divide that total into a quarter you get 645 per shift for the total county THEN take away how many? that were in offices etc and I bet you would be struggling for 400 for the County, so they altered shifts to 12 hours which would give at most 600 per shift.  When I was walking Bawtry on nights, there were on several occasions no cars at Rossington with drivers and the nearest car was Armthorpe or Edlington OR Harworth which was in Notts.  Nothing has really changed, the numbers are defined by population. BUT that was before Govt cut backs.  I hope this helps

Bally there are 2,450 Police officer in SYP not 2,600

[DonnyOsmond]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

Donny with respect you spout some shite

The interview he's on about was investigated by the BBC Trust and found to be misleading and inaccurate so no, he doesn't.

Merci x

[drfchound]

It was a comment from November. He's said the police saved lives today and he can probably see that 3 men with suicide vests on needed shooting, you couldn't arrest them. The right wing are just using something he said months ago when last night was a bit different situation to the France attacks he was asked about.

The right wing media have been stuff like this for years, trouble is guillible people read this crap and believe everything that is written.

Of course none of the left wing media tell tall stories do they?
Maybe some gullible people do actually believe what is written by them.

[wilts rover]

As I posted on the other thread, I am sure that for accuracy and to remove any doubt whatsoever about Corbyn's position on 'shoot to kill' there will be a big rush of people wishing to post links to this interview he gave today - but hey I have saved you the trouble:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/london-bridge-terror-attack-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-police-cuts-protect-public-cheap-general-a7772621.html

[drfchound]

As I posted on the other thread, I am sure that for accuracy and to remove any doubt whatsoever about Corbyn's position on 'shoot to kill' there will be a big rush of people wishing to post links to this interview he gave today - but hey I have saved you the trouble:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/london-bridge-terror-attack-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-police-cuts-protect-public-cheap-general-a7772621.html

For Corbin to have ever said he wasn't sure about a shoot to kill policy on terrorists says all we need to know about him.

It doesn't matter what he says he will do if he wins the election though because he won't win of course.
Promise the earth Jeremy, promise the earth.

[ballysbackin]

I generalized, by stating BFPO I knew exactly where it was. I will put it another way. All overseas British military personnel bring back, There are many here stating the cut in Police numbers have made security harder so bring back every one and put boots on our street, you cannot defend this country by fighting in  IRAQ, IRAN AFGHANISTAN or   anywhere, you defend from within. It would also increase the economy of this country. The Government are planning forward, they are building just one or is it two Aircraft Carriers that have jets that are fast and have accurate weapons to do a job, the navy will have, is it just four Nuclear subs but they can fire missiles that can go anywhere .

I think if I had said this long drawn out bit you may have understood.

[idler]

On two way family favourites it was always Britich Forces Posted Overseas. 😉

[ballysbackin]

Yes Sundays at 12 noon I seem to remember until 2pm

[idler]

Them were the days.

[hoolahoop]

yep we were nearly always B.A.O.R. British Army On the Rhine .

[DonnyOsmond]

As I posted on the other thread, I am sure that for accuracy and to remove any doubt whatsoever about Corbyn's position on 'shoot to kill' there will be a big rush of people wishing to post links to this interview he gave today - but hey I have saved you the trouble:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/london-bridge-terror-attack-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-police-cuts-protect-public-cheap-general-a7772621.html

For Corbin to have ever said he wasn't sure about a shoot to kill policy on terrorists says all we need to know about him.

It doesn't matter what he says he will do if he wins the election though because he won't win of course.
Promise the earth Jeremy, promise the earth.

If they've got a bomb - shoot to kill.
No bomb - arrest, interrogate and find out potential other people in their terrorist cell.

[Bentley Bullet]

How do the police know if they've got a bomb?
What if they've got knives?

[drfchound]

Yep, and then keep them in prison at our expense until they die of old age.
Great idea.

[wilts rover]

Loose any chance of interrogating them, finding out who their contacts are, and letting more undetected highly dangerous people loose in our communities - brilliant idea!

[Bentley Bullet]

The police should ask them if they are wearing a suicide bomb jacket or carrying a gun or a knife. If they answer 'no' to all three questions, the police should arrest them. Alternatively, if they answer yes to any of the questions, the police should shoot them dead.

[wilts rover]

There you go, you passed the interview - when can you start?

[not on facebook]

One of the most dangerous  extreme Muslim man to British society is housed in. A safe house with 24 hour police protection outside his house  and CCTV cameras mounted on the house  within the U.K.

The said house is paid for by the tax payer ,and this man wants to cause havoc on the streets of the U.K.

Think about that .

[bobjimwilly]

The police should ask them if they are wearing a suicide bomb jacket or carrying a gun or a knife. If they answer 'no' to all three questions, the police should arrest them. Alternatively, if they answer yes to any of the questions, the police should shoot them dead.

Why shoot to kill if they are carring a knife or gun? Our police are training to take suspects down without killing them even if they are carrying such weapons? And like Wilts mentioned, surely it's in our interest to be able to interrogate and potentially discover information about for example other plots

[Bentley Bullet]

There you go, you passed the interview - when can you start?

As soon as it's confirmed that you're not a member of British intelligence service.

[not on facebook]

Shot to kill policy is only way forward

Look at how effective it was with the French armed police man the other day .

This is for A > bang > drop > dead > no court case no human rights no prison no tax burden on France.

[Bentley Bullet]

The police should ask them if they are wearing a suicide bomb jacket or carrying a gun or a knife. If they answer 'no' to all three questions, the police should arrest them. Alternatively, if they answer yes to any of the questions, the police should shoot them dead.

Why shoot to kill if they are carring a knife or gun? Our police are training to take suspects down without killing them even if they are carrying such weapons? And like Wilts mentioned, surely it's in our interest to be able to interrogate and potentially discover information about for example other plots

And what if the policeman thinks the suspect is lying when he says he isn't wearing a suicide bomb jacket!

And as for it being in our interest to be able to interrogate and potentially discover information about, for example, other plots, why not do this before known potential terrorists get to the stage of committing actual terrorism?

[Bentley Bullet]

And as for the Millwall football fan who's thuggish behaviour led to three poor terrorists being stopped in their tracks, there's no wonder the government put travel restrictions on football hooligans.

It's enough to make you ashamed to be English

[not on facebook]

Don't ask just shot .we have to go on the police officers judgement .

Just think of the out cry when a officer has the option to gun a terrorist down while asking the question yes or no to a bomb or vest .

Officer gives terrorist a pass with a no ,then boom nails nuts bolts flying all over the place killing untold and very serious injurys .

Iam not into this arrest them so that they can question them about this and that .they seem to have pulled in 19 was it after the Manchester terror attack .some were released others held longer with reason.

[Jenny]

Shot to kill policy is only way forward

Look at how effective it was with the French armed police man the other day .

This is for A > bang > drop > dead > no court case no human rights no prison no tax burden on France.

I thought the attacker was being treated in hospital? They didn't shoot to kill.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Are the police themselves asking for the guidelines and training regarding when and how to shoot to be changed at all? If not, let them stand. They seem to work pretty well when followed properly. They're the ones who risk their lives in these situations after all, the last thing we need to do is cause confusion just to pander to the public.

[wilts rover]

Shot to kill policy is only way forward

Look at how effective it was with the French armed police man the other day .

This is for A > bang > drop > dead > no court case no human rights no prison no tax burden on France.

I thought the attacker was being treated in hospital? They didn't shoot to kill.

Nope that's just left wing propaganda...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/06/paris-police-shoot-man-who-attacked-officer-outside-notre-dame-cathedral

[i_ateallthepies]

As I posted on the other thread, I am sure that for accuracy and to remove any doubt whatsoever about Corbyn's position on 'shoot to kill' there will be a big rush of people wishing to post links to this interview he gave today - but hey I have saved you the trouble:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/london-bridge-terror-attack-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-police-cuts-protect-public-cheap-general-a7772621.html

For Corbin to have ever said he wasn't sure about a shoot to kill policy on terrorists says all we need to know about him.

It doesn't matter what he says he will do if he wins the election though because he won't win of course.
Promise the earth Jeremy, promise the earth.

If they've got a bomb - shoot to kill.
No bomb - arrest, interrogate and find out potential other people in their terrorist cell.

And then shoot the bas**rds, then we don't have them taking up a prison cell at taxpayers' expense.  Win Win!

[not on facebook]

Shot to kill policy is only way forward

Look at how effective it was with the French armed police man the other day .

This is for A > bang > drop > dead > no court case no human rights no prison no tax burden on France.

I could be wrong wilts ,if so it not be first or last time ,but they did shot him whatever way .
I thought the attacker was being treated in hospital? They didn't shoot to kill.

Nope that's just left wing propaganda...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/06/paris-police-shoot-man-who-attacked-officer-outside-notre-dame-cathedral

[glosterred]

Anything other than a shoot to kill is crap as shoot to wound only happens on movies. An injured assailant can still kill.