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colfromdonny

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Tony Blair
« on June 04, 2017, 09:00:35 am by colfromdonny »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?



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ballysbackin

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« Reply #1 on June 04, 2017, 09:06:12 am by ballysbackin »
Yes he took us into a situation based on lies and the deaths of all our military are on his toes. Let his wife's lawfirm earn money to defend him out of his own pocket

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« Reply #2 on June 04, 2017, 10:22:30 am by Susan Abbott »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?
Why ?? Blair a saint compared to what could unleashed on 08/06/2017
These are the reasons why I feel Corbyn is poison :

1) Jeremy Corbyn has called Hamas, an Islamic terror organisation, a 'friend':
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...mas-and-hezbo/
Hamas is an organisation that has openly declared its will to kill innocent Jews and destroy the nation of Israel. Even if he has apologised for this statement, the fact that he ever said that brings into question how he is going to govern this country and how little he knows about foreign policy.

2) Jeremy Corbyn has attended IRA events and failed to support the Northern Ireland peace process:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...t-for-the-ira/

This involved attending the funerals of dead IRA terrorists, as well as commendations for the 'active soldiers of the IRA'.
His support for an Irish republic could perhaps make him a threat to the future of the United Kingdom in its current state.

3) He accepted payments of £20000 to appear on the Iranian government's prorpoganda news channel.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy...rnalist-2016-6
The channel he appeared in also forces enemies of the Iranian state to record forced conviction videos and broadcasts them. Iran is a state sponsor of Islamic terrorism and is a country where freedom of speech and freedom of religion is severely fact that Jeremy Corbyn cared so little about the ethics of appearing on its official propaganda channel is shocking.

4) He has been endorsed by the Communist party of Britain:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7699761.html
Anyone who has studied the 20th and 21st centuries will tell you that communism has failed time and time again. And no, China hasn't succeeded because of communism- it has succeeded because it has opened itself to free trade, free markets and privatisation- capitalist policies. Look at the state of Venezuela today- that's not something we need in this nation. The fact that far-left extremists throw their support behind this man is disturbing and something to be concerned about.

5) 172 MPs in his own party do not support him being their leader. If he were to become PM, there would be five years of infighting, bickering and failure to get anything done. In an already turbulent time, with the colossal work of Brexit to be done, it would like to cause more instability. If Labour were to get into a coalition with the SNP and fringe parties like the Greens, it would be total chaos.

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« Reply #3 on June 04, 2017, 10:57:01 am by not on facebook »
That last fact about 172 of his own party going against him is the most disturbing from my part .

I can't get my head round that if that many are against him why is he the leader of the Labour Party as surely him been the leader is self harming.

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« Reply #4 on June 04, 2017, 11:21:26 am by RedRover45 »
That last fact about 172 of his own party going against him is the most disturbing from my part .

I can't get my head round that if that many are against him why is he the leader of the Labour Party as surely him been the leader is self harming.

Presumably because Labour picks it leader from the rank and file Labour membership and not from the party's MP's.
The advantage of this is by going more with the electorate but the disadvantage is the MP's working for someone they apparently don't like. Catch 22 I suppose.

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« Reply #5 on June 04, 2017, 11:27:33 am by not on facebook »
Surely the Labour Party can see this tact could well be self harming .i

If this is a close run election which if you take note of what the polls say it is possible and Labour lose by a small vote will they not kick each other stupid in the fallout ,when they could have done something about this .

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« Reply #6 on June 04, 2017, 01:15:37 pm by selby »
Nowt to do with Cameron in Lybia then.
Nowt to do with Cameron and May in Syria then.
Nowt to do with economic migration and the E.U. then.
Money and exploitation of cheap labour,nowt to do with that either.
Nowt to do with Illegal immigration then.

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Re: Tony Blair
« Reply #7 on June 04, 2017, 02:37:12 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Is May going to stop flogging arms to the Saudis now?

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« Reply #8 on June 04, 2017, 02:53:37 pm by not on facebook »
That's a very good point that Glynn ,i wish somebody from the crowd during the recent question time had asked that question  as I can't see how there is a expalination that backs that fact.

Infact corbyn should have brought this issue up some how .


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« Reply #9 on June 04, 2017, 03:22:30 pm by CrippyCooke »
That's a very good point that Glynn ,i wish somebody from the crowd during the recent question time had asked that question  as I can't see how there is a expalination that backs that fact.

Infact corbyn should have brought this issue up some how .

Interestingly, Amber Rudd, the current Home Secretary, defended the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia during the BBC debate the other day. She said that Saudi Arabia has the "right" to purchase arms and us selling them is "good for industry."

On the topic of Jeremy Corbyn, he has attempted to halt arms sales to Saudi Arabia in the House of Commons, however the vote was lost.

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« Reply #10 on June 04, 2017, 03:35:05 pm by not on facebook »
How can anyone Tory Labour ukip liberal or even lord such defend the sale of arms to Saudi Arabia and what really gets on my tits the stupid cow claims that we have the rights to do so .

Ok if we don't sell them the arms they will get them from elsewhere ,but at least we could sleep well at night knowing said arms are not used against our troops or general public.




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« Reply #11 on June 04, 2017, 04:00:52 pm by MachoMadness »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w</a>

Worth watching and sharing on, I feel. Footage of Amber Rudd passing a note on to the moderator to shut down debate about arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

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« Reply #12 on June 04, 2017, 04:44:46 pm by not on facebook »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w</a>

Worth watching and sharing on, I feel. Footage of Amber Rudd passing a note on to the moderator to shut down debate about arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

Trucking Tory slag that is shocking ,who the fcuk does she think she is .

If I would have been that bloke that got shut down I would have walked off the stage while brining to attention why he was shut down ,then gone into nearest pub for a skin full.

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« Reply #13 on June 04, 2017, 06:50:39 pm by German Rover »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w</a>

Worth watching and sharing on, I feel. Footage of Amber Rudd passing a note on to the moderator to shut down debate about arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

Trucking Tory slag that is shocking ,who the fcuk does she think she is .

If I would have been that bloke that got shut down I would have walked off the stage while brining to attention why he was shut down ,then gone into nearest pub for a skin full.

So if a woman has a view that opposes you, she's a slag? You need to take a long hard look in the mirror. This is not the first time you've done this. Apparently Gina Miller is a slag as well for saying the government should follow the rule of law. I dread to think the world my daughter is growing up in where having an opinion opens her up to such abuse.

Also for a point I think Amber Rudd is a terrible foreign minister and we shouldn't sell arms to the Saudis because they have horrific human rights records. The problem is it suits the government because it gives a small amount of control over the price of oil. Never mind that it means dealing with wahabist religious fundamentalists, that's fine so long as the oil keeps flowing!

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« Reply #14 on June 04, 2017, 09:36:48 pm by drfchound »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?
Why ?? Blair a saint compared to what could unleashed on 08/06/2017
These are the reasons why I feel Corbyn is poison :

1) Jeremy Corbyn has called Hamas, an Islamic terror organisation, a 'friend':
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...mas-and-hezbo/
Hamas is an organisation that has openly declared its will to kill innocent Jews and destroy the nation of Israel. Even if he has apologised for this statement, the fact that he ever said that brings into question how he is going to govern this country and how little he knows about foreign policy.

2) Jeremy Corbyn has attended IRA events and failed to support the Northern Ireland peace process:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...IRA-links.html
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...t-for-the-ira/

This involved attending the funerals of dead IRA terrorists, as well as commendations for the 'active soldiers of the IRA'.
His support for an Irish republic could perhaps make him a threat to the future of the United Kingdom in its current state.

3) He accepted payments of £20000 to appear on the Iranian government's prorpoganda news channel.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy...rnalist-2016-6
The channel he appeared in also forces enemies of the Iranian state to record forced conviction videos and broadcasts them. Iran is a state sponsor of Islamic terrorism and is a country where freedom of speech and freedom of religion is severely fact that Jeremy Corbyn cared so little about the ethics of appearing on its official propaganda channel is shocking.

4) He has been endorsed by the Communist party of Britain:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7699761.html
Anyone who has studied the 20th and 21st centuries will tell you that communism has failed time and time again. And no, China hasn't succeeded because of communism- it has succeeded because it has opened itself to free trade, free markets and privatisation- capitalist policies. Look at the state of Venezuela today- that's not something we need in this nation. The fact that far-left extremists throw their support behind this man is disturbing and something to be concerned about.

5) 172 MPs in his own party do not support him being their leader. If he were to become PM, there would be five years of infighting, bickering and failure to get anything done. In an already turbulent time, with the colossal work of Brexit to be done, it would like to cause more instability. If Labour were to get into a coalition with the SNP and fringe parties like the Greens, it would be total chaos.




I can't wait for Glyn or Wilts to post a detailed response to that post.

Go on then you boys, vote Labour, I dare you.

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« Reply #15 on June 04, 2017, 09:48:26 pm by DonnyOsmond »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w</a>

Worth watching and sharing on, I feel. Footage of Amber Rudd passing a note on to the moderator to shut down debate about arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

F*cking hell!

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« Reply #16 on June 04, 2017, 09:48:42 pm by wilts rover »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?
Why ?? Blair a saint compared to what could unleashed on 08/06/2017
These are the reasons why I feel Corbyn is poison :

As opposed to the alternative?

Why has Theresa May put on block on releasing the government's own report on the funding of terrorist groups? I will give you a clue. Because it will show they are funded by Saudi Arabia (and possibly Turkey) whom she has just done a large arms deal with:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/31/sensitive-uk-terror-funding-inquiry-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-terrorist-funding-report-saudia-arabia-focus-not-publish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html

Why did Theresa May as Home Secretary remove control orders and give back passports to suspected Libyian terrorists so they could move freely between that country and the UK?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4546934/PETER-OBORNE-MI6-share-blame-jihadis.html

Why did Theresa May say that the Manchester bomber was a 'lone wolf' and not a high risk - when she had been told by the FBI in January that he was part of cell that were planning an attack
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/05/29/manc-m29.html

Have the policy decisions made by the cabinet she was a part of during and following the attack on Libya in 2011 made this country safer or more dangerous? What did she personally know?
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

Always easier to make a decision when you know the full facts from both sides.

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« Reply #17 on June 04, 2017, 09:55:28 pm by wilts rover »

I can't wait for Glyn or Wilts to post a detailed response to that post.

Go on then you boys, vote Labour, I dare you.

As requested, she above. Although most of my links are to things that have happened this century rather than the last so you might not be interested in them.

I look forward to your reply on them. And Susan if she has the time.

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« Reply #18 on June 04, 2017, 10:09:29 pm by drfchound »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?
Why ?? Blair a saint compared to what could unleashed on 08/06/2017
These are the reasons why I feel Corbyn is poison :

As opposed to the alternative?

Why has Theresa May put on block on releasing the government's own report on the funding of terrorist groups? I will give you a clue. Because it will show they are funded by Saudi Arabia (and possibly Turkey) whom she has just done a large arms deal with:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/31/sensitive-uk-terror-funding-inquiry-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-terrorist-funding-report-saudia-arabia-focus-not-publish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html

Why did Theresa May as Home Secretary remove control orders and give back passports to suspected Libyian terrorists so they could move freely between that country and the UK?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4546934/PETER-OBORNE-MI6-share-blame-jihadis.html

Why did Theresa May say that the Manchester bomber was a 'lone wolf' and not a high risk - when she had been told by the FBI in January that he was part of cell that were planning an attack
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/05/29/manc-m29.html

Have the policy decisions made by the cabinet she was a part of during and following the attack on Libya in 2011 made this country safer or more dangerous? What did she personally know?
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

Always easier to make a decision when you know the full facts from both sides.




.....and they are the full facts from both sides are they?
Interesting that as far left a reporter as John Pilger wrote one of the links.
The left wing Telegraph included another and the World Socialist Website were credited with another.

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« Reply #19 on June 04, 2017, 10:18:53 pm by wilts rover »
Isn't it now time that he was arrested and jailed?
Why ?? Blair a saint compared to what could unleashed on 08/06/2017
These are the reasons why I feel Corbyn is poison :

As opposed to the alternative?

Why has Theresa May put on block on releasing the government's own report on the funding of terrorist groups? I will give you a clue. Because it will show they are funded by Saudi Arabia (and possibly Turkey) whom she has just done a large arms deal with:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/31/sensitive-uk-terror-funding-inquiry-findings-may-never-be-published-saudi-arabia
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/home-office-terrorist-funding-report-saudia-arabia-focus-not-publish-conservatives-government-a7766381.html

Why did Theresa May as Home Secretary remove control orders and give back passports to suspected Libyian terrorists so they could move freely between that country and the UK?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4546934/PETER-OBORNE-MI6-share-blame-jihadis.html

Why did Theresa May say that the Manchester bomber was a 'lone wolf' and not a high risk - when she had been told by the FBI in January that he was part of cell that were planning an attack
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/05/29/manc-m29.html

Have the policy decisions made by the cabinet she was a part of during and following the attack on Libya in 2011 made this country safer or more dangerous? What did she personally know?
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

Always easier to make a decision when you know the full facts from both sides.




.....and they are the full facts from both sides are they?
Interesting that as far left a reporter as John Pilger wrote one of the links.
The left wing Telegraph included another and the World Socialist Website were credited with another.


The links and info given by Susan were totally accurate and had no bias - whereas mine are biased and therefore must be wrong. How nice.

I wonder how biased the former Met Police Commissioner is when he accused Theresa May of being "criminally negligent with the safety of the public"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-terror-attack-peter-kirkham-michael-fallon-armed-police-terrorism-london-attack-latest-a7771976.html

Open your eyes hound. This is what your government has done. This is how little they regard your safety over their misguided objectives. Get some answers from them.

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« Reply #20 on June 04, 2017, 10:23:13 pm by drfchound »
It is blatantly obvious to me that you believe what you read and the links you post but not ones that might not be agreeable to you.

My eyes are open, wide enough to see the chaos that would ensue if by some fluke, Labour were to win on Thursday.

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« Reply #21 on June 04, 2017, 10:26:17 pm by ballysbackin »
I think we should have a multi - party coalition Government, then every will be happy. The only people who really have no interest in this country and it's current problems are the ones who do not vote and that has included me in the past, Even though after the Police life I lead I became a Town Councillor at Thorne and Moorends - bloody hell was that a lesson soon learned so I resigned. Labour now have total control of Thorne and Moorends Town Council.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 10:46:06 pm by bally1950 »

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« Reply #22 on June 04, 2017, 10:40:56 pm by Susan Abbott »
It is blatantly obvious to me that you believe what you read and the links you post but not ones that might not be agreeable to you.

My eyes are open, wide enough to see the chaos that would ensue if by some fluke, Labour were to win on Thursday.
Thursday morning will be a busy day for who ever wins , but if it a Tory win you can bet May will be all over the news with her clamp down on movement  of suspects on the so call watch list , civil liberties groups will up in arms at major detentions and Facebook etc will be put before the courts to say why they won't cooperate with requests to provide details of users under suspicion , mosques will bugged and imams asked to conduct surveillance on its followers. Yes George Orwell will have HIS finally . But if  Corbyn gets his scrawny arse in the chair at no10 it will , terrorists what terrorists ? he will call them to no10 for tea and say that he understands there plight and we should show compassion and see things from their perspective. Either way we're all F***!!!

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« Reply #23 on June 04, 2017, 10:59:30 pm by Geoff Blakesley »
What an unfeminine post Susan ! You are a geezer and an unhinged one at that !!

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« Reply #24 on June 04, 2017, 11:00:42 pm by wilts rover »
Yes, look what he made the Queen do 5 years before he had even been elected...


ballysbackin

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« Reply #25 on June 04, 2017, 11:11:55 pm by ballysbackin »
Ah yes....But Corbyn will say that Mc Guinness was Sinn Fein and not a terrorist so it should be alright to shake hands with a murderer of British troops. I have just thought of something relevant, he was from N Ireland and therefore British - then why was he not arrested for Treason and if found guilty be hanged. Very Serious Point . BUT HM got the last jibe when they last met and he asked if she was alright, I believe her answer that was reported was "Yes, I am still breathing" Now cynical people like me would think she meant that they did not kill her, unlike her cousin Lord Louis Mountbatten of Burma. I have been to the area he was killed near Sligo many times, it really is a beautiful place but tainted with murder.

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« Reply #26 on June 04, 2017, 11:17:01 pm by BobG »
Thank you Wilts. I was going to post the link detailing how Mrs May and Amber Rudd are shoving under the carpet the report, commissioned by a Tory PM no less, into the funding of extremism in this country and elsewhere. Funny, isn't it, given her repeated diatribes about "enough is enough" that now, when she has the evidence in front of her eyes that would enable her to do something positive and popular, she is busy kicking it into the long grass.

You are spot on Wilts. That woman is playing fast and loose with the lives of everyone in this country. If an ex Commissioner of the Met is saying, publicly, that she is a danger to the nation, well, the mind boggles.

(She is, btw, from personal experience, an utter and absolute control freak. That is downright scary. It's tying the operation of government in knots and it means she is physically and mentally incapable of dealing with crises when they come long. She hasn't learned the lesson of a maverick claimed today as a Tory favorite: delegate...

BobG
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ballysbackin

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« Reply #27 on June 04, 2017, 11:42:40 pm by ballysbackin »
I also think that politicians are at this time saying things that will get votes.Some are very unwise indeed, she has said today that it is time that everybody sat down together (I think the meeting at No 10 has since taken place) but she has said that there will be some embarrassment because of what has previously been said and done.

My own view, I think all parties should be in the meetings on security because we do not know who will be in Government on Friday.And so every party should be aware of the issues in hand.

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« Reply #28 on June 04, 2017, 11:52:15 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
What an unfeminine post Susan ! You are a geezer and an unhinged one at that !!

The way he/she uses commas is extremely familiar too.

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« Reply #29 on June 05, 2017, 03:25:41 am by not on facebook »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w</a>

Worth watching and sharing on, I feel. Footage of Amber Rudd passing a note on to the moderator to shut down debate about arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

Trucking Tory slag that is shocking ,who the fcuk does she think she is .

If I would have been that bloke that got shut down I would have walked off the stage while brining to attention why he was shut down ,then gone into nearest pub for a skin full.

So if a woman has a view that opposes you, she's a slag? You need to take a long hard look in the mirror. This is not the first time you've done this. Apparently Gina Miller is a slag as well for saying the government should follow the rule of law. I dread to think the world my daughter is growing up in where having an opinion opens her up to such abuse.

Also for a point I think Amber Rudd is a terrible foreign minister and we shouldn't sell arms to the Saudis because they have horrific human rights records. The problem is it suits the government because it gives a small amount of control over the price of oil. Never mind that it means dealing with wahabist religious fundamentalists, that's fine so long as the oil keeps flowing!

I called her out due to the footage that I saw ,and Iam told that she asked for a discussion  on arms been sold to Saudi Arabia from the U.K. to be shut down via that note .

She can have a opinion ,but she can't have others shut down as in that footage hence why I call her a Tory slag. If it upsets you Iam sorry but that's how i voice my anger.

 

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