Question for the General Election experts

[Bentley Bullet]

So the Tories got more seats than Labour, but the Tories lost, and Labour won. How does the scoring work? Is it a bit like Golf, where those with the lowest score at the end wins?

[RedJ]

Labour didn't win, but they were the winners as they made pretty big inroads when they really weren't expected to. Tories will still manage to form a government, be it as a minority or with the help of the DUP.

[Herman Hessian]

surprisingly enough - in common with every other election - unless you earn enough to simply not have to care, and entirely regardless of which party you may support - we will all lose; some more than others; nett result = same shit, different day for the working man....

[drfchound]

So the Tory's got more seats than Labour, but the Tory's lost, and Labour won. How does the scoring work? Is it a bit like Golf, where those with the lowest score at the end wins?

BB, i think you mistyped mate.
You missed the word "seats" after the words won and lost.

PS: the highest score wins in a golf game called stableford.

[redwine]

Well she did lose a bigger lead than the rovers this season.

[drfchound]

mmmm, still managed to finish in the lead though, unlike the Rovers.

[Glyn_Wigley]

The biggest winners are the DUP, and they've only got 10 seats.

[albie]

The DUPsters to hold the balance of power will not give stability for the long term. They have an interesting past;
So, who are the DUP? | openDemocracy

It seems unlikely to hold until the EU negotiations are finalised in spring 2019, and the strain will show if the deal looks like disappointing some.

What price another election in October, with Mother Theresa standing down for a new leader with a more human persona?

[Filo]

The DUPsters to hold the balance of power will not give stability for the long term. They have an interesting past;
So, who are the DUP? | openDemocracy

It seems unlikely to hold until the EU negotiations are finalised in spring 2019, and the strain will show if the deal looks like disappointing some.

What price another election in October, with Mother Theresa standing down for a new leader with a more human persona?

Is there a Tory with a humane persona?

[idler]

The DUPsters to hold the balance of power will not give stability for the long term. They have an interesting past;
So, who are the DUP? | openDemocracy

It seems unlikely to hold until the EU negotiations are finalised in spring 2019, and the strain will show if the deal looks like disappointing some.

What price another election in October, with Mother Theresa standing down for a new leader with a more human persona?

Is there a Tory with a humane persona?

Tori Amos is the nearest I think.

[Herman Hessian]

Is there a Tory with a humane persona?

Tori Amos is the nearest I think.

would have added Tori Spelling to the mix, but - looking at recent photographs, she seems to be more synthetic than human(e) at the moment...

[idler]

Please don't mention spelling on here.😳

[BobG]

Getting in bed with the DUP could end up in terrible trouble.... What do you suppose is going to happen to the Stormont government now when one party is effectively in alliance with the government that is supposed to be the neutral and honest arbiter getting the two sides of power sharing back together again? Sinn Fein are hardly likely to trust a Tory government running with support from the DUP are they? And that means direct rule will end up being imposed again sooner or later. That's when the troubles will really begin.

As for a humane Tory, has there actually been one since the advent to power of that bloody woman in 1979?

BobG

[wilts rover]

So the Tories got more seats than Labour, but the Tories lost, and Labour won. How does the scoring work? Is it a bit like Golf, where those with the lowest score at the end wins?

Its known as the Scottish effect BB. You know like in Scotland where the SNP got more seats than all the other parties put together lost, and the conservative leader, who didn't even stand for election, won.

This Scottish effect is compounded of course by the fact that only 42% of those who voted supported the 'winning' party. But there you go. They lost and they won. Or was it the other way around? I still wont believe it until Boris Johnson and BST come out and confirm it.

[SydneyRover]

Talk about the tail wagging the dog the DUP will have a big say in controlling the country with 10 seats and less than 1% of the vote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-uk-election/

[RedJ]

Wonder what price you could get on a second election in the next 12 months...

[BobG]

Pretty short! How about a double? New election and new Tory leader inside 12 months?

BobG

[Filo]

Talk about the tail wagging the dog the DUP will have a big say in controlling the country with 10 seats and less than 1% of the vote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-uk-election/

They can support the Tories on English law as well

[RedJ]

Pretty short! How about a double? New election and new Tory leader inside 12 months?

BobG

Now you're talking.

[Colemans Left Hook]

think it's time the liberal democrats had a change of policy for the sake of the country

originally we had

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/22/lib-dems-no-coalition-tim-farron-general-election

Farron said the change of approach was approved by former leader Nick Clegg, who was deputy prime minister in the Tory-led coalition
WHO IS NOW BROWN BREAD AND FARRON ONLY JUST POPPED OUT OF THE TOASTER IN TIME WITH A 777 (THAT'S 666+111) IF HE HAD LOST A COALITION WOULD HAVE BEEN ON ???

but after


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40209503

Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron has narrowly kept his seat in parliament by 777 votes after a recount.
Mr Farron saw his majority in Westmorland & Lonsdale cut by 8,172 ahead of Conservative James Airey.


THE PARTY HAS A CHOICE STAY IRRELEVANT OR MAKE SACRIFICES FOR THE COUNTRY

and by the way I predicted a tory majority of twelve Not 112 as others might have thought
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE IN POLITICS

My ball says an overall majority of 12 seats for Mrs May

and Corbin will be back to eating cold baked beans out of a tin with a spoon
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199550/Take-No-Jeremy-liked-night-eating-cold-beans-cat-called-Harold-Wilson-Corbyn-s-wife-reveals.html

[albie]

The best that Mother Maybot can hope for is to stagger on until the party conference, where she will face the music. Her allies have been purged, by way of sacrificial offering to the enraged.

I am looking forward to the re-emergence of my favourite political animal, the "stalking horse", coming to test the resolve of the party faithful behind the Supreme Leader.

Meanwhile, in NI there is little prospect of a government on the horizon.
The neanderthals from the DUP will also cause ruptions within the Tory network. I see Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson has got the heeby-jeebies about their anti-gay stance.

The EU negotiators must be laughing their nads off in Brussels!

[BobG]

And the folk of Northern Ireland must be fearing the return of all sorts of dreadful possibilities....

Cheers

BobG

[BobG]

Theresa May spent £100 million of public money to reduce her own majority. Still, I reckon she'll do a grand job negotiating Brexit.

BobG

[wilts rover]

£130 million - you can buy a lot of magic money trees for that these days...

[albie]

Interesting position re Thanet.

Craig Mackinlay was re-elected for thr Tories. Trouble is, he has been charged with electoral fraud for his expenses in 2015.

Should Mackinley be found guilty, he will presumably be required to stand down.

[CrippyCooke]

Has anyone worked out how the f**k the Tories won Mansfield yet?

[Colemans Left Hook]

Has anyone worked out how the f**k the Tories won Mansfield yet?

may well have started around this -- ????

http://www.chad.co.uk/news/mansfield-post-office-set-to-move-this-week-1-8423174


Our online poll showed 66 per cent of respondents did not support the relocation of the branch.

Mayor Kate Allsop previously criticised the plan.

She said: "The White Hart Street and Church Street area is a vital part of the town centre with many independent retailers who rely on footfall.

"The current location of the post office helps to maintain footfall in this area and supports those local retailers."


and you couldn't count on the returning officer to get the right result

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/general-election-oscars-moment-wrong-10592545

[GazLaz]

Wonder what price you could get on a second election in the next 12 months...

11/8.

[ballysbackin]

And the pound plunges down thanks to the Election, it has gone from gaining strength prior to Thursday to dropping like a stone, you cannot blame the Tories for that you can blame the others . I see that Corbyn was going to pay all student fees, someone has told me but did he know where the money was coming from, well it certainly convinced the young voters who did not think beyond something for nothing, the country is now in the pooh. Well done y'all

[Filo]

And the pound plunges down thanks to the Election, it has gone from gaining strength prior to Thursday to dropping like a stone, you cannot blame the Tories for that you can blame the others . I see that Corbyn was going to pay all student fees, someone has told me but did he know where the money was coming from, well it certainly convinced the young voters who did not think beyond something for nothing, the country is now in the pooh. Well done y'all

The Labour manifesto was fully costed, the Tory manifesto was devoid of figures, who had made the better plans?