Extra time Germany u21 v England u21 semi final

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2-2 as score stand at moment

On a side not the England u21 manager has had this squad on penalty practice for last 3weeks and the German media outlets all pissed them sens laughing as ze Germans don't ever practice pens.

Could this be the Germans downfall.

[mushRTID]

IT won't get to penalties if England carry on like they did for the last 30 mins

[roversdude]

Holgate is having a mare

[DearneValleyRover]

Holgate is having a mare

I can't believe he's still on the pitch, playing with 10 couldn't be worse. No positional sense, loses his man at set pieces every time.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The Germans believe they will score the penalties!

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We have ze ways of ze not looking ike we vil Szcore

[DearneValleyRover]

Pens again however given the woeful finishing of ze Germans and the luck we've had through the game we might just win them or lose 3-0

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England hung on like a punched drunk boxer


It's the mad house of pens

Will the ABBA system be used for taking the pens

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In Pickford we trust

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Pickford has broke the German sever

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Fcuking english idiot

[drfchound]

2-2 after 3 pens each

[Dr Fundlekrotch]

3-3 after 4

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The German keeper has his homework on a piece of paper tucked down in his socks to read where are pens are going

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England are OUT OUT OUT ffs

[drfchound]

Usual outcome then/

[George Carter]

Always the same result eh????

[Andy Smith]

 Same as 1996
Same old K..tz

[glosterred]

England beaten on penalties by Germany, not seen that before have we


COYR

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I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

[Susan Abbott]

England beaten on penalties by Germany, not seen that before have we


COYR

I wonder what odds you could have got on that . 1/100 on

[roversdude]

To be fair Germans deserved to go through

[RedJ]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

[DearneValleyRover]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

Never happen in England as the people responsible for doing the overhaul would be the ones in need of it

[not on facebook]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

I agree with the above redj ,but that fact that the radio presenters had the inquiry questions and all the things good about German bunders league football stacked up against the premeirships bad aspects .

They even had mins played by German youth team players played throu the German league season against English youth players mins played in The Whole season in the prem .

The Germans blew the English out of the water and again.

[GazLaz]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

Have they been more successful though? Their record was exceptional before as well. They just had a bad year.

[George Carter]

I think its all down to the talent at your disposal and what you do with it because you can coach so much but if the players aren't getting a chance then whats the point????

The problem nowadays is that many bang average foreigners who would get in their countrys national team and have scored a few goals in the French league or the Dutch league or whatever gets a contract over here at some mid table club and that pushes a promising youngster down the pecking order...

Reason they go to a mid table club is because the Liverpools, Man Us, Man Citys, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc have enough clout to sign the best foreign players...

But after a season or maybe two the said foreigner at a club like Watford cant get to grips with the better quality of the English league football and the youngster who could have broken through has been loaned out or sold to a Championship club.

If we had a cap ion the amount of foreign players,, clubs would have to promote their own or more british players and they'd get more time in the league  and become better players.

But as someone said above,, the biggest problem with change is youd have to change those in power at the top of the Fa and they wouldn't want to go so you'd only ever have them coming up with changes which mean they stay in power as a result.

[RedJ]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

Have they been more successful though? Their record was exceptional before as well. They just had a bad year.

They've certainly produced better players than we have.

[GazLaz]

I was watching this game on the wireless via talksport commentary .

Straight after England missed the last pen and crashed out the presenters had a line of inquest facts already lined up on why England are shit and how good the German u21s were much better due to a new system that the German football powers installed 12 yeas back.

They came out with numerous reasons and stats as to why England are shite etc etc.

Want pissed me off is why was they not saying  all above before tonight's game as it seems that if England had won the pen shoot out there be no problem .its as if that one single pen missed then reflected how lacking England were on the ball as the Germans were far more confident .

They're not wrong though. After Euro 2000 where the Germans may as well have gone on holiday the German FA completely overhauled the system and we've started to see the results.

Have they been more successful though? Their record was exceptional before as well. They just had a bad year.

They've certainly produced better players than we have.

As they did before.

[Herbert Anchovy]

I think its all down to the talent at your disposal and what you do with it because you can coach so much but if the players aren't getting a chance then whats the point????

The problem nowadays is that many bang average foreigners who would get in their countrys national team and have scored a few goals in the French league or the Dutch league or whatever gets a contract over here at some mid table club and that pushes a promising youngster down the pecking order...

Reason they go to a mid table club is because the Liverpools, Man Us, Man Citys, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc have enough clout to sign the best foreign players...

But after a season or maybe two the said foreigner at a club like Watford cant get to grips with the better quality of the English league football and the youngster who could have broken through has been loaned out or sold to a Championship club.

If we had a cap ion the amount of foreign players,, clubs would have to promote their own or more british players and they'd get more time in the league  and become better players.

But as someone said above,, the biggest problem with change is youd have to change those in power at the top of the Fa and they wouldn't want to go so you'd only ever have them coming up with changes which mean they stay in power as a result.

Agree with all of that.

Managers in the PL won't risk blooding young players because as soon as a team loses a couple of games on the trot there's an almighty row to sack them. Consequently the pool of quality English players dries up so the clubs look abroad. It's a vicious circle and we're all to blame; the clubs, the media, the fans and the administrators.