Our legal system......

[George Carter]

Not content with protecting the two bas**rds who battered them boys in edlo a few years ago and giving them annonymity,, our marvelous legal systm wont name this child killer scumbag.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40478679

Its all well and good to play the mad card and get diminised responsibility.... a killer is a killer and everyone knows the difference between right and wrong....

So why this fcuker hasnt been named beggars belief.  The law should protect the victim not the killer.

And if the sick fcuker gets life for murdering this little girl it should mean life annd not time off for good behaviour or a recomendation of so many years..

Just look that Sean Mercer who should be behind bars until his dying day!!!!!

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Funny you should link that news story up as after reading that same report early on today and the part where the mother of the murdered young daughter described

How she turned up by her daughters side after running screaming her head off and as soon she saw her daughters knife wound injurys she knew that she had lost her straight away as the mother hugged her daughter.

That part really got to me and the only compensation that I could accept if that was my child would be the death penalty .infact I agree that death penalty should be ordered by the courts in this case if they had the power .

Which brings me onto > bring back the death penalty and non of this mental health issues b*llocks to  which untold hide behind while we're
at it.

As some religions belive ' an eye for an eye ' outlook

[George Carter]

Although I think the death penalty would prevent some murders,, thered be too much outrage with the lefty loons if it were reintroduced. There's always the case of miscarriages of justics so I dont think its the right way to go especially in cases where the evidence is circumstancial

But life should mean life and not so many years off your sentence for  this good behaviour once your inside.

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Although I think the death penalty would prevent some murders,, thered be too much outrage with the lefty loons if it were reintroduced. There's always the case of miscarriages of justics so I dont think its the right way to go especially in cases where the evidence is circumstancial

But life should mean life and not so many years off your sentence for  this good behaviour once your inside.

I take on board that miscarriages of justice are possible and new guide lines will have to be set in place  as you pointed out circumstantial evidence is massive issue.

What please show me any circumstantial evidence that is out there on the two lee rigby killers.

It was that obvious that they killed lee rigby even a blind man caulked see it and no left wing nut jib can say different and only offer up human rights.

There should be a process in cases like this where the two lee rigby killers are hand cuffed asap ,taken away and executed within 24hrs with no court case etc etc .

The evidence is out there via social media phone footage and no fcuker can offer any defence what so ever .what happens is a lawyer firm gets paid shit loads to defend the indefensible at the tax payers exspese.

Hang the Kitsons I say

[George Carter]

The Worst thing about this case is the scummy girl who did the murder has twice denied the murder charge but now has accepted the lesser charge of manslauter by diminished responsibility.

Fcuk me shes claiming to be mad and its been said that she had murder in mind,,, but she isnt mad enough to know that admitting a lesser charge would likely get her lesser time in the nick,

She needs sending down for life and anything less is an insult to the parents and family of the victim.,

[George Carter]

Although I think the death penalty would prevent some murders,, thered be too much outrage with the lefty loons if it were reintroduced. There's always the case of miscarriages of justics so I dont think its the right way to go especially in cases where the evidence is circumstancial

But life should mean life and not so many years off your sentence for  this good behaviour once your inside.

I take on board that miscarriages of justice are possible and new guide lines will have to be set in place  as you pointed out circumstantial evidence is massive issue.

What please show me any circumstantial evidence that is out there on the two lee rigby killers.

It was that obvious that they killed lee rigby even a blind man caulked see it and no left wing nut jib can say different and only offer up human rights.

There should be a process in cases like this where the two lee rigby killers are hand cuffed asap ,taken away and executed within 24hrs with no court case etc etc .

The evidence is out there via social media phone footage and no fcuker can offer any defence what so ever .what happens is a lawyer firm gets paid shit loads to defend the indefensible at the tax payers exspese.

Hang the Kitsons I say

Agree on the Lee rigby killers.  If they'd gone about wielding knives at others after killing him then theyd have been shot dead by the Met's armed response unit..

[Geoff Blakesley]

George and NOF in dialogue - priceless ! should be on all EDL literature !

[George Carter]

I dont support the EDL or Bnp..... I do however support UKIP and Tommy robinson!

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George and NOF in dialogue - priceless ! should be on all EDL literature !

I say exact same about the two lee rigby killers if they was pink blue or white ,even if it was two eight eyed purple monsters I say the same > hang them > streaky style ( MCvicar the movie )

[Geoff Blakesley]

Ah - that explains it! They are both losers !!

[roversdude]

Agree with sentiments re Lee Rigbys killers

Programme last night about the child sex rings and out do goofing society afraid to prosecute as it may be seen as offensive to the community.
Thankfully things were brought into balance by a Muslim prosecutor

[Glyn_Wigley]

I take on board that miscarriages of justice are possible and new guide lines will have to be set in place  as you pointed out circumstantial evidence is massive issue.

What please show me any circumstantial evidence that is out there on the two lee rigby killers.

It was that obvious that they killed lee rigby even a blind man caulked see it and no left wing nut jib can say different and only offer up human rights.

It's not about human rights, it's about how the justice system works in this country, in that the punishment is based on the severity of the crime committed and not on the strength of evidence presented. Evidence is only used to prove guilt, not determine the punishment.

So, someone can only be punished for murder if they are found guilty of murder. If you want capital punishment for murder but only in cases where the level of evidence is incontrovertible then you are setting the standard of evidence for all murder trials as 'incontrovertible' instead of 'beyond reasonable doubt'. You cannot have verdicts of 'slightly guilty' or 'not guilty enough to hang', it is either 'guilty' or 'not guilty' there are no other options.

Now you may think that an 'incontrovertible' standard of evidence is a good thing to have...but how many of the people convicted for murder and in prison right now would have been convicted under an 'incontrovertible' standard of evidence - and how many possible murderers would be acquitted and let back out onto the streets in future because the evidence wasn't strong enough to be 'incontrovertible'?

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Far too much for me to chew on there Glynn and I have no idea how to answer your valid questions .

All I can add is ' where there is a will there is a way '

It needs someone who knows the law inside out and back to front to answer the above .

[roversdude]

Would be less overcrowding in jails
Seriously though some of the crimes are treason - I think the death sentence still stands for that

[Glyn_Wigley]

Would be less overcrowding in jails
Seriously though some of the crimes are treason - I think the death sentence still stands for that

There is no death sentence for any offence whatsoever.

[NickDRFC]

Would be less overcrowding in jails
Seriously though some of the crimes are treason - I think the death sentence still stands for that

There is no death sentence for any offence whatsoever.

I think treason was the last to go, but that must have been some 20 + years ago.

[roversdude]

Apologies changed in 1998